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Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by Orch1981: 5:21pm On Jan 27
kayperry:




All these brain gymanstic just to save face, that VAT stats must have hit below the belt

How about you substantiate your arguement with development index ... lets see if east region the fastest developing region in Nigeria.

No people in right senses desert fast developing region, reverse is always the case
Remove Lagos from southwest the rest is desert

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Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by Shattuck(m): 5:27pm On Jan 27
Standing5:
It measures productivity.
the reason why the south east isn't generating enough tax, I think is due to the govt laid back attitude on tax collection because if we are talking about productivity the south east should be at the top of that conversation and they are also productive too, I see the recent reports on south east tax collection and how some political ass wipes were using it as a political jab, even they know this truth.

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Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by jaxxy(m): 5:28pm On Jan 27
The tax collector doesn't know anything about the economy just collecting taxes from struggling citizens and mismanaging the public funds.

This why no matter how many inflated road projects they build the economy will not improve.
Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by kayperry: 5:29pm On Jan 27
Orch1981:

Remove Lagos from southwest the rest is desert


OYo contributed more VAT than 3 states put together in the East,

Remove Lagos, SW is still more industrial than the whole of SE

i wish i can say remove one state in the east ... even the 5 together naa parasite if we cum remove one nko

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Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by Ofemannnu: 5:38pm On Jan 27
ariesbull:
it is unfortunate...we should be expecting that SW should be decent , apart from.lagos the other are stuck in the 1970s
lol
You are all about mouth.
Only talk without substance.
If dem born you well,post videos of all your 5 SE states.Let us see if Ibadan will not trump them all.
Everybody knows that only Ibadan city is more developed than the entire Igboland.

SW states pay more tax and have more IGR because they are the richest region with the highest number of naira and dollar billionaires in Nigeria.


It will be disheartening if they don't pay tax more than a poor region like the SE because the SW people have the...

Highest number of business people,doctors,lawyers,Engineers,ICT gurus,Real Estate practitioners,the richest musicians in Africa,the richest Nollywood practitioners,the richest educationists,the richest education centres etc.
Even the richest religious centres and richest pastors and founders in Africa.

If they don't pay tax and have highest IGR and VAT more than the SE,then there is something wrong somewhere.

SW has always been the most productive region of Nigeria
If that is not clear enough,Yoruba people are the only dollar billionaires abroad and they are the only people who have massive multi billion dollar businesses abroad.

As much as I respect the Igbos,they haven't gotten up to the stage of comparing themselves with the hardworking,smart entrepreneurial acumen of the Yorubas.
Each people are good in their different fields but Yorubas have always been the leading light.

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Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by Orch1981: 5:44pm On Jan 27
kayperry:



OYo contributed more VAT than 3 states put together in the East,

Remove Lagos, SW is still more industrial than the whole of SE

i wish i can say remove one state in the east ... even the 5 together naa parasite if we cum remove one nko
And where is the development in oyo the brown roof republic

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Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by Ofemannnu: 5:49pm On Jan 27
Orch1981:

And where is the development in oyo the brown roof republic
Ibadan is more developed than the entire SE.
Oyo doesn't just say it,they show it.

These are a few videos of Ibadan that is more developed than the entire SE Igboland.


Ibadan.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKiFOlQLD9Q



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me5cTJ__o_A




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32VZT99kUQE

OLUYOLE.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0mpaAoK1Do

Olivia Ilozue talk on few properties in ibadan



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH3VN1ZbJZw


Westlink Iconic Villa ibadan





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwGG5sAyc3k


One of the commercial hubs in ibadan....AKALA EXPRESS.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqRvFnQWafM





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqnps1-093M





https://www.youtub xxcxe.com/watch?v=ftA8UOWBR2M






Alalubosa



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5RITI0SIL4

Tiger Mini Estate



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-meSSVDK_c?si=5UPq90q9FmNn2yL9

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Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by Orch1981: 5:50pm On Jan 27
kayperry:



OYo contributed more VAT than 3 states put together in the East,

Remove Lagos, SW is still more industrial than the whole of SE

i wish i can say remove one state in the east ... even the 5 together naa parasite if we cum remove one nko
Bring your tàx make we shop am clean mouth we no dey tax our people to death

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Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by Ofemannnu: 5:51pm On Jan 27
Ofemannnu:

Ibadan is more developed than the entire SE.
Oyo doesn't just say it,they show it.

