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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Meerahbel: 6:00pm On Dec 17, 2024
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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Meerahbel: 6:00pm On Dec 17, 2024
Do you think 🤔 400k annual rent is too much on a 250k salary?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Itsrm(m): 6:35pm On Dec 17, 2024
Meerahbel:
Do you think 🤔 400k annual rent is too much on a 250k salary?

No. Especially if it means you're able to spend less on transportation and have spare time for personal development before and after work.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Yungmil: 7:15am On Dec 18, 2024
Itsrm:


No. Especially if it means you're able to spend less on transportation and have spare time for personal development before and after work.


Nice one. Some people spend less on house rent living in local areas, but stay far from their work place there by spending more on transport. Why not get close to your work place and pay more on rent with comfort so you can pay less on transport.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Yungmil: 11:05am On Dec 18, 2024
Hunger dey
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Risingcash94: 11:41am On Dec 18, 2024
Season's greetings investors. Pls has anyone tried investing in Treasury bills with GTB lately.(Secondary market). They told me they are on hold for now. Why do you think that is. Thanks
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Foodempire: 2:47pm On Dec 18, 2024
TotoNaRubber:
I am here to encourage the new ones to shine their eyes.
Truth be told, the fact that you made an investment mistake doesn't make defending the same mistake right.

On the otherhand if you only invested using local currency, you are not really affected. There are bonds that matured 2 days ago but the cbn hasn't said a thing. The usual now is to keep investors funds for a month upon maturity and blame it on technical glitch. Someone/People are benefiting from these and the masses are the pigeons.


A month? On what bond did the delay occurred? The maximum days I've experienced is 3/5 days
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Foodempire: 2:59pm On Dec 18, 2024
TotoNaRubber:

I just got off the phone with someone who works in the DMO (Debt management office). He said the Fédéral government is struggling to pay workers and local debt may be delayed or a default is possible.

So brace yourselves for the worst.



Oh I c. You are a prophet of doom. Your moniker says something about your personality!

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Educationalserv: 3:31pm On Dec 18, 2024
TotoNaRubber:

I just got off the phone with someone who works in the DMO (Debt management office). He said the Fédéral government is struggling to pay workers and local debt may be delayed or a default is possible.

So brace yourselves for the worst.


no be ONLY off phone na got on the microphone with Edun

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by sammily(m): 3:48pm On Dec 18, 2024
Dangote Cement PLC Series 17 & 18 Commercial Paper Offer

Minimum of 5m, Is this a good investment?

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by sirrotex: 4:18pm On Dec 18, 2024
Any news on when Sukuk this year will be?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Risingcash94: 4:35pm On Dec 18, 2024
Is this commercial paper interest paid upfront as well?



sammily:
Dangote Cement PLC Series 17 & 18 Commercial Paper Offer

Minimum of 5m, Is this a good investment?

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Risingcash94: 4:37pm On Dec 18, 2024
Is this commercial paper interest paid upfront as well? How about reinvestment of interest?



sammily:
Dangote Cement PLC Series 17 & 18 Commercial Paper Offer

Minimum of 5m, Is this a good investment?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 6:16pm On Dec 18, 2024
Yes. That's why it states discount rate & implied yield wink
Risingcash94:
Is this commercial paper interest paid upfront as well?

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Risingcash94: 6:52pm On Dec 18, 2024
Thanks 🙏
How about reinvestment of interest. Any idea?



skydiver01:
Yes. That's why it states discount rate & implied yield wink
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by mymadam(m): 8:31pm On Dec 18, 2024
Educationalserv:
no be ONLY off phone na got on the microphone with Edun
The March 2025 FGN Savings Bond interest dropped on 17th December 2024. Just 24 hours later than expected.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by sammily(m): 12:03am On Dec 19, 2024
Risingcash94:
Thanks 🙏
How about reinvestment of interest. Any idea?

I doubt you can reinvest the interest.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DAramis: 5:56am On Dec 19, 2024
sirrotex:
Any news on when Sukuk this year will be?
Bro, on this, is it done yearly?
I am also interested on this. Do let me know online when you get the information and details about it.

