Agbalowomeri:


Nigerians outperform every race in the US. That should tell us something

True...Nigerians are smart and intelligent and it shows outside its borders.

But if intelligence, hardwork, genuine smartness, etc need to be exported before it can show it's impact and then appreciated, then sth is wrong with the entity housing such potential intelligence in the first place.

ololufemi:


Well, you don't need to agree to it.

How do you improve the IQs of persons when you don't get them acquainted with the requisite knowledge and proper orientation like it is being done in schools and communal associations at an earlier age.

Orientation is usually done to enable you accelerate your norms and attitude with the behavioural patterns and norms within a society you are within.

This occurs within our schools, workplace, clubs and associations, etc. These things affect the standard of living everywhere whichever way you look at it.

If you took the people currently residing in Nicon Town,Lekki and placed them in Alagbado, they will transform Alagbado to be similar to their former place of residence with significantly improved living conditions over time.

However, if you took the curent residents of Alagbado and placed them in Nicon Town, the place will become a glorified Oshodi or Alagbado with lower standards of living conditions over time.

This is clearly evident in places like Surulere, Aguda, FESTAC, Satellite Town, Apapa, Agbara Estate, etc. The influence of people with lower IQs decimated the conditions of living and infrastructure in those places to unimaginable levels.

So your argument is that hygiene attitude, lawlessness generally equates to low IQ?
Your argument also is that Africans who had no exposure to western education before colonization had basically low to zero IQ..
IQ is intelligence quotient.. not formal education related. And assuming but not conceding it is, which type of formal education? Western?

freeman67:


You forgot to add the Oga patata of them all...Grit
the only one wey I add to my dictionary sef.

Lol.. True

Agbalowomeri:


Nigerians outperform every race in the US. That should tell us something

Outperform every race ?

Kindly refer to my preceding post about the top decile and top 50th percentile (median IQ)

At the top decile
All races are almost the same
Negligible variance between them

A black man in a top dept in Cornell or MIT is just as hot as the Pakistani, Indian or Jewish person
And there is selection bias here too, because a lot of the Nigerians who live in the USA and are doing hot things are people who belong to that decile

The 50th percentile and the bottom quintile is where it lies
And that's where the wolf is sieved from the sheep

The bottom quintile of the Jewish population I'm sure will be almost at par, or slightly below our own 50th percentile

mikeapollo:


Let's stop the exaggeration and empty boastful talks

The US had been built by some other race before Nigerians flocking there going there for greener pastures.
Where do you put the Jews, Asians, Indians etc. that had been achieving back-to-back landmark success in US?

Are you going to argue against empirical fact? If you have a contrary data, I am interested

Streetinvestor2:
The massive economic development happening in China is not being championed by degree holders

You are not serious with this comment

I repeat
You are NOT serious
The Chinese govt has spent HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF YUAN ver the last 25 years to send its brightest students across the world to learn at their top unis

At the uni I work, they even have an exchange program for us to sharpen those who are back home in Tsinghua, and there literally hundreds of thousands of them all over the world at the unis, learning voraciously, and are then enticed to cone home and make China proud

Almost every top business owned in China was started by people who schooled in US esp and other parts of the world

Look at Eric Li for reference
there are many other names as well

your assertion is so so wrong and misleading

anyways. na onitsha boi boi u use start life
so most definitely that influence how u think

Good Morning my senior guyz in the house.

I need your knowledgeable opinion.

I have some units of MRS share. With the recent post on delisting. Is it advisable to sell?

Will the delisting have a negative impact on the share price?

Streetinvestor2:
I agree completely with you.The magin is going to be flat for reasonable time..Air travelling is becoming expensive and a lot of flight cancellation is happening on daily basis..The stock price has gained enough for early comers...na chaff remain. Without serious diversifying. The existing business has reached her peak for now. .If you are going in at this price na dividend you go just dey enjoy because of high pay out

We have growth stocks, we have quality stocks.

When a stock combines growth and quality features, the collaboration is going to be massive. That was what I told someone who wanted to sell Nahco at N10 after making over 100% profit.

With a Return on Invested Capital of 53%, gross margin of 61%, net margin of 24%, operating cash flow margin of 21% and Gross profit/Total asset of 70%, these are qualities of a quality stock.

Imagine what will happen if net margin improves from 24% to 35%

Don't under estimate how high a growth cum quality stock can fly

Most growth stocks are not quality stocks. And it is not all growth that creates value and wealth to shareholders. Oando shareholders can testify to this

ololufemi:

My brother, if you look at it critically and analytically, we need to tell ourselves the truth sonthat we can make the necessary changes.

If majority of our people decide to cross a highway or expressway right under or within a 100 meters diameter of a pedestrian bridge and put themselves and drivers in harm's way, they can not be classified as people that have an average IQ.

