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Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by WhizdomXX(m): 3:47pm On Jan 25
franchasofficia:
OP, I am an unapologetic Peter Obi supporter, but Tinubu will win 2027 Presidential election if God keeps him alive and healthy till then.


Let me be honest with you, Bola Tinubu is very good in playing Nigeria's dirty politics. His ownership of Lagos state cemented his grip on Nigeria's politics. So long as Lagos state is in Tinubu's pocket, Tinubu will control Nigeria as he wishes.


If you want to destabilize Nigeria, just destabilize Lagos state.


If you want to destabilize any Nigerian federal government, capture Lagos.


Now to your argument, Tinubu have succeeded in dismantling Northern political influence. Tinubu has retired all the influential Northern politicians that poses a threat to him in 2027. Atiku is just a corpse waiting for burial, he does not have any weight again, he missed his time in 2019.


Peter Obi's influence is dying down, the youths wanted a radical change in 2023 and they followed Peter Obi massively, reason Peter Obi won that 2023 Presidential election but Tinubu was so daring, so brave and prepared he snatched it and ran away without consequences because the sitting President was just confused on who to support; Buhari wanted Ahmed Lawan, but El Rufai, Aisha Buhari his wife and some close allies worked on him to let the power remain in APC than slip into PDP's hands if the APC ticket is handed to Ahmed Lawan, from then, Buhari allowed Tinubu to have his way.



So that rare opportunity Peter Obi had, that Obidient wave cant repeat again because Nigerian youths have seen that voting alone cant produce President of Nigeria, INEC, Judiciary and the incumbent President decides who wins at the end, so many Nigerians that voted Peter Obi wont waste their time and energy again because they know that Peter Obi cant fight the war that comes after the election to secure their vote, so they wouldn't want to risk it, meaning Peter Obi will have fewer votes than he had in 2023 if he runs again of which he wont run anyway.



Once Tinubu declares for 2027, he will win, not necessarily by votes, but by brazen rigging (he is installing the rigging mercenaries already) and nothing will happen, the North will be confused and calm waiting for their own turn come 2031 to revenge whatever that happened between 2023 to 2031.


How the election result will go if Tinubu runs under APC, Atiku under PDP.


Tinubu will win SW landslide
Tinubu will get above 20% in NW
Tinubu will get above 28% in NE
Tinubu will get above 25% in SS
Tinubu will get above 28% in MB
Tinubu will get 10 to 15% in SE


Atiku will win NE
Atiku will slightly win NW
Atiku will get above 20% in SE
Atiku will get above 20% in SS
Atiku will get less than 15% in SW
Atiku will get less than 20% in MB


At the end, Tinubu will win by massive rigging.



The only way the election can prove difficult for Tinubu in 2027 is if Northern Nigeria make a decisive decision on time and rally their top political big weights like Atiku, Kwankwaso, El Rufai, etc to come to a round table and join one party and then swallow their pride and fully support Peter Obi with an agreement of one tenure.


Then they present Peter Obi as flagbearer and Kwankwaso as Vice.


If they can do this before mid 2026, and start massive campaign against Tinubu and his failing government in core north using pure Hausa radio channels, Mosques, etc, that is the only way Tinubu can be challenged and the only way to make the rigging very difficult for Tinubu, anything less, Tinubu will win landslide, and I dont see those Northern guys with overbloated ego coming together and rallying behind Peter Obi, so in summary, Tinubu is winning a reelection come 2027, Nigerians should prepare for it.
Kwakwaso will not agree to that arrangement. Personally, I think Tambuwal will be better.
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by franchasofficia: 4:17pm On Jan 25
WhizdomXX:

Kwakwaso will not agree to that arrangement. Personally, I think Tambuwal will be better.
Tambuwal does not have electoral value in the North.


At least Kwankwaso can win Kano and some other NW states
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by WhizdomXX(m): 5:11pm On Jan 25
franchasofficia:
Tambuwal does not have electoral value in the North.


At least Kwankwaso can win Kano and some other NW states
Same thing you guys said in 2023. Tambuwal can also win Sokoto and other northern states.
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by YoshihideSuga: 6:47am On Jan 26
franchasofficia:
You are not entirely correct. You are being intentionally bias and callous in your opinion.


After the civil war ended in 1970, Northern Nigeria and Southwest entered into a secret political alliance/agreement never to allow Igbos near power; be it Presidency, military, Police, Judiciary, etc as a way of keeping them away from making another attempt of seceding from Nigeria. That was why they never appointed an Igbo man CJN or COAS or IGP, except the Igbos from Niger Delta who saw the handwriting on the wall and started to deny and distance themselves from Southeast Igbos so as not to limit themselves politically and in civil service in Nigeria after the civil war.



