Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by MightySparrow: 1:56am On Dec 23, 2024 |
However, the 'inspired word clearly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired statementsa and teachings of demons,
The attempt to make Jehovah's Witnesses present to their congregants a text to promote their bias in the interpretation from the original texts, some obvious mispresentation and translation is easily observed. One of such is the passage of the Bible above Bearing in mind that Paul was writing to Timothy, to avoid that the Spirit was the one speaking, being a force, that cannot talk, or having consciousness, it has to be replaced with the ' inspired word'. The inspirer was removed. The rendering makes the meaning watered down. Which inspired word was Paul referring to? Was Paul quoting some texts or was it his personal revelation by the spirit he was communicating to Timothy? 1 Like |
Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:59am On Dec 23, 2024 |
The Author of the Bible purposefully inspired the writers to pen down words that even the writers can't comprehend: Now as for me, I heard, but I could not understand; so I said: “O my lord, what will be the outcome of these things?” Daniel 12:8So God only instructed them to pen down the words and conceal it because it's meant for His true worshipers in the end time: Then he said: “Go, Daniel, because the words are to be kept secret and sealed up until the time of the end. Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined. And the wicked ones will act wickedly, and none of the wicked will understand; but those having insight will understand." Daniel 12:9-10So it's not be understood by all kinds of people only faithful ones {2Thessalonians 3:2} but how can faithful people identify their kind in the end time? God answered: "At that time those who fear Jehovah spoke with one another, each one with his companion, and Jehovah kept paying attention and listening. And a book of remembrance was written before him for those fearing Jehovah and for those meditating on his name" Malachi 3:16Jehovah said in this way they will identify their kind among humankind: And you will again see the distinction between a righteous person and a wicked person, between one serving God and one not serving him. Malachi 3:18But what will they be doing after identifying themselves? God answered again: They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore. Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3After identifying themselves they will us God's word as yardstick to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop the making, buying, selling and using weapons against their neighbors and vow never to raise weapons against their neighbors again! This is the reason why God gave mankind that book called Bible not for each individual to say: "I understand God's word because Holy Spirit interpreted it for me"But when Satan comes with his schemes like politics and racism to make you hate your neighbour you trash your Bible and join others in fighting and killings your neighbours including your so called fellow believers! Revelations 6:3-4 That's why Jesus said only those doing the will of God will be saved not those calling him "Lord Lord" Matthew 7:21-23 So if you don't know the purpose of God's word you will choose whatever interpretation that pleases you but such will never help you to RECOGNIZE the gathering of Holy Ones! Luke 17:37 The post is not meant for you rather it's meant for other followers who may wish to know why Ezra need to add meaning to the reading of God's word! Ezʹra opened the book in the sight of all the people, for he was above all the people. As he opened it, all the people stood up. Then Ezʹra praised Jehovah the true God, the great One, at which all the people answered, “Amen! Amen!” and lifted up their hands. They then bowed low and prostrated themselves to Jehovah with their faces to the ground. And Jeshʹu·a, Baʹni, She·re·biʹah, Jaʹmin, Akʹkub, Shabʹbe·thai, Ho·diʹah, Ma·a·seiʹah, Ke·liʹta, Az·a·riʹah, Joʹza·bad, Haʹnan, and Pe·laʹiah, who were Levites, were explaining the Law to the people, while the people remained standing. And they continued reading aloud from the book, from the Law of the true God, clearly explaining it and putting meaning into it; so they helped the people to understand what was being read. Nehemiah 8:5-8This is why only Jehovah's Witnesses can act in line with God's will by doing all what the above prophecies listed as if they own the Bible whereas all other religions can't confidently point to the FINE WORKS their faith is producing in line with God's word!  |
Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by MightySparrow: 7:00am On Dec 23, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: The Author of the Bible purposefully inspired the writers to pen down words that even the writers can't comprehend:
Now as for me, I heard, but I could not understand; so I said: “O my lord, what will be the outcome of these things?” Daniel 12:8
So God only instructed them to pen down the words and conceal it because it's meant for His true worshipers in the end time:
Then he said: “Go, Daniel, because the words are to be kept secret and sealed up until the time of the end. Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined. And the wicked ones will act wickedly, and none of the wicked will understand; but those having insight will understand." Daniel 12:9-10
So it's not be understood by all kinds of people only faithful ones {2Thessalonians 3:2} but how can faithful people identify their kind in the end time?
God answered:
"At that time those who fear Jehovah spoke with one another, each one with his companion, and Jehovah kept paying attention and listening. And a book of remembrance was written before him for those fearing Jehovah and for those meditating on his name" Malachi 3:16
Jehovah said in this way they will identify their kind among humankind:
And you will again see the distinction between a righteous person and a wicked person, between one serving God and one not serving him. Malachi 3:18
But what will they be doing after identifying themselves?
God answered again:
They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore. Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3
After identifying themselves they will us God's word as yardstick to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop the making, buying, selling and using weapons against their neighbors and vow never to raise weapons against their neighbors again!
