https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W02myOu4lKE



Omega Fire Ministries International’s Apostle Johnson Suleman has always been known for his provocative sermons, but his latest preaching has stirred a wave of curiosity and debate across both religious and philosophical circles. In his sermon, Apostle Suleman challenged conventional views of God’s location and raised a thought-provoking question: “Where was God before He created Heaven?”

Apostle Suleman’s bold assertions about God’s true nature and residence in the universe have captured the attention of believers and skeptics alike. Drawing upon scripture and theological reflections, the senior pastor of Omega Fire Ministries pointed out a profound contradiction within traditional religious beliefs, which claim that Heaven is God’s throne and Earth His footstool.

“The Bible says the heaven is His throne, and the earth is His footstool. So where can God go?”he asked, challenging the notion that God resides in Heaven as commonly believed. Heaven forbid He settle there,” he added, questioning the very idea that God, the eternal and omnipotent being, could have a limited, fixed dwelling in Heaven.

Suleman’s sermon took a turn as he boldly declared that *God does not reside in Heaven at all. Drawing from his interpretation of scripture, he emphasized that if Heaven is where God’s throne is, then He must be much greater than any physical realm. “God cannot be confined to one location,”Suleman declared.

This assertion prompted the preacher to ask another compelling question: “If God is the creator of Heaven itself, where was He before Heaven was created?” The question, though seemingly philosophical, reveals a deeper contemplation about the nature of divinity and God’s infinite existence outside the constraints of time and space.

As the sermon unfolded, Suleman shared a profound revelation: “God does not reside in Heaven, He dwells in the hearts of His people.” This statement shifts the focus away from a distant, celestial God and places Him in the very lives and prayers of His followers. According to Suleman, God’s presence is not limited to the vastness of the cosmos or the ethereal realm of Heaven, but instead, He resides in the praises, prayers, and devotion of His people.

He further clarified that God is “the Immortal One,” residing in “a light that no man can approach.”This idea challenges the conventional view of God as a distant, untouchable deity sitting in Heaven and instead presents Him as a deeply present and ever-available force among the faithful. His divine presence, according to Suleman, is not limited by any physical boundaries or by time, but is experienced wherever the worship of His name takes place.

Suleman’s revelation echoed a deeper theological principle—that God's presence is limitless and not confined to a single realm. It suggests a more dynamic and intimate relationship between God and His creation, one that is not tied to a physical space but to the continual adoration and worship of His followers.

The sermon wrapped up with an impassioned call for believers to seek God’s presence in their own lives. By acknowledging that God is not confined to any one place, believers are encouraged to deepen their personal connection with the divine. As Apostle Suleman puts it, “If you draw near to God, He will draw near to you,”emphasizing the transformative power of closeness to the divine.

The message has resonated with many in his congregation, who have come away with a renewed understanding of God’s omnipresence. For some, it has sparked deeper reflections about their own spiritual journeys and their relationship with God, free from the constraints of traditional religious dogma.

Apostle Suleman’s statements represent a bold challenge to long-standing religious beliefs about God’s dwelling. His interpretation invites believers to reimagine the nature of God—not as a deity confined to Heaven or any particular location, but as an omnipresent and eternal force that moves through the lives of those who seek Him.

This teaching is certainly not without controversy. Critics may argue that Suleman’s perspective undermines traditional theological views of God’s omnipotence and eternal reign in Heaven. However, his supporters contend that this revelation deepens the mystery and awe surrounding the divine, reminding humanity that God’s presence is far greater than any one physical realm.

Apostle Suleman’s provocative question—“Where was God before He created Heaven?”—seems to open a door to a new way of thinking about the eternal God. Whether one agrees with his conclusions or not, the sermon invites us to explore the boundless nature of divine presence and the limitless ways in which God interacts with the world.

This Question should be directed to JW who believe God is non transcendental!!! 😂😂😂

He was living in a motel.

Gabrielshow24:
This Question should be directed to JW who believe God is non transcendental!!! 😂😂😂

Each religion/church has their doctrine but all of you are looking up to JWs when it comes to doctrine because all of you are ashamed of your churches.

Jesus said about Jehovah's Witnesses the only true Christian group:

“You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain." Matthew 5:14

Pure worship restored!