From there, Northern Military guys held sway in Nigeria unchallenged because it was Igbos that kept them at bay, with Igbos now defeated after the civil war, they had no challenger or threat again, Yorubas are good in pretentious worship and followership to get what they want, so they followed the North judiciously as these Northern Military guys used the opportunity to balkanize Old Eastern Nigeria and only the super corrupt Igbo politicians who damned the consequences and joined them in holding Igbos down were exalted to federal political limelight, making it seem like Igbos lacked quality politicians.


Infrastructures in Southeast were neglected, crude oil sites in Southeast were ceded to neighboring Southsouth states like Rivers, Akwa Ibom just to make sure Southeast remained economically defeated.


Every tangible federal government agency, bodies, infrastructure were being concentrated in Lagos, Abuja and few in Portharcourt to spite Igbos as they made sure they created an identity crises and enmity between Niger Delta Igbos and Southeast Igbos.



All these and more made Southeast a forgotten region despite Igbo peoples resilience. It was mostly on self development and community development headed by Igbo sons who managed to breakthrough abroad and outside Southeast via trade, business and industry that Southeast region and communities started witnessing progress in road construction, community healthcare, markets, townhall, etc.


This is the beginning of Igbo peoples problem and why Southeast does not have much developmental prospect compared to Southwest, North and Southsouth.


Nigeria is not a manufacturing nation, we are mostly a consuming and import dependent nation, and the most viable seaports were in Southwest and Southsouth which the Northern Military guys made sure they destroyed the Southsouth seaports viability to sabotage Igbos and gradually Lagos ports became the all in all, making it compulsory for every serious business person in Nigeria to site his business in Lagos as those critical government infrastructures, agencies and embassies concentrated in Lagos, so you need to site your business close to the market and where there is population to patronize you.


From the overpopulation happening in Lagos, it began to trickle down to Ogun state the neighboring state, down to Oyo naturally. This was how Southwest became the epicenter of trade and commerce in Nigeria till date and now it's not going to be easy to dismantle unless Nigeria completely disintegrates and that is why Yorubas abhor the idea of Nigeria dividing even though some of them dont like Fulani people and their violent ways and political dominance, but they prefer a united Nigeria where they still use cunning and treacherous politics of gangup to outshine the Southeast than have their own independent nation which they fear of its future.
now
You are very correct about the bold. But I wonder why they fear an independent Biafra? It would favour everyone to have their own country.
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by kedeojo(m): 9:06am On Jan 26
FreedomfromtheT:
The Muslim North were instrumental to the controversial emergence of President Tinubu in 2023 as the president of Nigeria.
However, they seem to have become disillusioned.
From indications, majority of the Muslim North are currently not happy with hiim.
They largely view his policies with suspicion or as outrightly anti-North.
The vast majority of Nigerians irrespective of tribe, religion, religion or party affiliation are complaining due to the policies of the present APC Tinubu administration.
So his best bet is the crude politics of divide and rule - demonstate that you love some Nigerians more than others. Those that feel loved especially those who hate the marginazed easily thus fall for the manipulation.
IMO and obviously, president Tinubu has shown barefacedly that his government is Yoruba first, some others, second, the North third and the despised Southeast last.
The only way to have a remote chance of unsitting president Tinubu is through a united opposition.
If the North presents a fellow northerner as the candidate of the opposition, Tinubu will whip up the regional " it is the turn of the South" sentimental card and he will win in conjunction with part of the North central because as seen before the core North alone cannot produce the president despite their population.
The only way to unsit president Tinubu in my opinion, is to support another southerner with an overwhelming support and agreement with the North.
Of course, the North knows what to do if the new Southern president disappoints as they did in 2015 in conjunction with the Southwest.
But should the North allow president Tinubu to get a second term when he would not need any more votes from anyone, the crying now of the North I think would turn to bitter wailing because he would not care by then.
I expect the president and his handlers to keep telling the North that it would remain just 4 more years and that he will hand over to them.
But from the president Tinubu's current body langin my candid opinion, judging from his body language, you never can tell if the North will recover from the policies he would radically engineer if allowed to have his way of winning a second term in office.
A word is enough for the wise North.


Igbo boy who want the north to support Obi an Igbo, after many years of insult. They gat no trust for you people. They will only use him as vice to Atiku. The Yorubas who you people accused of slavery to the north and same things you want to do even as vice. Una really low oh
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by kedeojo(m): 9:39am On Jan 26
helinues:
grin cheesy

The main opposition in North are Core North West people. Inside that same North West, the likes of Southern Kaduna ( New established government facilities) and reasonable number of the christian in North would fall in line with this government. Infact in the same Northwest, na to just sponsor 2 popular candidates from the region to scatter the votes.

North Central have been an ally for long, we are still keeping the friendship

The vice president is from North East, even if the likes of Atiku emerged from there, votes would be dragged.

