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Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by Kobojunkie: 3:38pm On Dec 02 |
Aemmyjah:Ah! I see! So when speaking of morality, and claiming people supposedly loved God and obey commandments and all that jazz... It is Ok to ignore the killing, and the mamy corrupt practices carried out by many of the same during the same period 😩😩😩😩😩 |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by Kobojunkie: 3:39pm On Dec 02 |
obailala:Your reason to Believe him would be? |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by Ayatullah(m): 3:52pm On Dec 02 |
Quite a proof that their evangelism is a failure if those ungrateful elements and God's enemies want inclusive greeting messages for transgenders and gays. The church as a body led by the Pope is actually a big part of the problem, acting as the devil's advocate, promoting gay culture So, they deserve what they got.
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Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by obailala(m): 3:54pm On Dec 02 |
Kobojunkie:Huh?! Using an illogical question to evade the simple question I asked you... My reason for believing it is because he said it, and I dont have any sensible reason to doubt it. If a random stranger I meet in a bus tells me his wife recently put to bed, why should I start doubting him for saying something which is a very common and natural phenomenon? What's the logic or sense in going about doubting everything I hear, including irrelevant things? If you have a reason to doubt the occurrence of a very simple and common natural phenomenon, then the onus is on you to explain to us why you believe it is false. |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by flyinnizam(m): 4:12pm On Dec 02 |
Cmanforall:maybe ur calling na lawyer or investigative policeman |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by maziude: 4:12pm On Dec 02 |
Agugbadin: Keep lying to yourself. |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by dhesire(m): 4:20pm On Dec 02 |
Kobojunkie: I am deeply sorry for the unlucky ones that look up to you! You mean you cannot pass your message without resulting to insults and abuses? Call pastor Adeboye anything you like, idc. It's your choice, your life. I hold the revered man in high esteem. Give the women I referenced the opportunity abroad, should would have ordered the arrest and prosecution of the school mgt the same way the church member did the pastor who 'just', 'simply' addressed the congregation as ladies and gentlemen men but for the Nigerian factor hence, she took laws into her hands. |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by trium: 4:23pm On Dec 02 |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by KaptainAfrika: 4:39pm On Dec 02 |
Fresh from the man that had tea with God and forgot to ask Him when Nigeria go better. |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by Aemmyjah(m): 4:52pm On Dec 02 |
Kobojunkie: Was it killing he ignored that you were condemning him for? From olden days to Babangida to Biafra and killings If you like, shift the goalposts to the end of the sea I don't believe him that anyone can be arrested for just a greeting that does not cover everyone just as I would not expect a normal man to arrest someone that was using a gay term to generalize everyone in a hall. You were acting like an extremist lgbt advocate. You well know he was correct that the attitude of people in the olden days were more or less shocking than now especially in the aspect of sex and morality. I can relate with him cos for most friends in other lands, when they define marriage as a union between a man and a woman to become husband and wife, some teachers say the definition is wrong. I don't agree or acknowledge Adeboye as a Man of God or prophet as he claims. Many of what he's said and done are not even true but I grew up in Yorubaland, I'm not a coward but I can't address him with such demeaning words or text just as I would not say to his face if i had the chance to meet him. Social media gives weak people like you the chance to behave like paper tigers... |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by Kobojunkie: 4:54pm On Dec 02 |
dhesire:You hold a man who built a career conning you all out of your money and lying to you every chance he gets to high esteem? ***Shudde rs*** 😩😩😩😩😩 2. Order the arrest of which person in which abroad? In the same abroad where even your lying pastor knows he has to queue like every other person out there if he wants to buy something or even pee? The same abroad where your lying pastors become no bigger than ordinary people when they are out on the streets away from their sycophantic worshippers? 😩😩😩😩😩 The sad reality is many of you have had your minds bastardized by these scammers-in-the-lords you revere that you cannot be expected to logically understand why what you say makes no sense given the actual laws in this abroad you speak of. 😩😩😩😩😩😩 |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by ultraviolet27(f): 4:58pm On Dec 02 |
optimusprime2: |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by Guestmale: 4:58pm On Dec 02 |
If God punished sodom and gomorrah, those practicing or supporting LGBTQ will never escape God's punishment except they repent. |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by Kobojunkie: 4:59pm On Dec 02 |
