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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 4:12am On Apr 07
Napoleon55:

Oga chill,nobody dey disrespect Yakubu,
Na u bring legacy come,Yakubu scored many goals in PL,yes,but ask yourself what does those goals creates and left behind compared to Okocha's performance in PL?

And u don't want Yakubu disrespected,here u are disrespecting Okocha,calling his efforts useless with no end product, how about the free kicks he scored? his assists?

What does okocha dribbles left behind too ? Abeg answer

You people are so funny
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 4:13am On Apr 07
opes:


His contribution was massive, he helped Bolton escape relegation. The following season, they played in Europe.



Helped Bolton escape relegation

What an achievement
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 6:29am On Apr 07
charlesemeka85:
dem go win serie A 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

You too Dey find trouble wey no Dey 😜
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 6:48am On Apr 07
Napoleon55:

It's not by numbers but the lasting effect of those little contributions and those useless dribbles,that's what forms his own legacy,which on the course won him two BBC African footballer of the year awards.
Even premier league player of the month.

Sunday Mba with just few games 2 goals at the AFCON,but the significant effect of those 2 goals will continue to resonate a lasting memory to this generation and the ones to come than the many goals of Yakubu Ayegbeni in super eagles.
That's his own legacy.

Of course it’s not by numbers ,especially for a midfielder like jay jay okocha

Premier league player of the month ? Nothing that special there please ,odemwingie have won that about 3/4 times during his west brom days ,maybe you should have mentioned his Bolton player of the season award.

You still can’t define okocha premier league legacy with all those hype he has been receiving all over the years
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kentebemoney: 6:49am On Apr 07
Sugarboyy:

And una coach dropped him for Papa Daniel Abi wetin be him name again?1
Make una stop this nonsense wey una dey do, if power dey una hand; Sunday mba for no go 2013 afcon. Papa Daniel is a good player.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kentebemoney: 6:52am On Apr 07
solonnachi:


I believe he has learnt his lessons. I knew NFF hands were written all over that list when I saw it
Bro take it from me, papa Daniel was one of the best performer in training, na foreign based biase make coach no play am.
How did I know this? I watched 3 training session.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by orriyomi33(m): 7:03am On Apr 07
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 7:09am On Apr 07
Ask people Okocha legacy at the premier league ,you will never get a genuine answers from them ,they will tell you how he used to dribble everybody and helped Bolton escaped relegation ,this is a guy with so much hype oo ,at a point self him get hype pass Kanu wey be african king .

Now ask them okocha legacy outside the premier league ,they will go far back to 1952 where he dribbled and made Oliver khan jumped like a frog grin

Wishing you all a wonderful week 👌
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:04am On Apr 07
andrewbaba44:
Ask people Okocha legacy at the premier league ,you will never get a genuine answers from them ,they will tell you how he used to dribble everybody and helped Bolton escaped relegation ,this is a guy with so much hype oo ,at a point self him get hype pass Kanu wey be african king .

Now ask them okocha legacy outside the premier league ,they will go far back to 1952 where he dribbled and made Oliver khan jumped like a frog grin

Wishing you all a wonderful week 👌
This is the reason why I always rate Nigeria player using super eagles performance.

If we want to go by club career rating,Richard Owubokiri would be rated above Rashidi Yekini.

I remember JayJay as CM competed for Afcon highest goal scorer with 4 goals....Okocha carried Nigeria team from 2000-2004,well missing out on APOTY really underscored who is Okocha,nothing more and funny the same APOTY Victor Ikpeba won.

Oga not hype,Okocha is more valuable than Kanu in eagles, nobody remember how he scored sublime free kick against Cameroon to level after we're are down with two goals but you see the same people telling us how great assist from Kanu to Utaka is the best to happen in Nigeria football history.

Funny na EPL legacy we are talking instead of Nigeria legacy.


Andrew baba he don tey o.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by opes: 9:05am On Apr 07
Kog45:
This is the reason why I always rate Nigeria player using super eagles performance.

