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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:18am On Oct 22
BlueRayDick:


I don't even know whether what Wike did is legal or not, I just find it funny that government can just grab an individual or corporate entity's land, reallocate it to itself and still boast about it.

It just sounds weird to me Sha.

It is weird and wrong, and every single day in Nigeria, we set a precedence that people will use as a standard in the future.

The country is already finished. So, no need to wail sef.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ballzproblem2: 10:21am On Oct 22
GloriousGbola:


I doubt it is hard cash that is there,but rather something shocking and disturbing that the idf want everyone to see with their Koro eye
is cash and solid gold bars idk know why this is hard to believe.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 10:22am On Oct 22
BlueRayDick:


I don't even know whether what Wike did is legal or not, I just find it funny that government can just grab an individual or corporate entity's land, reallocate it to itself and still boast about it.

It just sounds weird to me Sha.
In Nigeria, all land belongs to the government, bought or not, what landowners have is CofO, which can always be revoked.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 10:22am On Oct 22
Ibime:


See difference. Iamoyindamola for hold the coconut dey pet am, then call his daddy immediately after to transfer school
Them dan fortify obaino na why him surname na jazz 😁
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 10:26am On Oct 22
BlueRayDick:


What did I just read? grin
The part wey burst head na when e talk say e invite the CEO of Julius Berger to dinner, said nothing about the land and next day served him papers of revocation grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:28am On Oct 22
BlueRayDick:


I don't even know whether what Wike did is legal or not, I just find it funny that government can just grab an individual or corporate entity's land, reallocate it to itself and still boast about it.

It just sounds weird to me Sha.

It is actually the law in Nigeria. It is why a lot of multinationals lease. The government can take over any land. Your c of o is like a software license. You do not actually own the land and the government can revoke your license anytime for any reason

The catch here is it is state governors that can do this and Abuja is not a state and wike is not a governor.

Then again El rufai already established precedent when he ran Abuja
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:28am On Oct 22
Theflint1:
In Nigeria, all land belongs to the government, bought or not, what landowners have is CofO, which can always be revoked.

If this is true,then why did the original magodo land owners defeat Lagos state government in court?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:30am On Oct 22
Theflint1:
The part wey burst head na when e talk say e invite the CEO of Julius Berger to dinner, said nothing about the land and next day served him papers of revocation grin

The guy thinks it's a flex doing all that shiiit, but doesn't know he's selling bad PR about Nigeria to the Whiteman

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:32am On Oct 22
Theflint1:
The part wey burst head na when e talk say e invite the CEO of Julius Berger to dinner, said nothing about the land and next day served him papers of revocation grin

Man is trying for form hard man. He wants to be a legend like Obj who invited —----to eat amala and then had him ousted.

I have forgotten the guys name.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 10:33am On Oct 22
BlueRayDick:


If this is true,then why did the original magodo land owners defeat Lagos state government in court?
Who are the original owners of magodo?
By law all land belongs to the government but logically the government can't take all of them because they can't even develop 5% of the total land mass
Winning doesn't mean the government can't take it back if they want
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by abduleez1(m): 10:34am On Oct 22
GloriousGbola:


That post is already ignorant

OVH is nnpc retail, not NNPCL. Nnpc retail/ovh sells refined petroleum products. They have nothing to do with crude.

That posters inability to get the most basic details right means whatever else he writes cannot be taken seriously.

Also I think we have all read that dangote now has oil blocks and is likely to supply his refinery directly.


Lol....

Yeah, Dangote has a few blocks and is even planning on exploration of more new fields to secure his refinery.

Move wey him for don mount since especially with open secret for years that NNPC or FG uses crude oil swaps for hard cash Forex.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:35am On Oct 22
GloriousGbola:


It is actually the law in Nigeria. It is why a lot of multinationals lease. The government can take over any land. Your c of o is like a software license. You do not actually own the land and the government can revoke your license anytime for any reason

The catch here is it is state governors that can do this and Abuja is not a state and wike is not a governor.

Then again El rufai already established precedent when he ran Abuja

This is not always true.

