gbadexy:
The full free painting promo on purchase of premium regal paint products would end this month while the free ceiling and fence spraying would continue.

twinskenny:


This offer for me too boss?

Billions123:

I'm quite interested in why your dad wasn't aware of the initial purchase. This is because I'm tilted towards his stance of selling off that place, so I want to be sure it's truly from a rational POV.

Also, you mentioned the house beside and the one opposite being marked for demolition by the government, why is yours not marked? Are you sure it's not part of the reason the place was sold?

Just like your father rightly said, a lot of engineers are just after getting paid, infact, all engineers are. If the house sinks you cannot sue the engineer or hold him responsible because all he did was give you his opinion and you sanctioned it, you approved it. Unless you hand the contract off to a construction company to deliver at completion. I'm sure no construction company would authorise a renovation on sinking property, because they know they will bear the loss if anything happens, they will advice you to demolish and restart.

Also, your mum might just be excited her son is finally bouyant enough to get things done, nobody will spoil her shine. You will probably hear things like "God will not allow our own house sink", "since i didnt spoil anybody's own, God will not allow the government demolish our own". All these are from the place of love, but when the gbege happens, all she can do is cry.

For your Dad to go as far as suggesting you even sell at a loss and buy somewhere else, I want you to really consider it.

All the best.

Jaakay:
Good day all, Please I need help with quote given to me to plaster a 4br duplex with 1br & 2br flats attached to it:

Decking: 600k
Inside wall: 1.4m
Outside wall: 1.5m
Paraphate: 600k.

I know this an attempt to reap me off, but wanted to check if anyone could offer advice on how to pay this kind of work.

Ayohbk:
Hello house,

Please I'm in a mentally stressful situation Right now and I hope people on this thread can help resolve it.

Late last Year, My mom help me get a property in Lagos, it's an old one storey building and we planned to renovate it. We did the survey, also integrity test, structural test and stuff like that, only money to pay Labca is remaining as those ones are asking for huge money. After all the testing they said the building can be renovated and pillars are needed for support. Please note that I was not in Nigeria during all these process.

So I visited Nigeria last month and visited the place, I noticed that the building opposite it and the one beside it were marked for demolition by government. I talked to the engineer about it , he insisted that the building we bought is ok and it's not effected, that we can renovate and make it structurally strong. He stated that we wouldn't have gotten approval if that's not true. Please note that I'm not very experienced in construction work.

Before leaving Nigeria, I took my Dad to the building and at first sight he got angry with the purchase insisting that it's a sinking site. We noticed that the boys quarters of the building is sinking already(though we already planned to demolish it anyway). We also noticed that there are some cracks on the wall of the building. We discussed this with the engineer, and he insisted that everything Will be fixed and there will be no issue.

I left Nigeria after the stated assurance. The plan was to actually start with the renovation last month, but the payment of omo onile money and also negotiations with Labca is what's delaying start of work. Since I left Nigeria, my dad has been calling me repeatedly that we should not start work that the site is a sinking area. He said the engineer only wants to continue with the work because of money he'll get paid. And my Dad also said the integrity test and structural tests don't mean anything.

He insists I sell the building even if at a loss. Because he believes the building has to be demolished completely and new stronger foundation done, and this will cost a lot of money. My mum and the engineer think otherwise. This is causing issues in the family already. I already made money available for the renovation. Please note it's a one storey building and we intend to keep it that way, just to modernize it and turn it into flats.

At this point I am stressed out and confused and don't know who to believe and what to Do. How can I be sure there'll be no issue in the future if we continue with construction?

acmebuilding:


Did you go to LASBCA for renovation permit or they came to you? what are the LASBCA officials looking for? if it is just renovation "fees", they are looking to fleece you. if they are looking for structural certification and documents it is better.

From your description of the neigboring houses, it seems the area has a building settling problem, and the officials are planning to use your project to "eat". they are notorious for targeting such areas for extortion . Also, you need to get a complete qualified engineers report on the status of the building i.e on that covers the concrete and reinforcement condition, settling and what the renovations would do to the building). Not a fly-by-night assessment.(regardless of the Ultrapulse velocity testing done)

Your dad may have a point that this is a trouble in the making. you have not started work , yet you already have issues with LASBCA and structural/settlement problems, as the contractor is looking for his profit. I agree with diordaves. yes. there is a solution to all engineering problems. the question is at what cost.