They definitely have an IQ level below the average and will always make silly decisions most of the time.

Unfortunately even those with high IQs among the people will witness a decline in their quotient when they continue to interact with people that have IQs below the accepted average globally.

Such interaction can either be physical or through electronical means.

From beating the traffic to dumping of refuse randomly. The list is endless.

If someone explains Nigeria to you and you understand it, then they haven't explained it well.

Mpeace:
Na money I dey find, nothing concern me and IQ.
Abi you don ever hear dangote, elumelu, otedola etc dey talk about IQ? Na only poor man dey think that side.
Rich man go employ that High IQ guy and pay him peanuts to make millions for the bigman

Unfortunately if your high IQ cannot solve societal problems, you will remain a salary earner

Since we are on this IQ thing
Whr should we place TPAIN I Q
For me I place his IQ as very high looking at whr he started and whr he is today.And was able to escape jail and achieved success. Though I am not his fan but I respect his high IQ.It does not mean he didn't know what is good or bad.He operated base on the country he found himself. Nigerians have high IQ which they present based on the country/environment they find themselves. We too get sense to show at different occasion....simply

What amazes me must is, the majority of the people donating money to peller, portable et.al. are Nigerian guys living in abroad, they are living in a supposed good society but low IQ. why..

Streetinvestor2:
Since we are on this IQ thing
Whr should we place TPAIN I Q
For me I place his IQ as very high looking at whr he started and whr he is today.And was able to escape jail and achieved success. Though I am not his fan but I respect his high IQ.It does not mean he didn't know what is good or bad.He operated base on the country he found himself. Nigerians have high IQ which they present based on the country/environment they find themselves. We too get sense to show at different occasion....simply

In a dysfunctional society leaders with a high IQ will want their followers to have low IQ, they will compensate thugs, criminals etc with plum positions and wealth in other to frustrate people with an above normal IQ. In order to be in the good books of the leaders they will have to start behaving like people with a low IQ and moral standards


The leaders use this to perpetuate themselves in power, or to influence who will take over from them,they also weaken institutions in the society.

crownprince2017:
What amazes me must is, the majority of the people donating money to peller, portable et.al. are Nigerian guys living in abroad, they are living in a supposed good society but low IQ. why..

So what then is the "native intelligence" so fondly spoken of ?

RodgersAkpafu:


You are not serious with this comment

I repeat
You are NOT serious
The Chinese govt has spent HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF YUAN ver the last 25 years to send its brightest students across the world to learn at their top unis

At the uni I work, they even have an exchange program for us to sharpen those who are back home in Tsinghua, and there literally hundreds of thousands of them all over the world at the unis, learning voraciously, and are then enticed to cone home and make China proud

Almost every top business owned in China was started by people who schooled in US esp and other parts of the world

Look at Eric Li for reference
there are many other names as well

your assertion is so so wrong and misleading

anyways. na onitsha boi boi u use start life
so most definitely that influence how u think

The truth remains that many of those onitsha boi boi are doing better than many of your type.They own businesses employing many of your type and more valuable to the country...lol.They have created more wealth to the country and produced more billionaire. They have brought more investment via partnership from outside into the country. Your type has only brought superiority in speaking English into the country. Have not been able in Contributing in solving any problem in the country. Your type achievement has always been to paint the country bad to your your present host to see if they could consider you as one of them and grant you additional favour

Agbalowomeri:




Unfortunately if your high IQ cannot solve societal problems, you will remain a salary earner

simple truth....loud it

SonofElElyonRet:

So your argument is that hygiene attitude, lawlessness generally equates to low IQ?
Your argument also is that Africans who had no exposure to western education before colonization had basically low to zero IQ..
IQ is intelligence quotient.. not formal education related. And assuming but not conceding it is, which type of formal education? Western?

Please my brother, don't show a lack of history about Africa (I don't mean it in an abusive way).

Do you know that the Greeks who taught the Romans how to organise their society got their knowledge from Africa in places like Alexandria in Egypt and others where you have the Pyramids and great cities along the Nile that were advanced in agricultural practices?

Timbuktu and Mali which were homes to Mansa Musa (acclaimed by even the westerners to be one of the richest man that ever lived on earth); you also have cities like Benin in Nigeria that had a defensive wall longer than the great wall of China and the inhabitants were already using street lamps to illuminate the streets of their cities before the Europeans.

Our African societies were way ahead of many of those Western Societies we know today. Our people just lost it at some point and things went downhill for African societies.

The dark skinned people popularly called the Moors in those days were from Africa and they occupied and ruled places in Britain, Spain, Portugal, etc. They were vast in knowledge and esoteric things and taught the westerners most of what they know today.

Unfortunately Africans have been blind sighted to believe that they are inferior and their terrible behavioural patterns has not made things better for their societies.andnits people as well.

