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Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by Calitoscassius(m): 8:52am On Oct 20
Cutehector:
He'd rather commit suicide than going back to nigeria..



It is absoluty very sad and hopeless of him.
Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by sulaak(m): 8:53am On Oct 20
Neo-black Problem: Must Blacks Be Ruled by Whites in Order to Prosper?

Joseph Agbakoba


Nigeria just celebrated her 64th year of independence and it was a gloomy day for most Nigerians. This was captured very well in a scathing editorial by the Punch newspaper. The paper recounted the consequences of state capture by a coarse, brutal, rapacious and counter-developmental political elite – dramatic increase in poverty levels, illiteracy, banditry, insecurity, collapse of infrastructure and institutions, corruption, and virtually every conceivable public ailment.

In the estimation of many, the country is now a failed or virtually failed state. The arrogantly named “giant of Africa” has now seen that in the things that matter, which make a people great, she has always been a pony.

People are suffering in unprecedented numbers of malnutrition, starvation, malaria, political violence, banditry and joblessness in this underachieving pony of a state.


In response, many are calling for or actively showing their preference for re-colonization or a return to white rule.

This has to be understood well.

One, there are those who can afford to emigrate fairly legally, at least. So, they make their way to regions of white rule in the Western strong holds of Europe or North America, etc. This is the highly celebrated “japa” – escape from the bondage of fellow Black rule.

Two, illegal emigration to regions of white rule in spite of its many hazards, by poorer but desperate young Africans.

Third, the stay-at-homes, especially the youth, who want a return of white rule to take over their failed governments.

The fate of Nigeria is shared more or less by other sub-Saharan African countries. Recently, I listened to a viral clip by an apparently poor and frustrated South African calling for a return to white rule in her country for broadly similar reasons.

Then also I read about the shocking case of two black women who went scavenging for food in a white man’s farm in the North of South Africa. He killed them and fed their remains to his pigs to conceal his crime. This is cruel and racist and he and his accomplices must pay for their crime. But we must recognize that these poor black women were driven to extreme poverty and desperation by the failure and insensitivity of Black rule in a country that only 30 years ago won a hard fought victory against white minority rule.

These unfortunate women are not different from those who die on the perilous journey through the Sahara desert and the Mediterranean to Europe, or are sold into slavery by Arabs in North Africa.

This is the neo-black problem – which Franz Fanon did not see fully in his conceptualization of the black problem, but which like the black problem cannot be escaped by all black Africans, and for which recolonisation of any type is not a proper or lasting solution.

In short, the neo-black dilemma may be framed as follows: is it better to live under white rule without political dignity but with basic life-sustaining standards for many;

or to live under black rule with illusory political dignity and without basic life- sustaining standards for the majority?

We must square up to this problem in order to solve it. This begins with intellectual honesty and humility, utmost respect and responsibility for truth, factuality and functionality.

Unfortunately, one of the flip sides of the protest politics of African liberation struggle is the cultivation of a touchy egotistical response to every thing real or imaginary no matter how small that robs off negatively on our struggle-inflated and hypersensitized egos (a direct consequence of our struggle with a lingering alienation-negativity complex due to colonial racism).

However, as Thomas Sowell writes of the somewhat similar problem of the black redneck culture in the USA, we have to pull away from this irrational path of counter-development and focus on the things that matter.

Again, as Sowell points out, except for a few outliers, politics does not directly make a community rich. And, political ‘liberators’ are often an obstacle to the development of their people due to their interest in keeping self rewarding but developmentally negative or insignificant causes in the front burners of the public sphere and politics.

The path forward for Africa lies in cultivating higher and adequate levels of personal and communal agential integrity as well as full personal responsibility and productivity. Not to mention creativity (including epistemic creativity), productive justice (such as merit and freedom), harmony and reconciliation at local and international levels, and a proper domestication of capitalism and other related values and institutions.
Africa must stop wasting her time on dreams of socialism because it is a system of wealth distribution primarily. Whereas, capitalism is a system of wealth creation primarily, and wealth has to be produced before it can be distributed.

As George Ayittey rightly pointed out, precolonial Africa was basically proto-capitalist, I would say, with a penumbra of proto-welfarism. Africa cannot live in an isolated, exotic niche of her own, outside global capitalism.

This is the transcolonial view that envisages a new self-created Africa that makes use of utilizable elements of, but also creatively goes beyond the limitations of the pre-colonial order, the colonial deposit and available global resources, to achieve a functional hybrid culture, especially heterosis (a vigorous hybrid that surpasses its parent stocks).

Further, Africa must shun victimology because colonization is virtually as old as human history and equally universal. And, as morally condemnable as it is, it is one of the means by which knowledge spreads from one society to another (some of the others being commerce, tourism of different types, and evangelization).

Without overly focusing on victimhood, many Asian former colonies have found ways of integrating helpful Western knowledge and values to create thriving modern states, in spite of local and international obstacles.


Africa must also give up her embarrassing disposition to pan handling and outsourcing solutions.

