wonder233:
Still the same basic populism - deify the Oba, win the support of the people of Edo South. Do a few white elephant projects, invest heavily in PR... 2years is gone. Then in the 3rd and 4th year, abandon governance and invest heavily in re-election campaign.

That's how we roll in this country.
And to the people, that's governance.

"Your state? My state is Edo. Search for my previous posts here on nairaland.
3 flyovers? That will be commendable if he gets it done. The problem with you, just like many others is that y'all narrow minded. So the politicians gets very little or nothing done cos all you people care about are mundane meaningless things: "who respected the Oba", "culture, traditions", bla bla bla bunch of intangible things.. By the time the politicians make so much noise about those things, you forget they collect billions every month of your money. You will now come here and be shouting "flyover, flyover". Then the cycle continues.
Oshiomhole came in and said Lucky Igbinedion did not respect Oba, obaseki came in and said Oba should not keep artefacts, Okoebholo has entered and said Oba can keep artefacts.
Is that the governance? Outline your economic blueprint and policies with practical steps for implementation, stop talking about Oba this Oba that,

kedeojo:
That is too your weak thinking, Oshiomole has opened the eyes of Edolite and can't be decieved. For a governor who has promised three vital flyovers in his first tenure and if delivered with other important infrastructure and you will still crap this nonsense. Maybe in your state, that is how things are currently be done. Edo don't forgive a governor during voting when he has done the wrong. We used Obaseki now as a scapegoat. You can't be fighting everyone upon non performance and think you will bring a successor.

Shattuck:
and the people he fought has anyone come out to tell you why he fought them, it's pathetic when I see grown men repeating these lines, it appears to me like you guys can't reason for yourselves, aside the disagreement with the palace, one thing you can't please everyone especially when you are in power, when he fought oshiomhole, if obaseki was wrong why didn't oshiomhole come out and tell Edo people how he was betrayed, why hasn't any of them done the same.

MR man.. you are missing the point. In politics everyone makes concession. He left APC in acrimonious circumstances...same thing happened in PDP where he divided the party. Even his deputy who put his polical career on the line for him during his travails with APC ...what did he repay him with? If one person keep having problems with everyone else..does it mean he is always right? And you think everyone will have the time to come out and say he did something t o them? The man is a serial betrayal. He is a bad politician. I have nothing against him because I think he performed well as a governor but he must learn to make little concessions as a politician or he should remain in the private sector.

Damseldammie:
Congratulations HRM

it's emperor majesty.

completeskills:


Yes....using two different parties. APC and PDP. I hope you know what he did to both parties that gave him their platforms?

And so what??
He did his full 8 years and that's what matters to him. If you were a politician, you'll do the same thing. When APC denied him ticket for thier own selfish interest, you expect him to fold his hands and look??

Wike is presently in PDP and APC at the same time. What do you have to say about that?

Chucks13:


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Loser spotted.

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kedeojo:
That is too your weak thinking, Oshiomole has opened the eyes of Edolite and can't be decieved. For a governor who has promised three vital flyovers in his first tenure and if delivered with other important infrastructure and you will still crap this nonsense. Maybe in your state, that is how things are currently be done. Edo don't forgive a governor during voting when he has done the wrong. We used Obaseki now as a scapegoat. You can't be fighting everyone upon non performance and think you will bring a successor.

Well said my friend. Kudos!

kedeojo:
Your father that is literate were has seen got to in politics. Even

U sef no Sabi English

completeskills:


MR man.. you are missing the point. In politics everyone makes concession. He left APC in acrimonious circumstances...same thing happened in PDP where he divided the party. Even his deputy who put his polical career on the line for him during his travails with APC ...what did he repay him with? If one person keep having problems with everyone else..does it mean he is always right? And you think everyone will have the time to come out and say he did something t o them? The man is a serial betrayal. He is a bad politician. I have nothing against him because I think he performed well as a governor but he must learn to make little concessions as a politician or he should remain in the private sector.

