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Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by Thewrath(m): 7:07pm On Dec 01
lucianohase:
Bro in as much as i am not from South East, but I v come to realise that those people have a way of surviving more than any other tribe in this country. They leave here with us in Rivers and their survival instinct inspire me alot. You said they don't produce much but I know we in Rivers have boarder with Imo and Abia and I know they have oil. With that little they have, if every one is told to go back to there region, u will marvel at what will become of their place. So don't look down on them oh .....Moreover, now we in festive mood, when they start travelling u will see how it looks as if the economic activities of Port Harcourt city has slowed down. So bro no look down on them oh, those people have high rate of survival instinct from my observation.
You didn’t get the sarcasm bro,since always claimed that SE is small and doesn’t generate shi shi,let them let SE go na but NO…they know SE has oil and largest gas deposit in Nigeria and mostly west Africa …but they keep inflating north and sw population and igr generation to make it look and sound like they generate more to the federal purse!!

One lunatic was even calling SE parasites,then let the parasites go na so you can save more,they won’t because they know the truth !
Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by emmyN(m): 7:08pm On Dec 01
I don't have all the details of the tax reform bill, but from the little I've read, if this scales, it would be the best legacy the Tinubu-led government will be leaving. There are too many docile states in Nigeria leaching off of others. At least this will get them to sit up, prioritize governance and improve their economies.

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Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by Bluntemperor: 7:09pm On Dec 01
epainos:

You want the north to explode. grin Zulum, Udume, and now Atiku have been vibrating.......lol. a beg let Naija win this VAT issue before we move to resource control oooo. For now, it is the gateway to resource control. It is a win for top revenue generating states. No more Bamboo dey work, Monkey dey chop. Lol. Resource control will definitely enter.
To me, the north should start getting ready to work their ass and generate enough revenue.
I am not a fan of Tinubu, but perhaps he is the one who fits Nigerians. Lol. The north will never side with him again, but it's too late. Lol. grin
Let them get high blood pressure gradually so they can live long to see what is called real fairness and equality. grin We don't want them die of heart attack now. Let's pressure them gradually, systematically, and logically. grin

Nobody gives a bleep,all we are saying is let everyone/ every State contribute -something to the Table and curiously,some sensible and Smart Northerners are joining in the Success of this Tax,as they reason alongside,unlike Atiku,Ndume, Zulum and few Politicians,who knows the truth but are playing Politics.
Nigeria will be great!

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Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by Lanretoye(m): 7:10pm On Dec 01
trutharena:
Atiku is always making sense.
so make I Dey drink beer and smoke with my hard earned money then some people that call it haram be using the proceeds to fend abi,make I no swear for you o

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Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by emmyN(m): 7:12pm On Dec 01
Objectivist04:


More grass yes , more water no
North has abundant water

Where I stayed when I was in the north, some wells dry up during the dry season. It's rare to find that down south.

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Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by pongwa(m): 7:12pm On Dec 01
Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by Objectivist04: 7:13pm On Dec 01
aribisala0:

I am talking about rainfall and round the year water supply
I have zero patience for stupid talk

We are talking about longer rainy seasons and 2 to 3 times the amount of rainfall

This is easily verifiable not nonsense like

"Abundant water '

They have had
water shortage in Kano for decades

There is nothing like that in the south

Where do you hear of. Fish farming in Nigeria

. water is not an issue in the north as they have Rivers , lakes and streams
Again the water table beneath is closer to the surface in the north than most of the southern Nigeria . Having more rainfall is different from having access to body of water. Eg Enugu experience more rainfall than most if not all northern states but remains the driest state in the country with no river or major body of water just small lakes and tiny streams with water table miles beneath and thereby making it impossible to sink boreholes successfully .

So it is not about rain but ability to retain water.