These are a few videos of Ibadan that is more developed than the entire SE Igboland.


Ibadan.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKiFOlQLD9Q



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me5cTJ__o_A




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32VZT99kUQE

OLUYOLE.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0mpaAoK1Do

Olivia Ilozue talk on few properties in ibadan



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH3VN1ZbJZw


Westlink Iconic Villa ibadan





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwGG5sAyc3k


One of the commercial hubs in ibadan....AKALA EXPRESS.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqRvFnQWafM





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqnps1-093M





https://www.youtub xxcxe.com/watch?v=ftA8UOWBR2M


Tiger Mini Estate



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-meSSVDK_c?si=5UPq90q9FmNn2yL9
Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by Orch1981: 5:54pm On Jan 27
Ofemannnu:

Ibadan is more developed than the entire SE.
Oyo doesn't just say it,they show it.

These are a few videos of Ibadan that is more developed than the entire SE Igboland.


Ibadan.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKiFOlQLD9Q



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me5cTJ__o_A




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32VZT99kUQE

OLUYOLE.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0mpaAoK1Do

Olivia Ilozue talk on few properties in ibadan



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH3VN1ZbJZw


Westlink Iconic Villa ibadan





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwGG5sAyc3k


One of the commercial hubs in ibadan....AKALA EXPRESS.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqRvFnQWafM





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqnps1-093M





https://www.youtub xxcxe.com/watch?v=ftA8UOWBR2M






Alalubosa



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5RITI0SIL4

Tiger Mini Estate



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-meSSVDK_c?si=5UPq90q9FmNn2yL9
Show the brown roof area
Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by kayperry: 5:59pm On Jan 27
Orch1981:

And where is the development in oyo the brown roof republic


OYO is ancient state, so it understandable the brown roof you see her people ancenstral home intentionally reserved

There are so many new location/ site in OYo/ibadan with ultra modern structures, i am a lagos boy all my life but i enjoyed my stay in ibadan, i only miss lagos hustle nd the rush.
VAT measure productivity, and productivity denotes industrialization, now enter google lookup the connection btwn development and industrialization undecided olodo clan

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Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by seguno2: 6:03pm On Jan 27
ariesbull:


Mathew Ojo

Where was this taken from

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Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by kayperry: 6:06pm On Jan 27
Orch1981:

Bring your tàx make we shop am clean mouth we no dey tax our people to death



Mumu talk, so it now bring una tax, it is no longer naa una papa build Lagos

You cant afford to tax igbos in East cos thats like serving poison .. the real market is in the west, despite the heavy tax SW chukwudi is planning to sell is father farm land to come start okirika trade in lagos or ibadan

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Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by 43Ronin: 6:08pm On Jan 27
Panda7:
If not for selfish reasons who would keep Nigeria with its current state together. Yoruba people want to constantly rub off the south south else the south gains nothing being in Nigeria
It's one nigeria that keeping the yorubaland & hausaland from being a somalia or Congo DR after disintegration. Yorubas cannot leave in peace with each other. Remember it was awolowo that united them under SW even at that they still had ife-modakeke war. Now they will use religious terrorism to destroy themselves if naija disintegrates
Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by BreconHills(m): 6:15pm On Jan 27
ariesbull:
productivity isn't equal to development


Some villages are known for fishing.... that is productivity but that doesn't mean the village is developed

What is development? Health, education, infrastructure, ( productive assets not mansions) Trust in institutions. Can you add to this so that we can have a framework to discuss?
Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by Kay25(m): 6:16pm On Jan 27
EasternActivist:
Op they know this, they just want to gaslight the southeast.

Upon all their high vat collected and generated it's expected that ibadan should purge it self of brown roofs retardation unlike what Is obtained in southeast.
Rubbishhhh talk...eveb if tax doesn't define development how is south east coping is are the states doing fine?
Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by Kay25(m): 6:17pm On Jan 27
43Ronin:

It's one nigeria that keeping the yorubaland & hausaland from being a somalia or Congo DR after disintegration. Yorubas cannot leave in peace with each other. Remember it was awolowo that united them under SW even at that they still had ife-modakeke war. Now they will use religious terrorism to destroy themselves if naija disintegrates
Same way igbos do sit at home on Mondays and kill each other's..ode

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Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by Kay25(m): 6:18pm On Jan 27
ariesbull:
do you know that many companies in Lagos don't have signpost of their companies in Lagos ...and they hide their operations

Do you know why? They don't want their taxation which is too much. Go to East ,you see companies putting up their billboards and signage confidently cos they know they aren't overtaxed
Oga na rubbish u dey talk the companies in East aren't productive ni
Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by Chiefoh2: 6:24pm On Jan 27
ariesbull:


Mathew Ojo

This writer need knowledge

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Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by agentarcher(m): 6:41pm On Jan 27
The major issue with SE is accountability. They rather blame others for their misfortune than admit fault.