you don't get my point obviously, the whole " serial betrayal" thing is just some bullshit that has been spread and folks like you just echo it without even analysing it yourselves, tell me how did he betray shaibu? By your understanding of politics was it shaibu's turn to become governor? When it was obviously Edo central's turn, how did he betray oshiomhole also, oshiomhole wanted to give him the ambode treatment if you were in his position would you not fight, even after he decamped to the pdp he still reached out to oshiomhole several times, he invited him for events even awarded him, he never maligned oshiomhole in public or fight him the way some do by destroying their houses, who else did he betray, you all misunderstand obaseki's personality, obudu oshiomhole's deputy had intentions then of succeeding oshiomhole, but oshiomhole opposed him, why is oshiomhole not called a betrayer? A man must have its own conviction, and betrayer for me, I based on principles, imagine wike saying obaseki betrayed him, if you ask the idiot how, you will see it was because obaseki did not join him his aso ebi G 5 or whatever, did obaseki betray the pdp? No. So if obaseki had joined wike in his madness, I guess you would not call him a betrayer then, but if he had done that he would have betrayed the pdp, in that case who should he be loyal to? Is it not right that he was loyal to the pdp rather than wike? Yet you all still call him betrayer? The only thing you hate is for people you have helped to even have a opinion or say in anything, for people like you you believe that once you have received any help, that individual owns you, your thoughts, your actions your opinion and everything isn't that slavery and foolishness.

Shattuck:
you don't get my point obviously, the whole " serial betrayal" thing is just some bullshit that has been spread and folks like you just echo it without even analysing it yourselves, tell me how did he betray shaibu? By your understanding of politics was it shaibu's turn to become governor? When it was obviously Edo central's turn, how did he betray oshiomhole also, oshiomhole wanted to give him the ambode treatment if you were in his position would you not fight, even after he decamped to the pdp he still reached out to oshiomhole several times, he invited him for events even awarded him, he never maligned oshiomhole in public or fight him the way some do by destroying their houses, who else did he betray, you all misunderstand obaseki's personality, obudu oshiomhole's deputy had intentions then of succeeding oshiomhole, but oshiomhole opposed him, why is oshiomhole not called a betrayer? A man must have its own conviction, and betrayer for me, I based on principles, imagine wike saying obaseki betrayed him, if you ask the idiot how, you will see it was because obaseki did not join him his aso ebi G 5 or whatever, did obaseki betray the pdp? No. So if obaseki had joined wike in his madness, I guess you would not call him a betrayer then, but if he had done that he would have betrayed the pdp, in that case who should he be loyal to? Is it not right that he was loyal to the pdp rather than wike? Yet you all still call him betrayer? The only thing you hate is for people you have helped to even have a opinion or say in anything, for people like you you believe that once you have received any help, that individual owns you, your thoughts, your actions your opinion and everything isn't that slavery and foolishness.

I have gone through your post and have seen that you have a soft spot for obaseki. He did well generally in governance but his way of playing politics is too arrogant and self destructive. I like him too and actually wanted him to win but you are allowing your likeness for him to overshadow his short coming. You want to potray him as a saint When you know he is flawed in his relationship with people around him. When a particular issues keep happening between one person and several people..then it is time to look inward. Obaseki might have his own conviction but his antecedents will not inspire anyone to take a chance on him in future. Separate emotional attachment from your view of him and you will see how power drunk he was. For instance...in the issue of the Oba concerning the returned artefacts..what was he trying to prove? Apart from showing that he has the power to hold on to those items? The problem with the way we play our politics is that once we like someone...we feel they can never be wrong. Just answer this simple question... do you think any party will support someone like obaseki for any political position again? Be frank with yourself.


And a little advice for you....Learn to outline your opinions without littering it with insultive words. It makes no difference to your argument apart from brewing bitterness

completeskills:


I have gone through your post and have seen that you have a soft spot for obaseki. He did well generally in governance but his way of playing politics is too arrogant and self destructive. I like him too and actually wanted him to win but you are allowing your likeness for him to overshadow his short coming. You want to potray him as a saint When you know he is flawed in his relationship with people around him. When a particular issues keep happening between one person and several people..then it is time to look inward. Obaseki might have his own conviction but his antecedents will not inspire anyone to take a chance on him in future. Separate emotional attachment from your view of him and you will see how power drunk he was. For instance...in the issue of the Oba concerning the returned artefacts..what was he trying to prove? Apart from showing that he has the power to hold on to those items? The problem with the way we play our politics is that once we like someone...we feel they can never be wrong. Just answer this simple question... do you think any party will support someone like obaseki for any political position again? Be frank with yourself.


