Dougad:
I'm as Islamophobic as they come but I don't know how you can read about the history of the Israel-Gaza war without being sympathetic to the cause of the Palestinians.

Fûck Trump!

smokinloud:

I've refuted this claim. It was even the first I refuted. Stop drinking camel's urine.
You don't even understand the bible verses you're pasting here. You go to someone else's work and you copy the verses then you paste it here, that's why you can't even engage me further on the verse, you just go to copy another bible verses and then paste it, because you don't understand the bible verses you're quoting. You're just a dumb copy and paste machine. I still remember it was the first claim I refuted on February 5.

AntilsIam:


Iya e ati baba e loni isoro

smokinloud:

My God is consistent unlike allah who's schizophrenic. There's no forgiveness without sacrifice. Sin separate us from God and the only way way to get back to God is by God's standard. AT-ONE-MENT WITH GOD. THROUGH THE SACRIFICE OF GOD FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END THE GOD OF THE BIBLE IS CONSISTENT. ALLAH DOES NOT HAVE ANY STANDARD TI ADMIT YOU TO HIS JANNAH. NO STANDARD JUST INCONSISTENCY.
HE EVEN PROMISED TO SACRIFICE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS AS YOUR RANSOM FROM HELL. FROM ADAM TO MALACHI, THEY ALL GET TO HEAVEN THROUGH THEIR FAITH IN THE WORD OF GOD (JESUS) JESUS HAD DIED FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD IN THE SPIRIT REALM, HE JUST CAME 2000 YEARS AGO TO CARRY-OUT WHAT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED FROM THE SPIRIT REALM.
Genesis 15:1,6
[1]After these things the "word of the LORD came" unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward.
[6]And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.

Revelation 13:8
[8]And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the LAMB SLAIN FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD.
Now, let's see how allah needs sacrifice of Jews and Christians before he can forgive which is INCONSISTENCY. Allah is supposed to forgive you without ransom. Check out the Hadiths below.👇

smokinloud:

You're not only dumb, you're suffering from Schizophrenia. This was your first claim that I refuted. Abduls are generally slow. It was God punishing his own people through his own angels.

Bibleteacher:


🤣 I can now see you are not normal and you have a great problem . I swear

Chei !

Pagan elepee of Nairaland ahaaa .

I only pity your soul 🤣

Bibleteacher:


Why are you so daft like this een ! 🤣

In what you quoted , tell us where Allah asked for blood before he can forgive sins ?

Thank God you know that you god need human sacrifice before he can forgive you 🤣.

Ogun people also need goats 🐐 or hen for blood sacrifice nah .

We call you pagan for a reason .

You will be shocked that Real Jesus will deny you .

Bibleteacher:



🤣🤣 what is this one saying Ahaa

You refuted who ?

Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD’s name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD’s name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)

That is enough for you and show you that you are taking out of sense .

Does your Bible god order for killing ?

yes or no ?

smokinloud:

You're irredeemable Abdul. The law of "TEETH FOR TEETH, AN EYE FOR AN EYE" was changed by our LORD JESUS Christ because it was never the perfect will of God. It's part of the permissive will of God that I told about earlier.
Leviticus 24:16,20
[16]And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the LORD, shall be put to death.
[20]Breach for breach, eye for eye, tooth for tooth: as he hath caused a blemish in a man, so shall it be done to him again.
Matthew 5:38-41
[38]Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
[39]But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
[40]And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.
[41]And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

Your god allah said JESUS had the power to change LAWS.
Surah 3:50: ٥٠ وَمُصَدِّقًا لِمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيَّ مِنَ التَّوْرَاةِ وَلِأُحِلَّ لَكُمْ بَعْضَ الَّذِي حُرِّمَ عَلَيْكُمْ ۚ وَجِئْتُكُمْ بِآيَةٍ مِنْ رَبِّكُمْ فَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ وَأَطِيعُونِ50 And (I come) confirming that which was before me of the Torah, and to MAKE LAWFUL SOME OF THAT WHICH WAS FORBIDDEN UNTO YOU. I come unto you with a sign from your Lord, so keep your duty to Allah and obey me.