Need to try and subscribe for it.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Klare(f): 9:35am On Dec 19, 2024
sammily:
Dangote Cement PLC Series 17 & 18 Commercial Paper Offer

Minimum of 5m, Is this a good investment?


This is a brilliant investment, I will say.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by sirrotex: 10:29am On Dec 19, 2024
It's usually done yearly usually in December. The last was done in October last year
DAramis:

Bro, on this, is it done yearly?
I am also interested on this. Do let me know online when you get the information and details about it.

Need to try and subscribe for it.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DAramis: 1:26pm On Dec 19, 2024
sirrotex:
It's usually done yearly usually in December. The last was done in October last year
Ohh , okay.

I guess it would be next year then since no information is forthcoming about it so far.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by unite4real: 6:40pm On Dec 19, 2024
sirrotex:
It's usually done yearly usually in December. The last was done in October last year

First issue was in 2017. There was none in 2019.

Out of the 6 issues so far, 3 were in December while the other 3 were in June, September and October.

Last year 2023 issue was in October actually
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by sirrotex: 7:52am On Dec 20, 2024
Let's keep fingers crossed then
DAramis:

Ohh , okay.

I guess it would be next year then since no information is forthcoming about it so far.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmasoft(m): 2:53pm On Dec 20, 2024
Norrenberger Dollar Fund

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wisely so that you have gift that keeps giving.

Invest in the Norrenberger Dollar fund at 10.03%. You have opportunity to reinvest (compound) your interest.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by manwomanok: 11:44pm On Dec 21, 2024
Security -- 19.89% May 2033
Bid Price -- 94.94
Offer price - 98.64
Bid yield - -21.18
Offer yield -- 20.21

my good people of this house, kindly help me with your wealth of experience to calculate roughly interest to pay base on this FGN Bond information above. what is clean price plus accrued interest.

Note: amount plan to invest is N20m

Thank you

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by manwomanok: 12:32pm On Dec 22, 2024
manwomanok:

Security -- 19.89% May 2033
Bid Price -- 94.94
Offer price - 98.64
Bid yield - -21.18
Offer yield -- 20.21

my good people of this house, kindly help me with your wealth of experience to calculate roughly interest to pay base on this FGN Bond information above. what is clean price plus accrued interest.

Note: amount plan to invest is N20m

Thank you

@ skydiver01 , Akerewe ,freeman67, emmasoft, ositadima1 and other boss in the house. help pls
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Emzedz: 12:48pm On Dec 22, 2024
manwomanok:

Security -- 19.89% May 2033
Bid Price -- 94.94
Offer price - 98.64
Bid yield - -21.18
Offer yield -- 20.21

my good people of this house, kindly help me with your wealth of experience to calculate roughly interest to pay base on this FGN Bond information above. what is clean price plus accrued interest.

Note: amount plan to invest is N20m

Thank you
Heiii 2033.. God Abeg oo
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 1:33pm On Dec 22, 2024
manwomanok:

Security -- 19.89% May 2033
Bid Price -- 94.94
Offer price - 98.64
Bid yield - -21.18
Offer yield -- 20.21

my good people of this house, kindly help me with your wealth of experience to calculate roughly interest to pay base on this FGN Bond information above. what is clean price plus accrued interest.

Note: amount plan to invest is N20m

Thank you


It's roughly about 2M - N2.1M every 6 months (roughly 4M - 4.200) yearly till it matures. The main determinant actually is the settlement price which you will know only after you have subscribed.

Clean price is the bonds' actual price without an accrued interest while the dirty price is the price of the bond with accrued interest. If you subscribe immediately after they just paid interest, you are likely buying at a clean price but if you subscribe after a while after or close to when they are about to pay interest, the interest will be calculated into your investment because you are going to collect that interest for that half year even though you haven't held the investment from when it started accruing. So that's the dirty price.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by manwomanok: 2:30pm On Dec 22, 2024
freeman67:



It's roughly about 2M - N2.1M every 6 months (roughly 4M - 4.200) yearly till it matures. The main determinant actually is the settlement price which you will know only after you have subscribed.