Wike, Akpabio and more defection from South South would secure the votes in the region

South West is already in the bad, the rest of the votes, we don't need it.
leave them. All Tinubu need, is to make a vow to the Northern Christians of picking is successor among them. We south south appreciate good and repay with good. If the refineries continues to function very well till next election and the Calabar section of the coaster road constructed or reach a reasonable level, then Tinubu will sweep south south. We don't antagonize like those people. Even when Buhari built the second niger bridge they cried for many years under pdp they supported with full chest, they still didn't praise him. We don't do that cos Jonathan failed us about the refineries and now seeing them back to life and the person who made it possible now ask for support, we will give him.
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by kedeojo(m): 9:48am On Jan 26
funshint:
Tinubu has succeeded in breaking the hegemony of the North. The Middle Belt will vote for him massively because they've not experienced this level of relative peace they have now for more than the past 20years. His body language and actions security-wise has been favourable to them. Tinubu's vote will come mainly from SW, MB, some part of NE and SS. And he'll soon get PDP under his control so much Atiku won't appear as their flag bearer. I hope he'll be wise enough to change the current INEC chairman or else he'll betray him. The north think they understand "dirty" politics; Tinubu will teach them the politics they do not know.
INEC chairman tenure will end before 2027 election and he should just put a Yoruba man as replacement or a trusted south south. Any of the two region are okay.
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by kedeojo(m): 9:53am On Jan 26
Streetinvestor2:
Ewu.Did the Southerner kaduna vote him in the last election. Is it by pronouncement that university is proposed like the lagos-calabar Road.what stage is the university now.Whr in SS state is work going on for the road.The Road is just for lagos and SW states.How many states did he succeed in rigging in North central in the last election. The Christians in the North with large number of igbos never voted him in the last election. The North East governors are not fan of TPain which they have made clear ,the senators.etc
Wike is finished in rivers. Akpabio was allowed to carry Senate under apc because the governor did not want to embarrass him.The state is completely pdp. It was only him that worn anything under apc in his state
The igbos in lagos and SW will not vote him
In SE his is not even seen as human..lol

It is finished. The other 2 North is whr the voting power of North has always been. And have shown they are done with him in the last protest he was arresting minors.
Let see how SW can continue to make him SW president. He can only succeed in making seyi lagos governor as lagos is his family property.
The only thing he can grab and run away this time is remi but not 2027 election .If he tries it nigeria will burn.
And trump government is not looking to be that useless sleepy Joe government that hide the truth about him
Chestbeaters. Why did you people not burn Nigeria when Nmandi kanu was picked and imprisoned as promised by you people. Fear fear people. Tinubu will be reelected. Refineries in south south has started functioning and that will secure vote for him, if it continues till then.
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by kedeojo(m): 10:05am On Jan 26
mrvitalis:

Lmaooo he can write results but to get legitimate votes of igbos? Nah we don't vote failures
Your votes are inconsequential. You don't vote failure and have the worst set of governors since 1999. The first governor in Nigeria that his political party denied second term for non performance was mbaniju of Anambra state. Pdp denied him the ticket then. Google for more clarification.
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by funshint(m): 10:08am On Jan 26
kedeojo:
INEC chairman tenure will end before 2027 election and he should just put a Yoruba man as replacement or a trusted south south. Any of the two region are okay.
I'd prefer a christian from Middle Belt
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by kedeojo(m): 10:09am On Jan 26
franchasofficia:
OP, I am an unapologetic Peter Obi supporter, but Tinubu will win 2027 Presidential election if God keeps him alive and healthy till then.


Let me be honest with you, Bola Tinubu is very good in playing Nigeria's dirty politics. His ownership of Lagos state cemented his grip on Nigeria's politics. So long as Lagos state is in Tinubu's pocket, Tinubu will control Nigeria as he wishes.


If you want to destabilize Nigeria, just destabilize Lagos state.


If you want to destabilize any Nigerian federal government, capture Lagos.


Now to your argument, Tinubu have succeeded in dismantling Northern political influence. Tinubu has retired all the influential Northern politicians that poses a threat to him in 2027. Atiku is just a corpse waiting for burial, he does not have any weight again, he missed his time in 2019.


Peter Obi's influence is dying down, the youths wanted a radical change in 2023 and they followed Peter Obi massively, reason Peter Obi won that 2023 Presidential election but Tinubu was so daring, so brave and prepared he snatched it and ran away without consequences because the sitting President was just confused on who to support; Buhari wanted Ahmed Lawan, but El Rufai, Aisha Buhari his wife and some close allies worked on him to let the power remain in APC than slip into PDP's hands if the APC ticket is handed to Ahmed Lawan, from then, Buhari allowed Tinubu to have his way.