There was even an African from the Northern part around Libya who became Emperor of the Roman Empire and was domiciled in Britain at some point to protect the british people from the barbarians ravaging through Europe at that time.

crownprince2017:
What amazes me must is, the majority of the people donating money to peller, portable et.al. are Nigerian guys living in abroad, they are living in a supposed good society but low IQ. why..

It is deliberately done my brother because they see Peller as than individual who can continue to fry the brain cells of the teenagers and young adults in society.

Think of it critically na. Do you think Peller and his idiocracy mob content will survive countries like Japan, Israel or China?

Think am na. It is being done deliberately to weaken our society. With Peller's rise to fame and fortune, people see no need to get a high school diploma anymore to earn serious money or contribute positively to society. 🤷🏽‍♂️

Streetinvestor2:
The truth remains that many of those onitsha boi boi are doing better than many of your type.They own businesses employing many of your type and more valuable to the country...lol.They have created more wealth to the country and produced more billionaire. They have brought more investment via partnership from outside into the country. Your type has only brought superiority in speaking English into the country. Have not been able in Contributing in solving any problem in the country. Your type achievement has always been to paint the country bad to your your present host to see if they could consider you as one of them and grant you additional favour

This is not entirely correct. Most of them are traders. Do you understand that they are also part of the problem? They took advantage of our poor and collapsing manufacturing capacity by importing goods from outside the country, mostly substandard products from China. They contributed to the dollar crisis we are facing now.

So yes, they made money, but at the expense of the entire country. They mastered the art of clearing and importing goods for resale—nothing spectacular if you ask me.

Only a few ventured into manufacturing and the sophisticated repair of machine parts.

Streetinvestor2:
The truth remains that many of those onitsha boi boi are doing better than many of your type.They own businesses employing many of your type and more valuable to the country...lol.They have created more wealth to the country and produced more billionaire. They have brought more investment via partnership from outside into the country. Your type has only brought superiority in speaking English into the country. Have not been able in Contributing in solving any problem in the country. Your type achievement has always been to paint the country bad to your your present host to see if they could consider you as one of them and grant you additional favour

They own business "employing" my type right?

Figment of your delusional imaginations

"They have created more wealth in the country"

Okay 👍
I have heard u

Mpeace:
Na money I dey find, nothing concern me and IQ.
Abi you don ever hear dangote, elumelu, otedola etc dey talk about IQ? Na only poor man dey think that side.
Rich man go employ that High IQ guy and pay him peanuts to make millions for the bigman

@bolded..very correct.
But unfortunately, it happens in Nigeria and the result is it doesn't bring out the best of that IQ guy in his domain of knowledge even though he makes millions.
(It could have been more)
He/she simply just does the basics at work just to survive and avoid breakdown and create other businesses by the side to augment pay.
A Divided attention.

In the end, rather than adding value from your area of strength, you just maintain status quo.


What I discovered amongst Most high IQ folks is they just seek the limit of what they can do while just being comfortable. They aren't looking for Billions or Millions.
(i may be wrong)
they just want to add value through their creative thoughts and practical skills whether as employees or employer.

But where the compensation is low, they build other businesses to survive.. Creating a divided attention


Other regions put prestige and value in their core staff at least.


I read about some brains, among them is just a university female student LUO about 27-28yrs then.
She and her smart group were given resources to use as they please and of course well-paid.
Result-->Deepseek AI

ositadima1:


This is not entirely correct. Most of them are traders. Do you understand that they are also part of the problem? They took advantage of our poor and collapsing manufacturing capacity by importing goods from outside the country, mostly substandard products from China. They contributed to the dollar crisis we are facing now.

So yes, they made money, but at the expense of the entire country. They mastered the art of clearing and importing goods for resale—nothing spectacular if you ask me.

Only a few ventured into manufacturing and the sophisticated repair of machine parts.

you are correct
in addition to that

Many of these traders are noise makers

I know this because I used to be an RM for one of the tier one banks in Nigeria when I started banking, and I used to process transactions on their behalf

BTW this was in a big market branch

Only very few of them were doing turnovers above 300m ANNUALLY

Most of them were between the ranges of 23m - 56m at best

But in Nigeria when you buy two tokunbo cars and wear senator plus red cap
You are now an odogwu and billionaire

ololufemi:


It is deliberately done my brother because they see Peller as than individual who can continue to fry the brain cells of the teenagers and young adults in society.

Think of it critically na. Do you think Peller and his idiocracy mob content will survive countries like Japan, Israel or China?

Think am na. It is being done deliberately to weaken our society. With Peller's rise to fame and fortune, people see no need to get a high school diploma anymore to earn serious money or contribute positively to society. 🤷🏽‍♂️

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjmNrlEtp5M?si=WE8VUt-PtWfnaRta

exactly what i have been telling my colleagues but they refuse to accept it

chimex38:

True...Nigerians are smart and intelligent and it shows outside its borders.