MaxInDHouse:


Each religion/church has their doctrine but all of you are looking up to JWs when it comes to doctrine because all of you are ashamed of your churches.

Jesus said about Jehovah's Witnesses the only true Christian group:

“You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain." Matthew 5:14

Pure worship restored!

Hello, their brother.
The fellow is pointing out that JWs have more controversial doctrines than others. Community truths.

MightySparrow:

Hello, brother neighbour.
The fellow is pointing out that JWs have more controversial doctrines than others. Community truths.

Do you really know what controversial means?

Well you can only use the word when all those involved think they are worshipers of the same God yet they fail to agree on doctrine but in this case JWs separated themselves even to the extent that their songs, prayers, mode of worship and operation totally differs from what you people do.

If a member of either Catholic, Anglican, Methodist, Apostolic, Foursquare, mfm, chosen, Redeem, Deeperlife, Winner, Synagogue, Christ Embassy or any other so called churches should start a prayer now all of you will flow because you're all on the same page but a JW will rather take his leave or remain silent until you people are through with whatever you think you're doing.

WHY?

Because we are no part of you people! John 17:14-16

MaxInDHouse:


Do you really know what controversial means?

Well you can only use the word when all those involved think they are worshipers of the same God yet they fail to agree on doctrine but in this case JWs separated themselves even to the extent that their songs, prayers, mode of worship and operation totally differs from what you people do.

If a member of either Catholic, Anglican, Methodist, Apostolic, Foursquare, mfm, chosen, Redeem, Deeperlife, Winner, Synagogue, Christ Embassy or any other so called churches should start a prayer now all of you will flow because you're all on the same page but a JW will rather take his leave or remain silent until you people are through with whatever you think you're doing.

WHY?

Because we are no part of you people! John 17:14-16

re very sure that God does not answer our prayers because we don't pray, craft our prayers in JWs' standard's way?

Gabrielshow24:
This Question should be directed to JW who believe God is non transcendental!!! 😂😂😂

Explain 1 kings 19:11, 12.


If God is omnipresent, explain this statement by you: "From basic school of thought, God is everywhere by substance but not necessary by presence".


is God omnisubstance or omnipresent?

MightySparrow:


Hello, their brother.
The fellow is pointing out that JWs have more controversial doctrines than others. Community truths.

Explain 1 kings 19:11, 12.

Truthseeker10:

Explain 1 kings 19:11, 12.


If God is omnipresent, explain this statement by you: "From basic school of thought, God is everywhere by substance but not necessary by presence".


is God omnisubstance or omnipresent?

Let's see whether you can reason.

Did God create energy 🤨?
True or False?

If True, then you have made ENERGY greater than your God, Jehovah!

By alluding to the fact that ENERGY IS EVERYWHERE BUT YOUR GOD, JEHOVAH OF JW, IS NOT EVERYWHERE!!!

If false then you are a liar, cause the bible will damn you.

Hence whichever you choose, you are damned!!!

A big dilemma is it not😂😂😂

Truthseeker10:

Explain 1 kings 19:11, 12.

I like your name on Nairaland.
I hope you are living the name.

1Kgs.19.11 - And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the LORD. And, behold, the LORD passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the LORD; but the LORD was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the LORD was not in the earthquake:
1Kgs.19.12 - And after the earthquake a fire; but the LORD was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.


For Elijah God was not in the wind, earthquake, and the melting of the mountain. If you ask Elijah, how does God reveal Himself, he would tell you, in a still small voice.
Can we now make Elijah's experience a doctrine? No.