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Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by Objectivist04: 7:21pm On Dec 01
Lanretoye:
so make I Dey drink beer and smoke with my hard earned money then some people that call it haram be using the proceeds to fend abi,make I no swear for you o

Islam does not regard smoking as Haram.. get your facts right more cigarettes are consumed in the north than any part of the country as most people smoke there due to abstinence from alcohol.
If all these are about tobacco, then north will generate more revenue than others.
Ask those who work in tobacco company their biggest costumers
Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by Andersonken(m): 7:22pm On Dec 01
Most of the develop countries in the world today are doing something very similar to this reform,
Why is the complain coming mostly from the Northern states? Lol,

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Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by aribisala0(m): 7:23pm On Dec 01
Objectivist04:

. water is not an issue in the north as they have Rivers , lakes and streams
Again the water table beneath is closer to the surface in the north than most of the southern Nigeria . Having more rainfall is different from having access to body of water. Eg Enugu experience more rainfall than most if not all northern states but remains the driest state in the country with no river or major body of water just small lakes and tiny streams with water table miles beneath and thereby making it impossible to sink boreholes successfully .

So it is not about rain but ability to retain water.

Why are you arguing foolishly
I said there is more water in the south is that true or false?

So why the irrelevant talk

I don't know why people insist on being stupid
Do they have more rivers per square kilometre?

Ability to retain water so why do they bring animals to the south to feed

If you read my post clearly I was saying we neglect the sector
If we prioritise it we can produce more cows in the south
Even now there are already thousands of Fulani cows here
If we industrialise it they cannot produce more cows than in the whole North than Cross River and Akwa Ibom


Already from now they run to the South with their cows till May

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Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by Objectivist04: 7:27pm On Dec 01
emmyN:


Where I stayed when I was in the north, some wells dry up during the dry season. It's rare to find that down south.

Come Enugu and see how well dries just few days after rain stops.

North have body of water like rivers streams lakes etc, and that is every part of north . . again it is easy to sink boreholes and get water in the north than some parts of the south.
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What North doesn't have is ocean and I don't think animals drink ocean water.

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Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by skywalker240(m): 7:33pm On Dec 01
Back in 2018/2019

I WILL RESTRUCTURE NIGERIA



2022/2023

I WILL GUARANTEE TRUE FISCAL FEDERALISM


2024

Na him de tok now oo

We've always known this Man to be a crooked selfish individual, probably even that his Scrap NNPCL statement was a farce. Thank God he didn't won the election, he would have been worst.

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Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by emmyN(m): 7:36pm On Dec 01
RecessionistPMB:
It's south-south people that has been too docile that i blame.
Tinubu want to enrich lagos more through this policy, forgetting that same Lagos was built from the collective resources from all geopolitical zones, as a former capital territory.

If Tinubu is trying to restructure the tax system, why is he not using the same template for the resources generated from other regions? South south, you guys has slept for far too long. The entire federating unit will share the oil money, while lagos will take bulk of tax generated within their state.

Yeah, this is one grey area I noticed in the bill. The biggest beneficiary would be Lagos because they generate the most tax.

The oil-producing state of the south-south need to diversify their economies. You would be surprised the amount of money that would be realized if they plugged all leakages and appropriate funds to their rightful channels.

The 13% derivation they get presently is grossly underutilized, most finding their ways into private pockets.

Also, the reps from the south-south region are sitting ducks. They don't speak up for their regions. I remember a time when oil corporations were mandated to site their headquarters in the region they generate their revenues. This was never followed through. So you see, Lagos is benefitting from what could have been accrued to the south.

The bill is a wakeup call. All hands must be on deck.

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Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by skywalker240(m): 7:37pm On Dec 01
Andersonken:
Most of the develop countries in the world today are doing something very similar to this reform,
Why is the complain coming mostly from the Northern states? Lol,
Clearly shows that a particular region is leeching the others without contributing anything

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Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by beejay85: 7:40pm On Dec 01
Objectivist04:


More grass yes , more water no
North has abundant water
How can you have more grass and have less water ?
grin grin
Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by skywalker240(m): 7:40pm On Dec 01
emmyN:


Yeah, this is one grey area I noticed in the bill. The biggest beneficiary would be Lagos because they generate the most tax.

