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Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by oyichi: 6:51pm On Mar 09
An ndokwa man is not ibo, that we have a language that is a little similar to ibo due to influence of neighboring language does not make us ibos, the ibos that are in our land takes time to lean our language before understanding it, we will not be part of it, ibos please stay away

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Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by AdeYORUFAFO: 6:52pm On Mar 09
owobokiri:



The socalled 13% derivation fund is a paltry sum to be given to oil producing states. Starting point should be around 50 to 60%. That was what it used to be before the war. In any event, some Northern oil well owners make more money in a month that some states in the oil producing areas. 13% is unacceptable. Oyo is not giving us all her money from cocoa sales, while waiting for the federal government to give them just 13% afterwards. Sokoto is not paying any tax on livestock sales not to talk of the solid minerals excavated from there. Let the oil states make their monies and give a little to the feds..

Gbam! That’s my point exactly. States should control their resources and remit the 13% derivation to the federal government.
This is what we should be clamoring for.
The divide and conquer is just a diversionary tactic.

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Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by Ojiofor: 7:06pm On Mar 09
The writer is being myopic the insecurity in southeast will not last forever soon i.pob and other ekperima groups will rest in peace IJN.

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Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by AdeYORUFAFO: 7:16pm On Mar 09
oyichi:
An ndokwa man is not ibo, that we have a language that is a little similar to ibo due to influence of neighboring language does not make us ibos, the ibos that are in our land takes time to lean our language before understanding it, we will not be part of it, ibos please stay away

Olaudah Equiano after escaping his captors during the transatlantic slave trade wrote books about his Igbo ancestry. He wrote that he is from Assaka which is believed to be Ashaka in present day Ndokwa east of Delta state.
I understand that you probably identify more with your mother’s side, but the historical, linguistic, cultural and genealogical relationship between the Ndokwa people and the other Igbos across the Niger is just too remarkable.
Ndokwa language is actually an Igbo dialect, but I respect your choices to identify as any tribe you want to identify with. Igbo is a Nation not a tribe.
Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by AdeYORUFAFO: 7:19pm On Mar 09
Ojiofor:
The writer is being myopic the insecurity in southeast will not last forever soon i.pob and other ekperima groups will rest in peace IJN.

Gbam! IPOB will die a natural death eventually and the SE will regain its place as the most peaceful region. Let’s not forget that it wasn’t so long ago that the SS was plagued by militants. Then PH was too hot to even visit.

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Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by mrvitalis(m): 7:23pm On Mar 09
Ruke1989:
Sir, there are many right thinking people like you especially among the ndokwa people of anioma. Ndokwa people resources will be used by the ika, Onitsha and Aniocha people to the detriment of the Ndokwa. Speaking similar languages doesn't always guarantee that everyone will be fairly treated. Anioma has various dialects and the weakest politically are the ndokwa people who have been historically neglected even by their ika brother okowa when he was governor.

Igbos oppressed ikwere when they were together in eastern region that's why ikweres hate to be identified as Igbo. Similar thing may play out in the new anioma state because Aniocha and Onitsha people see themselves as one and don't regard the Ndokwa as much so it's going to be a political miscalculation for the ndokwa since Nigeria politicians focus on the dividing factors during campaign irrespective of tribe
So who is using the resources now and where is it used to develop
Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by Ojiofor: 7:33pm On Mar 09
AdeYORUFAFO:


Gbam! IPOB will die a natural death eventually and the SE will regain its place as the most peaceful region. Let’s not forget that it wasn’t so long ago that the SS was plagued by militants. Then PH was too hot to even visit.

GBAM!
Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by gidgiddy: 7:35pm On Mar 09
AdeYORUFAFO:


Gbam! IPOB will die a natural death eventually and the SE will regain its place as the most peaceful region. Let’s not forget that it wasn’t so long ago that the SS was plagued by militants. Then PH was too hot to even visit.

