DaddyCoool:

Christ did not speak English.
In English neighbor means propinquity!

MaxInDHouse:

Perhaps your ancestors were using mobile phones two centuries ago after all energy existed in their time!

MaxInDHouse:


The English defines NEIGHBOUR in the screenshot below o they said a fellow human being!

DaddyCoool:

OMG you can't be this dense. EVERYTHING that resulted in cell phone was already here. NOTHING was created. Someone else please tell him

DaddyCoool:

All the definitions define it in terms of nearness EXCEPT the biblical - and the Bible was NOT written in English!

DaddyCoool:


Go and find out the difference between "in the beginning was God" and "In the beginning God came into being or God was created"
Hint: in one God was ALREADY there!

MaxInDHouse:

Jesus was CREATED in the beginning and that's

GothamCities:

Lol.
Thanks for shutting them up using their own doctored Bible. They know they have no answers

gohf:

I built the whole table with a hammer, without my hammer I wouldn't have built the table, all my furnitures were built with it.

Aemmyjah:

Your brain needs small polishing walahi 😂

Janosky:


Confused Trinitarian denying Nicene Creed dey yarn GIBBERISH.

sonmvayina

Steep:
Jesus christ and God the Father share same essence or are one being but separate persons. Another way of putting it is that the divine being God is a tri-personal being unlike you and I, who are mono-personal beings.

MaxInDHouse:


Stop lying nah!

See the dictionary again.
English says create can be defined as "to make or produce from other"

MaxInDHouse:

So English agreed with the Bible while you disagree.

Wonder shall never end!

DaddyCoool:


You don't understand. The quote is from JW Bible verbatim, word for word.
Notice they didn't change it to "a god" as they did in John 1.
See it below.

DaddyCoool:

Add to that these quotes:
Colossians 1:16 - God created EVRRYTHING through his beloved Son, Jesus Christ.

John 1:3 - ALL things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made

You could say these are mere words that could have been manipulated.
So above everything, add 2000+ years of glorious worship!

Janosky:


Greek John 1:1.: "in beginning was the Word"

DaddyCoool: "in the beginning was God".

Madam, which Bible verse did you quote from?

DaddyCoool:


See stupidity. I'm sure you can read: "BY HIM!!"
Your hammer didn't make anything!
John 1:3 - ALL things were made BY Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made
So obviously he himself was NOT made. Also, your hammer is not your son. This is God's "son"! But God doesn't go about having sons. Therefore this must have been part of God, God himself!

DaddyCoool:


He missed the point.
Here's the point:
Even your blood is not your brother unless JW!

gohf:


If you believe Jesus was the one who created the world that's your business, you have been a deaf mule since the beginning only repeating what is in your own head irrespective of what any other person says.

John.1.3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

DaddyCoool:

Stop making a fool of yourself. Scientists have not been able to create even an atom, living or not living. You know full well we mean create from nothing, as in Genesis

gohf:


If you believe Jesus was the one who created the world that's your business, you have been a deaf mule since the beginning only repeating what is in your own head irrespective of what any other person says.

John.1.3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

Janosky:


The point espoused by John 1:3 , Paul has explained it @ Hebrew 1:2, God Yahweh "created the world through Jesus His son".

I told my Engineer," Let us build a mansion."

I gave him the dimensions and measurements to work with, thereafter work begins.

The Owner of the mansion built edifice through his Engineer.
The Engineer (Jesus Christ) can not claim ownership (or Creator) because:
1. The idea to Create is not from Jesus initiative.

2. Jesus was working according to instructions given by God His Father/Creator.

The Greek word dia (meaning Instrumentality/Agency is @ John 1:3, Hebrew 1:2, Colossians 1:16,1 Cor 8:6.

DaddyCoool:

Christ gave a parable in Hebrew or Aramaic, which have been transliterated and translated many times. If he had just said neighbor that man wouldn't have asked "who is my neighbor? "

DaddyCoool:


I thought you said you are NOT JW?
This is the authoritative King James Version below

DaddyCoool:


I thought you said you are NOT JW?
This is the authoritative King James Version below

DaddyCoool:
Even whe clear Scripture is presented to them, they dance around it and never honestly consider it.













Let's put this debate to rest once and for all.
The normal human inclination is NOT to complicated things, to go for the easier path.
Hence our natural inclination is to say: "How can Christ be God? There is only one God!"
The problem starts when you actually start reading and studying the Bible. As you immerse and really get to know the Bible, it will gradually dawn on you that Christ can't be anything but God!

That's why founders of groups like JW usually never went beyond high school. Or an uneducated person like prophet Muhammad. They can't handle that there is any complication to God. But real scholars must or they'd be lying to themselves!

Here are some things I posted previously:

There are quotations in the Bible both in support of, and seemingly NOT in support of deity of Christ. So we look at our practical life experiences:

God restored a Person from dead knowing fully well he'd be worshipped as God, and you don't think he approves of it? And it's been on for 2000+ years, and the church has only multiplied, prospered, and become stronger?
You'd be implying God does not exist, or is powerless, or does not care! - and LordReed would heartily agree with you!