This is the reason why God gave mankind that book called Bible not for each individual to say:
"I understand God's word because Holy Spirit interpreted it for me"
But when Satan comes with his schemes like politics and racism to make you hate your neighbour you trash your Bible and join others in fighting and killings your neighbours including your so called fellow believers! Revelations 6:3-4
That's why Jesus said only those doing the will of God will be saved not those calling him "Lord Lord" Matthew 7:21-23
So if you don't know the purpose of God's word you will choose whatever interpretation that pleases you but such will never help you to RECOGNIZE the gathering of Holy Ones! Luke 17:37
The post is not meant for you rather it's meant for other followers who may wish to know why Ezra need to add meaning to the reading of God's word!
Ezʹra opened the book in the sight of all the people, for he was above all the people. As he opened it, all the people stood up. Then Ezʹra praised Jehovah the true God, the great One, at which all the people answered, “Amen! Amen!” and lifted up their hands. They then bowed low and prostrated themselves to Jehovah with their faces to the ground. And Jeshʹu·a, Baʹni, She·re·biʹah, Jaʹmin, Akʹkub, Shabʹbe·thai, Ho·diʹah, Ma·a·seiʹah, Ke·liʹta, Az·a·riʹah, Joʹza·bad, Haʹnan, and Pe·laʹiah, who were Levites, were explaining the Law to the people, while the people remained standing. And they continued reading aloud from the book, from the Law of the true God, clearly explaining it and putting meaning into it; so they helped the people to understand what was being read. Nehemiah 8:5-8
This is why only Jehovah's Witnesses can act in line with God's will by doing all what the above prophecies listed as if they own the Bible whereas all other religions can't confidently point to the FINE WORKS their faith is producing in line with God's word! 
The crux of the matter is the removal of the words, ' the spirit says expressly'. Saying expressly' and ' inspired word.' Mind you, Paul was writing to Timothy directly and used exact words. The question is. 1.Did the 'spirit' say.... Inspire and saying are they the same? 2 Likes
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Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:01pm On Dec 23, 2024 |
MightySparrow:
The crux of the matter is the removal of the words, ' the spirit says expressly'. Saying expressly' and ' inspired word.' Mind you, Paul was writing to Timothy directly and used exact words. The question is. 1.Did the 'spirit' say.... Inspire and saying are they the same? Ezra and the Levites putting meaning to the laws written by Moses weren't the inspired writers so how do you think those listening to them will feel when the exact words that Moses wrote was not the same as what Ezra and the Levites used when putting meaning to the inspired writings? And they continued reading aloud from the book, from the Law of the true God, clearly explaining it and putting meaning into it; so they helped the people to understand what was being read. Nehemiah 8:5-8The GOVERNING BODY of Jehovah's Witnesses has put meaning into what we found written in the Bible so whether you approve their WORK or not what matters to someone like me is the saying of Jesus who said: “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?" Matthew 24:45Just like Ezra and the Levites did this BODY of anointed men have done their own job and it's making the millions following them zealous in doing the work Jesus assigned to all his disciples {Matthew 28:19-20} and they are fulfilling what God promised in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and repeated @ Micah 4:1-3 There is no other religion performing better than this group in doing God's will. So going by what apostle Paul himself wrote in the Bible book of Galatians 5:22-23 On the other hand, the fruitage of the spirit is LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, KINDNESS, GOODNESS, FAITH, MILDNESS, SELF-CONTROL.Against such things there is no law.Jehovah's Witnesses globally has turned millions of youths into something that we can be proud of so that the FRUIT expected of true believers are clearly noticed among them so there is no law against this group their translation is achieving what is expected among true believers! Matthew 7:16-18 |
Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by achorladey: 7:39pm On Dec 23, 2024 |
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Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by achorladey: 7:42pm On Dec 23, 2024 |
MightySparrow: However, the 'inspired word clearly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired statementsa and teachings of demons,
The attempt to make Jehovah's Witnesses present to their congregants a text to promote their bias in the interpretation from the original texts, some obvious mispresentation and translation is easily observed. One of such is the passage of the Bible above Bearing in mind that Paul was writing to Timothy, to avoid that the Spirit was the one speaking, being a force, that cannot talk, or having consciousness, it has to be replaced with the ' inspired word'. The inspirer was removed. The rendering makes the meaning watered down. Which inspired word was Paul referring to? Was Paul quoting some texts or was it his personal revelation by the spirit he was communicating to Timothy?
Their own Kingdom Interlinear also use spirit.....
