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Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by jaxxy(m): 1:40pm On Nov 12, 2024
herich:

Wow,, so people praying at a vigil are more productive at that moment than people working at beer parlor and night club at the same time.

I think u should go back and re read my 1st post cos ure assuming something I didn't not even say or suggest.
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by Osanoghodua1: 1:43pm On Nov 12, 2024
mikkyangel3:


And you know my tribe how?

Everything is tribal to you.

Ad hominem attacks are the forte of unwashed brutes like yourself.

Tell me what my tribe is, so I can show you how stupid you are

You're are full of a cowardice conversion, you're a bitter soul I won't want the decend low with. My ways are far apart from yours I don't mingle with a parochial creature. May God help you.
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by smokinloud(m): 2:04pm On Nov 12, 2024
herich:

You never voted him, no wonder you seized this opportunity to gaslight and campaign against him. Since you voted for Muslim Muslim, why cry over a Christian vote.
Has our prayers developed Nigeria?
Since prayer wins battles🤣🤣🤣
Before the church prayers, i.e before the advents of the christian missionaries in Nigeria. Tell me which industry we have. Tell me what development we have and juxtapose it with how Nigeria has developed overtime when we start praying. We need more prayers and sacrifices to move our country forward. Peter Obi that doesn't have principle? I will never vote him, someone that champions capitalist ideals yet he poses himself as a messiah and run under a socialist party's banner. Sensible Nigerians can never support his candidacy.
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by smokinloud(m): 2:08pm On Nov 12, 2024
herich:


That doesn't still make them religious.
They acknowledged God but they know when to separate politics from religion.
They know when to apply intelligence in solving their social problems with application of science and technology, unlike you religious bigots retards, that always waste your time praying for even minor problems human intelligence can solve.
If they'd rely on praying and fervent church activities the way you does here, they won't be advanced in development, technology and science 🤣🤣🤣
Don't worry, you have a lot to campaign about come 2027. But I assure you, if Peter Obi doesn't change his "anywhere belle face" politics he would never become the president of this great nation.
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by mikkyangel3: 2:13pm On Nov 12, 2024
Osanoghodua1:


You're are full of a cowardice conversion, you're a bitter soul I won't want the decend low with. My ways are far apart from yours I don't mingle with a parochial creature. May God help you.

Scallywag like yourself
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by smokinloud(m): 2:16pm On Nov 12, 2024
herich:

Wow,, so people praying at a vigil are more productive at that moment than people working at beer parlor and night club at the same time.
Contrary to your stereotypes, many prayer vigil attendees maintain successful careers and contribute positively to their communities, distinguishing themselves from those beer parlour/ nightclub cum ashawo workers.
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by herich(m): 2:34pm On Nov 12, 2024
smokinloud:

Don't worry, you have a lot to campaign about come 2027. But I assure you, if Peter Obi doesn't change his "anywhere belle face" politics he would never become the president of this great nation.
Vote ur MM candidate in 2027 and win ur election but the truth must be told.
Those yapa crews living US/Abroad, ask if they spends all their time in vigil or they they keep vigil at night shift at their place of work in order to foot their excessive bills.
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by herich(m): 2:38pm On Nov 12, 2024
smokinloud:

Before the church prayers, i.e before the advents of the christian missionaries in Nigeria. Tell me which industry we have. Tell me what development we have and juxtapose it with how Nigeria has developed overtime when we start praying. We need more prayers and sacrifices to move our country forward. Peter Obi that doesn't have principle? I will never vote him, someone that champions capitalist ideals yet he poses himself as a messiah and run under a socialist party's banner. Sensible Nigerians can never support his candidacy.
So it was prayer that brought development to nig, wow,,
And prayer that can't lift you out from poverty capital of the world.
Lol,,, what a retard mentality 🤣🤣🤣
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by smokinloud(m): 2:44pm On Nov 12, 2024
herich:


That doesn't still make them religious.
They acknowledged God but they know when to separate politics from religion.
They know when to apply intelligence in solving their social problems with application of science and technology, unlike you religious bigots retards, that always waste your time praying for even minor problems human intelligence can solve.
If they'd rely on praying and fervent church activities the way you does here, they won't be advanced in development, technology and science 🤣🤣🤣
😂🤣 Nigerians with their oversabi, every developed country have historically rooted their development in religious principles. in this video here, Donald J. Trump said the reason why America is going haywire is that religion and christianity is missing in the country and he aims to re-integrate religion, specifically the bible (biblical studies) into the American educational system yet a gentleman from a third world country thinks religion is the obstacle to his country's social and economic advancement.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxq5I3dI2f4?si=N-iz2K8ld2US0NFP
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by smokinloud(m): 2:47pm On Nov 12, 2024
herich:

Vote ur MM candidate in 2027 and win ur election but the truth must be told.
Those yapa crews living US/Abroad, ask if they spends all their time in vigil or they they keep vigil at night shift at their place of work in order to foot their excessive bills.
Those Japa crews are reaping the fruits of the labour of religious patriarchs who worked tirelessly to build a developed country for their children. Donald Trump is trying to make America a praying country again. He knows the benefits and he wants prosperity for his country.
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by smokinloud(m): 2:57pm On Nov 12, 2024
herich:

So it was prayer that brought development to nig, wow,,
And prayer that can't lift you out from poverty capital of the world.
Lol,,, what a retard mentality 🤣🤣🤣
Prayer isn't a magic solution. Progress requires effort and timing. Nigeria is currently cultivating growth and moving toward harvest - Pains of cultivation we have to endure. While hard work is essential, prayer plays a vital role in a nation's advancement, complementing our endeavors.
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by Saintzykie: 4:47pm On Nov 12, 2024
herich:


That doesn't still make them religious.
They acknowledged God but they know when to separate politics from religion.
They know when to apply intelligence in solving their social problems with application of science and technology, unlike you religious bigots retards, that always waste your time praying for even minor problems human intelligence can solve.
If they'd rely on praying and fervent church activities the way you does here, they won't be advanced in development, technology and science 🤣🤣🤣

You see you are not so smart. Sight one instance where religion was separated from politics especially in the middle east. It is my choice and my right to pray for any and everything...everybody has his philosophy and trying to blame a particular sect for what they believe is pretty stupid especially when it has no correlation to what is being said. While he was a governor, what was his track record on employments or FDI, apart from saving money that the next governor probably looted. Don't insult me next time of you don't have anything reasonable to say.

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Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by herich(m): 5:06pm On Nov 12, 2024
smokinloud:

Contrary to your stereotypes, many prayer vigil attendees maintain successful careers and contribute positively to their communities, distinguishing themselves from those beer parlour/ nightclub cum ashawo workers.
What have they invented in prayer Vigil, which has impacted the world
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by herich(m): 5:35pm On Nov 12, 2024
smokinloud:

Contrary to your stereotypes, many prayer vigil attendees maintain successful careers and contribute positively to their communities, distinguishing themselves from those beer parlour/ nightclub cum ashawo workers.
People in the clubs also have successful careers and are rich, otherwise they wouldn't have been in clubs buying a bottle of brandy drinks etc for 200k and above or spends millions in just an outing.
Transaction of goods and services are going on in night clubs, which generates revenue for the government, workers receives salary, which pays their bills and brings food to their tables.
Doctors and nurses are keeping vigil to save lives.
Production companies still run night shifts that produces goods that makes lives easy for you.
Tell us the impact of ur vigil to the society.
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by herich(m): 6:09pm On Nov 12, 2024
Saintzykie:


You see you are not so smart. Sight one instance where religion was separated from politics especially in the middle east. It is my choice and my right to pray for any and everything...everybody has his philosophy and trying to blame a particular sect for what they believe is pretty stupid especially when it has no correlation to what is being said. While he was a governor, what was his track record on employments or FDI, apart from saving money that the next governor probably looted. Don't insult me next time of you don't have anything reasonable to say.

western countries separated religion form state, reason why they're massively developed, civilized, industrialized, with stable economy.
Mentioning middle East means, you're a shithol, and a retard.
Islamic terrorist ravaged Pakistan, Bangladesh, Iraq, Lebanon, Gaza, Syria, Yemen, are your middle East? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 You don't sound smart at all.
If Dubai, UAE are not liberal to western immigrants, they would have been on same level with the aforementioned countries.
Saudi Arabia is also following suit.
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by herich(m): 6:24pm On Nov 12, 2024
smokinloud:

Prayer isn't a magic solution. Progress requires effort and timing. Nigeria is currently cultivating growth and moving toward harvest - Pains of cultivation we have to endure. While hard work is essential, prayer plays a vital role in a nation's advancement, complementing our endeavors.
You very dumb.
No one is condemning prayer.
Even me too pray...
What we are saying is,,,, black men pray for everything, even problems that can be solved by human critical thinking.
Doing that has limited our mental potentials in solving global problems, except for the white, who has abandoned prayer, fasting, vigils and swing into science and technology that has proffer solution to critical problems.
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by wagzy37: 6:24pm On Nov 12, 2024
smokinloud:

😂🤣 Nigerians with their oversabi, every developed country have historically rooted their development in religious principles. in this video here, Donald J. Trump said the reason why America is going haywire is that religion and christianity is missing in the country and he aims to re-integrate religion, specifically the bible (biblical studies) into the American educational system yet a gentleman from a third world country thinks religion is the obstacle to his country's social and economic advancement.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxq5I3dI2f4?si=N-iz2K8ld2US0NFP

And the best person you thought to quote to butress your point is a 34 count felon?

Go do your research. America only started acknowledging God as a nation in the 1950's when they added 'In God we trust' as their motto. Stop the nonsense.

Oh! If the US was so religious like you claim, how come they can elect a felon and a morally bankrupt person as a president. That's them going the complete opposite path to what you just said. If he's the one to bring them 'back to Jesus', why did they kick him out in 2020? Micheal Jackson. Dance around your answers let me see.
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by herich(m): 6:39pm On Nov 12, 2024
smokinloud:

Those Japa crews are reaping the fruits of the labour of religious patriarchs who worked tirelessly to build a developed country for their children. Donald Trump is trying to make America a praying country again. He knows the benefits and he wants prosperity for his country.
Even if they want to start praying..., they still engaged in science and technology, they stil keep vigil in the labs and engineering workshops producing, and selling drug, hospital equipments, gadgets, car etc to you, while you only pray without producing anything.
Americans sells their intelligence to you, to enrich demselvs, while the more you buy their products and pray, you become poorer🤣🤣🤣🤣
No one is condemning prayer but pray and use ur intelligence to produce what you'll eat, prayer can grant you revenue.
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by smokinloud(m): 7:39pm On Nov 12, 2024
herich:

What have they invented in prayer Vigil, which has impacted the world
Let's explore this further. Besides buying imported valueless drinks and impacting the naira's value with their yahoo money, what inventions have Nigeria clubbers made?.
The best and the third best university in Nigeria were founded by these night vigil hosters, at least, this is a significant contribution to our development as a country.
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by smokinloud(m): 8:06pm On Nov 12, 2024
herich:

People in the clubs also have successful careers and are rich, otherwise they wouldn't have been in clubs buying a bottle of brandy drinks etc for 200k and above or spends millions in just an outing.
Transaction of goods and services are going on in night clubs, which generates revenue for the government, workers receives salary, which pays their bills and brings food to their tables.
Doctors and nurses are keeping vigil to save lives.
Production companies still run night shifts that produces goods that makes lives easy for you.
Tell us the impact of ur vigil to the society.
We all know that 90% of people in the club are yahoo boys and ashawo.
These vigil.
This vigil people operate microfinance banks, providing financial support to diverse economic sectors in Nigeria.
This vigil people have the best university and the third best university in Nigeria. Much more.
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by smokinloud(m): 9:00pm On Nov 12, 2024
herich:

You very dumb.
No one is condemning prayer.
Even me too pray...
What we are saying is,,,, black men pray for everything, even problems that can be solved by human critical thinking.
Doing that has limited our mental potentials in solving global problems, except for the white, who has abandoned prayer, fasting, vigils and swing into science and technology that has proffer solution to critical problems.
What has Nigeria atheists contributed to the economy?.
The white men didn't abandon prayer and swing to technology. As a matter of fact, white men were more successful when they were more prayerful than now. Their golden age in technology was when they were more prayerful and many of their scientists were prayerful Christians.
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by smokinloud(m): 9:07pm On Nov 12, 2024
wagzy37:


And the best person you thought to quote to butress your point is a 34 count felon?

Go do your research. America only started acknowledging God as a nation in the 1950's when they added 'In God we trust' as their motto. Stop the nonsense.