Aemmyjah:Please pick up and take your ramblings far the f--k away from me! 😩😩😩😩😩 This is the same scammer who started scamming people as far back as the same 70s wey you mention oo? Where were his own moral compass during the time you mentioned? Person dey lie but you come dey write me epistle why this lie shouldn't be considered a lie. Nonsense! |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by descarado: 5:02pm On Dec 02 |
uglodoh:That's part of the package. You must learn how to fabricate stories. Unless you want your church to die |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by Kobojunkie: 5:06pm On Dec 02 |
obailala:So If I formulate a lie, you will believe it too using your own explanation there? 2..I would accept his tale as just that. If he asked me for money or anything based on the tale, because I do not have proof and so do not believe his tale, I would not give him any. 3. The reason is simply and before everyone who has a brain. In the west, there exists what is called FREEDOM OF SPEECH which gives everyone the right speak their mind and say what they want to. Freedom of speech allows even individuals who use racial slurs against others to walk away free without fear of criminal prosecution of any kind. So, your Adeboye lied to you when he claimed someone was arrested for exercising his right to Freedom of speech. |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by ultraviolet27(f): 5:07pm On Dec 02 |
Aemmyjah: The Kobo junkie is one mentally deranged cowardly nitwits a Man using a female moniker on this forum no wonder he is riled up about the story gay misfit twerp!! I don't even agree with Adeboye and all His teachings but insulting a Man old enough to be your Grandpa even without getting acquiescence of the story is wrong. see the Idiots arguing that no where you can be arrested for mislabeling of gender?? Something you can google and find out people have been arrested in time past in the U.S the way I hate this fool ehnn if he is beside me I will plank him with a brain resetting 2 by 2 |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by Kobojunkie: 5:27pm On Dec 02 |
Guestmale:Are you people intentionally daft or what? That same God has not punished or sent his wrath down on any people in over 1 thousand 900 years as He said would happen. Your very Nigeria serves as proof of this. Yet, against that God of Israel's very own proclamation, you want us to believe He will screw up His own eternal Word just to appease your bloody hatred of those who are different from you? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Let me tell you something. The likelihood of you or me dying from cancer or any other sickness or even just like that is all but guaranteed. However, your wish there will never happen— it is impossible! So said the God of Israel. Look at your Nigeria for all the evidence you need to know this.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by Forkthiefnubu: 5:34pm On Dec 02 |
This fake pastor , he is lying , u cud be sued but not arrested right away , this man is not afraid of God and thinks the ministry is a scam. |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by Kobojunkie: 5:38pm On Dec 02 |
Forkthiefnubu:If the ministry of the man at the top of the pyramid is a scam, doesn't that then mean that the ministry of all those beneath/below or running under him is equally a scam? And doesn't that equally mean that all those pastors under him are also not afraid of this God you speak of? 🤔 Name one GO/Priest/Bishop/GB/Pope/Imam/Prophet/Apostle/etc., — man at the top of ministry— who is not running a scam? 🤔 |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by Cmanforall: 5:42pm On Dec 02 |
flyinnizam: You could be a prophet. People have told me this in real life |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by Forkthiefnubu: 5:47pm On Dec 02 |
Kobojunkie:You looking for who to implicate, I did not say anything but none of them will see this heaven lol |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by Kobojunkie: 5:50pm On Dec 02 |
Forkthiefnubu:🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by obailala(m): 6:12pm On Dec 02 |
Kobojunkie:If there's no logical reason to doubt a story, what's the essence of doubting it, especially when it doesn't even affect me in anyway? Is it just trying to be overly smart or perhaps a carried over trauma/paranoia? If a colleague at work tells me he drank a cup of tea before leaving his house, why should I start doubting him? Does that even make sense? Conversely, if the colleague tells me he drank 2 litres of vodka before driving to work, then I have a genuine reason to doubt his tale! Comprende? Modified: Lol... Now I actually see where your problem stems from; you read my original comment just for the purpose of responding without waiting to comprehend it first. Kindly re-read my original comment below, but this time slowly and with an open mind. Perhaps you will understand my point. obailala:I didnt doubt that a pastor was arrested (that's a nonrmal phenomenon), but I obviously questioned the 'real' reason why! |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by Kobojunkie: 6:19pm On Dec 02 |