So that rare opportunity Peter Obi had, that Obidient wave cant repeat again because Nigerian youths have seen that voting alone cant produce President of Nigeria, INEC, Judiciary and the incumbent President decides who wins at the end, so many Nigerians that voted Peter Obi wont waste their time and energy again because they know that Peter Obi cant fight the war that comes after the election to secure their vote, so they wouldn't want to risk it, meaning Peter Obi will have fewer votes than he had in 2023 if he runs again of which he wont run anyway.



Once Tinubu declares for 2027, he will win, not necessarily by votes, but by brazen rigging (he is installing the rigging mercenaries already) and nothing will happen, the North will be confused and calm waiting for their own turn come 2031 to revenge whatever that happened between 2023 to 2031.


How the election result will go if Tinubu runs under APC, Atiku under PDP.


Tinubu will win SW landslide
Tinubu will get above 20% in NW
Tinubu will get above 28% in NE
Tinubu will get above 25% in SS
Tinubu will get above 28% in MB
Tinubu will get 10 to 15% in SE


Atiku will win NE
Atiku will slightly win NW
Atiku will get above 20% in SE
Atiku will get above 20% in SS
Atiku will get less than 15% in SW
Atiku will get less than 20% in MB


At the end, Tinubu will win by massive rigging.



The only way the election can prove difficult for Tinubu in 2027 is if Northern Nigeria make a decisive decision on time and rally their top political big weights like Atiku, Kwankwaso, El Rufai, etc to come to a round table and join one party and then swallow their pride and fully support Peter Obi with an agreement of one tenure.


Then they present Peter Obi as flagbearer and Kwankwaso as Vice.


If they can do this before mid 2026, and start massive campaign against Tinubu and his failing government in core north using pure Hausa radio channels, Mosques, etc, that is the only way Tinubu can be challenged and the only way to make the rigging very difficult for Tinubu, anything less, Tinubu will win landslide, and I dont see those Northern guys with overbloated ego coming together and rallying behind Peter Obi, so in summary, Tinubu is winning a reelection come 2027, Nigerians should prepare for it.
For your information, Obi didn't win 2023 election. He failed in the core north. Imagine him getting less than 50k in Kano and other states. He didn't win south west and north central cos Tinubu won both.

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Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by mrvitalis(m): 10:47am On Jan 26
kedeojo:
Your votes are inconsequential. You don't vote failure and have the worst set of governors since 1999. The first governor in Nigeria that his political party denied second term for non performance was mbaniju of Anambra state. Pdp denied him the ticket then. Google for more clarification.
Ikpeazu is the worst governor in South East... I have challenged you guys

Ekiti ans osun governors vs ikpeazu

For each project u present from those two states I present 2 ikpeazu did... Let's see who runs out of projevt first

For 3 years now none of you want to take this challenge
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by sapele914(m): 11:12am On Jan 26
FreedomfromtheT:
The Muslim North were instrumental to the controversial emergence of President Tinubu in 2023 as the president of Nigeria.
However, they seem to have become disillusioned.
From indications, majority of the Muslim North are currently not happy with hiim.
They largely view his policies with suspicion or as outrightly anti-North.
The vast majority of Nigerians irrespective of tribe, religion, religion or party affiliation are complaining due to the policies of the present APC Tinubu administration.
So his best bet is the crude politics of divide and rule - demonstate that you love some Nigerians more than others. Those that feel loved especially those who hate the marginazed easily thus fall for the manipulation.
IMO and obviously, president Tinubu has shown barefacedly that his government is Yoruba first, some others, second, the North third and the despised Southeast last.
The only way to have a remote chance of unsitting president Tinubu is through a united opposition.
If the North presents a fellow northerner as the candidate of the opposition, Tinubu will whip up the regional " it is the turn of the South" sentimental card and he will win in conjunction with part of the North central because as seen before the core North alone cannot produce the president despite their population.
The only way to unsit president Tinubu in my opinion, is to support another southerner with an overwhelming support and agreement with the North.
Of course, the North knows what to do if the new Southern president disappoints as they did in 2015 in conjunction with the Southwest.
But should the North allow president Tinubu to get a second term when he would not need any more votes from anyone, the crying now of the North I think would turn to bitter wailing because he would not care by then.
I expect the president and his handlers to keep telling the North that it would remain just 4 more years and that he will hand over to them.
But from the president Tinubu's current body langin my candid opinion, judging from his body language, you never can tell if the North will recover from the policies he would radically engineer if allowed to have his way of winning a second term in office.
A word is enough for the wise North.