I know of several cases that has been won against government as it relates to land allocation.

https://lawbreed.blog/supreme-court-rejects-lagos-state-governments-application-in-magodo-land-dispute/

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:39am On Oct 22
iamoyindamola:

Who are the original owners of magodo?
By law all land belongs to the government but logically the government can't take all of them because they can't even develop 5% of the total land mass
Winning doesn't mean the government can't take it back if they want

The Shangisha Landlords Association are the original owners of the landlord and they won the case after 38 years of dispute.

You are wrong that the government can take it back of they want. A Supreme Court judgement is final; if government decides to cat against it then their act is illegal.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 10:44am On Oct 22
BlueRayDick:


The Shangisha Landlords Association are the original owners of the landlord and they won the case after 38 years of dispute.

You are wrong that the government can take it back of they want. A Supreme Court judgement is final; if government decides to cat against it then their act is illegal.
Tomorrow a new government can bring blueprint of Lagos and claim the whole of magodo is supposed to be canal
Can the government still take it or not

Oh it can't happen abi?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 10:50am On Oct 22
GloriousGbola:


Man is trying for form hard man. He wants to be a legend like Obj who invited —----to eat amala and then had him ousted.

I have forgotten the guys name.
Yea, it's actually badarse, but it's only badarse when you're not the one climbing podiums to signal how badarse you can be grin

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 10:54am On Oct 22
GloriousGbola:


That post is already ignorant

OVH is nnpc retail, not NNPCL. Nnpc retail/ovh sells refined petroleum products. They have nothing to do with crude.

That posters inability to get the most basic details right means whatever else he writes cannot be taken seriously.

Also I think we have all read that dangote now has oil blocks and is likely to supply his refinery directly.

Okay...can Dangote's oil blocs meet his demand of 650,000 bpd?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:56am On Oct 22
iamoyindamola:

Tomorrow a new government can bring blueprint of Lagos and claim the whole of magodo is supposed to be canal
Can the government still take it or not

Oh it can't happen abi?

No it can't happen.

The defendant in the Case is Lagos state government and not Sanwoolu, Ambode, Tinubu, Jakande or any other past governor of Lagos state. And the judgement is binding on any future governor of Lagos state.

Let me give u an example: Environmental sanitation in Lagos state was abolished in Lagos state under Ambode simply because a citizen who was arrested during the environmental sanitation restriction of movement sued the state government. The court ruled that restricting people's movement was breach of fundamental human right which is enshrined into the constitution. The court also ruled that there's actually no law that established environmental sanitation in Lagos state and if such law exists, such law cannot restrict people's movement cos such law will be at variance with the constitution.

So Ambode government cancelled the whole environmental sanitation every last Saturday of the month. Now even after Ambode had left, Sanwoolu has not dared to bring it back because if he does, he will be going against the rule of law. The judgment is binding on him and all future governors of the state.

It's not as if they can't do it, but it will be an illegality if they do.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 10:56am On Oct 22
BlueRayDick:


I don't even know whether what Wike did is legal or not, I just find it funny that government can just grab an individual or corporate entity's land, reallocate it to itself and still boast about it.

It just sounds weird to me Sha.
Normally the individual is supposed to sue. But we all know it would be fruitless until this government passes. A court will reverse it in the next government. This is the kind of rascality we face in this country.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by abduleez1(m): 10:59am On Oct 22
iamoyindamola:

Who go give you premium pay for naija
I just they laugh when some guys here say how do people survive with some money this and that
The truth is survival instinct will kick once in the shoes
You will cut cost to the minimum
The only thing is do not get sick

Na true sha.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:00am On Oct 22
Theflint1:
Okay...can Dangote's oil blocs meet his demand of 650,000 bpd?


The maximum his oil bloc will produce for now is 20,000 bpd
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 11:01am On Oct 22
BlueRayDick:


The Shangisha Landlords Association are the original owners of the landlord and they won the case after 38 years of dispute.

You are wrong that the government can take it back of they want. A Supreme Court judgement is final; if government decides to cat against it then their act is illegal.

But the land was taken from them between 84 and 85,during a military regime, likely outside of proper process.

If I recall we discussed a similar case where some dude had his assets seized or destroyed by a military regime and then sued Nigeria decades later and won.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:01am On Oct 22
Spy360:

Normally the individual is supposed to sue. But we all know it would be fruitless until this government passes. A court will reverse it in the next government. This is the kind of rascality we face in this country.

