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Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by Gandrova: 11:56am On Mar 23
Audezy:





And why should he honor an agreement with Terrorists?
Terrorist to you, Resistance to the Palestinians.
Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by smokinloud(m): 11:56am On Mar 23
Eze2000:



You may know Palestine in ancient times better as philistine

Just like you will know modern Italy better as Rome
The philistines then were Europeans that COLONISED the region. They were never Arabs.

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Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by Gandrova: 11:58am On Mar 23
Period007:

If terrorism in Nigeria is politically financed, why aren't muslims condemning atrocities committed by muslims in Nigeria.
Where is your condemnation of fulani terrorists.

Terrorism is religiously motivated, 95% of terrorism in Nigeria is committed by muslims that is why you don't see any Muslim condemning it.

Stop your Taqiyya
Lol! Propaganda of the highest order.
Always back your point what claim.
Not beer parlour analysis
Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by Krismas(m): 12:01pm On Mar 23
smokinloud:
ZIONIST founded modern Israel in 1948 and from 1948 to 1979 when Islam invaded Iran Jews population was over 100k but immediately after Iran's modern islamic conquest the Jews population plummeted drastically and you're not even ashamed of saying this rubbish. Did ZIONISM begin their campaign in 1980?. Is Iran a democratic state?. What laws has the Jews made in Iran since 1979 ?. How has the Jews participated in the government of Iran?.!. You should stop drinking camel's urine. I get many mentions at a time anyways that's why I've not been able to reply some of ur mentions.
grin The issue is dat u are very ignorant. Jew have been moving out of Iran since the 1950s. So what are u talking about?
Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by Eze2000(m): 12:07pm On Mar 23
smokinloud:

The philistines then were Europeans that COLONISED the region. They were never Arabs.


The only European that had time for the Middle East that early... Old testament... were are the Romans, the Greeks amd the Turks

And they are definitely not Philistines

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Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by IyfeNamikaze(m): 12:13pm On Mar 23
Eze2000:



If you study history well you notice won't thing almost no ancient nation or place maintains is original name today

That which you call philistine is actually Palestine today and they still own Gaza

Most of what you said is actually correct but the problem is Jacob and Joseph are single people not nations. There is no way the Arab will seed land to Israel because one man lived on the land first
No it is not! Please do yourself a favour and study the kingdom of philistia, see it's borders and see how it does not correlate with the current borders of Palestine and Israel.
Before the Philistines there were the Amaleks who were the original inhabitant of the Gaza Area and the Negev desert. These Amalekites were displaced by the Philistines who came from Greece, they're non Semitic people from mesopotamia, they're not your current Arab who bare the name Palestinians!
You have data so use it and Google the origin of that name, Palestine, you will see that it was a derogatory name given to Judea and Israel by the Romans after they squashed the Jewish rebellion, the Bar Kokhba revolt in 135 AD. The name was changed to Palestinia/ Palestine to remove the identity of the Jews who inhabited that land. Ask yourself a question, where was Palestine during the time of Christ? Why were there no mention of it all through the 4 AD to 130 AD? That's because there was never a thing as Palestine or Palestinia until 135AD.

During the time of the kingdom of philistia, there were also the Jebusites, the Moabites, the Hittites and the Amorites. All these were kingdoms existing at that time on that same area that we currently know as Isreal and the west bank. Each of these kingdoms had their respective borders alongside the kingdom of Israel, they weren't all called philistia because they aren't philistians who were Europeans! So if you're now saying that philistians are the original owners of the land then you're invariably saying that that whole place (Israel and Palestine) belongs to the Europeans! Do you now not see how preposterous that sounds?
Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by Krismas(m): 12:16pm On Mar 23
smokinloud:

LIES, THE HASMONEAN DYNASTY WAS A JEWISH DYNASTY HASMON IS A HEBREW NAME. JESUS PREDICTED THAT JERUSALEM WILL FALL AND IT FELL IN 70AD. WHAT LED TO THE FALL WAS THAT THE JEWS WERE TIRED OF COLONIAL RULE SO THEY REBELLED AGAINST THE GREEKS AND THEY LOST. GREEK HUMILIATED THEM BY NAMING JERUSALEM PALESTINE (THE NAME OF JEWS GREATEST ENEMY)... YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT JEWS CARVED OUT PALESTINE FROM SYRIA AND BE TELLING ME THAT PALESTINE DOES NOT BELONG TO THE JEWS.
grin Nonsense and another fool liked and shared it.
If Hasmonean is Jewish, why is the story not in the bible?
Hasmonean dynasty reigned over Palestine for a hundred years, so how did they lose?
They successfully got their kingdom from Seleucid of Syria.
Jerusalem is an Acadian name, given to the city wen the Sumerians were colonizing the levant. It has nothing to do with Hebrew.
Palestine is d name of the people of the land and its not Greek grin
Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by smokinloud(m): 12:19pm On Mar 23
Krismas:
grin the Merneptah stele was clear about men and women of israel. israel has never been mentioned as a country.
you can see a man and woman in the stele or are u blind?
The yellow circles mean Israel. The red (men and women) means Nations the green (thrown stick) means foreign land. Besides this there are evidences of Israel kings more than dozens of them

Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by smokinloud(m): 12:25pm On Mar 23
Krismas:
grin Nonsense and another fool liked and shared it.
If Hasmonean is Jewish, why is the story not in the bible?
Hasmonean dynasty reigned over Palestine for a hundred years, so how did they lose?
They successfully got their kingdom from Seleucid of Syria.
Jerusalem is an Acadian name, given to the city wen the Sumerians were colonizing the levant. It has nothing to do with Hebrew.
Palestine is d name of the people of the land and its not Greek grin
HASMONEAN DYNASTY history is recorded in the bible. 1 and 2nd Macabees. It's your ignorance that makes you think Jerusalem MEANS CITY OF PEACE in Hebrew but you're just too ignorant to understand...
Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by smokinloud(m): 12:26pm On Mar 23
Eze2000:



The only European that had time for the Middle East that early... Old testament... were are the Romans, the Greeks amd the Turks

And they are definitely not Philistines





The GREEKS were the Philistines. Make research.

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Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by Krismas(m): 12:27pm On Mar 23
smokinloud:

Maybe you don't understand that ISRAEL willingly gave the Westbank to Arabs for peace and the Arabs signed agreement with them on it. There are divisions in West Bank. Area A is where Arabs controlled. Area B is where Arabs and Jews controlled FATTAH AND IDF must work together... Area C is where the Jews control. If Israel destroys farms and settlements in Area C it does not concern the Arabs. Israel has the right to destroy buildings in Area A if those buildings are a threat to the security of Israel according to the Oslo's agreement they signed before handing the region over to Arabs for peace. Fattah has to be peaceful inorder to remain on the land.
grin shut up u ignorant LIAR.
Oslo accord in simple terms was a fake agreement Israel had with the FOOLISH Fatah by which Israel will take almost 70% of Westbank.
Hamas has since sentenced Fatah to death for such staggering betrayal of the Palestinian people.
Westbank is not Israel's property. Its not theirs to take or give
Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by justli: 12:27pm On Mar 23
Gandrova:
You should be fair in your analysis. Hamas said the real proposal should be adhere to.
But satanyahoo refused.
Why is difficult for him to adhere to it?
We should have conscience.
Almighty Allah that created Muslims and Christians have never made a mistake.
We should be fair in our rational thinking

But hamas isn't rational. Hamas is a terrorist group that forcefully took over power. In the first trench, Israel released 1800 Palestinians in captive while hamas released 33 Israelis. The control of Gaza must be withdrawn from hamas. And Israel will not stop until hamas is obliterated

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Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by Elusive001: 12:29pm On Mar 23
Period007:

If terrorism in Nigeria is politically financed, why aren't muslims condemning atrocities committed by muslims in Nigeria.
Where is your condemnation of fulani terrorists.

Terrorism is religiously motivated, 95% of terrorism in Nigeria is committed by muslims that is why you don't see any Muslim condemning it.

Stop your Taqiyya

Why must it be Muslims that can he sponsored to use their religion as basis for terrorism all over the world? Something is wrong with that religion.