Whether Yourself or the so called imaginary North that you purportedly mentioned likes it or not, President Tinubu is coming back in 2027 unopposed.
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by FreedomfromtheT: 11:36am On Jan 26
Typing:



If Tinubu is not afraid of anyone as you claimed, why didn't he pass the Yoruba tax bill he brought since October last year? Tinubu is just like every Yoruba man.
Fear na their second name
Perhaps he wants to get a second term before implementing the tax bill.
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by FreedomfromtheT: 11:38am On Jan 26
sapele914:
Whether Yourself or the so called imaginary North that you purportedly mentioned likes it or not, President Tinubu is coming back in 2027 unopposed.
Let's see how it goes.
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by FreedomfromtheT: 11:41am On Jan 26
kedeojo:
Igbo boy who want the north to support Obi an Igbo, after many years of insult. They gat no trust for you people. They will only use him as vice to Atiku. The Yorubas who you people accused of slavery to the north and same things you want to do even as vice. Una really low oh
Yoruba man, I can see that the North trust you people and president Tinubu.
By what president Tinubu is doing, I think the North now know better who to trust between Yorubas and Igbos.
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by FreedomfromtheT: 11:43am On Jan 26
IfyfastX:


Hyneck will need to run shit for him up North bcus na there the numbers full of uneducated niggas boku, but what if the big wits up North decides not to play Abi nor be them Hyneck go use rig for T-pain the most clueless FAILURE from the pit of hell the Country has ever known??
So you now know that you cannot minus 'Highneck'.
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by FreedomfromtheT: 11:44am On Jan 26
IfyfastX:


T-pain... The greatest curse to befall the Country since inception 😁😁.
Can you please explain?
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by Honor10: 12:47pm On Jan 26
franchasofficia:
You are not entirely correct. You are being intentionally bias and callous in your opinion.


After the civil war ended in 1970, Northern Nigeria and Southwest entered into a secret political alliance/agreement never to allow Igbos near power; be it Presidency, military, Police, Judiciary, etc as a way of keeping them away from making another attempt of seceding from Nigeria. That was why they never appointed an Igbo man CJN or COAS or IGP, except the Igbos from Niger Delta who saw the handwriting on the wall and started to deny and distance themselves from Southeast Igbos so as not to limit themselves politically and in civil service in Nigeria after the civil war.



From there, Northern Military guys held sway in Nigeria unchallenged because it was Igbos that kept them at bay, with Igbos now defeated after the civil war, they had no challenger or threat again, Yorubas are good in pretentious worship and followership to get what they want, so they followed the North judiciously as these Northern Military guys used the opportunity to balkanize Old Eastern Nigeria and only the super corrupt Igbo politicians who damned the consequences and joined them in holding Igbos down were exalted to federal political limelight, making it seem like Igbos lacked quality politicians.


Infrastructures in Southeast were neglected, crude oil sites in Southeast were ceded to neighboring Southsouth states like Rivers, Akwa Ibom just to make sure Southeast remained economically defeated.


Every tangible federal government agency, bodies, infrastructure were being concentrated in Lagos, Abuja and few in Portharcourt to spite Igbos as they made sure they created an identity crises and enmity between Niger Delta Igbos and Southeast Igbos.



All these and more made Southeast a forgotten region despite Igbo peoples resilience. It was mostly on self development and community development headed by Igbo sons who managed to breakthrough abroad and outside Southeast via trade, business and industry that Southeast region and communities started witnessing progress in road construction, community healthcare, markets, townhall, etc.


This is the beginning of Igbo peoples problem and why Southeast does not have much developmental prospect compared to Southwest, North and Southsouth.


Nigeria is not a manufacturing nation, we are mostly a consuming and import dependent nation, and the most viable seaports were in Southwest and Southsouth which the Northern Military guys made sure they destroyed the Southsouth seaports viability to sabotage Igbos and gradually Lagos ports became the all in all, making it compulsory for every serious business person in Nigeria to site his business in Lagos as those critical government infrastructures, agencies and embassies concentrated in Lagos, so you need to site your business close to the market and where there is population to patronize you.


From the overpopulation happening in Lagos, it began to trickle down to Ogun state the neighboring state, down to Oyo naturally. This was how Southwest became the epicenter of trade and commerce in Nigeria till date and now it's not going to be easy to dismantle unless Nigeria completely disintegrates and that is why Yorubas abhor the idea of Nigeria dividing even though some of them dont like Fulani people and their violent ways and political dominance, but they prefer a united Nigeria where they still use cunning and treacherous politics of gangup to outshine the Southeast than have their own independent nation which they fear of its future.




Now saying Southeast have never had good Governors is not true. We have had wonderful Governors but not consistently, all thanks to the corrupt Nigerian electoral and judiciary system controlled by the corrupt Northern leaders and some Yorubas that never wished Igbos well. You saw what happened in Imo state.


I can name some wonderful Governors that once ruled Southeast states.


Ogbonnaya Onu
Onunaka Mbakwe
Peter Obi
Alex Otti is doing well currently
Peter Mbah of Enugu is trying
Sullivan Chime was not too bad
Dave Umahi tried until he became too foolish in his desperate move to become President after he got deceived by Buhari that he was going to hand over to him.