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Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:23pm On Dec 23, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: The Bible was originally written in ancient Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. Today it is available in whole or in part in over 3,000 languages. The vast majority of people who read the Bible do not understand the original languages and therefore must rely on a translation. What principles should guide how the Bible is translated, and how did these govern the rendering of the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures? Some might conclude that a strict, word-for-word, interlinear-style translation would enable the reader to get closest to what was expressed in the original languages. However, that is not always the case. Consider a few of the reasons: No two languages are exactly alike in grammar, vocabulary, and sentence structure. A professor of Hebrew, S. R. Driver, wrote that languages “differ not only in grammar and roots, but also . . . in the manner in which ideas are built up into a sentence.” Different languages require quite different thought patterns. “Consequently,” continues Professor Driver, “the forms taken by the sentence in different languages are not the same.” No modern language exactly mirrors the vocabulary and grammar of Biblical Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek, so a word-for-word translation of the Bible could be unclear or at times could even convey the wrong meaning. The meaning of a word or an expression may vary depending on the context in which it is used. A translator may be able to mirror the literal rendering of the original language in some passages, but this must be done very carefully. Here are some examples of how word-for-word translation can be misunderstood: The Scriptures use the expressions “sleep” and “fall asleep” to refer both to physical sleep and to the sleep of death. (Matthew 28:13; Acts 7:60) When these expressions are used in contexts that refer to death, Bible translators can use such wording as “fall asleep in death,” which helps the modern reader avoid confusion.—1 Corinthians 7:39; 1 Thessalonians 4:13; 2 Peter 3:4.The apostle Paul used an expression found at Ephesians 4:14 that can be literally translated “in the playing of dice of men.” This ancient idiom alludes to the practice of cheating others when using dice. In most languages, a literal rendering of this allusion makes little sense. Translating this expression as “the trickery of men” is a clearer way to convey the meaning. At Romans 12:11, a Greek expression is used that literally means “to the spirit boiling.” This wording does not convey the intended meaning in English, so it is rendered “aglow with the spirit” in this translation. During his famous Sermon on the Mount, Jesus used an expression that is often translated “Blessed are the poor in spirit.” (Matthew 5:3, King James Version) But in many languages, a literal rendering of this expression is obscure. In some cases, a strictly literal translation could imply that “the poor in spirit” are mentally unbalanced or lacking in vitality and determination. However, Jesus was here teaching people that their happiness depended, not on satisfying their physical needs, but on recognizing their need for God’s guidance. (Luke 6:20) Thus, such renderings as “those conscious of their spiritual need” or “those who know their need for God” convey more accurately the meaning of the original expression.—Matthew 5:3; The New Testament in Modern English. In many contexts, the Hebrew word translated “jealousy” corresponds to the common meaning of the English word, namely, to feel anger over the apparent unfaithfulness of a close associate or to envy others for their possessions. (Proverbs 6:34; Isaiah 11:13) However, the same Hebrew word also has a positive connotation. For example, it may be used of the “zeal,” or protective ardor, that Jehovah shows for his servants or of his “requiring exclusive devotion.” (Exodus 34:14; 2 Kings 19:31; Ezekiel 5:13; Zechariah 8:2) It may also be used of the “zeal” that his faithful servants have for God and his worship or of their ‘tolerating no rivalry’ toward him.—Psalm 69:9; 119:139; Numbers 25:11.The Hebrew expression that usually refers to the human hand has a wide variety of meanings. Depending on the context, this word may be rendered “authority,” “generosity,” or “power.” (2 Samuel 8:3; 1 Kings 10:13; Proverbs 18:21) In fact, this particular word is translated over 40 different ways in the English edition of the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures. In view of these factors, Bible translation involves more than simply rendering an original-language word with the same term each time it occurs. A translator must use good judgment in order to select words in the target language that best represent the ideas of the original-language text. In addition, there is a need to structure the sentences in a way that conforms to the rules of grammar of the target language, making the text easy to read. At the same time, extremes in rewording the text must be avoided. A translator who liberally paraphrases the Bible according to how he interprets the overall idea could distort the meaning of the text. How so? The translator may erroneously insert his opinion of what the original text means or may omit important details contained in the original text. So while paraphrases of the Bible may be easy to read, their very freeness at times may prevent the reader from getting the true message of the text. Doctrinal bias can easily color a translator’s work. For example, Matthew 7:13 says: “Spacious is the road leading off into destruction.” Some translators, perhaps affected by doctrinal bias, have used the term “hell” rather than what the Greek term really means, namely, “destruction.” A Bible translator must also consider that the Bible was written using the common, everyday language of average people, such as farmers, shepherds, and fishermen. (Nehemiah 8:8, 12; Acts 4:13) Therefore, a good translation of the Bible makes the message it contains understandable to sincere people, regardless of their background. Clear, common, readily understood expressions are preferred over terms that are rarely used by the average person. Quite a number of Bible translators have taken the unjustifiable liberty of omitting God’s name, Jehovah, from modern translations even though that name is found in ancient Bible manuscripts. (See Appendix A4.) Many translations replace the name with a title, such as “Lord,” and some even obscure the fact that God has a name. For example, in some translations, Jesus’ prayer recorded at John 17:26 reads: “I made you known to them,” and at John 17:6, “I have revealed you to those whom you gave me.” However, a faithful rendering of Jesus’ prayer reads: “I have made your name known to them,” and “I have made your name manifest to the men whom you gave me.” As stated in the foreword to the original English edition of the New World Translation: “We offer no paraphrase of the Scriptures. Our endeavor all through has been to give as literal a translation as possible, where the modern English idiom allows and where a literal rendition does not for any clumsiness hide the thought.” Thus, the New World Bible Translation Committee has endeavored to strike a balance between using words and phrasing that mirror the original and, at the same time, avoiding wording that reads awkwardly or hides the intended thought. As a result, the Bible can be read with ease and the reader can have full confidence that its inspired message has been transmitted faithfully.—1 Thessalonians 2:13.A reliable translation must: Sanctify God’s name by restoring it to its rightful place in the Scriptures.—Matthew 6:9.Accurately convey the original message that was inspired by God.—2 Timothy 3:16.Translate expressions literally when the wording and structure of the target language allow for such renderings of the original-language text. Communicate the correct sense of a word or a phrase when a literal rendering would distort or obscure the meaning. Use natural, easy-to-understand language that encourages reading.—Nehemiah 8:8, 12 |
Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by MightySparrow: 3:12am On Dec 24, 2024 |
achorladey:
Their one Kingdom Interlinear also use spirit..... Whenever, a person wants to take a wrong inheritance, he must tell a wrong story. ___a Yoruba adage. For JWs to arrogate to themselves what they are not, there must be a scriptural distortion to backup such claims.;    . 2 Likes |
Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by achorladey: 8:24am On Dec 24, 2024 |
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Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by achorladey: 8:26am On Dec 24, 2024 |
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Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by Janosky: 11:49pm On Dec 24, 2024 |
MightySparrow:
Whenever, a person wants to take a wrong inheritance, he must tell a wrong story. ___a Yoruba adage.