Gbam!

They will just count their losses under this current government and fight for it much later. Let's just hope it will not be another case where they will seize government assets 10 years after this government leaves
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 11:05am On Oct 22
BlueRayDick:


Gbam!

They will just count their losses under this current government and fight for it much later. Let's just hope it will not be another case where they will seize government assets 10 years after this government leaves

First off, what wike has done is likely within the law

The man is a thug, but he is a lawyer and his wife is a lawyer.


Keep in mind that it does not matter if it is unkind, cruel, unfair, devious - the question is - is it legal?

Secondly there is an unresolvable conflict of interest in any case. The judges hearing the case will likely be living in the quarters.

So how do you expect them to rule? Yeah this was illegal and we will all exit our quarters right now.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by abduleez1(m): 11:08am On Oct 22
BlueRayDick:


What did I just read? grin

I watched the video of him saying this thing with splendor and glee yesterday and I dey shake my head.

Although, I think there's stipulations for land or developments given to developers that is time bound. If you don't develop it for a stipulated amount of time, you lose the rights to the government and you reapply to regain it.
I think its kinda legal.

But the way Wike was saying it in public is the problem. He didn't state it with finesse and was nonchalant with the way he constructed his words.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by abduleez1(m): 11:22am On Oct 22
Theflint1:
Okay...can Dangote's oil blocs meet his demand of 650,000 bpd?


Lol, for where him wan see am?? grin grin

The one he has I think is about 40,000 bpd.

Tho he's planning for other new oil exploration ventures so he can acquire more capacity in the future. Before all these ones bam to significant numbers in the hundreds of thousands BPD go reach 6-10 yrs sef if he can't see where to buy oil blocs.
So he's on a long thing and will very much need the inputs of other oil producers.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:23am On Oct 22
GloriousGbola:


First off, what wike has done is likely within the law

The man is a thug, but he is a lawyer and his wife is a lawyer.


Keep in mind that it does not matter if it is unkind, cruel, unfair, devious - the question is - is it legal?

Secondly there is an unresolvable conflict of interest in any case. The judges hearing the case will likely be living in the quarters.

So how do you expect them to rule? Yeah this was illegal and we will all exit our quarters right now.

Please read this carefully:

A Benin High Court presided over by Honourable Justice Peter Akhihiero, has nullified the revocation of the Certificate of Occupancy of parcels of land at Amagba Village in Oredo Local Government Area of Edo State belonging to Pastor Osagie Ize-Iyamu, by the state government.

According to the court documents made available to PUNCH Online on Friday, the nullification order was issued on Monday, 23 September, while the judge delivered the judgement in Suit No: B/637/2021, instituted by Ize-Iyamu and I.O. Farms Limited, challenging the revocation of the 1st Claimant’s right of occupancy to the parcels of land at Ward 36/A, Amagba Village, Benin City.

The court also awarded N5 million in general damages to the Claimant, after holding that the Governor of Edo State, the Attorney General of Edo State, and the Edo State Geographic Information Service, the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Defendants respectively, committed trespass on Ize-Iyamu’s parcels of land at Amagba Village on 7 July 2021.

The court further issued “an order of perpetual injunction restraining the Defendants, their servants, agents, and/or privies from encroaching on or doing anything on the Claimant’s land inconsistent with the Claimant’s rights thereto.”

Ize-Iyamu’s Certificate of Occupancy for his land at Ward 36/A, Amagba Village, Benin City, was revoked by the Edo State Government on Wednesday, 7 July 2021, and the revocation was published on page 47 of the Vanguard newspaper on the same date.

Dissatisfied with the manner of the revocation, the Claimant filed Suit No: B/637/2021, listing the Governor of Edo State, the Attorney General of Edo State, and the Edo State Geographic Information Service as Defendants.

The Claimant argued that the revocation did not comply with the provisions of the Land Use Act, stating that it breached section 28 of the Land Use Act, Cap. L5, Laws of the Federation of Nigeria, 2004, and therefore violated the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, making it unconstitutional, null, and void.

In his judgement, the court resolved both issues in favour of the Claimants, ruling that the revocation of the Claimant’s right of occupancy was in breach of the Land Use Act.