IN SUMMARY, THE LAW OF TEETH FOR TEETH AND AN EYE FOR AN EYE WAS CHANGED BY JESUS CHRIST THE GOD OF MUHAMMED. HE CHANGED THAT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT THE PERFECT WILL OF GOD BUT JUST THE PERMISSIVE WILL THAT WAS GIVEN TO THEM AT THAT TIME BECAUSE THEIR HEART WAS STONE HEART.
Matthew 19:8
[8]He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

smokinloud:

lol, allah needs the death (Hell) of JEWS and Christians to save muslims. It's same as blood sacrifice.

Bibleteacher:


It is your god that need sacrifice before he can forgive you . Who will now forgive those that came before Jesus . Think nah 🤣

Read again and open your eyes . Allah did not need blood before he can forgive . He loves you and he will not like you enter hellfire .

Change your ignorant ways before it is late for you .
Your god they nailed on the cross can not save you .


Moreover , Are you tired of your Bible killer verses ?

I still have them here plenty o .

You will explain tire I swear ; you can not defend your manmade war book .

Bibleteacher:



🤣🤣🤣🤣 when I said you know nothing , did I lie ?

Surah 3:50: ٥٠ وَمُصَدِّقًا لِمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيَّ مِنَ التَّوْرَاةِ وَلِأُحِلَّ لَكُمْ بَعْضَ الَّذِي حُرِّمَ عَلَيْكُمْ ۚ وَجِئْتُكُمْ بِآيَةٍ مِنْ رَبِّكُمْ فَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ وَأَطِيعُونِ50 And (I come) confirming that which was before me of the Torah, and to MAKE LAWFUL SOME OF THAT WHICH WAS FORBIDDEN UNTO YOU. I come unto you with a sign from your Lord, so keep your duty to Allah and obey me.

You pagan alway lie🤣

Why are you so daft like this 🤣

Where in the verse stated Jesus can change law?

The verse you quoted even nailed you further . Jesus told you , he is confirming what other prophets preached and he said keep duty to Allah your God , did you personally keep your duty Allah your God?

Instead you keep your duty to a man that was nailed to wood 😂. Dey play nah lolz .


Jesus did not change any law as quoted in the verse you quoted rather , he will fulfill them . And that is what all prophets preached . Na you follower of Paul that claimed your god need blood 🩸 before forgiveness .

Matthew 5:17

Think not that I am come to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.

As you can see Jesus has exposed your lie .


You need deliverance and you need help asap.

I can blame you anyway , pagans can never understand .

smokinloud:

Let me help you with the official website of Christie's auction house. Here's it: www.christies.com

NOW SEARCH, IF YOU WOULD FIND THE HISTORY ON THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE. THERE'S HISTORY OF EVERYTHING BOUGHT AND SOLD ON THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE. YOU DON'T NEED TO PURCHASE A BOOK FROM AMAZON TO FIND OUT. NOW SEARCH. I GIVE YOU THE GRACE OF 10 YEARS.

smokinloud:

Do you think Uthman wrote in Kuffic (Iraq and not Hejazi) Calligraphy?. Considering Hejazi was the Arabic Calligraphy of the Qurayshi Meccans during the time of Muhammed. Considering the fact that Uthman wrote the DIALECT of Muhammed do you still think the Iraq calligraphy is the Uthmanic manuscript?!.
Considering the fact that no BRITS will write to the King in Chinese alphabet and King James would never have authorised the KJV bible to be written in Chinese alphabet. Considering the fact that Islamic literature have it bold that Uthman wrote the dialect Muhammed spoke.

GreenCovering:


The vision for Kufa is another miracle of the holy Prophet (s.a.w.) in leadership that is rarely talked about. The holy Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.) established Kufa himself by an order and prophesied that the city would preserve Islam. In fact, in relevance to this topic, it is one of the places, along with Jerusalem, he visited in his Heveanly journey (not physically), along with the Archangel Jibril. So Caliph Umar moved in quickly during his reign and put in structures in Kufa and then inhabitants moved in enmasse, including the original memorisers of the holy Qur'an, that is, those who learnt directly from the holy Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.) . It soon evolved into a place of advanced academic endeavours. So by the time Caliph Uthman reign ordered for the copies of the holy Qur'an to be written in a book form, the first place to receive and reproduce them immediately was Kufa. That is why you have the Kuffic codex almost as early as the other dialects.

So, the Hejazi Calligraphies are fake. The Birmingham manuscripts (the Hejazi) is fake?!. Muhammed wrote or permitted the Qur'an to be written in Kuffic Calligraphy?!.
It's like me writing Yoruba language using Chinese alphabet to write it, does it make sense to you?!. That ai said it doesn't make it true. ai copied it from Islam website probably Islamawareness.com that you've been using.

