Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by Shedrack777: 12:09pm On Feb 16 |
stunnert: Are you for real?
But I can't keep cummin in her Anytime we make love. We have to be moderate in child bearing and she may not even have the strength for the wahala of multiple child births then use birth control pills, injections implants. Let the semen nourished her when you both don't need children 1 Like |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by MaziObinnaokija: 12:11pm On Feb 16 |
gohf:
What are you even writing about, have you ever read the Bible before?
Or you are making things up again from your imagination? U can't even comment on FRIDAYS without SWEARING/ACCEPT ALLAH..It is a different ball game on Sundays |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by Pharaoh4rin(m): 12:14pm On Feb 16 |
See where this one d read, |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by Shedrack777: 12:15pm On Feb 16 |
sylve11:
What about releasing the semen into the opue, then it leads to pregnancy you do not want?  if you ain't ready for childbirth, use contraceptive, implants or injections. But let the semen enter the opue to either nourish her or procreate 1 Like |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by Godsonkemz(m): 12:19pm On Feb 16 |
God is abound in mercy, otherwise many would have been consumed by his wrath. We need your grace Lord |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by babat89: 12:19pm On Feb 16 |
judewrites: 📖 Genesis 38 ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ⁸ And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. ⁹ And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. ¹⁰ And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.
In the Old Testament God gave His people some laws concerning the discharge of semen from a man. (Leviticus 15:16-18)
According to these laws:
👉Anytime a man discharges his semen outside procreation (with his wife) he is considered unclean.
👉Any type of surface a man's semen falls upon is considered unclean.
👉When a man is in the process of procreation (with his wife) and he discharges his semen externally, both of them are unclean.
From these laws, we can see how sacred/sacrosanct man's semen is to God.
God ordained that man's semen should be utilized in procreation (with His wife) and not discharged carelessly/anyhow like in the case of Onan.
God killed Onan because he in outright disobedience, desecrated his semen by pouring it out on the floor instead of procreating with Tamar. (As custom then allowed it to raise children to represent his dead brother)
The major purpose of a man's semen is for procreation; to produce children on earth:
📖 His seed shall be mighty upon earth: the generation of the upright shall be blessed. — Psalms 112:2
The semen of man is full of supernatural creative energy from God. It can create life therefore it is highly valuable in the spiritual realm.
This is why the more a man practices semen retention, (with bible reading/prayer) the more supernaturally creative he becomes like God Himself. (Hebrews 11:3)
The devil and his cohorts also seek semen to create life/exercise power in the demonic realms.
In God's perspective, a man's semen is LIFE and can create LIFE; therefore it shouldn't be treated with levity like it's done today with many through masturbation, MouthAction, homosexuality, fornication, etc
Unfortunately, the free availability of pornography/prostitution has misled much men in freely desecrating their semen attracting the wrath of God:
📖 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men... — Romans 1:18
We are under the dispensation of grace by the blood🩸of Jesus, that's why God's wrath hasn't been fully manifested yet.
But grace period will be over soon.
You are daft! You simply lack comprehension skills... The reason Onan was 'killed' according to that passage was because he didn't want his brother to have children by him, which was the law at the time. If a man died childless, his brothers were supposed to impregnante the wife, so the man's lineage would continue. Intelligence is required in being a good Christian too. So by your defective analogy, if a couple have fertility issues, the man must not do semen analysis? Abeg, no dey use this your brain cross road o! 🤣 1 Like |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by Wallade(m): 12:25pm On Feb 16 |
Kimo21:
lol… it’s funny your bio says “led by the spirit” let me tell you something you agent of darkeness walking amongst us pretending to be a human being you’ll be dealt with very soon. I told you to stop playing God. You are the dark angel pretending to be Christian. mofo! |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by Pharaoh4rin(m): 12:27pm On Feb 16 |
AbuTwins:
Was Er as wicked as Pharaoh or any other wicked person in the Bible that God didn't kill?