The task of driving this development lies with African intellectuals and intelligentsia because the saying “the intellect precedes all in humans” can be said to apply aptly to development issues.

Can this class and generation of Africans live up to their historical responsibility? Time will tell but it can be said that their job has been made easier with the coming of new forms of communication such as social media by which worthwhile initiatives can be rapidly incubated and brought to life across borders.

Failure will not bode well for us as it could lead to extinction. As the philosopher, Immanuel Kant, opines, humans of all the creatures in the world, are endowed by nature (God, some like me would say) with reason (including rational will and creativity) as their unique equipment for the mastery of the world and survival. We must exercise our humanity in this regard or be willing to perish.

Agbakoba is professor of philosophy at the University of Nigeria

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/10/12/neo-black-problem-must-blacks-be-ruled-by-whites-in-order-to-prosper/


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Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by omoharry(f): 8:53am On Oct 20
helinues:
No place like home
Really ! Pls tell that to those that are queuing under the hot sun for a piece of bread
Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by Calitoscassius(m): 8:54am On Oct 20
cl0r0x:
Meanwhile they continue importing terrorists from Pakistan, Iran, Syria, and Yemen. Goodluck to the UK. Future shithole.
You sound very bitter, did UK deny you visa?

Naigeerian commits fraud and scams crimes in the UK

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Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by Calitoscassius(m): 8:57am On Oct 20
eniteden:
Hypocrite those people calling for Jihad we see on TV's they won't deport them. I didn't even such country in the list. Nonsense
Naigeerians are criminals in the UK, maybe the UK will start depoting the jihadists also. Besides, naigeeria has jihadist also, remember? Boko haram?
Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by Santalpharay: 8:58am On Oct 20
richard870:
A country has every right to protect her citizens.

On this statement, what is the case with NIGERIA. Nobody send you. Nigerians are sacrificed on the alters of religion, tribalism and nepotism. What a shame.

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Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by omoharry(f): 8:58am On Oct 20
DigitB:
And they left the unteachables, those terrorists from The Middle East who stab people every day.
exactly my thoughts. Those once shouting that they want sharia in the UK and busy disturbing the peace in the British society are left out.

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Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by Calitoscassius(m): 9:00am On Oct 20
omoharry:
exactly my thoughts. Those once shouting that they want sharia in the UK and busy disturbing the peace in the British society are left out.
No, they are not left out, they d be deported also, besides, there are terrorists in Naigeeria too, naigeerians commits fraud and scams crimes also in the UK.


No criminal is better than the other.

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Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by Calitoscassius(m): 9:04am On Oct 20
DigitB:
And they left the unteachables, those terrorists from The Middle East who stab people every day.
They are deporting naigeerian criminals first. Those you mentioned will be next.

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Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by Blackdisciple(m): 9:06am On Oct 20
Probably they were practicing cultism, chasing each other with weapons in foreign lands ...

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Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by watchindelta(m): 9:20am On Oct 20
Very bad meh how to go now
Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by AmalaAtiEwedu: 9:31am On Oct 20
Ernesthugo:
na why you useless and tasteless as your moniker grin grin grin grin grin
don't get it twisted grin
Amala is an energy giving food and when combined with ewedu is very very nutritious grin

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Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by zombieHUNTER: 9:47am On Oct 20
AmalaAtiEwedu:
Only very lazy Nigerians are complaining cool

Exactly, that's why South East don't have time for any hunger protests
Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by Procashtips(m): 10:35am On Oct 20
How many people dey Lithuania wey dem still dey japa?
Lithuania isn't that bad economically, so wetin make dem Japa to now being deported?
Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by Emzedz: 10:40am On Oct 20
No place like home.. come n see wat d useless mandate has turned nigeria into.
Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by IyfeNamikaze(m): 10:43am On Oct 20
CrownedPhoenix:
I am curious though. What happens to their assets? Monies in bank accounts?

Are these monies/properties converted to State assets by the UK govt or can the deportees find ways to repatriate the money?
Asylum seekers don't have money in banks nor do they own properties.
What they're given are stipends for daily upkeep.

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Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by Regex: 10:58am On Oct 20
Procashtips:
How many people dey Lithuania wey dem still dey japa?
Lithuania isn't that bad economically, so wetin make dem Japa to now being deported?

It isn't bad, but it isn't great either.
Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by CharityAiders: 11:05am On Oct 20
prinzedy:



Shee to travel through illegal means na beans?

You can try it too.
Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by grandstar(m): 11:18am On Oct 20
Sleekfingers:


That money and properties are gone. Were they legally staying in the UK?

It's really brutal. I would advise any illegal immigrant to establish something back home to prevent being caught off guard.

For instance, open a dorm account in Nigeria, and be saving £100 a month. The larger the better.
Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by AmalaAtiEwedu: 11:24am On Oct 20
zombieHUNTER:


Exactly, that's why South East don't have time for any hunger protests
they wail8)
Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by IbeOkehie: 11:27am On Oct 20
sulaak:


Prof. Agbakoba wrote -

In short, the neo-black dilemma may be framed as follows: is it better to live under white rule without political dignity but with basic life-sustaining standards for many;

or to live under black rule with illusory political dignity and without basic life- sustaining standards for the majority?