For JWs to arrogate to themselves what they are not, there must be a scriptural distortion to backup such claims.;  . achorladey:
Their own Kingdom Interlinear also use spirit..... Empty WAILING WAILER,Wear your goggles and see am in footnotes for that verse. It's there.  MightySparrow: However, the 'inspired word clearly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired statementsa and teachings of demons,
The attempt to make Jehovah's Witnesses present to their congregants a text to promote their bias in the interpretation from the original texts, some obvious mispresentation and translation is easily observed. One of such is the passage of the Bible above Bearing in mind that Paul was writing to Timothy, to avoid that the Spirit was the one speaking, being a force, that cannot talk, or having consciousness, it has to be replaced with the ' inspired word'. The inspirer was removed. The rendering makes the meaning watered down. Which inspired word was Paul referring to? Was Paul quoting some texts or was it his personal revelation by the spirit he was communicating to Timothy?
Sparrow hypocrite, your WAILING and empty tantrums is a cry for attention. For 3 major reasons, sparrow hypocrisy must be exposed.
*1 @ 1 Timothy 4:1 NWT,"spirit" is in the footnote. Oga, How many of your Trinitarian mentors placed Gehenna in footnotes in their translations? Spirit @ 1 Timothy 4:1 is not a being.
"I love wine and spirit" . The statement doesn't mean nor imply that "spirit" referenced any being. "The Journal said", "the Newspaper said,(you hear this statement every day during newspaper headlines reviews, but you Sparrow doesn't fault it. ). The Journal or the Newspaper are not beings. I said "his anger speaks volumes does not mean that his anger is a being or any being
Jesus said "wisdom bears children" neither imply nor suggest that wisdom is a being..* 2 Jesus Biblical evidence @ Luke & Matthew gospels said holy spirit is God's finger (the hand of God upon Christ & other prophets of old, Isaiah 61:1). Exodus 8:19, Egyptian magicians agreed with Jesus. Holy spirit is God's finger,a force in action.
* 3 @James 3:6, James the apostle wrote Gehenna, did your Trinitarian mentors write Gehenna? No , is the answer.
@Luke 12:5. ..@Mark 9:43. @Mark 9:45. @.Mark 9:47. ... @Matthew 5:22. ... @Matthew 5:29. ... @Matthew 5:30, all these verses, Jesus Christ said Gehenna, did your Trinitarian mentors write Gehenna that Jesus said? No.
Oga Sparrow,go and query your Trinitarian mentors for their bias @James 3:6., Luke 12:5. ..., Mark 9:43. , Mark 9:45., Mark 9:47, Matthew 5:22, Matthew 5:29., Matthew 5:30,
Sparrow hypocrisy smells more than carbide. Very nauseating  |
Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by Janosky: 12:06am On Dec 25, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: The Author of the Bible purposefully inspired the writers to pen down words that even the writers can't comprehend:
Now as for me, I heard, but I could not understand; so I said: “O my lord, what will be the outcome of these things?” Daniel 12:8
So God only instructed them to pen down the words and conceal it because it's meant for His true worshipers in the end time:
Then he said: “Go, Daniel, because the words are to be kept secret and sealed up until the time of the end. Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined. And the wicked ones will act wickedly, and none of the wicked will understand; but those having insight will understand." Daniel 12:9-10
So it's not be understood by all kinds of people only faithful ones {2Thessalonians 3:2} but how can faithful people identify their kind in the end time?
God answered:
"At that time those who fear Jehovah spoke with one another, each one with his companion, and Jehovah kept paying attention and listening. And a book of remembrance was written before him for those fearing Jehovah and for those meditating on his name" Malachi 3:16
Jehovah said in this way they will identify their kind among humankind:
And you will again see the distinction between a righteous person and a wicked person, between one serving God and one not serving him. Malachi 3:18
But what will they be doing after identifying themselves?