obailala:1. The only logical reason to believe any story is if you have proof or evidence to back up the story...yes, stories require proof... otherwise it is just that, a story not worth believing! If you have ever studied logic, you would know this. Adeboye used to be a mathematician, according to his claim, and so should be aware of this. You do not believe unless you have proof... evidence to back up the story or claim. Otherwise, it is best to doubt it all and take it at face value! 2. His story is just that, his story and nothing more! However, when you reach for belief you need evidence of his claim that he tea, and not vodka or coffee. Again, the only rational reason to believe a story is if you have evidence that proves the credibility of the claim made. Otherwise, you have nothing more than a story and should treat it as such. 3. I didn't do any such you accuse me of. As soon as I read this article, I went straight to Google and even used the ChatGPT AI to investigate if there has indeed been any arrest in any of the Western countries that fit the pattern put forward by this man and the result came back zero. Yes, ChatGPT or Google AI explained that an arrest of such kind would be a violation of Freedom of Speech which is upheld even at the UN level where all of those Western countries are signatories. Adeboye claimed a pastor was arrested simply because he addressed an audience as ladies and gentlemen. That claim is a lie and means Adeboye is a liar! 😐😐😐😐 |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by obailala(m): 6:21pm On Dec 02 |
Kobojunkie:You're still jumping to type a response without bothering to read and comprehend. I rest my case with you! When you feel ready to comprehend, go back and read my first and the last comment! |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by optimusprime2(m): 6:24pm On Dec 02 |
maziude: Oga that was my point, I was trying to emphasise that Misgendering is seen as harassment... if you read my first post you would see that my stance was basically about Misgendering. |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by Kobojunkie: 6:26pm On Dec 02 |
obailala:This again is your original claim, right? 🤔 obailala:The story instead says a pastor was arrested for wrongly addressing the audience. Pretending the reason for the arrest is to be ignored is disingenuous. Then, you claimed that you had no reason to doubt the story of the arrest, and I asked you what reason you had to believe the story in the first place given that proof is expected for one to claim belief. |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by optimusprime2(m): 6:29pm On Dec 02 |
Kobojunkie: I am glad you have underpinned my point. If you read my first reply you would get where I was coming from. The bolded was my point... I was emphasising the fact that Misgendering is considered as harassment. |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by Kobojunkie: 6:35pm On Dec 02 |
optimusprime2:Read the link you referenced. 🤔 Misgendering can be considered a form of unlawful harassment in certain circumstances.Misgendering is not sexual harassment but can promote it if care is not taken. Sexual harassment is a criminal offense. Misgendering is not a criminal offense that one would be arrested for it. Rather it constitutes a civil offense that one can sue for. |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by obailala(m): 6:47pm On Dec 02 |
Kobojunkie:Go back and re-read my first response, gosh! is that too hard? If a person tells me they drank tea in the morning, I don't know about you, but I think it'll be silly of me to start doubting and searching for proof that they really drank a cup of tea (that would be utter joblessness). But on the other hand, if someone tells me they consumed 2 litres of vodka before driving to work, then there's a genuine reason for me to question the veracity of their story. Now to the matter at had, the report claims a pastor was arrested for saying "Ladies and Gentlemen!" In my original comment, I clearly stated there's nothing unbelievable about a pastor being arrested in the UK; however, I doubted the real reason for his arrest was because he said "Ladies and Gentlemen".... @Kobojunkie, what so difficult to understand in what I've just explained? |
Re: RCCG Pastor Arrested Abroad For Greeting ‘ladies And Gentlemen’ — Adeboye by Kobojunkie: 6:54pm On Dec 02 |
obailala:Again, Adeboye is reported to have claimed, with his mouth, that his employee was arrested on grounds that he referred to the audience saying, "Ladies and Gentlemen..." How can you claim an arrest took place but conveniently not believe the reason given for the particular arrest? 🤔 If the reason for the arrest makes no sense to even you then it should follow that that arrest never took place because an arrest can only be made if a valid reason for arrest presents itself. Since, according to you, the reason given for the arrest isn't valid then it should follow that such an arrest never did take place... at least that is how it works in the West, unlike Nigeria where you can even be arrested for farting. 2. I do understand what you are attempting to do here but I am trying to let you know it does not make sense to do that! |
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