Africa must stop wasting her time on dreams of socialism because it is a system of wealth distribution primarily. Whereas, capitalism is a system of wealth creation primarily, and wealth has to be produced before it can be distributed.

cc Gerrard, we had this discussion a bit ago

IbeOkehie:


Zimbabwe.

Let me tell you what is wrong with MOST or in fact ALL liberation movements in all the colonial countries. Because they mostly were colonized by countries with CAPITALIST sytems, those liberation movements somehow associated that economic ideology with the evils of colonialism, racism, imperialism and so on. They therefore spurned everything that had to do with capitalism and adopted the OPPOSITE, which is socialism and communism. I have a good friend from Vietnam, I'm supposed to see him in the next month or so. He's the one that made me understand how this lays bare one inescapable fact that permeates those movements, to wit - the leaderships of those movements were fighting to replace the White European ruling class so that they, the new indigenous saviors, could now do exactly what the colonialists were doing - and what they did is worse BECAUSE they used socialist themed systems. So the people ended up oppressed and POORER than they were before.

History happened. America and Europe have a racist past...so does EVERY other country have a racist, tribalist, religiously oppressive past and even present. The Chinese are doing much worse to the Uighurs TODAY, like what the Arabs did to their Black African slaves, but somehow that doesn't matter. It's funny every time people want to paint the USA as racist, they go to....THE PAST, as if the country hasn't IMPROVED on that matter. Over 400 years of progress and it's still a touchstone for those who are simply JEALOUS of the Anglo-Saxons and their proven ability at development.

Nna, this whole thing just makes me laugh. Chinese saviors. grin grin grin No problem, we shall see.

Thanks 😊 to sulaak for posting this. It's a good summary and solution to a simmering quandary. Very relevant and well written.

Good Luck to Nigerians

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Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by Gandrova: 11:28am On Oct 20
nolzautoz:
After they’ve been fully used, the UK has finally discarded them. This is a message for those planning to leave: Nigeria can’t deport you anywhere except to heaven or hell.
lolz! Terrible reply
Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by Maysdevices(f): 11:30am On Oct 20
Ernesthugo:
how do you know his of igbo origin you dumbfnck
Lol. Anyone that insults or criticizes them is Igbo

When an Igbo man is insulted, he doesn’t know or care who it is, he just responds. When a Yoruba man is insulted even in China, he must first declare it is an Igbo man that made the comment before responding

I’m from neither tribe but the obsession carried by Yorubas for Igbos is scary

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Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by Procashtips(m): 11:41am On Oct 20
Regex:


It isn't bad, but it isn't great either.

Compared to the UK that they'd now become illegal in the UK?

Seems it's more of Education than greener pastures.

Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by OALandAgents: 11:47am On Oct 20
Chai! So Thieffnubu shege even reach Nigerians in UK lipsrsealed

Everyone must collect this TPain renewed, improved, triple action, shege banza !!

Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by MT: 11:54am On Oct 20
Sukakma:
And some people are criticizing Donald Trump for promising to do the same if elected

Trump was just blabbing.

Where will the US get the resources and money to fund such large deportation?
Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by BigDawsNet: 11:55am On Oct 20
omoluka:

100/100
Work visa is the best type of visa

PR is better than work visa…

With PR, you get ur citizenship in 3 years

If you get in with greencard [US lottery], 3 years u qualified for citizenship

If you con join the Us military with ur greencard… just one year in the military… u get ur citizenship
Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by Atlantis585: 11:58am On Oct 20
I understand they included Tinubu in the deportation flight.

To God be the glory!

He has made Nigeria great again like UK & US so let him stay here and enjoy the hardship he has created.
Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by naturefellow(m): 12:09pm On Oct 20
IFECHIGCON:
Maybe they found out many plans of skull mining in their country who knows undecided undecided undecided
you can be mad without advertising it on social media, you know?
Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by tubolancer(m): 12:10pm On Oct 20
IFECHIGCON:
Maybe they found out many plans of skull mining in their country who knows undecided undecided undecided
You and those who click like are brain-dead.
Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by IFECHIGCON(m): 12:10pm On Oct 20
naturefellow:
you can be mad without advertising it on social media, you know?

Only same people can be allowed to qoute me not insane like you
Re: UK Deports Record Number Of Nigerians, Ghanaians In Single Flight Amid Crackdown by Bar1941(m): 12:11pm On Oct 20
CrownedPhoenix:
I am curious though. What happens to their assets? Monies in bank accounts?

Are these monies/properties converted to State assets by the UK govt or can the deportees find ways to repatriate the money?

Many a time, people like that are either undocumented or earlier been labelled for deportation by the government. Based on that, they hardly safe in the banks cos that will be a link to arrest them. They mostly do a cash job or use other people’s documents to work and the owner of the document will receive the wages on their behalf which will later be given to them based on whatever arrangement they had beforehand.

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