God answered again:
They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore. Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3
After identifying themselves they will us God's word as yardstick to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop the making, buying, selling and using weapons against their neighbors and vow never to raise weapons against their neighbors again!
This is the reason why God gave mankind that book called Bible not for each individual to say:
"I understand God's word because Holy Spirit interpreted it for me"
But when Satan comes with his schemes like politics and racism to make you hate your neighbour you trash your Bible and join others in fighting and killings your neighbours including your so called fellow believers! Revelations 6:3-4
That's why Jesus said only those doing the will of God will be saved not those calling him "Lord Lord" Matthew 7:21-23
So if you don't know the purpose of God's word you will choose whatever interpretation that pleases you but such will never help you to RECOGNIZE the gathering of Holy Ones! Luke 17:37
The post is not meant for you rather it's meant for other followers who may wish to know why Ezra need to add meaning to the reading of God's word!
Ezʹra opened the book in the sight of all the people, for he was above all the people. As he opened it, all the people stood up. Then Ezʹra praised Jehovah the true God, the great One, at which all the people answered, “Amen! Amen!” and lifted up their hands. They then bowed low and prostrated themselves to Jehovah with their faces to the ground. And Jeshʹu·a, Baʹni, She·re·biʹah, Jaʹmin, Akʹkub, Shabʹbe·thai, Ho·diʹah, Ma·a·seiʹah, Ke·liʹta, Az·a·riʹah, Joʹza·bad, Haʹnan, and Pe·laʹiah, who were Levites, were explaining the Law to the people, while the people remained standing. And they continued reading aloud from the book, from the Law of the true God, clearly explaining it and putting meaning into it; so they helped the people to understand what was being read. Nehemiah 8:5-8
This is why only Jehovah's Witnesses can act in line with God's will by doing all what the above prophecies listed as if they own the Bible whereas all other religions can't confidently point to the FINE WORKS their faith is producing in line with God's word! 
Sparrow is seeking attention he has been missing from JW's.
Sparrow hypocrisy speaks Volumes because he has never queried his Trinitarian mentors for their bias @James 3:6., Luke 12:5. ..., Mark 9:43. , Mark 9:45., Mark 9:47, Matthew 5:22, Matthew 5:29., Matthew 5:30, Him mentors no agree to put Gehenna for the Bible where the word Gehenna must be. But Sparrow keep quiet & no challenge them.
Sparrow WAILING WAILER, charity begins at home.
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Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by MightySparrow: 5:26am On Dec 25, 2024 |
Janosky: Empty WAILING WAILER,Wear your goggles and see am in footnotes for that verse. It's there. 
Sparrow hypocrite, your WAILING and empty tantrums is a cry for attention. For 3 major reasons, sparrow hypocrisy must be exposed.
*1 @ 1 Timothy 4:1 NWT,"spirit" is in the footnote. Oga, How many of your Trinitarian mentors placed Gehenna in footnotes in their translations? Spirit @ 1 Timothy 4:1 is not a being.
"I love wine and spirit" . The statement doesn't mean nor imply that "spirit" referenced any being. "The Journal said", "the Newspaper said,(you hear this statement every day during newspaper headlines reviews, but you Sparrow doesn't fault it. ). The Journal or the Newspaper are not beings. I said "his anger speaks volumes does not mean that his anger is a being or any being
Jesus said "wisdom bears children" neither imply nor suggest that wisdom is a being..
*2 Jesus Biblical evidence @ Luke & Matthew gospels said holy spirit is God's finger (the hand of God upon Christ & other prophets of old, Isaiah 61:1). Exodus 8:19, Egyptian magicians agreed with Jesus. Holy spirit is God's finger,a force in action.
*3 @James 3:6, James the apostle wrote Gehenna, did your Trinitarian mentors write Gehenna? No , is the answer.
@Luke 12:5. ..@Mark 9:43. @Mark 9:45. @.Mark 9:47. ... @Matthew 5:22. ... @Matthew 5:29. ... @Matthew 5:30, all these verses, Jesus Christ said Gehenna, did your Trinitarian mentors write Gehenna that Jesus said? No.
Oga Sparrow,go and query your Trinitarian mentors for their bias @James 3:6., Luke 12:5. ..., Mark 9:43. , Mark 9:45., Mark 9:47, Matthew 5:22, Matthew 5:29., Matthew 5:30,
Sparrow hypocrisy smells more than carbide. Very nauseating  Hahaha. Janoskololo 😂 Honestly review your post. That a word is used for so many things does not mean, you don't know what is referred to per time per use. 😂   . PMS is called spirit. Alcohol is called spirit The core of a living being is called spirit. The attitude with which a thing is done is called spirit. None of these has Hebrew interpretation for spirit. I In fact, from Aramaic/ Hebrew to Greek to English is something else. So English has so many words that has many meanings. Playing with such make you to dishonesty support and tout your ideas and community truth.   All Jehovah's Witnesses are persons from all nations. Janosky is one of Jehovah's witnesses from Nigeria. Janosky is a Nigerian and a member of Jehovah's witnesses. Janosky, a Nigerian member of Jehovah's witnesses is a fish. God is a spirit being John 4:24 All angels are spirits , they are beings Satan is a spirit, a being. Pre incarnate Jesus was a spirit, a being All spirits are beings. God, Satan is, angels are beings. Holy Spirit is of all is a force. Matt.3.16 - And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove,1. Holy Spirit can be seen and lighting upon him: Matt.4.1 - Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.2. Holy Spirit can lead, having a sense of knowing and control 3.John.16.13 - Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 4. The Spirit has self awareness, and consciousness, and can take decisions. These are words of Jesus Himself.5. Isa.40.13 - Who hath directed the Spirit of the LORD, or being his counsellor hath taught him? Even in the Old Testament, the spirit is not viewed as a force, Isa.48.16 - Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.The Spirit can single handedly or jointly send a person on an errand. Ezek.8.3 - And he put forth the form of an hand, and took me by a lock of mine head; and the spirit lifted [/b]me up between the earth and the heaven, and brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem, to the door of the inner gate that looketh toward the north; where was the seat of the image of jealousy, which provoketh to jealousy.
