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Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by MrPresident1: 8:13am On Feb 25
Is 'thee' standing along in that verse? What follows 'thee'? That's your answer.

Read John 14:6

Truthseeker10:

John 17:3 below.

King James Bible
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Who is "thee"?
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by delkuf(m): 8:15am On Feb 25
Truthseeker10:

John 17:3.

King James Bible
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
ok........ The fact that God the heavenly Father sent to the Lord Jesus Christ to earth, does that make the Lord Jesus Christ a messenger. If a boss in a place of work send a subordinate a message, does that mean that subordinate is a messenger to that boss. God sent his son Jesus Christ to earth doesn't mean that the Lord Jesus Christ is a messenger. You should know more that this. Dont read the Bible with a bias mindset. So if your father send you a message, you are on longer a son to your father, you are now a messenger to him. This is very simple to understand
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 8:30am On Feb 25
delkuf:
ok........ The fact that God the heavenly Father sent to the Lord Jesus Christ to earth, does that make the Lord Jesus Christ a messenger. If a boss in a place of work send a subordinate a message, does that mean that subordinate is a messenger to that boss. God sent his son Jesus Christ to earth doesn't mean that the Lord Jesus Christ is a messenger. You should know more that this. Dont read the Bible with a bias mindset. So if your father send you a message, you are on longer a son to your father, you are now a messenger to him. This is very simple to understand
Who is a messenger?

Kindly show me where I said that Jesus was not a son of God.
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 8:32am On Feb 25
MrPresident1:
Is 'thee' standing along in that verse? What follows 'thee'? That's your answer.

Read John 14:6

Is thee the only true God? Yes or no?
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by delkuf(m): 8:33am On Feb 25
Truthseeker10:

Who is a messenger?

Kindly show me where I said that Jesus was not a son of God.
then what is your point
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 8:33am On Feb 25
delkuf:
then what is your point
Who Is a messenger?
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by delkuf(m): 8:35am On Feb 25
Truthseeker10:

Who Is a messenger?
I don't get you. Are you saying that the Lord Jesus Christ is a messenger or he is a son of God. Or he is both. What ared are you saying
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 8:36am On Feb 25
delkuf:
I don't get you. Are you saying that the Lord Jesus Christ is a messenger or he is a son of God. Or he is both. What ared are you saying
What does John 17:3 say?

King James Bible
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by delkuf(m): 8:38am On Feb 25
Truthseeker10:

What does John 17:3 say?

King James Bible
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent
i think yiu are confuse.
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 8:40am On Feb 25
delkuf:
i think yiu are confuse.
Explain John 17:3 if you are not confused.



King James Bible
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Steep(m): 10:12am On Feb 25
Truthseeker10:

John 17:3.

King James Bible
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
A Son can be messenger and a Son at the same time. Jesus took up the role as a servant of God in order to fulfill God's plan.
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 10:13am On Feb 25
Steep:
A Son can be messenger and a Son at the same time. Jesus took up the role as a servant of God in order to fulfill God's plan.
.show me where I denied that.
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Steep(m): 10:17am On Feb 25
Truthseeker10:
.show me where I denied that.
never said you denied that only pointed it out, to show you that the fact that Jesus is called the servant of God does not mean he is not more than a servant.
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 10:22am On Feb 25
Steep:
never said you denied that only pointed it out, to show you that the fact that Jesus is called the servant of God does not more than a servant.
Oga you need sleep.
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Steep(m): 1:05pm On Feb 25
Truthseeker10:

Oga you need sleep.
I have corrected it. It was a my keyboard glitch
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by gohf: 5:04pm On Feb 25
Righteousness2:


Everyone on Earth who does not Believe and SURRENDER to the LORD JESUS CHRIST is heading to Hell.
what is the purpose of believing in Jesus?
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by gohf: 5:07pm On Feb 25
Righteousness2:
Not Believing in JESUS CHRIST is the Greatest sin of all.

It does not Matter how religious you are,
It does not Matter how Good, Kind , wonderful or philantrophic you are,
It does not Matter if you fast throughout the year,

If you do not BELIEVE and SURRENDER TO THE LORDSHIP OF JESUS CHRIST! You are Heading to the LAKE OF FIRE





Rev 21:8 you quoted you highlighted only believe but ingnore the rest of what was written. Why is that?

According to you, no matter how innocent of they are, if they are not cowardly, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, nor liars, as long as they do not believe they will perish. Is this what you believe and teach?
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by gohf: 5:09pm On Feb 25
buchidinho:
let me shock you!!!

based on the question asked ,the truth is Sin is the only thing that takes one to hell.
if you believe in Jesus you will definitely obey his commandments ,which is to abstain from sin.
that said , if you leave a rightous life without believing in Jesus, u will definitely make heaven.
why do I say ,I'm saying so because before Christ existence they were rightous people who had died before Christ coming .when they died Christ went to the dead and released them into paradise


righteousness2 have you read this post?
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by gohf: 5:10pm On Feb 25
delkuf:
sir there is no way you will LEAVE A RIGHTEOUS LIFE WITHOUT BELIEVING IN JESUS. Many of us don't know what the Lord Jesus Christ did by dying on the cross and resurrecting on the 3 day. Jesus dying and resurrecting on the 3 day means we have been exchanged with the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus took our place as a sinner while we became the righteousness of God through Him. 2 cor 5:21 "for he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him". So how can we live a righteous life with believing in Jesus. It is not possible sir

Was Job a righteous man?
Did he believe in Jesus?
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by gohf: 5:21pm On Feb 25
immaculatesense:

Direct answer.
As a believer, Jesus is enough for me to deliver me from sin.
Thanks.
care to explain what it means for Jesus to deliver you from sin?
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by gohf: 5:23pm On Feb 25
StillDtruth:


The problem is, no one can live a righteous life.