Clean price is the bonds' actual price without an accrued interest while the dirty price is the price of the bond with accrued interest. If you subscribe immediately after they just paid interest, you are likely buying at a clean price but if you subscribe after a while after or close to when they are about to pay interest, the interest will be calculated into your investment because you are going to collect that interest for that half year even though you haven't held the investment from when it started accruing. So that's the dirty price.

Thank you brother, I have a clear idea of what I should be expecting every 6 month. what I am asking clarity for is the rough idea of accrued interest I will pay on top of my initial N20m when subscribe since it is secondary market Bond.

also for education purpose, would like to understand below information that come with the bond

Bid Price -- 94.94
Offer price - 98.64
Bid yield - -21.18
Offer yield -- 20.21
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ositadima1(m): 3:13pm On Dec 22, 2024
manwomanok:


@ skydiver01 , Akerewe ,freeman67, emmasoft, ositadima1 and other boss in the house. help pls

Everything you need is right here. First, this is a secondary market offering, which explains the presence of bid-ask quotes. The offer price of 98.64 means you are buying the bond at a slight discount since it was originally issued at 100.

The bond's initial rate was 19.88%, but because you are purchasing it at a discount, your effective rate increases to 20.21%. With an investment of 20 million, this bond should earn you 4,042,000 annually. If the coupon is paid semi-annually, you'll receive half of this amount in November and the other half in May each year until 2033.

In 2033, assuming you hold the bond to maturity, you will receive your 20 million principal plus an additional 272,000 (the government will pay the face value, not the discounted purchase price).

One more thing to keep in mind: depending on when you bought the bond, you may need to pay accrued interest to the current holder. For example, if you purchase the bond in April, you can't expect to receive the full coupon payment; you'll need to cover the interest accrued up to that point. This distinction is tied to the concepts of the clean price (price without accrued interest) and the dirty price (price including accrued interest).

And that’s a wrap!

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by manwomanok: 4:25pm On Dec 22, 2024
ositadima1:


Everything you need is right here. First, this is a secondary market offering, which explains the presence of bid-ask quotes. The offer price of 98.64 means you are buying the bond at a slight discount since it was originally issued at 100.

The bond's initial rate was 19.88%, but because you are purchasing it at a discount, your effective rate increases to 20.21%. With an investment of 20 million, this bond should earn you 4,042,000 annually. If the coupon is paid semi-annually, you'll receive half of this amount in November and the other half in May each year until 2033.

In 2033, assuming you hold the bond to maturity, you will receive your 20 million principal plus an additional 272,000 (the government will pay the face value, not the discounted purchase price).

One more thing to keep in mind: depending on when you bought the bond, you may need to pay accrued interest to the current holder. For example, if you purchase the bond in April, you can't expect to receive the full coupon payment; you'll need to cover the interest accrued up to that point. This distinction is tied to the concepts of the clean price (price without accrued interest) and the dirty price (price including accrued interest).

And that’s a wrap!


Good, That exactly layman explanation I wanted. Thank you sir

it mean if I buy tomorrow I will pay accrued interest of Nov. and Dec, plus broker's charges? also can you say something about the Bid price 94.98 and Bid yield 21.18.

Thank you once more
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Akerewe(m): 4:40pm On Dec 22, 2024
ositadima1:


Everything you need is right here. First, this is a secondary market offering, which explains the presence of bid-ask quotes. The offer price of 98.64 means you are buying the bond at a slight discount since it was originally issued at 100.

The bond's initial rate was 19.88%, but because you are purchasing it at a discount, your effective rate increases to 20.21%. With an investment of 20 million, this bond should earn you 4,042,000 annually. If the coupon is paid semi-annually, you'll receive half of this amount in November and the other half in May each year until 2033.

In 2033, assuming you hold the bond to maturity, you will receive your 20 million principal plus an additional 272,000 (the government will pay the face value, not the discounted purchase price).

One more thing to keep in mind: depending on when you bought the bond, you may need to pay accrued interest to the current holder. For example, if you purchase the bond in April, you can't expect to receive the full coupon payment; you'll need to cover the interest accrued up to that point. This distinction is tied to the concepts of the clean price (price without accrued interest) and the dirty price (price including accrued interest).

And that’s a wrap!




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