7. Acts.8.29 - [b]Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.The Spirit talked, not inspire, talked to Philip 8. Acts.23.9 - And there arose a great cry: and the scribes that were of the Pharisees' part arose, and strove, saying, We find no evil in this man: but if a spirit or an angel [/b]hath spoken to him, let us not fight against God.
The Bible people did see angels and spirits as brings though, the word spirit means wind also.
9. Another word for Holy Spirit is Holy Ghost
Acts.19.2 - He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
Spirit and holy Ghost in any language is seen as a being, in a class of unseen essence but real. They are used interchangeably in the Bible. Jesus Himself, the creator of all things, confirm the existence of ghosts or spirits as beings only the do not have flesh and bones.
Luke.24.39 - Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; [b]for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.10. Holy is added to the name ghost or spirit to give clear identity to a particular spirit. A name is primarily for identity. 11. So how come that all spirits are beings and only the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit is an essence? 1 Like |
Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by johnw47: 5:31am On Dec 25, 2024 |
Janosky:  Sparrow hypocrite, your WAILING and empty tantrums is a cry for attention.  Janosky: Sparrow is seeking attention he has been missing from JW's.  ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool lost fraud jw janosky one of the sure ways you can detect that you are a son of the devil, is by your habitual lying, just like the devil himself: false jw's Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 2 Likes |
Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by achorladey: 7:35am On Dec 25, 2024 |
Janosky: Empty WAILING WAILER,Wear your goggles and see am in footnotes for that verse. It's there. 
Sparrow hypocrite, your WAILING and empty tantrums is a cry for attention. For 3 major reasons, sparrow hypocrisy must be exposed.
*1 @ 1 Timothy 4:1 NWT,"spirit" is in the footnote. Oga, How many of your Trinitarian mentors placed Gehenna in footnotes in their translations? Spirit @ 1 Timothy 4:1 is not a being.
"I love wine and spirit" . The statement doesn't mean nor imply that "spirit" referenced any being. "The Journal said", "the Newspaper said,(you hear this statement every day during newspaper headlines reviews, but you Sparrow doesn't fault it. ). The Journal or the Newspaper are not beings. I said "his anger speaks volumes does not mean that his anger is a being or any being
Jesus said "wisdom bears children" neither imply nor suggest that wisdom is a being..
*2 Jesus Biblical evidence @ Luke & Matthew gospels said holy spirit is God's finger (the hand of God upon Christ & other prophets of old, Isaiah 61:1). Exodus 8:19, Egyptian magicians agreed with Jesus. Holy spirit is God's finger,a force in action.
*3 @James 3:6, James the apostle wrote Gehenna, did your Trinitarian mentors write Gehenna? No , is the answer.
@Luke 12:5. ..@Mark 9:43. @Mark 9:45. @.Mark 9:47. ... @Matthew 5:22. ... @Matthew 5:29. ... @Matthew 5:30, all these verses, Jesus Christ said Gehenna, did your Trinitarian mentors write Gehenna that Jesus said? No.
Oga Sparrow,go and query your Trinitarian mentors for their bias @James 3:6., Luke 12:5. ..., Mark 9:43. , Mark 9:45., Mark 9:47, Matthew 5:22, Matthew 5:29., Matthew 5:30,
Sparrow hypocrisy smells more than carbide. Very nauseating  We know you cannot afford to leave werey peddling with your brains filled with wailings and no get sense peddling. Now he deflects into GEHENNA. The usual mode of operation of Jehovah's Witnesses when caught in lies and manipulations. Oh we are not the problem. Christendom too always do it and we as Jehovah's Witnesses must do copy copy and yet say we are special. Your werey peddling brains attached follow come delusion charger  |
Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by achorladey: 7:40am On Dec 25, 2024 |
MightySparrow:
Hahaha. Janoskololo 😂 Honestly review your post. That a word is used for so many things does not mean, you don't know what is referred to per time per use. 😂 .
PMS is called spirit. Alcohol is called spirit The core of a living being is called spirit. The attitude with which a thing is done is called spirit. None of these has Hebrew interpretation for spirit. I In fact, from Aramaic/ Hebrew to Greek to English is something else. So English has so many words that has many meanings. Playing with such make you to dishonesty support and tout your ideas and community truth. 