The question lis, why does your country produce militancy at all?
Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by ehikwe22: 7:36pm On Mar 09
Stolen:
REALITY IS, ANIOMA PEOPLE ARE SE IGBO PEOPLE.


ONE SECTION OF THEM ARE ALREADY IN ANAMBRA AND PROUD TO BE NDI-ANAMBRA AND NDI-IGBO. E.G YES SAME ANIOMA PEOPLE ACROSS THE RIVER NIGER.



Y HOLD DEM WITH IJAW AND URHOBO WEN THEY HAVE THEIR ANIOMA PEOPLE OVER IN ANAMBRA TO JOIN? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?



WEN U DO THINGS THAT DONT MAKE SENSE, HOW DO U GET A VIABALE COUNTRY THAT IS SUCCESSFUL?



SO, ANYBODY THAT CHOOSES TO BE DELUSIONAL IS ONLY FOOLING THEMSELVES ABOUT THE REALITY ON GROUND.



THE SOLE SENATOR REPRESENTING ANIOMA HAVE RIGHTFULLY CALLED FOR HIS PEOPLE TO BE REMOVED FROM SS AND REUNITED WITH THEIR KITH AND KIN IN SE.



BLACKS CAN CHOOSE TO REMAIN BACKWARD BY ALWAYS DOING THE WRONG THING OR U CAN FOR A CHANGE TAKE A STEP FOWARD BY DOING THE RIGHT.

If we have Anioma people in Anambra, then they should join us in Delta because we're majority. And fyi, there's nothing like a collective Anioma. Are there some Enuani related groups, probably. They should join Delta and unite with their Enuani brothers. I as an Ika man has nothing to do with your Igbo or even the ACRONYM called Anioma
Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by AdeYORUFAFO: 7:48pm On Mar 09
gidgiddy:


The question lis, why does your country produce militancy at all?

It is your country too, so figure it out.
Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by BrodaBenad: 7:54pm On Mar 09
Stolen:



ANIOMA STATED CREATED IS AUTOMATICALLY SE ZONE.

IF U WENT TO SCHOOL AND READ GEOGRAPHY, U WOULD KNOW THEIR LOCATION IS SE ON THE BANK OF THE RIVER NIGER.




THEY ARE NOT ON THE COAST.

You must be a dummy


North central crossed river Niger


Anioma Will be part of SE
Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by oyichi: 8:01pm On Mar 09
AdeYORUFAFO:


Olaudah Equiano after escaping his captors during the transatlantic slave trade wrote books about his Igbo ancestry. He wrote that he is from Assaka which is believed to be Ashaka in present day Ndokwa east of Delta state.
I understand that you probably identify more with your mother’s side, but the historical, linguistic, cultural and genealogical relationship between the Ndokwa people and the other Igbos across the Niger is just too remarkable.
Ndokwa language is actually an Igbo dialect, but I respect your choices to identify as any tribe you want to identify with. Igbo is a Nation not a tribe.
thanks for the write up, I know ashaka but that name is too weild to us but we don't have any historical, linguistics cultural and genealogical relationship with igbos as you call it, infact, the meaning of Igbo in our language here is slave, am sorry to use that language but it is the truth
Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by BloomingDale(f): 8:03pm On Mar 09
Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by BloomingDale(f): 8:05pm On Mar 09
oyichi:
thanks for the write up, I know ashaka but that name is too weild to us but we don't have any historical, linguistics cultural and genealogical relationship with igbos as you call it, infact, the meaning of Igbo in our language here is slave, am sorry to use that language but it is the truth

Ashakas are Isokos.
Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by Stolen: 8:05pm On Mar 09
BloomingDale:


Lol.