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Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by djon78(m): 6:46pm On Jan 27
Ofemannnu:

lol
You are all about mouth.
Only talk without substance.
If dem born you well,post videos of all your 5 SE states.Let us see if Ibadan will not trump them all.
Everybody knows that only Ibadan city is more developed than the entire Igboland.

SW states pay more tax and have more IGR because they are the richest region with the highest number of naira and dollar billionaires in Nigeria.


It will be disheartening if they don't pay tax more than a poor region like the SE because the SW:

Highest number of business people,doctors,lawyers,Engineers,ICT gurus,Real Estate practitioners,the richest musicians in Africa,the richest Nollywood practitioners,the richest educationists,the richest education centres etc.
Even the richest religious centres and richest pastors and founders in Africa.

If they don't pay tax and have highest IGR and VAT more than the SE,then there is something wrong somewhere.

SW has always been the most productive region of Nigeria
If that is not clear enough,Yoruba people are the only dollar billionaires abroad and they are the only people who have massive multi billion dollar businesses abroad.

As much as I respect the Igbos,they haven't gotten up to the stage of comparing themselves with the hardworking,smart entrepreneurial acumen of the Yorubas.
Each people are good in their different fields but Yorubas have always been the leading light.



So who is really comparing or measuring d.icks
Leading light? Na you sabi that One
If una like keep on measuring d.icks
Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by Irony1: 6:49pm On Jan 27
helinues:
They can never ever take responsibility. Just because the records indicated that a particular region VAT collection is the lowest, they have resorted to blaming game, goal post shifting.

A state with low VAT collection means that state is unproductive

These are the same people who claimed foreign investment is bullshit, now that the VAT collection have exposed their unproductivity, they want to be coming up with as usual flimsy excuse

Oga take correction and stop being dense. The real indicator of productivity and wealth distribution is GDP and Per Capita Income. Anambra just one state in SE has a GDP and Per Capita Income higher than Ogun, Osun, Ondo, Oyo and Ekiti. Try and have sense.

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Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by Irony1: 6:50pm On Jan 27
Standing5:
CheckOgun and Oyo figures again.

Anambra has a better GDP than Ogun and Oyo
Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by Irony1: 6:51pm On Jan 27
GBTYO:


Those villages are more sustainable to their resident fishermen than your entire SE as the people have a guaranteed and sustainable income from fishing.

This is why most other Nigerians do not see reason to flee their enclaves . Wealth is within their grasp.

And how do you measure development ? Is it by building mansions in one dead village in your SE that you only visit once or twice a year to attend a cultural event?

The fishing canoe in a typical Ijaw riverine coastal village earns revenue for the owner than your lizard and rat occupied village mansions.

If the SE is truly an engine room of commerce and trade , why are you lot not reinvesting back into it? How many times has there been a SE business forum that has been convened by your elite to call for investing into the SE and how come you guys never heed the call to do so?

Just looking at internal migration trend , you will see that the SE has been experiencing a net negative trend since the day Lugard yoked us all into one contraption compared to every other region.

There's a reason you guys left your villages, states and region.

Oga you are really pained. Just go and rest you go dey alright, Truth is a bitter pill to swallow
Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by Irony1: 6:52pm On Jan 27
GBTYO:


That's SS to complain and not you.

Besides when SS were doing their agitation for resource control your SE politicians sided with the north against their demands and at no time did SS ever call for your help in their agitation.

SS will be ok of we get 50% but we know that you ibos will align with same north you have been castigating to oppose true restructuring.


When this VAT and Tax reform thing started , I stated categorically why SE will oppose it and it was down to the fact that you earn far more than you contribute from federal handouts.

When Lagos and Rivers secured a joint vat ruling to stop the FG from collecting VAT and successfully argued that it wa a responsibility of states to do so, your governors in the SE were all silent.


Now breeze don blow fowl yansh.