All Jehovah's Witnesses are persons from all nations. Janosky is one of Jehovah's witnesses from Nigeria. Janosky is a Nigerian and a member of Jehovah's witnesses. Janosky, a Nigerian member of Jehovah's witnesses is a fish.
God is a spirit being John 4:24 All angels are spirits , they are beings Satan is a spirit, a being. Pre incarnate Jesus was a spirit, a being All spirits are beings. God, Satan is, angels are beings. Holy Spirit is of all is a force.
Matt.3.16 - And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, 1. Holy Spirit can be seen and lighting upon him:
Matt.4.1 - Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
2. Holy Spirit can lead, having a sense of knowing and control
3.John.16.13 - Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
4. The Spirit has self awareness, and consciousness, and can take decisions. These are words of Jesus Himself.
5. Isa.40.13 - Who hath directed the Spirit of the LORD, or being his counsellor hath taught him?
Even in the Old Testament, the spirit is not viewed as a force,
Isa.48.16 - Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.
The Spirit can single handedly or jointly send a person on an errand.
Ezek.8.3 - And he put forth the form of an hand, and took me by a lock of mine head; and the spirit lifted [/b]me up between the earth and the heaven, and brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem, to the door of the inner gate that looketh toward the north; where was the seat of the image of jealousy, which provoketh to jealousy.
7. Acts.8.29 - [b]Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.
The Spirit talked, not inspire, talked to Philip
8. Acts.23.9 - And there arose a great cry: and the scribes that were of the Pharisees' part arose, and strove, saying, We find no evil in this man: but if a spirit or an angel [/b]hath spoken to him, let us not fight against God.
The Bible people did see angels and spirits as brings though, the word spirit means wind also.
9. Another word for Holy Spirit is Holy Ghost
Acts.19.2 - He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
Spirit and holy Ghost in any language is seen as a being, in a class of unseen essence but real. They are used interchangeably in the Bible. Jesus Himself, the creator of all things, confirm the existence of ghosts or spirits as beings only the do not have flesh and bones.
Luke.24.39 - Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; [b]for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
10. Holy is added to the name ghost or spirit to give clear identity to a particular spirit. A name is primarily for identity.
11. So how come that all spirits are beings and only the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit is an essence?
Lies and manipulations na their area of expertise. They know in their quest to manipulate so many things they get stucked in some areas where they go silent or refuse to discuss it  He said they put spirit in footnotes  What is the spirit doing in footnote when it was written clearly in the original. Manipulators and liars na their way  1 Like |
Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by AntiChristian: 7:54am On Dec 25, 2024 |
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Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:00am On Dec 25, 2024 |
Janosky:
Sparrow is seeking attention he has been missing from JW's. He has been mentioning my name in virtually all threads that he can't make any meaningful comments: MightySparrow: I know it is paining maximumSide MightySparrow:
What makes anything scientific is it's repeatability, universality, and timelessness. Our own God is proven to be true and trustworthy every time, everywhere, in every situation. ... letter killeth, it is the spirit that giveth live. I pity people who believe that their own god is on holiday. I believe in miracles. Hallelujah. CC: maximumSide MightySparrow:
You should understand the position of Olukoya. He introduced prayer of enemies and no mercy to pentecostal arena. He doesn't believe in mercy and forgiveness. Every enemy, real and perceived are to die by fire of hell or prison. The poor choir leader has a wrong enemy. Only God can deliver him.. cc: maximumSide instead of him to humbly study the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses and become a competent Bible student he was calling me to come and argue in favour of him!  |
Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by achorladey: 8:13am On Dec 25, 2024 |
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Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by AntiChristian: 8:21am On Dec 25, 2024 |
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Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by Janosky: 9:06am On Dec 25, 2024 |
MightySparrow:
Hahaha. Janoskololo 😂 Honestly review your post. That a word is used for so many things does not mean, you don't know what is referred to per time per use. 😂 .
PMS is called spirit. Alcohol is called spirit The core of a living being is called spirit. The attitude with which a thing is done is called spirit. None of these has Hebrew interpretation for spirit. I In fact, from Aramaic/ Hebrew to Greek to English is something else. So English has so many words that has many meanings. Playing with such make you to dishonesty support and tout your ideas and community truth. 
Hebrew ruach the word for spirit meaning breath,wind. Sparrow LYING miscreant go and educate yourself. Bible study tools is the reference work of your Trinitarian mentors. Empty WAILING WAILERS make the loudest noise to cover up their IBERIBEISM.
https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/greek/nas/pneuma.html
The screenshot evidence have exposed your half baked illiteracy.
You are WAILING about JW's 1 Timothy 4:1, but you kept your mouth shut while your Trinitarian mentors removed Gehenna in Mark 9:43,45,Luke 12:5. @Matthew 5:22. ... @Matthew 5:29. ... @Matthew 5:30.
Sparrow WAILING WAILER, I won't allow you to dodge & deflect this fact. 