Exod.19.9 - And the LORD said unto Moses, Lo, I come unto thee in a thick cloud, that the people may hear when I speak with thee, and believe thee for ever. And Moses told the words of the people unto the LORD.
Exod.19.10 - And the LORD said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them to day and to morrow, and let them wash their clothes,
Exod.19.11 - And be ready against the third day: for the third day the LORD will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.
Exod.19.13 - There shall not an hand touch it, but he shall surely be stoned, or shot through; whether it be beast or man, it shall not live: when the trumpet soundeth long, they shall come up to the mount.
Exod.19.18 - And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the LORD descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly.
Exod.19.19 - And when the voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spake, and God answered him by a voice.
Exod.19.20 - And the LORD came down upon mount Sinai, on the top of the mount: and the LORD called Moses up to the top of the mount; and Moses went up.
Exod.19.21 - And the LORD said unto Moses, Go down, charge the people, lest they break through unto the LORD to gaze, and many of them perish.
Exod.19.22 - And let the priests also, which come near to the LORD, sanctify themselves, lest the LORD break forth upon them.
Exod.19.23 - And Moses said unto the LORD, The people cannot come up to mount Sinai: for thou chargedst us, saying, Set bounds about the mount, and sanctify it.
Exod.19.24 - And the LORD said unto him, Away, get thee down, and thou shalt come up, thou, and Aaron with thee: but let not the priests and the people break through to come up unto the LORD, lest he break forth upon them.


Exod.20.18 - And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.
Exod.20.19 - And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.

This people heard God once in a deafening voice, and requested never to appear before Him again.


In this encounter, if you asked Moses, he would probably tell you that God reveals Himself in fire that does not burn (Personal Truth); if you now asked the Israelites of his time, they would tell you God manifests in a deafening blast of noises. (Community truth)

If you now asked Solomon at the dedication of the Temple , be would tell you, God dwelt in a cloud. He even said it that God said, he would dwell in 'thick darkness '

From these, you can see that God is not confined to a personal whims and caprises, or a community like JWs silent worship or celestial dances or pentecostals hysterical dances or any other in any other parts of the world.

This is the reason I laugh when a denomination like yours set standard for God.
I laugh in Jehovah's Witnesses' paradise's language.

MightySparrow:

re very sure that God does not answer our prayers because we don't pray, craft our prayers in JWs' standard's way?

So what assurance do you have that the atheist who doesn't pray lacks necessities of life, shey?
Please how old are you?

MaxInDHouse:

So what assurance do you have that the atheist who doesn't pray lacks necessities of life, shey?
Please how old are you?

So if atheists do not pray, do you?

If you pray for what and why?

MightySparrow:


So if atheists do not pray, do you?

If you pray for what and why?

Prayer is the key
Prayer is the key
Prayer is the master key
Jesus started with prayer and he ended with prayer
Prayer is the master key
Hallelujah

MightySparrow:

So if atheists do not pray, do you?
If you pray for what and why?

Your first question shows your hatred is bitter towards truth because you have a JW among your own siblings.
The paramount prayer of JWs is exactly what our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus made his major concern:
Unity, Love, Joy, Peace and Progress among his followers. John 17:20-23

Jesus' people have come out of different religions throughout the earth {Revelations 18:4} to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3} that's why we have one spiritual language as if we are from the same place {Zephaniah 3:9} even though you people don't understand us you will begin to suspect once a member of this organization says few things about faith in our God! Micah 4:5

So why do we now have rebellious ones who keeps agitating in their hearts but can't face us in our place of worship?

Well Satan's children have always appear among God's people right from the beginning {Numbers 16:2-3} and just as Jehovah often destroys them {Jude 1:11; Exodus 32:33} the same will happen to all Apostates who refuse to leave God's organization yet they are speaking abusively of the same organization in which they worship! Titus 1:10-12; 3John 9-10

Your own brain may not be able to grasp what is happening but i'm sure any right thinking person will ask:

"Why didn't these ones who claims to be Physically In Mentally Out of Jehovah's Witnesses organization join other religions of their choice if truthfully they love to worship the true God and they are sure JWs aren't worshiping the true God?"

The answer to that question is simple:

There is no organization where they can find the Love, Joy and Peace again so they keep criticizing God's ORGANIZED people even though they worship with the same organization!

Agbaka1997:

Prayer is the key
Prayer is the key
Prayer is the master key
Jesus started with prayer and he ended with prayer
Prayer is the master key
Hallelujah

Jesus will never ever pray with those who refuses to agree with his teachings {John 17:8-9} so his real disciples will not pray with people who refuse to accept the teachings Jesus handed over to us! Matthew 28:20
May you have Peace!

Who said that He was confined to heaven?