See, if this were 50 AD, we could be saying let's wait and see. And remember, nothing provokes the wrath of YHWH like trying to worship another alongside Him. Don't you think that for Him to resurrect a dead Person and allow His being worshipped as God for thousands of years says something about where He stands on the issue??!

Can't you see he can ONLY be God? God has no son or you'd be talking of wife, mother, etc (as in Roman gods). "Son of God" can only mean an extention of God (unlike, say, a prophet), a manifestation of God, God himself!

Don’t you think it is only God that could have restored a Person from all that (He was literally DEAD!) to a position of being worshipped as God, and that it would never have been possible if God had not approved of it, and definitely would not have lasted these thousands of years?

Matthew 28:19: Jesus commands His disciples to baptize "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."

2 Corinthians 13:14: Paul speaks of "the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit."

Janosky:


My relationship with my JW's brother is of paramount importance (Galatians 6:10) Jesus made that point at Matthew 12:47-50 and Matthew 10:34-38.

Paul the apostle @ Galatians 6:10 is in agreement with Jesus

MaxInDHouse:


So it's no longer dictionary but scientists shey?

Now it's scientists that's determining the meaning of English language!

gohf:
the official bible announced from heaven by the very anointed apostle James who won souls and saved millions of sinners, the other versions are all fake. Only KJV, everyone that rejects it must be JW

Janosky:


The point espoused by John 1:3 , Paul has explained it @ Hebrew 1:2, God Yahweh "created the world through Jesus His son".

I told my Engineer," Let us build a mansion."

I gave him the dimensions and measurements to work with, thereafter work begins.

The Owner of the mansion built edifice through his Engineer.
The Engineer (Jesus Christ) can not claim ownership (or Creator) because:
1. The idea to Create is not from Jesus initiative.

2. Jesus was working according to instructions given by God His Father/Creator.

The Greek word dia (meaning Instrumentality/Agency is @ John 1:3, Hebrew 1:2, Colossians 1:16,1 Cor 8:6.

gohf:
daddycool is a typical lying nigerian politician that only sees what they want and not what is true, so showing her or him dia is meaningless. Because not once have they admitted their goof on this thread

Janosky:


The Greek word @ John 1:3/ Hebrew 1:2, is "dia antou" (in English translation "through him/his son (Jesus)"


The Greek word "dia" (meaning Instrumentality/Agency) is @ John 1:3, Hebrew 1:2, Colossians 1:16,1 Cor 8:6.

John & Paul the apostles agreed that Jesus is the Instrumentality/ Agency NOT the Creator.

The KJV rendition "by him" distorted the meaning of Greek "dia".
"By means of " is more correct/ synonymous with "through him "

MaxInDHouse:

Now it's obvious you're just running from pillar to post.
God's word says we should love our neighbour as ourselves {Leviticus 19:18} that's why the Jews wanted Jesus to define what God mean by the word NEIGHBOR since they only view fellow Jews as neighbor. Jesus' parable really makes them feel uncomfortable because Jews don't take Samaritans as neighbors despite being descendants of Jacob like them. That's why Jesus proved to them that a neighbor doesn't need to be someone living next to me or someone i know rather anyone who feels concerned about the well being of people around him is our neighbor.

But when talking about BROTHER such ones must be a person with whom i share something in common so it may be blood brother, business associate or brother by faith. You and i aren't related in any way so you can't be my brother o rather you are my NEIGHBOUR!

gohf:
the official bible announced from heaven by the very anointed apostle James who won souls and saved millions of sinners, the other versions are all fake. Only KJV, everyone that rejects it must be JW

DaddyCoool:


Yeah, but how you know you're BRAINWASHED is when you CAN'T colloquially go "brah, bro, brother"

Madam, my adherence to Jesus teaching at Matthew 12:47-50 & Matthew 10:34-38 is what you label "brainwashed", yet you claim to follow Jesus.
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For your mind,following Jesus & the Bible is akin to shopping at Supermarket where you pick and choose.


2 persons worshipping devotee, pseudo -christian forming woke .

Steep:
Even when clear Scripture is presented to them, they dance around it and never honestly consider it.

Janosky:


Madam, my adherence to Jesus teaching at Matthew 12:47-50 & Matthew 10:34-38 is what you label "brainwashed", yet you claim to follow Jesus.
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For your mind,following Jesus & the Bible is akin to shopping at Supermarket where you pick and choose.


2 persons worshipping devotee, pseudo -christian forming woke .

DaddyCoool:











Let's put this debate to rest once and for all.
The normal human inclination is NOT to complicated things, to go for the easier path.
Hence our natural inclination is to say: "How can Christ be God? There is only one God!"
The problem starts when you actually start reading and studying the Bible. As you immerse and really get to know the Bible, it will gradually dawn on you that Christ can't be anything but God!

DaddyCoool:





Let's put this debate to rest once and for all.
The normal human inclination is NOT to complicated things, to go for the easier path.
Hence our natural inclination is to say: "How can Christ be God? There is only one God!"
The problem starts when you actually start reading and studying the Bible. As you immerse and really get to know the Bible, it will gradually dawn on you that Christ can't be anything but God!