If we want to go by club career rating,Richard Owubokiri would be rated above Rashidi Yekini.

I remember JayJay as CM competed for Afcon highest goal scorer with 4 goals....Okocha carried Nigeria team from 2000-2004,well missing out on APOTY really underscored who is Okocha,nothing more and funny the same APOTY Victor Ikpeba won.

Oga not hype,Okocha is more valuable than Kanu in eagles, nobody remember how[b] he scored sublime free kick against Cameroon to level after we're are down with two goals[/b] but you see the same people telling us how great assist from Kanu to Utaka is the best to happen in Nigeria football history.

Funny na EPL legacy we are talking instead of Nigeria legacy.


Andrew baba he don tey o.

When was this match please, that we were down by two goals against Cameroon and Okocha scored free kick to level?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:17am On Apr 07
opes:


When was this match please, that we were down by two goals against Cameroon and Okocha scored free kick to level?
Afcon 2000 final,Cameroon were ahead with two goals, Raphael Chuckwu reduced the deficit and JayJay do the needful,either free kick or long range shot I can't really recollect but JayJay was the saving grace.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by opes: 9:23am On Apr 07
Kog45:
Afcon 2000 final,Cameroon were ahead with two goals, Raphael Chuckwu reduced the deficit and JayJay do the needful,either free kick or long range shot I can't really recollect but JayJay was the saving grace.

It was a left-footed volley, released after he controlled the ball with his chest. Last and the best goal of the tournament. Coincidentally, Okocha also scored the first goal of the tournament against Morocco
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovych: 9:43am On Apr 07
andrewbaba44:
Ask people Okocha legacy at the premier league ,you will never get a genuine answers from them ,they will tell you how he used to dribble everybody and helped Bolton escaped relegation ,this is a guy with so much hype oo ,at a point self him get hype pass Kanu wey be african king .

Now ask them okocha legacy outside the premier league ,they will go far back to 1952 where he dribbled and made Oliver khan jumped like a frog grin

Wishing you all a wonderful week 👌
Okocha only played in the EPL for 4 years, it's a bit unfair to compare him with Iwobi in his 10th season already in the EPL. It's like comparing Nwakali's legacy in La Liga with Chrisantus Uche

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 10:18am On Apr 07
What Happened between 3SC and Ikorodu City is an embarrassment to the entire Nigerian football. It was revenge for the reverse fixture. What's annoying is there was nothing done to punish that shenanigans by IKC. Now 3SC revenged and it took a state govt official to solve the entire brouhaha. The police, independently couldn't. The League Authorities couldn't

Both clubs should be punished. If there was some punishment, 3SC wouldn't dare think of revenge. But all these things don't exist and it gives the NPFL a sad, irredeemable image when other top leagues are installing VAR usage and upgrade their league standards all round. Something that can't even dare happen in Latvian league is happening here and appropriate authorities are just there.

It's time some measures are put in place to curb and end all of this. Let every club know the drawn line and fear crossing it. Till then, this is NO league.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:21am On Apr 07
Karlovych:
Okocha only played in the EPL for 4 years, it's a bit unfair to compare him with Iwobi in his 10th season already in the EPL. It's like comparing Nwakali's legacy in La Liga with Chrisantus Uche

You are right

Reason I might be right with that conversation ,so I don’t get why some of them don’t wanna agree with me grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:21am On Apr 07
Kog45:
This is the reason why I always rate Nigeria player using super eagles performance.

If we want to go by club career rating,Richard Owubokiri would be rated above Rashidi Yekini.

I remember JayJay as CM competed for Afcon highest goal scorer with 4 goals....Okocha carried Nigeria team from 2000-2004,well missing out on APOTY really underscored who is Okocha,nothing more and funny the same APOTY Victor Ikpeba won.

Oga not hype,Okocha is more valuable than Kanu in eagles, nobody remember how he scored sublime free kick against Cameroon to level after we're are down with two goals but you see the same people telling us how great assist from Kanu to Utaka is the best to happen in Nigeria football history.