GreenCovering:


Let's do a quick search of the most expensive item that was ever sold at Christie's till date for prominence and proper identification here: Salvator Mundi (pic1). Why is it not found on the Christie website www.christies.com (pic2)? If you can answer this question, then you will realise how the website www.christies.com works and why you will never find it there. Only then you will realise who truly is the dull one here. By the way I give you the grace of 10 years plus 1 to produce "Salvator Mundi" from www.christies.com.

GreenCovering:


Let's do a quick search of the most expensive item that was ever sold at Christie's till date for prominence and proper identification here: Salvator Mundi (pic1). Why is it not found on the Christie website www.christies.com (pic2)? If you can answer this question, then you will realise how the website www.christies.com works and why you will never find it there. Only then you will realise who truly is the dull one here. By the way I give you the grace of 10 years plus 1 to produce "Salvator Mundi" from www.christies.com.

smokinloud:

Stop being a typical slow Abdul. To make what is lawful forbidden means to change what is HALAL to HARAM. To make eye for an eye Haram and bring the law of Grace. That is to change laws. Are you as slow as the illiterate prophet?!.

smokinloud:

I schooled you ok this already. Stop being a typical Abdul without bra1n.

Bibleteacher:



🤣🤣🤣🤣 see a person that was tutored about his own Bible and exposed with his own Bible ahaaa .

Oya take this :

Leviticus 26:29

29 And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.

When will you eat that ? 🙏

Bibleteacher:


🤣🤣 you no get strength again to defend the Bible again Ahaa.

You have even tired while I have not even started with you .

Oya collect :


Nahum 3:10

Yet was she carried away, she went into captivity: her young children also were dashed in pieces at the top of all the streets: and they cast lots for her honourable men, and all her great men were bound in chains.

Now tell me , how does terrorist boko haram different from that verse .

And you ignorant Christians who follow Paul have audacity to attack Muslim . While your own Bible preached gnadoski .

GreenCovering:


The vision for Kufa is another miracle of the holy Prophet (s.a.w.) in leadership that is rarely talked about. The holy Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.) established Kufa himself by an order and prophesied that the city would preserve Islam. In fact, in relevance to this topic, it is one of the places, along with Jerusalem, he visited in his Heveanly journey (not physically), along with the Archangel Jibril. So Caliph Umar moved in quickly during his reign and put in structures in Kufa and then inhabitants moved in enmasse, including the original memorisers of the holy Qur'an, that is, those who learnt directly from the holy Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.) . It soon evolved into a place of advanced academic endeavours. So by the time Caliph Uthman reign ordered for the copies of the holy Qur'an to be written in a book form, the first place to receive and reproduce them immediately was Kufa. That is why you have the Kuffic codex almost as early as the other dialects.

So, the Hejazi Calligraphies are fake. The Birmingham manuscripts (the Hejazi) is fake?!. Muhammed wrote or permitted the Qur'an to be written in Kuffic Calligraphy?!.
It's like me writing Yoruba language using Chinese alphabet to write it, does it make sense to you?!. That ai said it doesn't make it true. ai copied it from Islam website probably Islamawareness.com that you've been using.

Bro, you didn't look very closely. It brought 85 results but it's been sold. You're probably looking at the available side but it's on the sold row. Look at your own screenshot very well, if you click on sold you'll see the result. It's very easy

smokinloud:

So, you are telling me now that the Kuffic script is a reproduction of the Uthman Qur'an and not the Qur'an standardised by Uthman ba?!.
Now, show me prove it came from the 7th century or the time of Uthman. You haven't shown me that. The Christie's website has well documented of everything it's bought and sold. And I've been able to prove to you that EA Rezvan that you quoted as source never make claims that the Tashkent manuscript came from the 7th century. As a matter of fact he dated it to the 8-9th century as proven earlier.

GreenCovering:


Not entirely true as website is only fairly recently. That is, they could not have been able to relist what they already sold. That was why they produced books to catalog them prior the internet age.