The oil-producing state of the south-south need to diversify their economies. You would be surprised the amount of money that would be realized if they plugged all leakages and appropriate funds to their rightful channels.

The 13% derivation they get presently is grossly underutilized, most finding their ways into private pockets.

Also, the reps from the south-south region are sitting ducks. They don't speak up for their regions. I remember a time when oil corporations were mandated to site their headquarters in the region they generate their revenues. This was never followed through. So you see, Lagos is benefitting from what could have been accrued to the south.

The bill is a wakeup call. All hands must be on deck.
The south south representatives are the ones you see always sleeping at the hall when important matters are been discussed
Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by emmyN(m): 7:45pm On Dec 01
Objectivist04:


Come Enugu and see how well dries just few days after rain stops.

North have body of water like rivers streams lakes etc, and that is every part of north . . again it is easy to sink boreholes and get water in the north than some parts of the south.
.
What North doesn't have is ocean and I don't think animals drink ocean water.

No one is saying there is no water in the north. The south has more and that is fact!
Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by Objectivist04: 7:46pm On Dec 01
aribisala0:


Why are you arguing foolishly
I said there is more water in the south is that true or false?

So why the irrelevant talk

I don't know why people insist on being stupid
Do they have more rivers per square kilometre?

Try to have sense,. They come to south because of vegetation not water .

I don't know why you are too dull to understand simple explanation.
.
Having water underneath or in form of surface water bodies does not translate to vegetation and that is why states like Kaduna , Jigawa , Kano etc have more body of water than states like Enugu or Ebonyi but Enugu and Ebonyi have more vegetation than these northern states .

Most of the dry fishes we eat down south comes from the north and they don't harvest fish from dry land.

I am not doubting that southern states can rear cattles , my argument here is that the major problem confronting Fulani herdsmen is not that of water but grass
.
North has water, Ekiti does not have more water than Gombe .

More than 80% of river Niger lies within the north while the entire river benue is in the north and not to talk about their numerous tributaries and these are the two major rivers in Nigeria

Ability to retain water so why do they bring animals to the south to feed

If you read my post clearly I was saying we neglect the sector
If we prioritise it we can produce more cows in the south
Even now there are already thousands of Fulani cows here
If we industrialise it they cannot produce more cows in the whole North than Cross River and Akwa Ibom


Already from now they run to the South with their cows till May
Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by aribisala0(m): 7:49pm On Dec 01
Objectivist04:
Try to have sense,. They come to south because of vegetation not water .

I don't know why you are too dull to understand simple explanation.
.
Having water underneath or in form of surface water bodies does not translate to vegetation and that is why states like Kaduna , Jigawa , Kano etc have more body of water than states like Enugu or Ebonyi but Enugu and Ebonyi have more vegetation than these northern states .

Most of the dry fishes we eat down south comes from the north and they don't harvest fish from dry land.

I am not doubting that southern states can rear cattles , my argument here is that the major problem confronting Fulani herdsmen is not that of water but grass
.
North has water, Ekiti does not have more water than Gombe .

More than 80% of river Niger lies within the north while the entire river benue is in the north and not to talk about their numerous tributaries and these are the two major rivers in Nigeria

Ability to retain water so why do they bring animals to the south to feed
Most of the dry fishes we eat in the south come from the North?

That is baseless
Can you give facts and figures

Not just wake up and start talkng like an idiot

Your father is dull

How many tonnes?

What is the source

Already a large amount of cattle is produced in the south TODAY
Yes it is by herdsmen

But they are still produced in the south

Honestly you are stupid

How does vegetation grow without water?
Did I say they come here to drink water
I said

We can produce cattle more efficiently in the south because we have more water and so can produce animal feed in greater quantities for many more months because we have more rain
Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by emmyN(m): 7:50pm On Dec 01
skywalker240:

The south south representatives are the ones you see always sleeping at the hall when important matters are been discussed

Very docile set of people that care more about drinking ogogoro. cheesy

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Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by phemray(m): 7:53pm On Dec 01
Thewrath:
I came across a post from one lunatic saying that SE so against the tax reform bill..
He didn’t hear it from SE fed and state reps,
He didn’t hear it from SE governors or kings or chiefs,he didn’t hear it from ohanaeze or SE leaders!