Even Er's father that impregnated his daughter in law committing incest plus adultery and accusing the same daughter in law of sin is not deemed wicked to be killed! You're using English to try to understand bible. Sorry! Tomorrow, you will go and.sit on a mat, eating awara and be claiming that you argued bible with Christians. Sorry, you've lost. You know nothing. Ode |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by Wallade(m): 12:27pm On Feb 16 |
Shedrack777: if you're married, go and do withdrawal and pour it outside. Then, come and tell me what's up after 6 months Nothing is up, stop fooling yourself. If you believe something is up for you, that is your shit not mine so deal with it. For me, spilling sperm is just ordinary, there is no spiritual consequences for it. It simply means I don't want to get my wife or woman pregnant. Simple. |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by elonize(m): 12:30pm On Feb 16 |
AllBlack: WITHDRAWAL METHOD since 7,000 B.C. ONAN na bad guy
see how they cleverly used the word SLAY instead of KILL to make it look good.
God KILLED onan.
ders nothing like make it look good.that's ur own perception... That's the English being used..at the end of d day,we have different Bible translations |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by Thomthom(m): 12:31pm On Feb 16 |
So how wish people wey dey read Bible no dey hear, this one for don twist Bible give us. Na like this pastopreneur take they collect una hard earn money say he won go give God. Mtcheeew |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by Shedrack777: 12:32pm On Feb 16 |
Wallade:
Nothing is up, stop fooling yourself. If you believe something is up for you, that is your shit not mine so deal with it.
For me, spilling sperm is just ordinary, there is no spiritual consequences for it. It simply means I don't want to get my wife or woman pregnant. Simple. Are you married? |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by Wallade(m): 12:34pm On Feb 16 |
Shedrack777: Are you married? Yes, for a number of years. |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by Niok2: 12:39pm On Feb 16 |
Omo religion really dn make people look stupid and retardded |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by Ikpunekenwa(m): 12:44pm On Feb 16 |
AbuTwins: Abeg which kind custom is that for a brother to sleep with his brother's widow to produce offspring for him even if he doesn't want to?
Na by force?
And it's not only Onan! The father later slept with the same woman pretending as an harlot and she got pregnant. He wanted to punish her untill he realised he was the culprit.
God punished the sinful first son with death! God punished the second with death! The father committed adultery and incest but was forgiven!
How is such fair? The tradition islam tried copying, they rejected mohammed and islam,. Making mohammed to then out of anger forged it without their consent. |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by gohf: 12:45pm On Feb 16 |
MaziObinnaokija: U can't even comment on FRIDAYS without SWEARING/ACCEPT ALLAH..It is a different ball game on Sundays we freely accept God's grace but the devil forces bondage upon all men 1 Like |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by Bishop(m): 12:46pm On Feb 16 |
Discountsempai: It had nothing to do with Onan spilling his seed, and the verse in question had nothing to do with masturbation (and no, I am not excusing masturbation...especially as I have never engaged in it, because quite frankly it does not make sense).
Onan was supposed to marry his late brother's wife, and under the customs of that time, the first child he had with his wife would be counted as his brother's child (strange to us, but in a society with high child mortality, and a concern over keeping lineages alive...).
Onan refused to do that because (as the verses imply)...he hated his brother Er. So, out of bitterness, he denied Er THE RIGHT TO KEEP his lineage alive.
Essentially, what Onan also was doing was
1. Denying Tamar the right to have a child...in a society where barreness was a BIG STIGMA. (See how Jacob, Onan's grandpa, wife Rachel felt about having no kids...and later on Hannah. And even Sarah, Onan's great-great grandmother).
2. Essentially telling his father that he wanted both his and Er's inheritance...ie greed. If he had done what he was supposed to do, then when Judah died, his (Onan's) firstborn son would have gotten Er's portion of the inheritance. By having no kids, he gets a dobule portion.
3. Essentially commiting an injustice to his late brother and dishonoring his memory.
Thus..as the bible put it in Genesis 38 vs 8-10
8 Then Judah said to Onan, “Sleep with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for your brother.” 9 But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. 10 What he did was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death also
So, nothing to do with seed or with masturbation as the OP thinks it does.