BENIN BEFORE YORUBA INVADERS ARRIVED?
Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by Stolen: 8:06pm On Mar 09
U DO KNOW THAT YORUBA INVADED BENIN AND THEIR WAS A WAR RIGHT, WHICH CAUSED PEOPLE TO FLEE?
Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by BloomingDale(f): 8:06pm On Mar 09
BrodaBenad:


You must be a dummy

North central crossed river Niger

Anioma Will be part of SE


No we won’t. No one speaks anything resembling Igbo in my mother’s village.
Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by Stolen: 8:08pm On Mar 09
BloomingDale:


No we won’t. No one speaks anything resembling Igbo in my mother’s village in Ndokwa.


A TIME WILL COME, WHEN WE WILL GET THINGS RIGHT IN NIGERIA.

MEANING, WE WILL DO THINGS MATHEMATICALLY LIKE THE WHITE OR EUROPEAN.

THEN, PEOPLE WILL EXPLAIN TO US WHO THEY ARE AND WHERE THEY CAME FROM, IN THE MEANTIME GO TO IDP.
Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by AdeYORUFAFO: 8:13pm On Mar 09
oyichi:
thanks for the write up, I know ashaka but that name is too weild to us but we don't have any historical, linguistics cultural and genealogical relationship with igbos as you call it, infact, the meaning of Igbo in our language here is slave, am sorry to use that language but it is the truth

lol. This is your personal opinion and it is not representative of the truth. Igbo is one of the major ethnic groups in Nigeria, so there’s no way the Igbos could have been enslaved by a very minor Ndokwa (Assuming that Ndokwa people are not Igbo), so it is etymologically impossible for Igbo to mean slave in Ndokwa dialect.
Also, talking about slavery, the Ndokwa people were enslaved by the Benin Empire, so you’ve got your history wrong.
Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by Stolen: 8:17pm On Mar 09
ALL I WILL ADD IS KEEP ENJOYING YOUR CHAOS, ONE DAY IT WILL ALL CHANGE.


SEE WHITE AND CALL IT BLACK AS MUCH AS U LIKE, U HEAR, IT CAN NEVER TURN THE WHITE TO BLACK.

A FACT NEVER CHANGES, EVEN IF HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS AWAY.




FOR NOW, ALL WE DO IS SIT BACK AND WATCH U MAKE A FOOL OUT OF YOURSELF AND LAUGH.

IF THE WHITES WERE IN CHARGE OF NIGERIA DO U THINK WE WOULD BE HAVING THIS RET.ARDED CONVERSATION?

DO U KNOW THEIR ARE THINGS NOT OPEN FOR DEBATE, BECAUSE IT IS RE.TARDED?
Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by aswani(m): 8:31pm On Mar 09
Nelsondiego69:
anioma or another state should be created and added to complete the SE to the normal 6. E get many why’s

Anioma coming out of Delta will add a state to South South not South East. Sorry to burst your bubble.

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Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by AdeYORUFAFO: 8:48pm On Mar 09
aswani:


Anioma coming out of Delta will add a state to South South not South East. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Your Yoruba opinion is not needed here. Also, whether SE or SS, Anioma people are Igbos.

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Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by gidgiddy: 8:49pm On Mar 09
oyichi:
An ndokwa man is not ibo, that we have a language that is a little similar to ibo due to influence of neighboring language does not make us ibos, the ibos that are in our land takes time to lean our language before understanding it, we will not be part of it, ibos please stay away

Influence of neighbouring language? So why cant Ndokwa speak Uhrobo/Sokoto that is next door to them?
Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by aswani(m): 9:07pm On Mar 09
AdeYORUFAFO:


Your Yoruba opinion is not needed here. Also, whether SE or SS, Anioma people are Igbos.

Feel free to go and set up your own discussion portal, I promise to stay away.

You can also ignore my posts, I would be OK with it.

Once more, for the hard of hearing, this is a Nigerian portal to discuss Nigerian matters.
Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by Stolen: 9:23pm On Mar 09
AdeYORUFAFO:


Your Yoruba opinion is not needed here. Also, whether SE or SS, Anioma people are Igbos.