Funny na EPL legacy we are talking instead of Nigeria legacy.


Andrew baba he don tey o.

Chief grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Sugarboyy(m): 10:34am On Apr 07
andrewbaba44:


You are right

Reason I might be right with that conversation ,so I don’t get why some of them don’t wanna agree with me grin
I'm not sure you watched Okocha played, maybe you just watched his highlights later on or just the latter years of his career at Hull city.
During Okocha playing days, mostly from 1998 - 2004, he was the heart of everything SE and Botton Wanderers. I can vividly remember how we used to give up before commencements of matches both for botton and the SE if Okocha wasn't playing.
He was the heart and soul of the SE in 2000, 2002 and 2004 ACN and at Botton, they were so unknown and he solely brought Botton to limelight, that they are still experiencing till today.
During Okocha days at Botton, Bolton playing the big teams were seen as big matches , not even Kanu commanded such prestige for all the club's he played for in the EPL.
Lastly, Botton Wanderers still have fans and sympathisers in Nigeria till today because of Okocha. When it comes to the EPL, no Nigeria player till date has made better impact .
He think if was rated among the top 100 greats ever in the EPL.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 10:35am On Apr 07
andrewbaba44:
Ask people Okocha legacy at the premier league ,you will never get a genuine answers from them ,they will tell you how he used to dribble everybody and helped Bolton escaped relegation ,this is a guy with so much hype oo ,at a point self him get hype pass Kanu wey be african king .

Now ask them okocha legacy outside the premier league ,they will go far back to 1952 where he dribbled and made Oliver khan jumped like a frog grin

Wishing you all a wonderful week 👌

Are you aware Okocha is our second highest Afcon scorer with 7 goals after Yekini? For a Nigerian midfielder that’s massive.

Am not a big fan of Jayjay but that’s how influential he is in our football.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Sugarboyy(m): 10:47am On Apr 07
andrewbaba44:


You are right

Reason I might be right with that conversation ,so I don’t get why some of them don’t wanna agree with me grin
During Okocha and all the other names playing days, whenever they were playing for the SE, Okocha was always the main man and the heart of the team, not Kanu. Infact there was never a time when Kanu was rated ahead of Okocha in the SE.
Let's take our mind back to Atlanta 96, players like Okocha, Omokachi, Oliseh were rated ahead of Kanu in the team and it was those 2 goals that Kanu scored that brought him to limelight in the SE, not that he was the best.
Okocha legacy in football far outweigh other Nigerian players that have played in the EPL till date

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Sugarboyy(m): 10:48am On Apr 07
Goke7:


Are you aware Okocha is our second highest Afcon scorer with 7 goals after Yekini? For a Nigerian midfielder that’s massive.

Am not a big fan of Jayjay but that’s how influential he is in our football.
Maybe he stated watching Okocha play in 2005-2006 when he was already hanging his boots.
Recently Okocha was amongst the African Legends that were called upon for a charity match with the military president of Burkina Faso and these has always been happening all over the world.
How many them don called Kanu and others to come play if they had bigger football impacts than Okocha?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by opes: 10:56am On Apr 07
daveP:
What Happened between 3SC and Ikorodu City is an embarrassment to the entire Nigerian football. It was revenge for the reverse fixture. What's annoying is there was nothing done to punish that shenanigans by IKC. Now 3SC revenged and it took a state govt official to solve the entire brouhaha. The police, independently couldn't. The League Authorities couldn't

Both clubs should be punished. If there was some punishment, 3SC wouldn't dare think of revenge. But all these things don't exist and it gives the NPFL a sad, irredeemable image when other top leagues are installing VAR usage and upgrade their league standards all round. Something that can't even dare happen in Latvian league is happening here and appropriate authorities are just there.

It's time some measures are put in place to curb and end all of this. Let every club know the drawn line and fear crossing it. Till then, this is NO league.