At its base it is a story about how harmful greed and resentment can be. And how wickedness also can provoke resentment (Er is described as a wicked man, so it is obvious that he was wicked to his two younger brothers, breeding anger and resentment). Bless you brother,Thank you for putting this in the right perspective.It makes more meaningful sense than what the other guy wrote. Any other person reading his write ups would have been mislead,he had zero knowledge of what he was talking about. |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by OfficialP: 12:47pm On Feb 16 |
I find it difficult to believe that God killed anyone. Jesus is the express image of God, Jesus never killed anyone |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by Pharaoh4rin(m): 12:49pm On Feb 16 |
Greatness09: I have just one question please why can everyone comment on Christian topics but before you comment on Islam topics you must agree to be a Muslim Because all their acts is shrewd in secrecy. Idol worshippers usually take an oath because they're fake 1 Like |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by 12345baba(m): 12:55pm On Feb 16 |
This one read bible finish come explain am upside down. God slayed onan for disobedience. |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by judewrites: 12:57pm On Feb 16 |
babat89:
You are daft!
You simply lack comprehension skills...
The reason Onan was 'killed' according to that passage was because he didn't want his brother to have children by him, which was the law at the time.
If a man died childless, his brothers were supposed to impregnante the wife, so the man's lineage would continue.
Intelligence is required in being a good Christian too.
So by your defective analogy, if a couple have fertility issues, the man must not do semen analysis?
Abeg, no dey use this your brain cross road o! 🤣 Open your eyes clearly when reading my article. I said God killed onan for outright disobedience in desecrating his semen by pouring it out on the floor rather than impregnating Tamar. Oman committed two offences: 1. Refusal to impregnate Tamar 2. Pouring out his semen on the floor. |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by judewrites: 1:00pm On Feb 16 |
12345baba: This one read bible finish come explain am upside down. God slayed onan for disobedience. Yes, that's exactly what I stated. God killed Onan for his disobedience in pouring out his semen on the floor rather than impregnating Tamar. So therefore, the semen must have life significance in God's view. |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by judewrites: 1:02pm On Feb 16 |
OfficialP: I find it difficult to believe that God killed anyone. Jesus is the express image of God, Jesus never killed anyone God killed a lot of people in the bible in the bible, especially the OT. This was because in the OT, there was no blood of Jesus to atone for the sins of the people. Therefore God often expressed His anger freely unlike in the NT. |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by babat89: 1:07pm On Feb 16 |
judewrites:
Open your eyes clearly when reading my article.
I said God killed onan for outright disobedience in desecrating his semen by pouring it out on the floor rather than impregnating Tamar.
Oman committed two offences:
1. Refusal to impregnate Tamar
2. Pouring out his semen on the floor.
Again I say you are daft! ...and you lack comprehension skills. Why didn't God kill Onan when he had wet dreams? Or when he did withdrawal method with his own wife (to prevent pregnancy). Or is sex only meant for pregnancy? I will be surprised if you did well in school. Because this your reasoning ehn... na war! 🤣 |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by judewrites: 1:09pm On Feb 16 |
Discountsempai: It had nothing to do with Onan spilling his seed, and the verse in question had nothing to do with masturbation (and no, I am not excusing masturbation...especially as I have never engaged in it, because quite frankly it does not make sense).
Onan was supposed to marry his late brother's wife, and under the customs of that time, the first child he had with his wife would be counted as his brother's child (strange to us, but in a society with high child mortality, and a concern over keeping lineages alive...).
Onan refused to do that because (as the verses imply)...he hated his brother Er. So, out of bitterness, he denied Er THE RIGHT TO KEEP his lineage alive.
Essentially, what Onan also was doing was
1. Denying Tamar the right to have a child...in a society where barreness was a BIG STIGMA. (See how Jacob, Onan's grandpa, wife Rachel felt about having no kids...and later on Hannah. And even Sarah, Onan's great-great grandmother).