MaxInDHouse:


Your first question shows your hatred is bitter towards truth because you have a JW among your own siblings.
The paramount prayer of JWs is exactly what our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus made his major concern:
Unity, Love, Joy, Peace and Progress among his followers. John 17:20-23

Jesus' people have come out of different religions throughout the earth {Revelations 18:4} to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3} that's why we have one spiritual language as if we are from the same place {Zephaniah 3:9} even though you people don't understand us you will begin to suspect once a member of this organization says few things about faith in our God! Micah 4:5

So why do we now have rebellious ones who keeps agitating in their hearts but can't face us in our place of worship?

Well Satan's children have always appear among God's people right from the beginning {Numbers 16:2-3} and just as Jehovah often destroys them {Jude 1:11; Exodus 32:33} the same will happen to all Apostates who refuse to leave God's organization yet they are speaking abusively of the same organization in which they worship! Titus 1:10-12; 3John 9-10

Your own brain may not be able to grasp what is happening but i'm sure any right thinking person will ask:

"Why didn't these ones who claims to be Physically In Mentally Out of Jehovah's Witnesses organization join other religions of their choice if truthfully they love to worship the true God and they are sure JWs aren't worshiping the true God?"

The answer to that question is simple:

There is no organization where they can find the Love, Joy and Peace again so they keep criticizing God's ORGANIZED people even though they worship with the same organization!

So, you are in an organized religion?


You pray too not minding whether Muslims , Ogun worshippers, Adeboye, .... pray


The question you are dodging still remains: does God never hear, answer our prayers because we don't pray in JWs' way?

MightySparrow:



So, you are in an organized religion?


You pray too not minding whether Muslims , Ogun worshippers, Adeboye, .... pray


The question you are dodging still remains: does God never hear, answer our prayers because we don't pray in JWs' way?

Really this is my first time hearing about Jehovah's witness pattern of prayer

Agbaka1997:


Really this is my first time hearing about Jehovah's witness pattern of prayer

maximumSide claims they don't pray the way we pray. You can see community delusion. If some people have access to God, they can ask Him not to answer the prayers of people outside their organization.

The funny thing about JWs is they have limited God in their knowledge. They claim that God does not perform any miracles now. The question is why do they pray?
I believe it is what is beyond one that is pushed to God in prayers.

MightySparrow:


maximumSide claims they don't pray the way we pray. You can see community delusion. If some people have access to God, they can ask Him not to answer the prayers of people outside their organization.

The funny thing about JWs is they have limited God in their knowledge. They claim that God does not perform any miracles now. The question is why do they pray?
I believe it is what is beyond one that is pushed to God in prayers.

The level of division ➗ in Christianity is something else.

Agbaka1997:


The level of division ➗ in Christianity is something else.

These are the leftists causing the division.

MightySparrow:

So, you are in an organized religion?
You pray too not minding whether Muslims , Ogun worshippers, Adeboye, .... pray
The question you are dodging still remains: does God never hear, answer our prayers because we don't pray in JWs' way?

How am i supposed to answer whether your god is faithful to you people or not?

What i know is our own God you should be able to speak for yours o!

Agbaka1997:

Really this is my first time hearing about Jehovah's witness pattern of prayer

Well there is no religion on planet earth that's prayerful more than Jehovah's Witnesses.
We pray all the time.
The problem most people have with us is ignorance regarding what we do and what we don't do.
We won't pray with a stranger because it's against the scriptures.
First of all our God detests such prayer because before we can take someone to our God in prayer we must tell him or her what our God like and dislike otherwise our God will be irritated with such prayer {Proverbs 28:9} God forbid us not to pray in behalf of people who don't want to obey His laws {Jeremiah 11:14} that's why Jesus will never ever pray with anyone who is not ready to live by his teachings! John 17:8-9

But when we are with our fellow believers we pray incessantly!

MaxInDHouse:


How am i supposed to answer whether your god is faithful to you people or not?