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Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by smokinloud(m): 12:30pm On Mar 23
Krismas:
grin shut up u ignorant LIAR.
Oslo accord in simple terms was a fake agreement Israel had with the FOOLISH Fatah by which Israel will take almost 70% of Westbank.
Hamas has since sentenced Fatah to death for such staggering betrayal of the Palestinian people.
Westbank is not Israel's property. Its not theirs to take or give
Fattah don't intentionally kill PALESTINIANS. YOU ONLY SEE RARE CASES WHERE THEY KILL PALESTINIANS INTENTIONALLY OR SENTENCE THEM TO DEATH.
Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by Krismas(m): 12:32pm On Mar 23
smokinloud:

The GREEKS were the Philistines. Make research.
grin LIAR
The Arabic and Hebrew pronunciation of Palestinians is Philistinians.
Palestine is a Roman mispronunciation of Philistine
And there was never any race of Greeks called philistine
Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by smokinloud(m): 12:34pm On Mar 23
Krismas:
grin The issue is dat u are very ignorant. Jew have been moving out of Iran since the 1950s. So what are u talking about?
As at the time that Islamic revolution in Iran began, Jews population was still above 100k... Why is the population 10k today?.
Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by Krismas(m): 12:38pm On Mar 23
smokinloud:

Fattah don't intentionally kill PALESTINIANS. YOU ONLY SEE RARE CASES WHERE THEY KILL PALESTINIANS INTENTIONALLY OR SENTENCE THEM TO DEATH.
grin If you defend yourself against Israel in the WestBank, Fatah will look for you and hand you over to Israel or kill you in the process of arrest. It is written; Fatah will be dealt with after all the storm blows over
Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by smokinloud(m): 12:39pm On Mar 23
Gandrova:
CNN BBC and other media organisations mentioned it severally
Why making new proposal?
Stick to the original proposal
grin You want Israel to stick with a phase of cease-fire that doesn't guarantee their security?. Gaza must be rebuilt before hostages cam be returned fully and you think Israel will accept that?!.
Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by Timfreds(m): 12:40pm On Mar 23
The lives of Palestinians don't matter to Hamas, their concern is political achievement.
Israel should wipe them off for the peace of ordinary Palestinians
Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by Krismas(m): 12:44pm On Mar 23
smokinloud:

As at the time that Islamic revolution in Iran began, Jews population was still above 100k... Why is the population 10k today?.
grin Why did the population of jews in europe decrease? You cannot force people to stay. If they want to get out, its a free world.
Only, those Jews who stayed, are all d proof u need, that Jews didn't leave Iran cos they were endangered in anyway
Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by infofta(m): 12:48pm On Mar 23
Eze2000:




You have a good understanding of a problem but not entirely.


Going by the history of the Bible Israel has no land radar the migrated from Egypt to take a land already occupied by the Palestines

Says biblical times show many wars have been fought between Israel and Palestine for that land. Even Gaza was a city in the Bible before Israel

God eventually gave us your dad land by divine law bought the Palestine and the Arab do not recognize god and this is the problem

Because different Muslim empire have conquered and occupied those lands since ancient times the children of Israel's scattered around the world and rather Palestine made the land they are traditional home

It was only after the first world that the children of Israel began to return to their ancient home and demand that it become a modern state

Several new wars were fourth and Israel was formed by Force

When you hear the Palestine say... From the river to the sea.. they refer to Israel's migration from ebypt into a land that was not originally theirs


The Bible says the children of Israel cross the river Nile into the sani mountains where they spent 40 years before heading to the land of Palestine and conquered it and now that land borders the sea


That time from the river to the sea.. that is palestines telling you that Israel came from the river but will be pushed into the sra




Modify

Please for those of you quoting me that there was nothing like Palestine in ancient time be aware that there was nothing like Italy in Asian times either

The entity you are looking for rather is philistine and Rome respectively

Let me correct you.
Egypt also conquered Israel and took the people as slaves to Egypt.

Palestine never existed until the Romans conquered Israel and renamed the whole land as Palestine.

The only people who lived side by side with Israel were the people of Philippines.They were called the sea people who settled in Gaza from the sea.