How then can Southeast develop like Southwest and North when North and Yorubas have used politics to destroy Southeast economic viability, reduced the crude oil sites using wicked boundary adjustments, no critical federal infrastructures to attract businesses and investments, always using federal might to elevate the worst of Igbos as Igbo leaders to sabotage Igbos, how and where will the revenue to develop Southeast come from if not through self help by successful Igbo sons and daughters like us going home to build good houses, pave community roads, build markets, healthcare centers, townhalls, etc. Or what else did you expect from us? The current insecurity in Southeast was brought upon Southeast by Buhari's evil regime and sustained by APC under Tinubu, we are helpless but help will come, yes tears may endure for the night but joy must come in the morning. God is not sleeping, He will shock you haters of Igbos hating Igbos unjustly.


I can go on and on, but let me stop here for now


Old man, stop crying. You have been crying all over the thread. Victim mentality has damaged your brain.
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by franchasofficia: 12:52pm On Jan 26
YoshihideSuga:

You are very correct about the bold. But I wonder why they fear an independent Biafra? It would favour everyone to have their own country.
Yorubas are scared of the unknown future of an Oodua nation without the free crude oil from Niger Delta which they have been enjoying massively via political gangup and enablement with Hausa-Fulanis since the end of civil war in 1970.


They know that running a successful Oodua Nation without Niger Delta crude oil will be difficult for them, so it's fear of the unknown that's making them jittery about Nigeria dividing. They prefer the current arrangement whereby their region; Lagos is the epicenter of commerce in Nigeria enjoying all sorts of federal government policies, infrastructures and attention.
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by GoodLife4live: 10:37am On Jan 28
franchasofficia:
You are not entirely correct. You are being intentionally bias and callous in your opinion.


After the civil war ended in 1970, Northern Nigeria and Southwest entered into a secret political alliance/agreement never to allow Igbos near power; be it Presidency, military, Police, Judiciary, etc as a way of keeping them away from making another attempt of seceding from Nigeria. That was why they never appointed an Igbo man CJN or COAS or IGP, except the Igbos from Niger Delta who saw the handwriting on the wall and started to deny and distance themselves from Southeast Igbos so as not to limit themselves politically and in civil service in Nigeria after the civil war.



From there, Northern Military guys held sway in Nigeria unchallenged because it was Igbos that kept them at bay, with Igbos now defeated after the civil war, they had no challenger or threat again, Yorubas are good in pretentious worship and followership to get what they want, so they followed the North judiciously as these Northern Military guys used the opportunity to balkanize Old Eastern Nigeria and only the super corrupt Igbo politicians who damned the consequences and joined them in holding Igbos down were exalted to federal political limelight, making it seem like Igbos lacked quality politicians.


Infrastructures in Southeast were neglected, crude oil sites in Southeast were ceded to neighboring Southsouth states like Rivers, Akwa Ibom just to make sure Southeast remained economically defeated.


Every tangible federal government agency, bodies, infrastructure were being concentrated in Lagos, Abuja and few in Portharcourt to spite Igbos as they made sure they created an identity crises and enmity between Niger Delta Igbos and Southeast Igbos.



All these and more made Southeast a forgotten region despite Igbo peoples resilience. It was mostly on self development and community development headed by Igbo sons who managed to breakthrough abroad and outside Southeast via trade, business and industry that Southeast region and communities started witnessing progress in road construction, community healthcare, markets, townhall, etc.


This is the beginning of Igbo peoples problem and why Southeast does not have much developmental prospect compared to Southwest, North and Southsouth.


Nigeria is not a manufacturing nation, we are mostly a consuming and import dependent nation, and the most viable seaports were in Southwest and Southsouth which the Northern Military guys made sure they destroyed the Southsouth seaports viability to sabotage Igbos and gradually Lagos ports became the all in all, making it compulsory for every serious business person in Nigeria to site his business in Lagos as those critical government infrastructures, agencies and embassies concentrated in Lagos, so you need to site your business close to the market and where there is population to patronize you.


From the overpopulation happening in Lagos, it began to trickle down to Ogun state the neighboring state, down to Oyo naturally. This was how Southwest became the epicenter of trade and commerce in Nigeria till date and now it's not going to be easy to dismantle unless Nigeria completely disintegrates and that is why Yorubas abhor the idea of Nigeria dividing even though some of them dont like Fulani people and their violent ways and political dominance, but they prefer a united Nigeria where they still use cunning and treacherous politics of gangup to outshine the Southeast than have their own independent nation which they fear of its future.




Now saying Southeast have never had good Governors is not true. We have had wonderful Governors but not consistently, all thanks to the corrupt Nigerian electoral and judiciary system controlled by the corrupt Northern leaders and some Yorubas that never wished Igbos well. You saw what happened in Imo state.