You see you don't know how to lie. SE politicians supported the Tax Bill. The real opposition was from the north. Fear God and stop lying.
Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by Irony1: 6:54pm On Jan 27
Standing5:
There is o. Just wait until Lagos Ogun and Oyo start coming up with environmental excuses to intercept those profit they are sharing with parasitic regions.

Be careful what you wish for. Most of the VAT accrued to Lagos is because of the HQs in Lagos. If it done according to consumption it will reduce marginally.

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Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by Omoawoke(m): 6:54pm On Jan 27
Thread for wailers and losers

If not this, if not that is their slogan… but they are consistent losers in all ramifications

Spits!!!

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Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by Irony1: 6:57pm On Jan 27
GBTYO:


Your SE only comes alive for 2 weeks every year during the Christmas holidays.

The low vat earnings from the SE expose low consumption levels and a lack of commercial activities.

Low tax earnings is because there is hardly any real formal sector . Your business model is petty trade that falls under the disorganised and grey sector of the economy.

Solodu has been bemoaning his inability to effectively tax businesses in his state and even declared that majority of what the state gets as revenue is from the federal purse and if he had to share to every man, woman and child in Anambra as it comes every month, it won't amount to more than #1,500 per head.

Real development is driven by taxes that are generated from a healthy commercial and economic base.

You have none of this and that's why even the north you were labelling parasites generate more from their own economic activities than your entire region.


There's nothing in the SE and your net negative migration proves this

Wait first. You need help oooo, you are really mentally not okay. A region that has the largest market in West Africa, that has traders coming from as far as Equatorial guinea, Cameroon, Burkina Faso, Niger and Chad to trade is where you are saying there is nothing.

GDP wise Anambra has a better GDP than Ogun, Oyo, Osun, Ondo and Ekiti. Note that any place where the GDP is low and IGR is high that the taxation burden is heavy on its citizens. Try and have sense for once.

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Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by Irony1: 7:00pm On Jan 27
Ofemannnu:

Ibadan is more developed than the entire SE.
Oyo doesn't just say it,they show it.

These are a few videos of Ibadan that is more developed than the entire SE Igboland.


Ibadan.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKiFOlQLD9Q



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me5cTJ__o_A




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32VZT99kUQE

OLUYOLE.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0mpaAoK1Do

Olivia Ilozue talk on few properties in ibadan



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH3VN1ZbJZw


Westlink Iconic Villa ibadan





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwGG5sAyc3k


One of the commercial hubs in ibadan....AKALA EXPRESS.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqRvFnQWafM





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqnps1-093M





https://www.youtub xxcxe.com/watch?v=ftA8UOWBR2M






Alalubosa



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5RITI0SIL4

Tiger Mini Estate



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-meSSVDK_c?si=5UPq90q9FmNn2yL9

Oga shut up and stop doing this dick measuring. Last year's GDP assessment of states shows Anambra having better GDP than Ogun, Oyo, Osun, Ondo and Ekiti.
The picture you showed of Ibadan, Enugu still bests it.

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Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by Irony1: 7:01pm On Jan 27
Kay25:

Same way igbos do sit at home on Mondays and kill each other's..ode

But in terms of GDP and Per Capita income. The states in the SE are doing better than SW. The only exception is Lagos which belongs to everyone.

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Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by Mandate1: 7:05pm On Jan 27
helinues:
They can never ever take responsibility. Just because the records indicated that a particular region VAT collection is the lowest, they have resorted to blaming game, goal post shifting.

A state with low VAT collection means that state is unproductive

These are the same people who claimed foreign investment is bullshit, now that the VAT collection have exposed their unproductivity, they want to be coming up with as usual flimsy excuse
top ten states with the highest standard of living in Nigeria, Eastern states dominates the list. Taxation is not everything.

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Re: Why VAT And Taxes Don’t Define Development! by Mandate1: 7:07pm On Jan 27
GBTYO:
This is the inverted reasoning that plagues these people from the yeast.

Paraventure you are granted leave to go and form your Bifra with its contiguous five SE states, will you be saying this rubbish ?

Aside the huge VAT surplus you get that isn't generated from your state's, you also get federal funded projects and benefit from oil receipts from majorly SS states.

The north is the undisputed food basket not only in Nigeria but West and Central Africa.

Now imagine you are in your Biafra tax haven, how will you pay for food imports from northern Nigeria ?

Are you aware that agriculture which the north dominates contributes hugely to our GDP and sustainable growth sector ?


Be coping.
3 out of 5 South Eastern states are part of the Niger Delta. So what are u talking about?

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