Theses Hamas extremists are occupiers from Syria
Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by Eze2000(m): 12:50pm On Mar 23
smokinloud:

The GREEKS were the Philistines. Make research.


You mean the Greeks left your own country to go to the Middle East and create Kings and pegan gods to fight the Jews?

Well history is interpretable to everyone
Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by Krismas(m): 12:50pm On Mar 23
Timfreds:
The lives of Palestinians don't matter to Hamas, their concern is political achievement.
Israel should wipe them off for the peace of ordinary Palestinians
grin Its in ukraine you see how the lives of people dont matter to zelensky. there is a difference. no matter what hamas do, israel is determined to kill and expel Palestinians as they have been doing for over 70yrs. in that case, its best you let your death count for something. if you fight, you die, if you dont fight, you die. so best is, fight.
Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by smokinloud(m): 12:54pm On Mar 23
Eze2000:



You mean the Greeks left your own country to go to the Middle East and create Kings and pegan gods to fight the Jews?

Well history is interpretable to everyone
Guy stop mentioning me with ur stupid repetition. Make research on ur own then tackle my point with well researched facts not unintelligible questions.

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Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by Krismas(m): 12:56pm On Mar 23
smokinloud:

The yellow circles mean Israel. The red (men and women) means Nations the green (thrown stick) means foreign land. Besides this there are evidences of Israel kings more than dozens of them
grin the stele is read from right to left. its people of Israel. and its not nation. thats not how the rest nations in the stele were depicted. Israel has never been a nation. its just a collection of idol worshippers from all over levant. that's why they are called people of god, chosen people etc. they are shrine rats.
Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by infofta(m): 12:56pm On Mar 23
Gandrova:
You should be fair in your analysis. Hamas said the real proposal should be adhere to.
But satanyahoo refused.
Why is difficult for him to adhere to it?
We should have conscience.
Almighty Allah that created Muslims and Christians have never made a mistake.
We should be fair in our rational thinking

The issue here is who will govern Gaza after Israel's withdrawal. Hamas wants to return to October 6. You think Israel will allow that.
Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by Eze2000(m): 12:59pm On Mar 23
IyfeNamikaze:
No it is not! Please do yourself a favour and study the kingdom of philistia, see it's borders and see how it does not correlate with the current borders of Palestine and Israel.
Before the Philistines there were the Amaleks who were the original inhabitant of the Gaza Area and the Negev desert. These Amalekites were displaced by the Philistines who came from Greece, they're non Semitic people from mesopotamia, they're not your current Arab who bare the name Palestinians!
You have data so use it and Google the origin of that name, Palestine, you will see that it was a derogatory name given to Judea and Israel by the Romans after they squashed the Jewish rebellion, the Bar Kokhba revolt in 135 AD. The name was changed to Palestinia/ Palestine to remove the identity of the Jews who inhabited that land. Ask yourself a question, where was Palestine during the time of Christ? Why were there no mention of it all through the 4 AD to 130 AD? That's because there was never a thing as Palestine or Palestinia until 135AD.

During the time of the kingdom of philistia, there were also the Jebusites, the Moabites, the Hittites and the Amorites. All these were kingdoms existing at that time on that same area that we currently know as Isreal and the west bank. Each of these kingdoms had their respective borders alongside the kingdom of Israel, they weren't all called philistia because they aren't philistians who were Europeans! So if you're now saying that philistians are the original owners of the land then you're invariably saying that that whole place (Israel and Palestine) belongs to the Europeans! Do you now not see how preposterous that sounds?



Most of the people we call Arabs today in that region are not really Arabs this I know well

Even Iranians are not arabs


I am well away that the land of Israel as you know it today contain the lot of Kingdom in ancient time s

The people living in Gaza today and the West Bank are actually cognition of different kingdoms from Ancient times. Some of them are evening Lebanon and Syris

You and I could keep argue in about this till the New Year but the fact is nobody really understands the mixture of blood race and lands in that region and that is what is causing the problem
Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by Krismas(m): 1:00pm On Mar 23
smokinloud:

HASMONEAN DYNASTY history is recorded in the bible. 1 and 2nd Macabees. It's your ignorance that makes you think Jerusalem MEANS CITY OF PEACE in Hebrew but you're just too ignorant to understand...
grin 1 and 2 macabees are apocrypha books. they were not included in the bible. show me any bible that has the books of macabees. jerusalem is an acadian name. its not hebrew and certainly does not belong to jews.
Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by smokinloud(m): 1:05pm On Mar 23
Krismas:
grin Why did the population of jews in europe decrease? You cannot force people to stay. If they want to get out, its a free world.
Only, those Jews who stayed, are all d proof u need, that Jews didn't leave Iran cos they were endangered in anyway
A small minority staying doesn’t erase the experiences of the majority who fled. Some Jews in Nazi-occupied Europe also stayed—out of hope, denial, or inability to escape—but that doesn’t mean they weren’t endangered. In Iran, the remaining Jews live cautiously, often avoiding public religious practice and facing restrictions (e.g., they’re barred from certain jobs). Their presence might reflect resilience or lack of options, not a thriving, safe environment. Numbers tell the story: a drop from 100,000 to under 10,000 in a generation isn’t a vote of confidence in Iran’s treatment of Jews.
90% of Jews left after 1979 because the revolution brought persecution—executions, confiscated property, and threats. Habib Elghanian’s ( A Jews that was executed for being Jews in 1979) execution alone terrified the community into fleeing. The few who stayed don’t prove it was safe; they might’ve had no choice or means to leave. A ‘free world’ doesn’t explain why entire communities vanish when conditions turn hostile—persecution does.
Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by Eze2000(m): 1:08pm On Mar 23
smokinloud:

Guy stop mentioning me with ur stupid repetition. Make research on ur own then tackle my point with well researched facts not unintelligible questions.

What you should be asking about your own stupid knowledge is who wrote the research ...


The people you are calling European are not

The Philistines are very Asian sea going people that originated from the Aegean region in parts of Turkey and slight parts of Greece

I guess they are origin is why you stupidly call them European
Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by SIRTee15: 1:10pm On Mar 23
Krismas:
grin Herodotus wrote histories 500yrs before Jesus was born.
there has never been any country known as Isrrael. never

Have U heard of merneptah Steele?

An ancient Egyptian monument found in 1896 and dated around 1233 BC. That's 700 years b4 your Herodotus.

The monument mentioned Israel as a state in Canaan region.


And it's a big lie Herodotus never mentioned Israel.

Herodotus wrote about the Assyrian campaign and siege against Jerusalem when Hezekiah was king. I'm sure U know the story.
He attributed the sudden defeat and departure of the mighty Assyrian army to plague attack in the camp.
The bible attributed it to divine intervention.

Read my friend, read.

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Re: Fatah Urges Hamas To Cede Power In Gaza To Safeguard ‘palestinians’ Existence’ by Elusive001: 1:10pm On Mar 23
Krismas:
grin Complete lies.
Some places in the west bank look like Gaza right now, with the level of destruction. Abi, is Hamas in west bank?
Israel wants to destroy Palestinians and remove them completely from the land, thats the goal. Hamas is just the excuse they need to sell their genocide


Cure your penchant for lies and Taqiyya bro


Islamic Jihad says Palestinian security arrests five of its members in Jenin
By Nidal Al-Mughrabi


GAZA, July 17 (Reuters) - Islamic Jihad militants said Palestinian security forces detained five more of their members in Jenin overnight, underlining rifts between groups in the West Bank two weeks since Israel launched its largest raid there in years.......



https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/islamic-jihad-says-palestinian-security-arrests-five-its-members-jenin-2023-07-17/







"........In the past two years, there has been a dramatic increase in the scope of terror attacks in the West Bank and within the Green Line (see Figure 1). According to data of the Israel Security Agency (Shin Bet),[1] 6,828 terror attacks were carried out in 2024 (including stone-throwing and Molotov cocktails), double the number of attacks in 2023 at 3,436 attacks. Nonetheless, in the West Bank and Jerusalem, there was a 44% decrease in the number of significant attacks (including vehicular attacks, stabbings, shootings, and explosive devices; see Figure 2), with 231 significant attacks recorded in 2024 compared to 414 in 2023....."


https://www.inss.org.il/publication/terror-2023-2024/

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