MaxInDHouse:

Dude abeg pack go one side Jesus really walked this planet and established what is called CHRISTIANITY.

Continue to deceive your self. The story said he was a Jew. So he must have followed the Torah. Who then created Christianity? Answer: The Roman Catholic Church. It was the product of the council of Nicaea and the orders of emperor Constantine, who wanted a single religion for his empire.
Got nothing to do with God.

sonmvayina:


Continue to deceive your self. The story said he was a Jew. So he must have followed the Torah. Who then created Christianity? Answer: The Roman Catholic Church. It was the product of the council of Nicaea and the orders of emperor Constantine, who wanted a single religion for his empire.
Got nothing to do with God.

OK!

MaxInDHouse:

Naaaaah you can't get converted to JW if you're a ruler you must trash all political affluence to become one of us! Luke 18:22

OK but early Christians did not have such a rule

lawani:

OK but early Christians did not have such a rule

No ruler was a Christian back then the only ruler who wants to become a Christian was told to sell off his prestige and affluence:

“There is still one thing lacking about you: Sell all the things you have and distribute the proceeds to the poor, and you will have treasure in the heavens; and come be my follower.” Luke 18:22

That's what Jesus told the politician!

MaxInDHouse:

No ruler was a Christian back then the only ruler who wants to become a Christian was told to sell off his prestige and affluence:

“There is still one thing lacking about you: Sell all the things you have and distribute the proceeds to the poor, and you will have treasure in the heavens; and come be my follower.” Luke 18:22

That's what Jesus told the politician!

but you agreed that what Jesus founded was a sect of Judaism and all kinds of people including tax collectors working for government followed him

lawani:
but you agreed that what Jesus founded was a sect of Judaism and all kinds of people including tax collectors working for government followed him

An employee in public office differs from a politician, if you don't know the difference i will TEACH you.
Someone employed is not elected by the people it's qualification that got him the employment so there is nothing like tenor in such a job but a politician has tenor.
So an employee has no problem with Christianity but an appointee or elected person does!

MaxInDHouse:

An employee in public office differs from a politician, if you don't know the difference i will TEACH you.
Someone employed is not elected by the people it's qualification that got him the employment so there is nothing like tenor in such a job but a politician has tenor.
So an employee has no problem with Christianity but an appointee or elected person does!

Someone collecting taxes on behalf of Rome in Judea was even more than a politician because he was detested by Jewish nationalists. It was because Jesus claimed to be a Jewish nationalist (politician) that he was accused of hobnobbing with tax collectors by Jews

lawani:

Someone collecting taxes on behalf of Rome in Judea was even more than a politician because he was detested by Jewish nationalists. It was because Jesus claimed to be a Jewish nationalist (politician) that he was accused of hobnobbing with tax collectors by Jews

You just like twisting matter to suit your opinion.

An employee in public office differs from an elected politician.

So do you now see that first century disciples of Christ can't be politicians?

MaxInDHouse:


OK!

Learn, unlearn and relearn..

May you have peace.

sonmvayina:

Learn, unlearn and relearn..
May you have peace.

OK!

sonmvayina:


God's divine laws. He has already given humans everything they needed to live in peace and a fulfilling life. It also includes taking responsibility for your actions. If you are sincere enough to confess and forsake your sins, he would forgive and remember them no more.
Jesus is useless to God's plan. If you ask me, he is an idol. And God hates idolatry.

it is under this your torah that say that about my savior Jesus but in Christianity, Jesus is the perfect plan of God for mankind. Without Jesus this world would be long forgotten. We won't have this world.

In your torah you may not have Jesus Christ but in Christianity he is the pillar. He is our life. So please don't mix your Torah with Christianity

delkuf:
it is under this your torah that say that about my savior Jesus but in Christianity, Jesus is the perfect plan of God for mankind. Without Jesus this world would be long forgotten. We won't have this world.

In your torah you may not have Jesus Christ but in Christianity he is the pillar. He is our life. So please don't mix your Torah with Christianity

So got nothing to do with God.
He is just a creation of the church fathers. I understand that.
I don't need him. He is useless to me.
I follow my creator and his laws. That is ok for me.
Thanks.