Any SW derby involving 3SC always end in chaos. Whether it is between 3SC vs Sunshine, 3SC vs Remo, now it is 3SC vs the newcomer, Ikorodu United. There is no issues when other SW teams play each other, the troubles arise when 3SC is involved..
3SC may likely be sanctioned for what happened yesterday.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:13am On Apr 07
Sugarboyy:

During Okocha and all the other names playing days, whenever they were playing for the SE, Okocha was always the main man and the heart of the team, not Kanu. Infact there was never a time when Kanu was rated ahead of Okocha in the SE.
Let's take our mind back to Atlanta 96, players like Okocha, Omokachi, Oliseh were rated ahead of Kanu in the team and it was those 2 goals that Kanu scored that brought him to limelight in the SE, not that he was the best.
Okocha legacy in football far outweigh other Nigerian players that have played in the EPL till date

Na premier league legacy I carry come here

Why you Dey carry me go national team ?

Okocha legacy in football doesn’t even outweigh kanu ,please stop the cap abeg ,I won’t even talk abeg mikel Obi

We Dey talk premier league legacy you Dey carry me go Atlanta 96 ,Lmao
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:18am On Apr 07
Sugarboyy:

I'm not sure you watched Okocha played, maybe you just watched his highlights later on or just the latter years of his career at Hull city.
During Okocha playing days, mostly from 1998 - 2004, he was the heart of everything SE and Botton Wanderers. I can vividly remember how we used to give up before commencements of matches both for botton and the SE if Okocha wasn't playing.
He was the heart and soul of the SE in 2000, 2002 and 2004 ACN and at Botton, they were so unknown and he solely brought Botton to limelight, that they are still experiencing till today.
During Okocha days at Botton, Bolton playing the big teams were seen as big matches , not even Kanu commanded such prestige for all the club's he played for in the EPL.
Lastly, Botton Wanderers still have fans and sympathisers in Nigeria till today because of Okocha. When it comes to the EPL, no Nigeria player till date has made better impact .
He think if was rated among the top 100 greats ever in the EPL.

Man said he isn’t sure I watched okocha played

You Dey open your mouth tell OG like me this thing

I Dey talk about okocha premier league legacy and you guys are going off point because there is nothing to use in backing up

Bolton playing against big teams where only seen as big matches for Nigerians like you who loved okocha and not the footballing world

Kanu fa cup win for Pompey is bigger than anything jay jay ever done for Bolton

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Sugarboyy(m): 11:19am On Apr 07
andrewbaba44:


Na premier league legacy I carry come here

Why you Dey carry me go national team ?

Okocha legacy in football doesn’t even outweigh kanu ,please stop the cap abeg ,I won’t even talk abeg mikel Obi

We Dey talk premier league legacy you Dey carry me go Atlanta 96 ,Lmao
Seems you don't know the definition of the word Legacy.
There was never a time when Kanu or Mikel were the hearts and main men of their respective clubs in the EPL but Okocha was and till today he is still mentioned and regarded as the best African ever to play in the EPL. Winning tittles as part of a team is different from having a legacy. Mikel all through his years at Chelsea was a fringe player who won tittles using players like Drogba, Lampard and Terry. Same with Kanu for Arsenal who was rated at Arsenal below players like Henry, benkamp, Lurgberg, Pires, Viera, Campbell, A. Cole, etc. Kanu was not even the best in his position when he was at Arsenal, same with Mikel at Chelsea

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 11:19am On Apr 07
Sugarboyy:

Maybe he stated watching Okocha play in 2005-2006 when he was already hanging his boots.
Recently Okocha was amongst the African Legends that were called upon for a charity match with the military president of Burkina Faso and these has always been happening all over the world.
How many them don called Kanu and others to come play if they had bigger football impacts than Okocha?