I also noticed that the renovation would involve the demolishing of internal wall that would add stress to an already weakened structure. Also The engineer’s assurance that everything would be fixed is vague. adding columns to a sinking building is not a solution. the solution is underpinning and that is very expensive

Please find attached the minimum requirements if you do not want further disturbance from Lagos state planning officials.

From my experience in dealing with these kind of projects. the Lagos state officials would wait for you to start. it is when you have started and sunk money into the project, at the point of no turning back that they start giving you problems. I can assure you that even when you settle or satisfy LASBCA, they will still go ahead and report your project to LASPPA and LSMTL officials who will come to your site, seal it and start asking for all kinds of things.

If your work is not VERY paper tight, documented and indemnified and certified by a COREN registered engineer who knows how to deal with them, you are at their mercy. The fact that you are not in town is another thing.
Just my two cents.

Ayohbk:


Thanks for your feedback. The engineer gave a list of all the certifications and payment we have to do before we start the renovation. We are the ones going to Labca for approval, which is the last item on the engineers list. Also the certifications stated in your document we've done that too based on the recommendation of the engineer. But it's the engineer that did all the runnings, we just gave him the money. He then forwarded the certificates and documents. But I'm not sure how genuine the testings are, maybe they just collect money and give certificate. The engineer is a certified engineer, according to him and the title in the documents.

acmebuilding:



Without casting aspersions on the integrity of the engineer.

Either you get a second opinion or you consult an experienced engineer who has NO financial stake in the renovation. Someone who would also supervise if you decide to go forward since you have little building experience.

Building settling is not a minor thing and renovation/breaking of walls and addition of wall will add stress to the structure.

Jaakay:
Good day all, Please I need help with quote given to me to plaster a 4br duplex with 1br & 2br flats attached to it:

Decking: 600k
Inside wall: 1.4m
Outside wall: 1.5m
Paraphate: 600k.

I know this an attempt to reap me off, but wanted to check if anyone could offer advice on how to pay this kind of work.

Ayohbk:


Thanks for your feedback. The engineer gave a list of all the certifications and payment we have to do before we start the renovation. We are the ones going to Labca for approval, which is the last item on the engineers list. Also the certifications stated in your document we've done that too based on the recommendation of the engineer. But it's the engineer that did all the runnings, we just gave him the money. He then forwarded the certificates and documents. But I'm not sure how genuine the testings are, maybe they just collect money and give certificate. The engineer is a certified engineer, according to him and the title in the documents.

Jaakay:
Good day all, Please I need help with quote given to me to plaster a 4br duplex with 1br & 2br flats attached to it:

Decking: 600k
Inside wall: 1.4m
Outside wall: 1.5m
Paraphate: 600k.

I know this an attempt to reap me off, but wanted to check if anyone could offer advice on how to pay this kind of work.

Ayohbk:


Thanks for your feedback. We were searching for a property. This one came from an area and people familiar with my mum. To be honest with you there are also underlying issues.
Please see the pictures of the building my brother took today
@diordaves

Ayohbk:


Thanks for your feedback. We were searching for a property. This one came from an area and people familiar with my mum. To be honest with you there are also underlying issues.
Please see the pictures of the building my brother took today
@diordaves

bixton:



Firstly I'll say doing daily pay for block work is not favourable. I don't even remember who works like that for block work anymore.
It's better you do counting and they will do more per day and you pay them based on the nubmer.

For the one with #1.3M, I'm guessing maybe he might be charging you for not only block work. Maybe he has incorporated doing the carpentry and iron work....

It's just an assumption.

But it's better, you ask him to tell you the breakdown for the #1.3M he is charging you. He is in the best position to enlighten you so we don't outrightly misjudge him.

bixton:



Firstly I'll say doing daily pay for block work is not favourable. I don't even remember who works like that for block work anymore.
It's better you do counting and they will do more per day and you pay them based on the nubmer.

For the one with #1.3M, I'm guessing maybe he might be charging you for not only block work. Maybe he has incorporated doing the carpentry and iron work....

It's just an assumption.

But it's better, you ask him to tell you the breakdown for the #1.3M he is charging you. He is in the best position to enlighten you so we don't outrightly misjudge him.

christ007:
Dose anyone know the current price and sand and granite in Asaba please any one who know and have someone in asaba that know the price of sand per trip and granite 10 tons please

floshady02:
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fohiss:



He clearly said the 1.3M is for Workmanship... And nothing more... That I will be the one to be buying cement daily for him to work and when is time to use carpenter, I will also provide it, and also buy granite as well ... That the 1.3M is just for workmanship

floshady02:
@cash1115 Drop your contact