I can name some wonderful Governors that once ruled Southeast states.


Ogbonnaya Onu
Onunaka Mbakwe
Peter Obi
Alex Otti is doing well currently
Peter Mbah of Enugu is trying
Sullivan Chime was not too bad
Dave Umahi tried until he became too foolish in his desperate move to become President after he got deceived by Buhari that he was going to hand over to him.


How then can Southeast develop like Southwest and North when North and Yorubas have used politics to destroy Southeast economic viability, reduced the crude oil sites using wicked boundary adjustments, no critical federal infrastructures to attract businesses and investments, always using federal might to elevate the worst of Igbos as Igbo leaders to sabotage Igbos, how and where will the revenue to develop Southeast come from if not through self help by successful Igbo sons and daughters like us going home to build good houses, pave community roads, build markets, healthcare centers, townhalls, etc. Or what else did you expect from us? The current insecurity in Southeast was brought upon Southeast by Buhari's evil regime and sustained by APC under Tinubu, we are helpless but help will come, yes tears may endure for the night but joy must come in the morning. God is not sleeping, He will shock you haters of Igbos hating Igbos unjustly.


I can go on and on, but let me stop here for now
Always looking for excuses to Blame others for their failures... Remember, the NC I came from doesn't have as much as southeast..so, tell me why are they doing better than southeast in terms of vat..

Guy move on with your delutionalism

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Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by franchasofficia: 10:56am On Jan 28
GoodLife4live:
Always looking for excuses to Blame others for their failures... Remember, the NC I came from doesn't have as much as southeast..so, tell me why are they doing better than southeast in terms of vat..

Guy move on with your delutionalism
Lol


VAT and tax are not a measure of national or societal development/progress young man.


The Igbo man operate a different business and economic model. We are capitalists, we believe in money being in the hands of individuals than in the hands of corrupt, unreliable government officials who collect tax from people and loot it back for their personal entertainment and enrichment.


There was a thread on the front page of Nairaland yesterday that explained this and also made comparison with foreign nations that collect huge tax from their citizens and those that made their nation a tax haven.



We Igbos honestly don't believe in taxing ourselves to poverty to enrich the corrupt ruling class. The money is better in people's hands and in businesses circulating and raising more financially free entrepreneurs than being in the hands of irresponsible government
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by Didi2d(m): 11:25am On Jan 28
IbnB:
Delusional tongue

If Tinubu wants a second term (and you can be 99.99% sure he does) he will simply have the officials write the results in his favour, Wike-style

There's nothing anybody can do about it, except to get shot and buried secretly, which isn't gonna affect the electoral figures in any way either positive or negative

I was telling someone that tinubu focus will be on presidential and lagos election, that's if seyi will be running for governorship
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by ChiefOkporghe: 12:19pm On Jan 28
IfyfastX:


Loll make God nor let Us see bad thing o😁

Minus the North He is not going to try shit😁.
Those niggas fit scatter everything o, plus the said T-pain is the greatest curse and calamity to befall the Country so the South will definitely be happy to see him pack up and carry his total cluelessness and agberonomics to the hell he came from. It doesn't make any sense for the South to stick Her neck for a man who has stained our name beyond repair by being the greatest FAILURE to befall this Country 😁 if You talk about bubu to Northerners now them go tell you se make You go sit down se bubu na prof for where Tpain dey which is nothing but the truth 😁

The T-pain wey We dey talk about nor get any voltage, minus bubu and Apc who him epp?

Who born him Acn well to win any State outside SW, abi nor be same T-pain wey nor even fit deliver 30% vote for Ribadu for him own Lagos State We dey talk about??

How you now glorify the same North you hate and abuse.
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by GoodLife4live: 4:19pm On Jan 28
franchasofficia:
Lol


VAT and tax are not a measure of national or societal development/progress young man.


The Igbo man operate a different business and economic model. We are capitalists, we believe in money being in the hands of individuals than in the hands of corrupt, unreliable government officials who collect tax from people and loot it back for their personal entertainment and enrichment.


There was a thread on the front page of Nairaland yesterday that explained this and also made comparison with foreign nations that collect huge tax from their citizens and those that made their nation a tax haven.



We Igbos honestly don't believe in taxing ourselves to poverty to enrich the corrupt ruling class. The money is better in people's hands and in businesses circulating and raising more financially free entrepreneurs than being in the hands of irresponsible government
bros i gat no time for long discussion....Vat is a consumption taxe... What's that mean is that the purchasing power of people Residing in the eastern part of Nigeria is Poor... that's the reason for the low volume of vat generated there..

The More transactions, More activities of spending the more the value is added...so naa who you dey deceive ?

Guy abeg...I still Sabi something with the little school wey I go....