I think okocha was even more appreciated after retiring than when in active play. The hype around Kanu was more about his coming back to the game after his heart surgery. Players like Amokachie and Amunike are way ahead of Kanu, injuries is what slowed their career down and even forcing them to retire early if not Kanu will be lagging behind them sef. Both were more of game changers.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:20am On Apr 07
Goke7:


Are you aware Okocha is our second highest Afcon scorer with 7 goals after Yekini? For a Nigerian midfielder that’s massive.

Am not a big fan of Jayjay but that’s how influential he is in our football.

I talk premier league legacy una don change gear to afcon grin

I didn’t even bash or talked down about his performance for the eagles

I was right afterall

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 11:22am On Apr 07
opes:


Any SW derby involving 3SC always end in chaos. Whether it is between 3SC vs Sunshine, 3SC vs Remo, now it is 3SC vs the newcomer, Ikorodu United. There is no issues when other SW teams play each other, the troubles arise when 3SC is involved..
3SC may likely be sanctioned for what happened yesterday.



Some high level of accountability must be taken from 3SC. They couldn't bury their chances and the fans began to act like the problem is IKC players sotey some calm fans that just want to enjoy an entertaining game had to start leaving early, knowing some clash was brewing in the stands. What's annoying is the lack of security personnel to quell such an outcome. Derbies all over the world of football have increased police presence with protocols and how to react and quell tension. Normal epl game have stewards and police(at least 30, and 50 for derbies)

If that hammer refuses to keep clubs in line, this is a Circus arrangement
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:26am On Apr 07
Sugarboyy:

Seems you don't know the definition of the word Legacy.
There was never a time when Kanu or Mikel were the hearts and main men of their respective clubs in the EPL but Okocha was and till today he is still mentioned and regarded as the best African ever to play in the EPL. Winning tittles as part of a team is different from having a legacy. Mikel all through his years at Chelsea was a fringe player who won tittles using players like Drogba, Lampard and Terry. Same with Kanu for Arsenal who was rated at Arsenal below players like Henry, benkamp, Lurgberg, Pires, Viera, Campbell, A. Cole, etc. Kanu was not even the best in his position when he was at Arsenal, same with Mikel at Chelsea

Firstly Premier league legacy was the point of this argument .

Kanu and mikel played for big clubs on their prime ,okocha was only the main man at Bolton and fenerbache that’s all ,put him on that arsenal team that has Henry Bergkamp and co he won’t even be the 5th main man ,let me not even go to the Chelsea team mikel played for

If they arrange the best African Epl XI he will never be found on the starting 11 ,so please spare me all these crap .

Mikel is now a fringe player because you want to defend okocha 😁
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:33am On Apr 07
Goke7:


I think okocha was even more appreciated after retiring than when in active play. The hype around Kanu was more about his coming back to the game after his heart surgery. Players like Amokachie and Amunike are way ahead of Kanu, injuries is what slowed their career down and even forcing them to retire early if not Kanu will be lagging behind them sef. Both were more of game changers.

Maybe amokachi can be ahead of kanu for the eagles

But when it comes to club football he is not close ,please let’s not start another one
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:35am On Apr 07
I don’t think you will see me dragging okocha when it comes to the super eagles

You guys are just changing the narrative ,but it’s fine .

Lastly we have so many frauds in those our 1994 afcon and 1996 Olympics set sha

One day one day I will open the books 👌

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Samueltemi337(m): 11:36am On Apr 07
Goke7:


I think okocha was even more appreciated after retiring than when in active play. The hype around Kanu was more about his coming back to the game after his heart surgery. Players like Amokachie and Amunike are way ahead of Kanu, injuries is what slowed their career down and even forcing them to retire early if not Kanu will be lagging behind them sef. Both were more of game changers.

😮
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 11:38am On Apr 07
andrewbaba44:


I talk premier league legacy una don change gear to afcon grin

I didn’t even bash or talked down about his performance for the eagles

I was right afterall

What’s my own with premier league, I no get that time jor. Super eagles is my criteria and that’s where I align with baba kogi 45 views. If you’re indeed that excellent as a player it will reflect in both club and international career unfortunately Kanu falls short in that. Even Mikel is way ahead.

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