And a little advice for you....Learn to outline your opinions without littering it with insultive words. It makes no difference to your argument apart from brewing bitterness

I apologise if my comment may appear insultive, my take on obaseki is this, I want issues about him to be judged singular in the case with the palace I think he was wrong on that, that's just it, now just because he was wrong on that does not for me serve as a justification to just about any accusation from any other individual, let me be practical a bit, when they talk about obaseki and the betrayal thing they talk about how he betrayed his deputy, but for me that wasn't betrayal at all shaibu governorship ambition was wrong and unfair to edo central, how then did he betray shaibu, I am non partisan as it relates to politics I know he has quite a long list of aggrieved person's even in his party, yes maybe he has a character flaw, I just have a problem with the narrative that sometimes folks ,most especially Apc folks use to gaslight the masses by making folks like shaibu, oshiomhole, wike to look like victims, they will tell you osinbajo betrayed Tinubu, by running for president, igbos betray Tinubu by not voting for him in the last ekection, if you live in Lagos and you do not support Tinubu or Apc then you are a betrayer, the word betrayer as it relates to Nigerian politics for me just sounds like a word used to justify slavery and gaslight individuals against having personal ambition or say against a suppose godfather, the same issue is playing out in Rivers State you see how fubara is getting lots of support, against wike,but there are certain folks who desperately try to paint wike as the victim. In context when you look at the US elections Joe Biden wanted to run for a second term, George clonney met with Obama, and Obama applied pressure on Biden to drop out of the race, due to Biden health and poor debatethis is the same Biden who was vice to Obama, Americans and democrats never said how Obama betrayed biden, because Obama's concern was fair and valid.

Shattuck:
I apologise if my comment may appear insultive, my take on obaseki is this, I want issues about him to be judged singular in the case with the palace I think he was wrong on that, that's just it, now just because he was wrong on that does not for me serve as a justification to just about any accusation from any other individual, let me be practical a bit, when they talk about obaseki and the betrayal thing they talk about how he betrayed his deputy, but for me that wasn't betrayal at all shaibu governorship ambition was wrong and unfair to edo central, how then did he betray shaibu, I am non partisan as it relates to politics I know he has quite a long list of aggrieved person's even in his party, yes maybe he has a character flaw, I just have a problem with the narrative that sometimes folks ,most especially Apc folks use to gaslight the masses by making folks like shaibu, oshiomhole, wike to look like victims, they will tell you osinbajo betrayed Tinubu, by running for president, igbos betray Tinubu by not voting for him in the last ekection, if you live in Lagos and you do not support Tinubu or Apc then you are a betrayer, the word betrayer as it relates to Nigerian politics for me just sounds like a word used to justify slavery and gaslight individuals against having personal ambition or say against a suppose godfather, the same issue is playing out in Rivers State you see how fubara is getting lots of support, against wike,but there are certain folks who desperately try to paint wike as the victim. In context when you look at the US elections Joe Biden wanted to run for a second term, George clonney met with Obama, and Obama applied pressure on Biden to drop out of the race, due to Biden health and poor debatethis is the same Biden who was vice to Obama, Americans and democrats never said how Obama betrayed biden, because Obama's concern was fair and valid.

This your analysis is spot on. I do not believe in the definition of betrayal as in the instance you gave. That's flawed loyalty supporters show to politicians. It also has some tribal undertone. I only called him a betrayal because of his many battles with those who helped him to rise. I believe there were some agreement in place which he agreed to before he was supported. Weather these agreements were right or wrong is a matter for another day. He reneged on them once he got what he wanted. He did it to APC and again in PDP. He is courageous but in Nigeria where politics is about feeding fat on the common patrimony by party chieftains.. those who invested in his election will feel betrayed. That's why I called him a betrayal....and he does not know when to draw the line like in the case of the Oba. I also know obaseki is not a career politician that's why he did most of the things he did. We need more non career politicians like him and Sim Fubara so that Godfathers will cease to exist in Nigeria politics.

completeskills:


This your analysis is spot on. I do not believe in the definition of betrayal as in the instance you gave. That's flawed loyalty supporters show to politicians. It also has some tribal undertone. I only called him a betrayal because of his many battles with those who helped him to rise. I believe there were some agreement in place which he agreed to before he was supported. Weather these agreements were right or wrong is a matter for another day. He reneged on them once he got what he wanted. He did it to APC and again in PDP. He is courageous but in Nigeria where politics is about feeding fat on the common patrimony by party chieftains.. those who invested in his election will feel betrayed. That's why I called him a betrayal....and he does not know when to draw the line like in the case of the Oba. I also know obaseki is not a career politician that's why he did most of the things he did. We need more non career politicians like him and Sim Fubara so that Godfathers will cease to exist in Nigeria politics.

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