Turns out it’s their usual insecure instincts because they can’t squarely face the north and now want other southern region to speak up in support of the bill via reverse psychology!

Since the bill provides for states to keep bulk of generated VAT or TAX,is it not time for us to separate so all states can keep everything?

They should also reform the oil industry bill so all states get to keep bulk of what they generated and let SE go and “suffer” with their highest gas deposits and crude oil reserves,since you guys claim they don’t generate much….unless of course the fed govt has been lieing with figures that it’s been using to cheat the SE.

Let SE go,it’s resources is enough it it!


Sincerely I wish SE can go, but when I saw the 40 states declared by Ekpa guys then I know they are just joking and can't stand alone. Why dragging other regions to joining the 40 states. IPOB Na only 5 states. SS are not part of Biafra Republic.

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Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by Objectivist04: 7:55pm On Dec 01
Enugu state is atypical example, full of vegetation but you can hardly see a water body .
That is why you will drive from enugu/benue boundary donwn to Oji river, a journey of more than 100km without crossing a single bridge [quote author=beejay85 post=133120319]
How can you have more grass and have less water ?
grin grin[/quote..
Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by Objectivist04: 7:58pm On Dec 01
beejay85:

How can you have more grass and have less water ?
grin grin
. Enugu state is a typical example, very lush in vegetation but no body of water even underneath water is very far from the surface.

You can drive more than 100km in enugu without crossing even a canal . That is not possible in the north.
Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by Ogakokorokoman: 8:02pm On Dec 01
Thewrath:
I came across a post from one lunatic saying that SE so against the tax reform bill..
He didn’t hear it from SE fed and state reps,
He didn’t hear it from SE governors or kings or chiefs,he didn’t hear it from ohanaeze or SE leaders!

Turns out it’s their usual insecure instincts because they can’t squarely face the north and now want other southern region to speak up in support of the bill via reverse psychology!

Since the bill provides for states to keep bulk of generated VAT or TAX,is it not time for us to separate so all states can keep everything?

They should also reform the oil industry bill so all states get to keep bulk of what they generated and let SE go and “suffer” with their highest gas deposits and crude oil reserves,since you guys claim they don’t generate much….unless of course the fed govt has been lieing with figures that it’s been using to cheat the SE.

Let SE go,it’s resources is enough it it!
judging by your logic, since Nigerians have not heard anything about secession of south east from Nigeria from any state or federal legislator, govs or ohaneze that means we should not take the agitation serious?

Anyways, peace and one love to us all, we are better off as one great nation.
Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by aribisala0(m): 8:03pm On Dec 01
Objectivist04:
Enugu state is atypical example, full of vegetation but you can hardly see a water body .
That is why you will drive from enugu/benue boundary donwn to Oji river, a journey of more than 100km without crossing a single bridge
when agriculture is industrial
Those with more rainfall can use technology to enhance the use of water
The reason that might not be happening in Enugu is a knowledge deficit and also misplaced priority

Your claim about Gombe and Ekiti is simply rubbish

Gombe state has the. LOWEST RAINFALL

LOWEST


IN NIGERIA

Just shut up
Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by Objectivist04: 8:03pm On Dec 01
emmyN:


No one is saying there is no water in the north. The south has more and that is fact!

South will have more if Atlantic ocean is included .

Oga 80% of River Niger and the entire River Benue which are the two major rivers in Nigeria lies in the north with their tributaries.

South is more compact and that is why it appears as if it has more water body .