Even righteous people first sinned before they decided to start living right doingly.

so Job, Noah, Daniel were no one?
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by gohf: 5:26pm On Feb 25
Truthseeker10:

Bible verse please.
you don't believe what he wrote?

Or are you looking for a verse and translation you can misuse like Ecc 9:10?
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by gohf: 5:44pm On Feb 25
delkuf:
the Lord Jesus Christ is not the messenger of God. He is the son of God. No matter how hard you guys are trying to hid this truth, it would not be hidden because our salvation is in the fact that the Lord Jesus Christ, the son of God came this world and died for our sins and on the third day, he resurrected from the dead. That is our salvation. That is what make us free from the shackles of sin and the devil. And there is no other way to be truly save
it is your own Jesus that you believe in that God did not send, that one sent himself and his message is from himself but he can't save you because salvation is from God who sent his son, Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by gohf: 5:47pm On Feb 25
delkuf:
ok........ The fact that God the heavenly Father sent to the Lord Jesus Christ to earth, does that make the Lord Jesus Christ a messenger. If a boss in a place of work send a subordinate a message, does that mean that subordinate is a messenger to that boss. God sent his son Jesus Christ to earth doesn't mean that the Lord Jesus Christ is a messenger. You should know more that this. Dont read the Bible with a bias mindset. So if your father send you a message, you are on longer a son to your father, you are now a messenger to him. This is very simple to understand
no, your Jesus is god that sent himself, you are interpretating scripture with pride. So those who call themselves servants of Christ are they no more brothers and sisters or Jesus Christ?
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by gohf: 5:49pm On Feb 25
delkuf:
i think yiu are confuse.
when the devil the author of confusion confuses you, you think others are confused

Okay you that is not confused, explain the John 17:3 they asked you
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by immaculatesense(m): 6:24pm On Feb 25
gohf:
care to explain what it means for Jesus to deliver you from sin?
The word "deliver" means "set free." The knowledge of Christ and his will sets one free from sin.
John 8:31
[31]Jesus said to the people who believed in him, “You are truly my disciples if you remain faithful to my teachings.

When one through the knowledge of Christ turns away from his old ways to the newness of life. He is free indeed from his old sin and he is now a new being in Christ.
Ephesians 5:1-3,6-8
[1]Imitate God, therefore, in everything you do, because you are his dear children.
[2]Live a life filled with love, following the example of Christ. He loved us and offered himself as a sacrifice for us, a pleasing aroma to God.
[3]Let there be no sexual immorality, impurity, or greed among you. Such sins have no place among God’s people.
[6]Don’t be fooled by those who try to excuse these sins, for the anger of God will fall on all who disobey him.
[7]Don’t participate in the things these people do.
[8]For once you were full of darkness, but now you have light from the Lord. So live as people of light!

So, the knowledge and acceptance of Christ nature and will in our lives sets us from sin.

THANKS.
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by StillDtruth: 6:25pm On Feb 25
gohf:
so Job, Noah, Daniel were no one?

God judged them just and perfect and righteous.

But, not sin-none.

Even as kids we know all the sins and wickednesses we committed eg lying ,stealing someone's biro or snack, wishing your friend evil because he gapped you in race, revenging. Plotting evil against someone.

Some kids even fornicated playing mummy and daddy. Some kids even fornicated with their siblings and cousins etc

Many many sins are already committed before children even reach Jss 2 when the main, the main starts.

So, righteous man first sinned before he chose to become right doing.

Which is why the bible declared "all have sinned/the heart of man is desperately wicked"
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 6:40pm On Feb 25
gohf:
you don't believe what he wrote?

Or are you looking for a verse and translation you can misuse like Ecc 9:10?
Oga kindly provide a Bible verse where Jesus released spirit of dead people to heaven.
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by delkuf(m): 6:55pm On Feb 25
gohf:
no, your Jesus is god that sent himself, you are interpretating scripture with pride. So those who call themselves servants of Christ are they no more brothers and sisters or Jesus Christ?
i pray believe on time
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by delkuf(m): 6:56pm On Feb 25
gohf:
it is your own Jesus that you believe in that God did not send, that one sent himself and his message is from himself but he can't save you because salvation is from God who sent his son, Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
did i said God did not send the Lord Jesus Christ. Read with understand
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by delkuf(m): 7:17pm On Feb 25
gohf:
no, your Jesus is god that sent himself, you are interpretating scripture with pride. So those who call themselves servants of Christ are they no more brothers and sisters or Jesus Christ?
it is God that sent the Lord Jesus Christ. Don't misquote me. I never said that God didn't send the Lord Jesus.
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by gohf: 7:23pm On Feb 25
delkuf:
it is God that sent the Lord Jesus Christ. Don't misquote me. I never said that God didn't send the Lord Jesus.
you wrote that Jesus is not the messenger of God. Right?
Where is the misquote?

Or were you saying God didn't give Jesus a message that's why he is not a messenger?

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