The judge also held that “since the revocation of the Claimant’s right of occupancy was invalid, the Defendants’ entry onto the Claimant’s parcels of land without permission or consent amounts to trespass.”

Continuing, the court held, “Having resolved both issues in favour of the Claimants, I hold that the claims succeed and are granted as follows:

“A declaration that the 1st Defendant’s purported revocation of the 1st Claimant’s right of occupancy to the parcels of land at Ward 36/A, Amagba Village, Benin City, as published in the Vanguard on 7 July 2021, is in breach of section 28 of the Land Use Act, Cap. L5, Laws of the Federation of Nigeria, 2004, and is consequently unconstitutional, illegal, null, and void.”

https://punchng.com/court-nullifies-revocation-of-ize-iyamus-land-in-edo/

Wike being a trained lawyer and his wife being a judge doesn't guarantee he will act within the ambit of the law.

The only point I agree with u is the fact that the judges will definitely be biased in their ruling if Julius Berger ever think of pursuing the case in court
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 11:27am On Oct 22
BlueRayDick:


I never see this kind thing before.

You carry Ur money do business wey u feel say go pay u and bring maximum returns in the long run.

You know there are existing players in ghat market before u invested in the business.

Now u came on board and u are asking government to ban all other market players and allow u to operate because the other players are not allowing ur market to sell.🤷‍♂️

Worse still, Ur business is not ready to pay any damn tax either at the federal, state or local government level.

What happened to all those sponsored news reports saying foreign refineries are scared of competition?

Looks like Dangote is the one scared
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by semid4lyfe(m): 11:27am On Oct 22
iamoyindamola:

Who go give you premium pay for naija
I just they laugh when some guys here say how do people survive with some money this and that
The truth is survival instinct will kick once in the shoes
You will cut cost to the minimum
The only thing is do not get sick

There's security in being paid regularly 12 times in a year.

You know when you'll be paid and how much it'd be so you'll plan accordingly.

Apart from sickness, another advice that I feel is not trumpeted enough in this period is not to impregnate your woman.

I had made the necessary adjustments, cut off unnecessary expenses and was doing fairly okay but wifey unexpectedly got pregnant last year, put to bed in January and since then its been a struggle to keep head above water cos of the extra baby expenses.

Anyways. thank God baby is XY. I take solace in the fact we have completed childbearing and the kids are in our preferred 1:2 XX-XY ratio.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 11:27am On Oct 22
BlueRayDick:


Please read this carefully:



https://punchng.com/court-nullifies-revocation-of-ize-iyamus-land-in-edo/

Wike being a trained lawyer and his wife being a judge doesn't guarantee he will act within the ambit of the law.

The only point I agree with u is the fact that the judges will definitely be biased in their ruling if Julius Berger ever think of pursuing the case in court

But from the article it is clear that edo state government did not follow the process for revocation as stipulated in the land use act.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:38am On Oct 22
GloriousGbola:


But from the article it is clear that edo state government did not follow the process for revocation as stipulated in the land use act.

But nothing that has been narrated by Wike thus far showed due process was followed na.

Abi does due process translate to inviting the MD of Julius Berger to dinner in the night and serving his company revocation letter the next morning ? Baba, don't carry torch for Wike o.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:39am On Oct 22
Ibime:


What happened to all those sponsored news reports saying foreign refineries are scared of competition?

Looks like Dangote is the one scared

grin grin

Obviously his obligations to his lenders is making him a very desperate Alhaji
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 11:48am On Oct 22
semid4lyfe:


There's security in being paid regularly 12 times in a year.

You know when you'll be paid and how much it'd be so you'll plan accordingly.

Apart from sickness, another advice that I feel is not trumpeted enough in this period is not to impregnate your woman.

I had made the necessary adjustments, cut off unnecessary expenses and was doing fairly okay but wifey unexpectedly got pregnant last year, put to bed in January and since then its been a struggle to keep head above water cos of the extra baby expenses.

Anyways. thank God baby was XY. I take solace in the fact we have completed childbearing and the kids are in our preferred 1:2 XX-XY ratio.
Very true 😂
We have only one ATM, she's 3 already madam have been knocking, families and friends are asking, my mother is pressuring
I still no answer if these disturb me too much I will open gofundme and send them link I want to check if they really love me or just hungry for party rice

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