I just gave you an example of Enugu state that doesn't have a single water body .
Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by darediamond(m): 8:11pm On Dec 01
JAWBONE:
grin grin
The only thing the Chicago Accountant knows is tax and propaganda

He did it in Lagos where he used every power within his means to squeeze every penny out of Lagosians.

That is why every bus stop you stop in Lagos, you must hear Owomida. They were even contemplating taxing Television, Radio and pumping machines at a point in time in Lagos.

Used stolen money to buy political power, rig elections, enter office and tax the shit out of even the poor masses, play tribal politics to divide the masses, hire hungry political jobbers and social media errand boys to do propaganda for you, then corner the wealth of the state into your private account.

The way of the Iragbiji "master strategist"
An incompetent, corrupt and empty politician
Politician or Polithiefcian?
Tinubu himself is a Political Jobber.
Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by Thewrath(m): 8:12pm On Dec 01
Ogakokorokoman:
judging by your logic, since Nigerians have not heard anything about secession of south east from Nigeria from any state or federal legislator, govs or ohaneze that means we should not take the agitation serious?

Anyways, peace and one love to us all, we are better off as one great nation.

You may not hear from them because Nigeria has termed any attempt treason!
Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by Thewrath(m): 8:15pm On Dec 01
phemray:



Sincerely I wish SE can go, but when I saw the 40 states declared by Ekpa guys then I know they are just joking and can't stand alone. Why dragging other regions to joining the 40 states. IPOB Na only 5 states. SS are not part of Biafra Republic.
Even the 5 states,trust me,Nigeria is not ready to let SE go,I careless weather SS joins or not,SE has oil and gas and every other man power to sustain itself,there are many countries that SE is bigger than in landmass and population.

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Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by emmyN(m): 8:18pm On Dec 01
Objectivist04:


South will have more if Atlantic ocean is included .

Oga 80% of River Niger and the entire River Benue which are the two major rivers in Nigeria lies in the north with their tributaries.

South is more compact and that is why it appears as if it has more water body .

I just gave you an example of Enugu state that doesn't have a single water body .

Dude, your statement is not backed by fact. There are more water bodies in the south, more rivers, wetlands and lakes. The north has no comparison in this. So it's either you don't have all the information or you're being deliberately mischievous.

From your education, you could do some simple internet search. You're welcome!
Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by Objectivist04: 8:22pm On Dec 01
aribisala0:

Most of the dry fishes we eat in the south come from the North?

That is baseless
Can you give facts and figures

Not just wake up and start talkng like an idiot

Your father is dull

How many tonnes?

What is the source

Already a large amount of cattle is produced in the south TODAY
Yes it is by herdsmen

But they are still produced in the south

Honestly you are stupid

How does vegetation grow without water?
Did I say they come here to drink water
I said

We can produce cattle more efficiently in the south because we have more water and so can produce animal feed in greater quantities for many more months because we have more rain

Is like you inherited dullness from your father.

Why are you trying to change the crust of this to and fro argument.

You said that that herdsmen come to south because of grass and water but I am trying to tell you that they come because of grass not water because they have enough water up north but your dull brain can still not comprehend.

North has more fresh water than the south and that is a fact.

Apart from lagos and Ondo , which other state in south west have a big river ? Can you compare osun river with river Kaduna ? Which river in Oyo can you compare with river Hadejia ?

In south east only anambra has large water body , south south is the only region that have significant water body in all the states except Edo

I have lived in taraba state and I know about river ibi, river manya and river donga which ferries big badges .

Yes most of the fish consumed in the south comes from the north, Bama in Bornu state has the biggest fish market in Nigeria until Boko Haram menance with up to 10 trucks loading fish on daily basis and distributing to different parts of the country.

If you find it difficult to comprehend me , ask someone to explain for you

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Re: Tax Reform Bills Must Not Benefit Few States, Penalise Others –Atiku by emmyN(m): 8:23pm On Dec 01
Objectivist04:


South will have more if Atlantic ocean is included .


This statement here is laughable. Is the Atlantic Ocean owned by any single country? How are you attributing it to the south? Guy! cheesy

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