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Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by Janosky: 9:16am On Dec 25, 2024 |
AntiChristian:
Are you saying there's no error whatsoever in any other versions of the Bible? No mind that MUMU whose happiness depends on WAILING about JW's.
When a man is always WAILING about his former partner at every occasion,is he emotionally stable and sane? That is Achorladey for you. That guy is in Sifia pains.  |
Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by achorladey: 9:18am On Dec 25, 2024 |
AntiChristian:
Are you saying there's no error whatsoever in any other versions of the Bible? Because your brains as ANTICHRISTIAN did not see and cannot comprehend..... The writers and publishers of the materials you referenced are part of the errors added into it Your brains are more about raising your religion Islam above Christianity  |
Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by achorladey: 9:21am On Dec 25, 2024 |
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Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by Janosky: 9:32am On Dec 25, 2024 |
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Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by MightySparrow: 9:32am On Dec 25, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:
He has been mentioning my name in virtually all threads that he can't make any meaningful comments:
instead of him to humbly study the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses and become a competent Bible student he was calling me to come and argue in favour of him!  There is nothing like humility with an organization that is inconsistent with doctrines. Your organization subtly discards doctrines and pretend as people don't know. Thanks to God written materials don't lie. I would have loved your brother to take the points one by one and refute them. There is nothing in his response that was not pointed out. 2 Likes |
Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by achorladey: 9:45am On Dec 25, 2024 |
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Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by achorladey: 9:48am On Dec 25, 2024 |
MightySparrow:
There is nothing like humility with an organization that is inconsistent with doctrines. Your organization subtly discards doctrines and pretend as people don't know. Thanks to God written materials don't lie.
I would have loved your brother to take the points one by one and refute them. There is nothing in his response that was not pointed out. Humility and Jehovah's witnesses organization na words an opposite. The reason at every meetings you see members always being told to be humble, carry body down, carry shoulder down. Arrogance and pride na problem in their midst. The cause started from their GODS of men housed in USA. Words...... HumilityOpposite........ Jehovah's witnesses organization  1 Like |
Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by Janosky: 9:55am On Dec 25, 2024 |
MightySparrow:
Matt.3.16 - And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, 1. Holy Spirit can be seen and lighting upon him:
Matt.4.1 - Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
2. Holy Spirit can lead, having a sense of knowing and control
3.John.16.13 - Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
4. The Spirit has self awareness, and consciousness, and can take decisions. These are words of Jesus Himself.
5. Isa.40.13 - Who hath directed the Spirit of the LORD, or being his counsellor hath taught him?
Even in the Old Testament, the spirit is not viewed as a force,
Isa.48.16 - Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.
The Spirit can single handedly or jointly send a person on an errand.
Ezek.8.3 - And he put forth the form of an hand, and took me by a lock of mine head; and the spirit lifted [/b]me up between the earth and the heaven, and brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem, to the door of the inner gate that looketh toward the north; where was the seat of the image of jealousy, which provoketh to jealousy.
[b]7. Acts.8.29 - [b]Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.
The Spirit talked, not inspire, talked to Philip [/b] 8. Acts.23.9 - And there arose a great cry: and the scribes that were of the Pharisees' part arose, and strove, saying, We find no evil in this man: but if a spirit or an angel [/b]hath spoken to him, let us not fight against God.
The Bible people did see angels and spirits as brings though, the word spirit means wind also.
9. Another word for Holy Spirit is Holy Ghost
Acts.19.2 - He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
Spirit and holy Ghost in any language is seen as a being, in a class of unseen essence but real. They are used interchangeably in the Bible. Jesus Himself, the creator of all things, confirm the existence of ghosts or spirits as beings only the do not have flesh and bones.
Luke.24.39 - Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; [b]for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
10. Holy is added to the name ghost or spirit to give clear identity to a particular spirit. A name is primarily for identity.
11. So how come that all spirits are beings and only the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit is an essence?
Sparrow illiteracy about the holy scriptures. Empty WAILING WAILER seeking attention and making noise
The English word "he" is not in Greek scripture at John 16:13, MUMU WAILER 
Acts 8:26-29, Jehovah's angel in verse 26 is the spirit in verse 29, MUMU WAILER deceiving himself.
@ Ezekiel 8:3, Jehovah used holy spirit to lift up prophet Ezekiel in the form of a hand and also used it to empower Jesus in the form of a dove @ Matthew 3:16.
Sparrow LYING miscreant, Jehovah God the Supreme Spirit had one of one conversations with Abraham, Genesis chapters 17&18..
Jesus Christ a life giving spirit had one on one conversation with Saul on the road to Damascus.
God's angel a spirit had one on one conversation with Gideon and Mary,as well as other believers. Oga WAILING WAILER Sparrow, I challenge you to show proof of your 3rd ghost deity having one on one conversation with any believer in your Bible. You just dey deceive yourself.  ., |
Re: Inaccurate Rendering Of New Word Translation by Janosky: 10:02am On Dec 25, 2024 |
achorladey:
Because Gehenna = inspired word = Spirit. Deflectors items Your werey brains is filled with wailings and wailers peddling. 1 Timothy 4:1 is the inspired word of God. But Achorladey no want his own brain to function.  |