But if intelligence, hardwork, genuine smartness, etc need to be exported before it can show it's impact and then appreciated, then sth is wrong with the entity housing such potential intelligence in the first place.

crownprince2017:
What amazes me must is, the majority of the people donating money to peller, portable et.al. are Nigerian guys living in abroad, they are living in a supposed good society but low IQ. why..

Goes to show that a tout is a tout
no matter where he or she is based

Once you grew up and were socialised in typical Nigerian dysfunction, you are already ruined
no matter where you move to

That's why Nigerians were arguing in our NIUK group that a driver license has more value than a masters degree
Or that eating smelly poundo and soup in public transport that is mostly enclosed is justified

Or how they rush to enter bus here instead of queueing

A socialised riff raff is a socialised riff raff

Africa is like an ashawo—everyone comes do do until they c***, walka.

The Arabs arrived during the time of our great-great-grandfathers and took control of lands across Africa, particularly in the North.

Then the Oyibo came with the slave trade, taking Africans to work on plantations. Later, they returned under the guise of Christianity, followed by oil exploration, the IMF, and other financial schemes.

Then China took over by mass-producing low-quality goods, destroying our local industries in the process.

How do you think China became rich? By exporting substandard goods to Africa. Now, they have reinvented themselves, producing high-quality goods and competing with the Oyibo. Ok nah.

If I may ask, what exactly are you doing here in the midst of these low IQ people? They keep cautioning you to stop denigrating people based on location, but you keep doubling down on it.

The abroad that is turning your head, some of us willingly gave up living abroad because we just want to be home! Doctorate? Do you want people here to start showing you their certificates?
Please, be humble and stop derailing this thread!

USA2019:
"The mean national IQ of Nigeria is 67.80. See page 131 of Richard Lynn & David Becker (2019). The Intelligence of Nations. Ulster Institute for Social Research, London GB ISBN 9780993000157.

This mean IQ is very low and is even below the mean of 70 for sub-Saharan Africa.

Nations in North America and Western Europe have means from about 97 to 101. Japan, China, and N. Korea have means of about 105."

RodgersAkpafu:


You are not serious with this comment

I repeat
You are NOT serious
The Chinese govt has spent HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF YUAN ver the last 25 years to send its brightest students across the world to learn at their top unis

At the uni I work, they even have an exchange program for us to sharpen those who are back home in Tsinghua, and there literally hundreds of thousands of them all over the world at the unis, learning voraciously, and are then enticed to cone home and make China proud

Almost every top business owned in China was started by people who schooled in US esp and other parts of the world

Look at Eric Li for reference
there are many other names as well

your assertion is so so wrong and misleading

anyways. na onitsha boi boi u use start life
so most definitely that influence how u think

This is where you have problem with people in the group..
You can create counter argument without being derogatory..

The last paragraph is unnecessary, even though as Nigerians we're proud of it as a legitimate way to start life.

Rather than replying your discuss with counter constructive criticism na #wordsonmarble go follow suit

Hi

RodgersAkpafu:

you are correct
in addition to that

Many of these traders are noise makers

I know this because I used to be an RM for one of the tier one banks in Nigeria when I started banking, and I used to process transactions on their behalf

BTW this was in a big market branch

Only very few of them were doing turnovers above 300m ANNUALLY

Most of them were between the ranges of 23m - 56m at best

But in Nigeria when you buy two tokunbo cars and wear senator plus red cap
You are now an odogwu and billionaire

They usually have multiple bank accounts, N300 million turnover of 2020 should be equivalent to about N1 billion turnover of 2025

Damn crazy. I don take permanent seat like this

emmaodet:


Damn!!!!!

This is crazy

I think the issue about "anyhowness" in Nigeria (or the African society in general) is the lack of deterrence for wrong doing. The oyinbos (the suppossedly high IQ people) will be worse if you remove penalties for wrong doing from their societies.
My friend's bike was stolen in broad day light at a blind spot around his residence in Paris within a minute of leaving the bike.
The low IQ black man goes abroad and he is able function superbly among the whites.

ololufemi:


My brother, if you look at it critically and analytically, we need to tell ourselves the truth sonthat we can make the necessary changes.

If majority of our people decide to cross a highway or expressway right under or within a 100 meters diameter of a pedestrian bridge and put themselves and drivers in harm's way, they can not be classified as people that have an average IQ.

They definitely have an IQ level below the average and will always make silly decisions most of the time.

Unfortunately even those with high IQs among the people will witness a decline in their quotient when they continue to interact with people that have IQs below the accepted average globally.

Such interaction can either be physical or through electronical means.