Oh! If the US was so religious like you claim, how come they can elect a felon and a morally bankrupt person as a president. That's them going the complete opposite path to what you just said. If he's the one to bring them 'back to Jesus', why did they kick him out in 2020? Micheal Jackson. Dance around your answers let me see.
What were the offences for which he was convicted?.
Sleeping with pornstars and paying them money to shush them?.
Falsifying his own company records to pay pornstars who want to tarnish his image?!.

We don't judge people for their past in Christendom.
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by smokinloud(m): 9:24pm On Nov 12, 2024
wagzy37:


You very dumb.
No one is condemning prayer.
Even me too pray...
What we are saying is,,,, black men pray for everything, even problems that can be solved by human critical thinking.
Doing that has limited our mental potentials in solving global problems, except for the white, who has abandoned prayer, fasting, vigils and swing into science and technology that has proffer solution to critical problems.


Go do your research. America only started acknowledging God as a nation in the 1950's when they added 'In God we trust' as their motto. Stop the nonsense.


Imagine how inconsistent you are. If US start acknowledging God in 1950 when did they abandon prayer and swing into science technology considering the fact that most of their scientific and technological breakthrough occured before 1950?.
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by herich(m): 9:31pm On Nov 12, 2024
smokinloud:

We all know that 90% of people in the club are yahoo boys and ashawo.
These vigil.
This vigil people operate microfinance banks, providing financial support to diverse economic sectors in Nigeria.
This vigil people have the best university and the third best university in Nigeria. Much more.
The coordinators of the vigil are only expanding their business by building universities for Yahoo boys and men, while the vigil attendees can't afford those universities but always keeping vigil to pray for amenities government can provide for them.
While in America, government provides amenities for her citizens.
But here, instead of to hold your government accountable to provide work for you to be productive, so you won't be praying for amenities. you'll end up in the vigil, praying for amenities ur government supposed to provide for you.
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by herich(m): 9:41pm On Nov 12, 2024
smokinloud:

What has Nigeria atheists contributed to the economy?.
The white men didn't abandon prayer and swing to technology. As a matter of fact, white men were more successful when they were more prayerful than now. Their golden age in technology was when they were more prayerful and many of their scientists were prayerful Christians.
Abeg na this brain you dey use cross road? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Scientists that are even More atheists or don't even pray. Always in the lab, workshop etc brainstorming.
This ur brain is too shallow 🤣🤣🤣.
Assuming we even agree with your dumb idea, that. "Golden age of technology was when they were prayerful" WHY HAS YOUR OWN PRAYERS HERE HASN'T BROUGHT TECHNOLOGY TO NIGERIA or do you need to pray for 3 centuries before that could take effect.
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by smokinloud(m): 9:44pm On Nov 12, 2024
herich:

Even if they want to start praying..., they still engaged in science and technology, they stil keep vigil in the labs and engineering workshops producing, and selling drug, hospital equipments, gadgets, car etc to you, while you only pray without producing anything.
Americans sells their intelligence to you, to enrich demselvs, while the more you buy their products and pray, you become poorer🤣🤣🤣🤣
No one is condemning prayer but pray and use ur intelligence to produce what you'll eat, prayer can grant you revenue.
The goods America sells to your yahoo boys are often products of advancements made possible by prayerful Christian scientists' groundbreaking work, which was deeply rooted in their faith and prayerful approach to science.




1. Isaac Newton (Physics, Mathematics)
2. Galileo Galilei (Physics, Astronomy)
3. Johannes Kepler (Astronomy)
4. Louis Pasteur (Biology)
5. Albert Einstein (Physics)
6. Marie Curie (Physics, Chemistry)
7. George Washington Carver (Agriculture)
8. Francis Collins (Genetics) and many more made groundbreaking research, rooted in faith that has contributed to and shapes many of the products that your nightclubbers buy from them.
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by smokinloud(m): 9:59pm On Nov 12, 2024
herich:

The coordinators of the vigil are only expanding their business by building universities for Yahoo boys and men, while the vigil attendees can't afford those universities but always keeping vigil to pray for amenities government can provide for them.
While in America, government provides amenities for her citizens.
But here, instead of to hold your government accountable to provide work for you to be productive, so you won't be praying for amenities. you'll end up in the vigil, praying for amenities ur government supposed to provide for you.
Firstly, nobody goes to vigil to pray for government's free amenities...
How do you fund the best university in Nigeria by providing free education to the masses?!. You're dumb, Nigeria universities with lower standards spend trillions of naira annually to run university activities and you think the best university in Nigeria would offer free education to masses? Where do you want them to get the money to fund the school?.

Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by smokinloud(m): 10:10pm On Nov 12, 2024
herich:

Abeg na this brain you dey use cross road? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Scientists that are even More atheists or don't even pray. Always in the lab, workshop etc brainstorming.
This ur brain is too shallow 🤣🤣🤣.
Assuming we even agree with your dumb idea, that. "Golden age of technology was when they were prayerful" WHY HAS YOUR OWN PRAYERS HERE HASN'T BROUGHT TECHNOLOGY TO NIGERIA or do you need to pray for 3 centuries before that could take effect.

The same question we need to ask Nigeria atheists, how long does it take your critical thinking to produce tangible things for Nigerians beyond condemning Christians?!.
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by asamaigho(m): 3:40pm On Nov 13, 2024
Vlibray:

We are not what ?. Can you read ?. I said Nigeria is one of the most religious nations of the world. If you still disagree, then show me your research on the 20 most religious country in the world Mr long sighted.
And btw, this is about religion in Nigeria. (I'm not targeting your religion)
But let me tell you this since we are both Christians. Nigeria would be a better place If every Christian in Nigeria decides not to be complicit in the corruption happening in the private and public sector.
Do you remember what the word Christian means ?. It means Christ like. Are the so called Christian in Nigeria Christ like ?
The leaders are bad, but are the followers good ?. The people we elect to offices are a reflection of who we are. If Tinubu is the President, then I know the followers are not any better.


for d fact dat u didnt c S. arabia, iran, israel in d list 1ST 10 begs more to b desired.
2ndly u r being clever by half to try digress d issue, personal relationship with Christ is a diff topic,,,,
The question hangs around night vigil being the problem of our "production" and my question is, how come night clubs never affected our production, but only night vigil.
Nigeria is a conglomeration of diff religions, now for a country to work, institution has to be in place for checks and balances,, thus weda a person is a christian or a muslim, as long as the institution functions as it should, the d former is of no importance.
Bro irrespective of faith, humans r generally have various degree tendency to b corrupt. That's y functional institution is required and not incorruptible men.

ignore my spellings am in a hurry

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Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by asamaigho(m): 3:44pm On Nov 13, 2024
ProudNigerian01:

I am purely talking about Christ followers, involving Islam in the issue changes the whole dynamics of the discussion, that's because they are not same and I am not a muslim.

As for your question about who determines when to pray:

Serving God in my opinion shouldn't be determined by either the church or society but the individual involved. It is a personal relationship, the society or church will not speak for you on the judgment day.

If your church or society is doing that which is wrong or sinful, we are expected to come out from their midst and be different:

2Cor.6.17 - Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

Rev.18.4 - And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
No bro, churches have programs, thus they have d right to fix how these pray programs runs.....personnal prayer routine is personal.
Serving God in my opinion shouldn't be determined by either the church or society but the individual involved.
infact d above defeats peter obi narrative, cos he cannot tell me wen to pray, weda its in d night or day.
men nigerian youths r to sensational, leaving d crux of d matter.

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Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by Saintzykie: 3:29pm On Nov 14, 2024
herich:


western countries separated religion form state, reason why they're massively developed, civilized, industrialized, with stable economy.
Mentioning middle East means, you're a shithol, and a retard.
Islamic terrorist ravaged Pakistan, Bangladesh, Iraq, Lebanon, Gaza, Syria, Yemen, are your middle East? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 You don't sound smart at all.
If Dubai, UAE are not liberal to western immigrants, they would have been on same level with the aforementioned countries.
Saudi Arabia is also following suit.

You are a very big fool and you deserve to be stoned to death. Read the analysis you wrote here and explain your analysis to anyone around you and they will see how stupid you are.
Re: Emmanuel Iren Condemns Peter Obi's Comment About Christians Going To Night Vigil by faebenezer5star: 10:50am On Dec 07, 2024
frankson1:




Even if you watch the video 100x you won't still understand because una no kuku get sense before lipsrsealed
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