GreenCovering:

You are mixing it up again. Caliph Uthman (r.a.) ordered the writing of the Quran years later. However, the city Kufa was ordered to be established by the holy Prophet (s.a.w.). Infrastructural developments started at the time of Caliph Umar (r.a.). So the city of Kufa was already matured enough as an educational center before the time of Caliph Uthman (r.a.) who ordered the holy Qur'an written in a book form. The kuffic writing is simply a preferred writing font in Arabia of that time. It is not a different language. So the analogy you are trying to draw is hyperbolic to make it look like they are markedly different and they are not. In fact, it is very common that after learning normal Arabic, many students of Quran can easily read a Quran in Kufic style without needing to undergo further training. See pic 1 for definition.


Alright. I have seen it. My aim was to show you that once sold, it is no longer listed. Which is correct to an extent because what you showed me establishes that only items 'listed and sold' via the website have their histories on the website. What if the item was not listed and sold on the website e.g. before the internet era? For example, how did Christie keep the record for those items? This is interesting because internet archive shows that Christie's website "christies.com" was launched in 1996, which is some years after the auction of the Tashkent Manuscript. See pic 2. Now, when we go back to the EA Rezvan work (see pic3), we see that he indeed cited Christie's carbon dating of folios from the Tashkent manuscript which puts the dates at between 6th to 9th centuries.

That cited reference was linked to the book used to catalog the auction at Christie's of the Tashkent manuscript at the time when they had no website for listing. That is the primary source you were looking for and it was shown to you earlier. Show again. Pic 4.

GreenCovering:

You are mixing it up again. Caliph Uthman (r.a.) ordered the writing of the Quran years later. However, the city Kufa was ordered to be established by the holy Prophet (s.a.w.). Infrastructural developments started at the time of Caliph Umar (r.a.). So the city of Kufa was already matured enough as an educational center before the time of Caliph Uthman (r.a.) who ordered the holy Qur'an written in a book form. The kuffic writing is simply a preferred writing font in Arabia of that time. It is not a different language. So the analogy you are trying to draw is hyperbolic to make it look like they are markedly different and they are not. In fact, it is very common that after learning normal Arabic, many students of Quran can easily read a Quran in Kufic style without needing to undergo further training. See pic 1 for definition.


Alright. I have seen it. My aim was to show you that once sold, it is no longer listed. Which is correct to an extent because what you showed me establishes that only items 'listed and sold' via the website have their histories on the website. What if the item was not listed and sold on the website e.g. before the internet era? For example, how did Christie keep the record for those items? This is interesting because internet archive shows that Christie's website "christies.com" was launched in 1996, which is some years after the auction of the Tashkent Manuscript. See pic 2. Now, when we go back to the EA Rezvan work (see pic3), we see that he indeed cited Christie's carbon dating of folios from the Tashkent manuscript which puts the dates at between 6th to 9th centuries.

That cited reference was linked to the book used to catalog the auction at Christie's of the Tashkent manuscript at the time when they had no website for listing. That is the primary source you were looking for and it was shown to you earlier. Show again. Pic 4.

smokinloud:
You've been digressing to cover up your inefficiency to DEFEND one point. You've never debated one point. You bring up one point I refute it then you jump to the next point. I refute it again you then jump to the next point. You've been doing this for about a week now. You are not well equipped to debate. Go and invite your Imam. I debate your imams.

smokinloud:

These are the idiomatic expressions used in those days. It means Israel will be defeated by enemies when they work against the commands of their God. It's not tonne taken literally.
Leviticus 26:13-14,29-30
[13]I am the LORD your God, which brought you forth out of the land of Egypt, that ye should not be their bondmen; and I have broken the bands of your yoke, and made you go upright.
[14]But if ye will not hearken unto me, and will not do all these commandments;
[29]And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.
[30]And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you.

Bibleteacher:


All the verses I gave you , did you refuted them ?
You know thing . Just go and dance 💃 and clap in your church okay .

E shock this one to see verses that reset his brain from his own corrupted book. 🤣🤣

🤣😂😂😂
So you can not explain again .

Shame on you and your corrupted Bible .

Do you need more ?

Bibleteacher:



🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 so it is idioms Ahaa .

That means John 3: 16 is also idioms . I pity your soul.

Oya read another idiom 🤣

They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera’s spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil. (Judges 5:30 NAB)

Is that idiom as well ? 🤣

Bibleteacher:


All the verses I gave you , did you refuted them ?
You know thing . Just go and dance 💃 and clap in your church okay .

E shock this one to see verses that reset his brain from his own corrupted book. 🤣🤣

🤣😂😂😂
So you can not explain again .

Shame on you and your corrupted Bible .

Do you need more ?