FACT!
Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by DMerciful(m): 9:58pm On Mar 09
You guys fight over nothing like children.
Anioma state should be created and Nigeria should adopt a more equitable system of sharing resources
Ruke1989:
Sir, there are many right thinking people like you especially among the ndokwa people of anioma. Ndokwa people resources will be used by the ika, Onitsha and Aniocha people to the detriment of the Ndokwa. Speaking similar languages doesn't always guarantee that everyone will be fairly treated. Anioma has various dialects and the weakest politically are the ndokwa people who have been historically neglected even by their ika brother okowa when he was governor.

Igbos oppressed ikwere when they were together in eastern region that's why ikweres hate to be identified as Igbo. Similar thing may play out in the new anioma state because Aniocha and Onitsha people see themselves as one and don't regard the Ndokwa as much so it's going to be a political miscalculation for the ndokwa since Nigeria politicians focus on the dividing factors during campaign irrespective of tribe
Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by RevDesm0ndJuju: 10:09pm On Mar 09
Stolen:
REALITY IS, ANIOMA PEOPLE ARE SE IGBO PEOPLE.


ONE SECTION OF THEM ARE ALREADY IN ANAMBRA AND PROUD TO BE NDI-ANAMBRA AND NDI-IGBO. E.G YES SAME ANIOMA PEOPLE ACROSS THE RIVER NIGER.



Y HOLD DEM WITH IJAW AND URHOBO WEN THEY HAVE THEIR ANIOMA PEOPLE OVER IN ANAMBRA TO JOIN? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?



WEN U DO THINGS THAT DONT MAKE SENSE, HOW DO U GET A VIABALE COUNTRY THAT IS SUCCESSFUL?



SO, ANYBODY THAT CHOOSES TO BE DELUSIONAL IS ONLY FOOLING THEMSELVES ABOUT THE REALITY ON GROUND.



THE SOLE SENATOR REPRESENTING ANIOMA HAVE RIGHTFULLY CALLED FOR HIS PEOPLE TO BE REMOVED FROM SS AND REUNITED WITH THEIR KITH AND KIN IN SE.



BLACKS CAN CHOOSE TO REMAIN BACKWARD BY ALWAYS DOING THE WRONG THING OR U CAN FOR A CHANGE TAKE A STEP FOWARD BY DOING THE RIGHT.

The constitutional process for state creation involves conducting a referendum among the people within the proposed area .

The Asaba people no longer have a choice in the matter haven sold their lands to ibos. Ibos from across the Niger are the dominant population in Asaba now and they will vote for Asaba to leave Delta. This is great as far as I am concerned as the demographics of Asaba and environs has since been taken over by Ibos. Long before Ned came out with his bill, I wrote here advocating for Delta south and Central to consider having their own state. Thank God Ned in his infinite stupidity has started Anioma project on his own accord .

In a few years, no indigene of Anioma will ever get to govern or represent his or her state. Instead it will be you ibos .

The fact that you who is not indegenous to Anioma is here hyperventilating over the genuine concerns, fears and reservation of this Ndokwa man shows your real intentions in wanting this Anioma to be added to the SE.


FYI, if the Ndokwa refuse to be part of Anioma by voting in a referendum not to leave Delta state, there's nothing you IPOB land grabbing theives can do about it .I will tell you now that outside Asaba and Ika, no other people of Delta north will agree to join Ned in his foolhardy adventure that is only geared towards making Ned to answer Mr Governor for 8yrs max.
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Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by RevDesm0ndJuju: 10:16pm On Mar 09
AdeYORUFAFO:


Your Yoruba opinion is not needed here. Also, whether SE or SS, Anioma people are Igbos.

And it's not you to decide.

The author is from Delta North and an Ndukwa man to be precise and he has stated his reservations towards having Anioma join the SE. It is people like the author that will vote in any future plebiscite and not you meddlesome interlopers from across the Niger.

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Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by AdeYORUFAFO: 10:25pm On Mar 09
RevDesm0ndJuju:


And it's not you to decide.