MaxInDHouse:


What do you think someone is drinking before onlookers can call him a drunkard?
Can you say that about someone drinking Coke or Fanta?
Ọmọ Jesus drank alcoholic drinks that's why onlookers called him a drunkard!

Note that they said he is a friend of sinners and tax collectors.
Well because he doesn't judge anyone.

Note that they called him a glutton.
That's because they never saw him say he is fasting.

So try to humble yourself and learn God never condemns alcoholic beverages so His only begotten Son drinks it moderately.

I will always kick against drinking of alcohol as a Christian. I know how when you get drank you can easily this that you don't normally do.
I can never supported drinking as a Christian

sonmvayina:


So got nothing to do with God.
He is just a creation of the church fathers. I understand that.
I don't need him. He is useless to me.
I follow my creator and his laws. That is ok for me.
Thanks.

I need him. I can't do without him. My very existence depends on him. One pray I wish to pray every day is that every day of my life I should be looking at only Jesus. He is the center of everything

delkuf:
I need him. I can't do without him. My very existence depends on him. One pray I wish to pray every day is that every day of my life I should be looking at only Jesus. He is the center of everything

Lol.
I laugh in pidgin English.
Jesus creat anything??

Don't worry. The time is not far again. The deception will be revealed.
Then you will start running to the Jews to teach you their ways. It's not far again.

delkuf:
I need him. I can't do without him. My very existence depends on him. One pray I wish to pray every day is that every day of my life I should be looking at only Jesus. He is the center of everything

But I hope you accept that it is wrong to teach that God forgives past, present and future sins automatically?. Do you agree that Christianity should be practiced in private and that people should not be employed to spread it?. The moral fabric of the society is at risk due to the Jesus died for us rhetoric

delkuf:

I will always kick against drinking of alcohol as a Christian. I know how when you get drank you can easily this that you don't normally do.
I can never supported drinking as a Christian

You lack scriptural knowledge that is why.
Your dealings with the opposite sex is much more deadly than getting drunk many people in the past got drunk with lust for women and it led to their failure as God's servants.
Do you remember Samson, David, Solomon and Ahab?
They all committed grievous blunders due to their affairs with women.
Do you think all male Christian should stop dealing with women because of such things?
Ọmọ learn to be humble it will do you a lot of good.
I have given you the key to unlock the secret as to what Jesus' ministry should achieve among faithful mankind: there must be peace among all those claiming believers in the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 2:4} because they must LOVE there neighbors as themselves {Mark 12:31} LOVE and pray for their enemies {Luke 6:27-28} and LOVE their fellow believers just as Jesus is ready to die for his disciples! John 13:35-35
So if any religion failed to do this they are not disciples of the Prince of Peace.

MaxInDHouse:

You lack scriptural knowledge that is why.
Your dealings with the opposite sex is much more deadly than getting drunk many people in the past got drunk with lust for women and it led to their failure as God's servants.
Do you remember Samson, David, Solomon and Ahab?
They all committed grievous blunders due to their affairs with women.
Do you think all male Christian should stop dealing with women because of such things?
Ọmọ learn to be humble it will do you a lot of good.
I have given you the key to unlock the secret as to what Jesus' ministry should achieve among faithful mankind: there must be peace among all those claiming believers in the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 2:4} because they must LOVE there neighbors as themselves {Mark 12:31} LOVE and pray for their enemies {Luke 6:27-28} and LOVE their fellow believers just as Jesus is ready to die for his disciples! John 13:35-35
So if any religion failed to do this they are not disciples of the Prince of Peace.

that is rubbish key. You said dealing with opposite sex is more deadly, do you know that getting drunk can make me fall and have sex with a woman.
Well you have what you believe. But I can't go in that line. I have seen what alcohol can do to know. Please don't let us continue to argue on this. I can't subscribe to it. Good morning and have a good day

lawani:

But I hope you accept that it is wrong to teach that God forgives past, present and future sins automatically?. Do you agree that Christianity should be practiced in private and that people should not be employed to spread it?. The moral fabric of the society is at risk due to the Jesus died for us rhetoric

1, with the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus our sins both past, present and future sins are forgiven but for it to remain like that we must do away from sin. How do we do away from sin? How can we though we have been saved but live in a wicked world full of sin. This is where God gave us his life and power to enable live in this sinful world free from sin and dominate sin.
2, no I don't agree that Christianity should be practiced in private. The moral fabric of the society during the time of Jesus was to crucify him. That is what the moral fabric in our society ought to be. We need to tell others that it is the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus that save us. Others need to know. So Christianity shouldn't be practice in private

sonmvayina:


Lol.
I laugh in pidgin English.
Jesus creat anything??