What i know is our own God you should be able to speak for yours o!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VgSGzkTxEg

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Fasting has also been linked to increased growth and development of new brain cells, improving mood, memory, and learning capacity. It makes the brain more resilient to stress and adaptable to change. #Ramadan #Fasting #HealthBenefits #Wellbeing #SpiritualGrowth

MaxInDHouse:

Well there is no religion on planet earth that's prayerful more than Jehovah's Witnesses.
We pray all the time.
The problem most people have with us is ignorance regarding what we do and what we don't do.
We won't pray with a stranger because it's against the scriptures.
First of all our God detests such prayer because before we can take someone to our God in prayer we must tell him or her what our God like and dislike otherwise our God will be irritated with such prayer {Proverbs 28:9} God forbid us not to pray in behalf of people who don't want to obey His laws {Jeremiah 11:14} that's why Jesus will never ever pray with anyone who is not ready to live by his teachings! John 17:8-9

But when we are with our fellow believers we pray incessantly!

Muslims are more prayerful



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VgSGzkTxEg

Ramadan, the ninth month of the Islamic calendar, is a sacred time for Muslims worldwide, marked by fasting, reflection, and devotion to Allah. While many understand the spiritual significance of fasting, fewer know about the numerous health benefits that come with it. Fasting during Ramadan can have a profound impact on both physical and mental well-being, regulating "bad" cholesterol, curbing appetite, and detoxifying the body.

Fasting has also been linked to increased growth and development of new brain cells, improving mood, memory, and learning capacity. It makes the brain more resilient to stress and adaptable to change. #Ramadan #Fasting #HealthBenefits #Wellbeing #SpiritualGrowth

Agbaka1997:

Muslims are more prayerful.

Well that's false because i can tell you categorically that Muslims only make a show of whatever they are doing.
However are you a Muslim?

MaxInDHouse:


How am i supposed to answer whether your god is faithful to you people or not?

What i know is our own God you should be able to speak for yours o!

If I get you right, you said atheists do not pray to get necessities of life. I agree.

Do you pray?
If you do, about what?

Simple.

I know you believe because we pray outside and do not follow JWs pattern of prayers, Jehovah does not answer us..

MightySparrow:

Because we pray outside and do not follow JWs pattern of prayers, Jehovah does not answer us..

I told you:

Humble yourself and ask for a free home Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses!

Well for the benefit of others following this thread, Jehovah makes His rain fall both on the righteous as well as the unrighteous {Matthew 5:45} it's only what He promised His own worshipers that no other religion could have since you people don't value what He promised you can't know that He has nothing to do your prayers everything you people are experiencing in the same with atheists, agnostics or any other religion.

Can you mention one thing you people have that's beneficial for all to see that atheists and agnostics don't have?

MaxInDHouse:


I told you:

Humble yourself and ask for a free home Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses!

Well for the benefit of others following this thread, Jehovah makes His rain fall both on the righteous as well as the unrighteous {Matthew 5:45} it's only what He promised His own worshipers that no other religion could have since you people don't value what He promised you can't know that He has nothing to do your prayers everything you people are experiencing in the same with atheists, agnostics or any other religion.

Can you mention one thing you people have that's beneficial for all to see that atheists and agnostics don't have?

One thing I can attest about Jehovah witnesses is they don't follow the crowd.

Agbaka1997:

One thing I can attest about Jehovah witnesses is they don't follow the crowd.

You must not follow after the crowd to do evil, and you must not pervert justice by giving testimony to go along with the crowd. Exodus 23:2

We ourselves are a great crowd {Revelations 7:9} but we move together for sound reason!

MaxInDHouse:


I told you:

Humble yourself and ask for a free home Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses!

Well for the benefit of others following this thread, Jehovah makes His rain fall both on the righteous as well as the unrighteous {Matthew 5:45} it's only what He promised His own worshipers that no other religion could have since you people don't value what He promised you can't know that He has nothing to do your prayers everything you people are experiencing in the same with atheists, agnostics or any other religion.

Can you mention one thing you people have that's beneficial for all to see that atheists and agnostics don't have?

I have told you severally. Atheists do not believe in God. I call on my God he healed me, my wife and daughter of what medically, they say are incurable. With your righteousness, you are not sure if you can boldly call on the same God, He will answer you. Haba, you want me to submit my conference in my God in humility to your delusion.

You are the one to learn absolute dependence on God from me not the other way round.

Mind you, I have your people around me and apart from quoting from Genesis to Revelations, they don't know God. What syllabus ate you bringing now different from the one I have been hearing over four decades?