The author is from Delta North and an Ndukwa man to be precise and he has stated his reservations towards having Anioma join the SE. It is people like the author that will vote in any future plebiscite and not you meddlesome interlopers from across the Niger.

First, it is Ndokwa and not Ndukwa.
Second, the leaders of Delta north all agree that Anioma deserves a state, so whether SE or SS is irrelevant as the constitution does not recognize geopolitical zones. We are all Igbos irrespective of a political terminology.
Third, an overwhelming majority of Delta Igbos value the opinion of their kin across the Niger.
Fourth, you’re the meddling interloper here as your Yoruba opinion is neither wanted nor needed. So focus on pressing issues in your Yoruba land like the division among Ibadan, aworis, Ijebus, ilajes etc; the rampant ritualism; white collar fraud among your Yoruba; criminality among your Obas; your perpetual state of hunger etc.

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Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by RevDesm0ndJuju: 10:31pm On Mar 09
Ojiofor:
The writer is being myopic the insecurity in southeast will not last forever soon i.pob and other ekperima groups will rest in peace IJN.

If this Anioma thing scale through to which I am totally in support of, one thing is sure irrespective of which Zone Anioma is attached to , and that is no Anioma indigene will ever rule that state after the buffon Ned finishes his term as governor. From that point on, Anioma will be like Lagos and be ruled and politically dominated by core ibos .

I am very happy that Ned is doing Gods work by advocating for Anioma because Asaba is now dominated by you ibos - a scenario I wrote here long before Ned came out with his bill did not augur well for us non ibos in Delta south and Central.

A scenario were the state capital is overrun by Ibo migrants will sooner or later offset the fragile rotational system in place .

Delta will eventually end up looking like both Rivers and Lagos with the dominant migrant ibos from outside the state dominating the political sphere .

I thank God we have a very foolish and myopic individual like NEd doing us a favour by advocating to carry Anioma away with its very potent Ibo problem .
Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by RevDesm0ndJuju: 10:34pm On Mar 09
AdeYORUFAFO:


First, it is Ndokwa and not Ndukwa.
Second, the leaders of Delta north all agree that Anioma deserves a state, so whether SE or SS is irrelevant as the constitution does not recognize geopolitical zones. We are all Igbos irrespective of a political terminology.
Third, an overwhelming majority of Delta Igbos value the opinion of their kin across the Niger.
Fourth, you’re the meddling interloper here as your Yoruba opinion is neither wanted nor needed. So focus on pressing issues in your Yoruba land like the division among Ibadan, aworis, Ijebus, ilajes etc; the rampant ritualism; white collar fraud among your Yoruba; criminality among your Obas; your perpetual state of hunger etc.

Just ensure that this Anioma thing happens .

I don't want there ever to be any mistake of dragging the entire Delta Ito your Biafra shithole


By the way , I am from Delta south .
Re: Anioma State: A Misguided Proposal With Dangerous Implications. by RevDesm0ndJuju: 10:37pm On Mar 09
AdeYORUFAFO:


First, it is Ndokwa and not Ndukwa.
Second, the leaders of Delta north all agree that Anioma deserves a state, so whether SE or SS is irrelevant as the constitution does not recognize geopolitical zones. We are all Igbos irrespective of a political terminology.
Third, an overwhelming majority of Delta Igbos value the opinion of their kin across the Niger.
Fourth, you’re the meddling interloper here as your Yoruba opinion is neither wanted nor needed. So focus on pressing issues in your Yoruba land like the division among Ibadan, aworis, Ijebus, ilajes etc; the rampant ritualism; white collar fraud among your Yoruba; criminality among your Obas; your perpetual state of hunger etc.


Read this thread I created here.

https://www.nairaland.com/7860905/abia-belongs-ibibio#126120837


You will understand why I am so happy to hear of Anioma state creation and why I am in total support of it .

You hypocrites will castigate Yorubas for claiming Lagos but see what you are all doing by dragging Anioma. Well it's good riddance as far as I am concerned

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