This does not meant there are more poor People in the east than north central...But , on this ... southeast has poor purchasing power than every other southern region
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by Forkthiefnubu: 4:55pm On Jan 28
helinues:
grin cheesy

The main opposition in North are Core North West people. Inside that same North West, the likes of Southern Kaduna ( New established government facilities) and reasonable number of the christian in North would fall in line with this government. Infact in the same Northwest, na to just sponsor 2 popular candidates from the region to scatter the votes.

North Central have been an ally for long, we are still keeping the friendship

The vice president is from North East, even if the likes of Atiku emerged from there, votes would be dragged.

Wike, Akpabio and more defection from South South would secure the votes in the region

South West is already in the bag, the rest of the votes, we don't need it.
You are on a long thing , the way tninubu will
Land on his head will suprise even him
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by Streetinvestor2: 5:06pm On Jan 28
Forkthiefnubu:

You are on a long thing , the way tninubu will
Land on his head will suprise even him
He lives in his shithole and has not travelled. When it comes to politics. He will learn why they are called arewa.They are always united in national politics. Why is it always that the head of 19 northern states is always someone from minority tribe in the North.Once they meet in kaduna House they always make one front .
The coward SW have decided to be attacking the igbos with all useless thread since the North have been vocally rejecting SW president..They fear the North so much they can not open a thread against the North. You see why they have double face..Dan kolokolo people. They igbo vote is not important. Why don't you attack the people with 5 million vote that is important and made you president which you have turned to SW property

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Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by Streetinvestor2: 5:35pm On Jan 28
Typing:



If Tinubu is not afraid of anyone as you claimed, why didn't he pass the Yoruba tax bill he brought since October last year? Tinubu is just like every Yoruba man.
Fear na their second name
He is yoruba can only bark but can not bite.The north is threatening to remove him 2027.The only thing they come here is to create thread to attack igbos,obi and past coup.The coward can not create a thread to attack thr master the North.what kind of region or human are they.They north will always face her attacker like SE.The SW will instead want to join two heads to gain from the fight.
If he tried standing his ground on that vat.The north will move for Impeachment of SW president. The Senate president won't have done anything
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by franchasofficia: 5:44pm On Jan 28
GoodLife4live:
bros i gat no time for long discussion....Vat is a consumption taxe... What's that mean is that the purchasing power of people Residing in the eastern part of Nigeria is Poor... that's the reason for the low volume of vat generated there..

The More transactions, More activities of spending the more the value is added...so naa who you dey deceive ?

Guy abeg...I still Sabi something with the little school wey I go....

This does not meant there are more poor People in the east than north central...But , on this ... southeast has poor purchasing power than every other southern region
If this conclusion makes you happy then so be it since you dont want to learn


But let me educate you small so you can learn from a professional.


In Southeast, most businesses are run by individuals, enterprises, etc who are mostly informal sector, they don't take VAT collection serious. The Ankara seller, the Aba tailor sewing millions of clothes being exported to even neighboring countries dont care about collecting VAT from his customers to remit to government. He collects only his profit.


But in Lagos for instance, it's a different ball game, my small company has been pushed into collecting VAT for the criminal Nigerian government, which we remit back to them. Southeast government don't bother Eastern businesses about that.


So most businesses in Southeast dont care about collecting VAT as much as Lagos LIRS care about taxing Lagosians to death to enrich Bola Tinubu, his family and political goons.


Hope you got a hint of how it works now?

You young boys on Nairaland should try and be calming down and learn from your experienced elders like us, everything is not about attacking and castigating Igbos. Igbos understand economy more than any other Nigerian tribe. Make Peter Obi President today and watch things turn around positively for Nigeria economically no jokes
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by IfyfastX: 6:31pm On Jan 28
ChiefOkporghe:


How you now glorify the same North you hate and abuse.

You and who hate and abuse the North?? undecided

You got me f"ckedup undecided

Just be say you be hate-filled bigot nor mean se everybody be like dat.
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by Typing: 8:53am On Jan 29
Streetinvestor2:
He is yoruba can only bark but can not bite.The north is threatening to remove him 2027.The only thing they come here is to create thread to attack igbos,obi and past coup.The coward can not create a thread to attack thr master the North.what kind of region or human are they.They north will always face her attacker like SE.The SW will instead want to join two heads to gain from the fight.
If he tried standing his ground on that vat.The north will move for Impeachment of SW president. The Senate president won't have done anything


No mind them. They are cowards.
Re: The North Will Determine If President Tinubu Gets A Second Term by FreedomfromtheT: 6:12pm On Jan 29
Typing:


Keep dreaming. You think Southern Kaduna and North central are immune to Tinubu's hardship? If them born you well, wear Tinubu's Cap enter Southern Kaduna or any State within North central. If you come out alive call me bascard
Hmmmmmmmmm!

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