Don't worry. The time is not far again. The deception will be revealed.
Then you will start running to the Jews to teach you their ways. It's not far again.

Well I don't what time is coming for you but I know a time is coming where that same Jesus you don't believe in will come and take us that to heaven where he is. That is the time I know is coming

delkuf:

that is rubbish key. You said dealing with opposite sex is more deadly, do you know that getting drunk can make me fall and have sex with a woman.
Well you have what you believe. But I can't go in that line. I have seen what alcohol can do to know. Please don't let us continue to argue on this. I can't subscribe to it. Good morning and have a good day

God blessed His worshipers to drink ALCOHOLIC in His house! Deuteronomy 14:26

So your opinion doesn't matter to me.

Good day!

MaxInDHouse:


God blessed His worshipers to drink ALCOHOLIC in His house! Deuteronomy 14:26

So your opinion doesn't matter to me.

Good day!

So your opinion can never matter to me.

Have a blessed day

delkuf:

So your opinion can never matter to me.
Have a blessed day

Olódo!
Not my opinion but what God granted His worshipers right inside His courtyard:

And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household! Deuteronomy 14:26 KJV

So it's you that's TEACHING your own PERSONAL OPINION against what God instituted in His word! Revelations 22:18-19

Most of you churchgoers don't know why your pastors becomes so intimidated at the mention of that group name:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

MaxInDHouse:


Olódo!
Not my opinion but what God granted His worshipers right inside His courtyard:

And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household! Deuteronomy 14:26 KJV

So it's you that's TEACHING your own PERSONAL OPINION against what God instituted in His word! Revelations 22:18-19

I am not teaching anybody anything but as for me your opinion concerning drinking alcohol cannot stand. It was not written that the Lord Jesus drank alcohol so me I cannot drink alcohol again in my life.

It is my opinion and believe so don't bring those your jw Bible quotation here

delkuf:

It is my opinion.

Walahi talahi i have no issues with you if you have said this from the onset.
So never say alcoholic drink is sin since it's your own PERSONAL OPINION.

delkuf:

1, with the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus our sins both past, present and future sins are forgiven but for it to remain like that we must do away from sin. How do we do away from sin? How can we though we have been saved but live in a wicked world full of sin. This is where God gave us his life and power to enable live in this sinful world free from sin and dominate sin.
2, no I don't agree that Christianity should be practiced in private. The moral fabric of the society during the time of Jesus was to crucify him. That is what the moral fabric in our society ought to be. We need to tell others that it is the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus that save us. Others need to know. So Christianity shouldn't be practice in private

You really believe it is cool to tell anyone their future sins have been died for?. I don't agree with you.

lawani:


You really believe it is cool to tell anyone their future sins have been died for?. I don't agree with you.

why don't you agree with that. What about people that pays the future school fees of there children. If someone can pay the school fees of there children for there future don't you think God has the power too to pay for our future sins

sonmvayina:


Continue to deceive your self. The story said he was a Jew. So he must have followed the Torah. Who then created Christianity? Answer: The Roman Catholic Church. It was the product of the council of Nicaea and the orders of emperor Constantine, who wanted a single religion for his empire.
Got nothing to do with God.

there was Christianity before Nicaea

delkuf:
why don't you agree with that. What about people that pays the future school fees of there children. If someone can pay the school fees of there children for there future don't you think God has the power too to pay for our future sins

But don't you think that is grossly immoral?. Telling people their future bank robberies, rapes and etc have been paid for?. It is not a good way to bring up kids. I hope you agree

Ubenedictus:
there was Christianity before Nicaea

They were the worshippers of Serapis.

lawani:

But don't you think that is grossly immoral?. Telling people their future bank robberies, rapes and etc have been paid for?. It is not a good way to bring up kids. I hope you agree

it may be grossly immoral with you but with God that it is very moral. Don't you think it is even safer to know that your future is paid for.