2. Essentially telling his father that he wanted both his and Er's inheritance...ie greed. If he had done what he was supposed to do, then when Judah died, his (Onan's) firstborn son would have gotten Er's portion of the inheritance. By having no kids, he gets a dobule portion.
3. Essentially commiting an injustice to his late brother and dishonoring his memory.
Thus..as the bible put it in Genesis 38 vs 8-10
8 Then Judah said to Onan, “Sleep with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for your brother.” 9 But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. 10 What he did was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death also
So, nothing to do with seed or with masturbation as the OP thinks it does.
At its base it is a story about how harmful greed and resentment can be. And how wickedness also can provoke resentment (Er is described as a wicked man, so it is obvious that he was wicked to his two younger brothers, breeding anger and resentment). Contrary to your view, this story has a lot to do with the spiritual significance of a man's semen. Yes, God killed Onan for his willful disobedience in refusal to impregnate Tamar, but his actions of pouring out his seed on the floor was very spiritually significant. His motives and actions were judged by God. |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by Oshin56(m): 1:11pm On Feb 16 |
Wallade:
Prove that it is true, let's have your proof from the bible or NY any means.
I am waiting... I'm not saying it's through and I'm not saying it's a lie because I'm not in His position.. |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by judewrites: 1:16pm On Feb 16 |
babat89:
Again I say you are daft! ...and you lack comprehension skills.
Why didn't God kill Onan when he had wet dreams?
Or when he did withdrawal method with his own wife (to prevent pregnancy).
Or is sex only meant for pregnancy?
I will be surprised if you did well in school. Because this your reasoning ehn... na war! 🤣 What's the purpose of sex? It's mainly for procreation. Yes, there is pleasure and intimacy, but the main purpose is procreation. That's why God sees semen as sacred. God killed Onan because he willfully disobeyed in pouring out his seed on the floor. Having wet dreams isn't willful, but masturbation is wilful and God sees it as a sin. |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by jaxxy(m): 1:17pm On Feb 16 |
Why do Christians mischievously or intentionally twist the actual interpretations or lessons of the scriptures to suit their desired narrative or agenda? |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by judewrites: 1:21pm On Feb 16 |
Bishop:
Bless you brother,Thank you for putting this in the right perspective.It makes more meaningful sense than what the other guy wrote.
Any other person reading his write ups would have been mislead,he had zero knowledge of what he was talking about. God punished Oman for his willful disobedience in pouring out his semen on the floor rather than impregnating his late brother's wife. I didn't say God killed Onan simply because for his withdrawal method though that's unclean in his sight. But by his actions in pouring out his seed, clearly a man's semen is of deep significance to God and that's why I wrote this article. |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by Rexymania(m): 1:28pm On Feb 16 |
AbuTwins: Abeg which kind custom is that for a brother to sleep with his brother's widow to produce offspring for him even if he doesn't want to?
Na by force?
And it's not only Onan! The father later slept with the same woman pretending as an harlot and she got pregnant. He wanted to punish her untill he realised he was the culprit.
God punished the sinful first son with death! God punished the second with death! The father committed adultery and incest but was forgiven!
How is such fair? That's to show that god does not exist |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by judewrites: 1:29pm On Feb 16 |
Sammy5413: Onan was killed by God for direct disobedience and not the way you saying it.
If what you saying is true of which it doesn't even near the truth, even you the writer must have more than 100 kids and still counting unless you won't touch ur wife anymore which is also a sin before God!
NB; if you have kids yu can't train, that's a big sin before man and God
You read the scripture with human knowledge but ask God to guide you to the meaning!!! God killed Onan for his direct disobedience in pouring out his seed on the floor. I never said God killed Onan just for pouring out his seed, but his actions had spiritual significance to God. But each time semen is released carelessly, it displeases God because He sees it as an active life force. |
Re: Why Did God Slay Onan After He Spilled His Seed On The Floor? by Onyiiobi7735(m): 1:33pm On Feb 16 |
Wallade:
Grace of God will never be over! God will punish no one for spilling sperm. Lies! God'Grace would be over soon and then His Undiluted Wrath would be poured out in full measure on the earth after the Rapture. |