MadamVanessa:




So supporting Rhapsody is now tithing. This man is confused. They always look for any slightest opportunity to twist things to suits their sinister motives on tithe. Elon Musk will be the topic of sermon henceforth in these cone men churches, and very sadly, their blind followers will believe and got scam of all their savings.

The most funniest tithing preaching I have ever heard in history was from David Ibiyeomie. The cone man shamelessly said that the reason God chased Adam and Eve out of the garden of Eden was because Adam ate the tithe. Omò 🤣🤣🤣 And you see learned people listening to him with rapt attention.

Religion is so powerful , it hypnotize you that you're not aware of your own foolishness. religion makes your foolishness looks like you're being rational.

Having said that, I am a staunch Christian and a believer but i dont subscribe and will never subscribe to the philosophy and teaching of tithing. Don't just bring it to where Vanessa is.

JuanDeDios:
Q: Does Elon Musk pay tithe?
A: Elon Musk is the top partner of RoR and gives $10 million.

Doesn't answer the question.

rentAcock:
Elon Musk is the antichrist.

Iseoluwani:


even if i told you, will u believe.

smokinloud:

As long as Jesus endorsed it, it is not heresy when church fathers include tithes as a tenet of faith in their particular churches.


Matthew 23:23
[23]Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

press9jatv:
Wow that’s huge investment here. Really the gate of hell will never prevail in the church ⛪️

Capillary88:
So when should do what?

The way these pastors react when it comes to money is really very annoying, to say the least.

I'm taking a risk of doing this cos there's no way out. Anything u can help with, pls help. It's like I'm lifeless right now due to hunger

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smokinloud:

Okay, show me one Apostle that baptized in the name of the father, son and Holy Spirit.
Show me any Apostle that draft out any biblical doctrine as dogma for the church.

femi4:
That’s not an endorsement. Show us where the Apostle referenced it or Jesus used it again. It was directed to the Pharisees in the 7 woes message to them

femi4:
Oga, corneliius got baptized via Paul instruction
Peter also order baptism here
Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ . . .” (Acts 2:38)

PromiseJonah:
Q: Are you the one paying your children's school fees summed 70k?

A: I give them mo them monthly allowance of 500k monthly


Isn't that reasonable enough??

smokinloud:

I would not say olodo Christians full nairaland but..., At the time of Jesus there was no christian. What exist then was Jews followers of Christ. In fact, Jesus didn't come to create religion. He came to establish his church. JESUS never preached heresy, whatever he says is what his true followers should follow.

Michael547:
So do you agree that Jesus was saying that his true followers should pay 'tithe of mint and anise and cummin' instead of cash or money in Matthew 23:23?

smokinloud:

Money represent the value of goods and services within an economy. Don't you know this?.

Michael547:

Where did Jesus mention money in Matthew 23:23?
Or do you want to deny that there was money in the time of Jesus but nowhere did Jesus mention money in Matthew 23:23.

smokinloud:

There was money but money was not widely used. [b]There was limited money system and the best way to be accurate is giving tithes by goods.
Secondly, Bartering economy, goods were widely exchanged for services.
The Jewish community were agricultural community so it was easier to trade by barter for accuracy. [/b]

Michael547:

So kindly show me where Jesus said that money could be used as tithe in Matthew 23:23?

smokinloud:

Kindly show me where Jesus teaches that trade by barter should stop and transition from barter to monetary economy or where Jesus say you should have sex with your wife.

Michael547:

Your claim that money was not widely used int he time of Jesus is completely false by the screenshot below.
Nowhere did Jesus say that trade by barter should stop. Jesus plainly said in Matthew 23:23 that you should pay 'tithe of mint and anise and cummin'. So why are you twisting Jesus words?

I didn't say there was no money, did you read my comment at all?. I said money was not widely used and accuracy was issue. Okay, since you include Judas in your screenshot, why was Judas paid 30 pieces of silver instead of money (denarius, shekel, or lepton)?!. Why pieces of silver? Why not real money?!.

Michael547:

Your claim that money was not widely used int he time of Jesus is completely false by the screenshot below.
Nowhere did Jesus say that trade by barter should stop. Jesus plainly said in Matthew 23:23 that you should pay 'tithe of mint and anise and cummin'. So why are you twisting Jesus words?

smokinloud:

I didn't say there was no money, did you read my comment at all?. I said money was not widely used and accuracy was issue. Okay, since you include Judas in your screenshot, why was Judas paid 30 pieces of silver instead of money (denarius, shekel, or lepton)?!. Why pieces of silver? Why not real money?!.

Michael547:

Your claim that money was not widely used int he time of Jesus is completely false by the screenshot below.
Nowhere did Jesus say that trade by barter should stop. Jesus plainly said in Matthew 23:23 that you should pay 'tithe of mint and anise and cummin'. So why are you twisting Jesus words?

Michael547:


That is what it was prophesied that he would be paid with. Show me a research that says that money was not widely used in the time of Jesus.

Kindly show me where Jesus said we can pay money as tithe in Matthew 23:23.

smokinloud:

Did you read my comment ?, I said where the Apostles use the formula "THE NAME OF THE FATHER, THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT" as Jesus prescribed in the gospels for baptism. You can never see anywhere in the bible where the disciples baptized in that formula. Does it mean they don't obey Jesus?, far from it. Not every single action of the Apostles is recorded in the Acts of apostle. They were summarized and we have to read the bible in context to derive doctrine from it.
Matthew 28:19
[19]Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

This is the formula gan gan
Acts 2:38
[38]Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Here it only says "in the name of Jesus" not the name of the father the son and the holy spirit.

The fact, the apostle actually baptized in that formula but what was recorded was not the formula, it was just Peter's preaching not the act of baptism gan gan

smokinloud:

Used what?, JESUS said something is good and you are asking me where he used it. If Jesus said something he meant it. Jesus is not hypocritical who is double standard.
If Jesus condemn tithing then early church fathers would have condemned it too. We see early church fathers preaching tithes just like Jesus said it's good.
This is what Clement of Alexandria said about tithe:

"The tithes of the fruits and of the flocks taught both piety towards the Deity and not to covetously grasp everything. Instead, one should share gifts of kindness with one’s neighbors. For it was from these, I reckon, and from the firstfruits that the priests were maintained.”

smokinloud:

under the Roman Empire, after the death and resurrection of Christ, people still trade by barter even when money was the official means of trade.

DisLifeSha:
Nobody is fighting God. Life is business. The god of men are running their business. Your eye go open. If you like continue to mumu

Michael547:

Oga where did Jesus say you should pay tithe as money in Matthew 23:23? That is my question.

femi4:
lolz....Jesus has the power to forgive sin, so baptism in His name is valid.

John the Baptist baptised in the name of God.

If the Apostles err, Jesus would have called them to order like he did to Peter in his dream about Gentiles