tollyboy5:

I'm just stating fact. How do you want me to explain the effect on daily life? 😂
E Neva even reflect on my own life yet.

Ok, stop towing that part. Defending failure is always a hard nut to crack.

tollyboy5:

In what way explain. And stop talking like we're in a beer parlour

Name the infrastructure that Lagos has that Abuja doesn't have

You showed a picture of rail line I said Abuja also has a train service far more than that of Lagos it's called Abuja metro

mrvitalis:

Name the infrastructure that Lagos has that Abuja doesn't have

You showed a picture of rail line I said Abuja also has a train service far more than that of Lagos it's called Abuja metro

Another trash. You said Abuja has more infrastructure.
I showed you two metro line from Lagos now you came with Abuja is better? How?

You don't even understand what you're saying

tollyboy5:

There's always a slight fall during change of power. And besides we have to pay for all what the dullard administration caused.

In 2025, Nigeria's GDP is projected to be around $585.9 billion, representing a growth of 3.2% from 2024. World Economics estimates Nigeria's GDP in 2025 at $2.593 trillion in PPP terms. Additionally, the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) predicts a GDP growth of 4.17% for 2025, driven by ongoing reforms and stabilizing inflation.

And the dullard is from which party?

tollyboy5:

He's saying if southwest gave Goodluck almost 60% vote that means it's the same thing as South east giving Abiola 33%

Is that not madness?

You figures are factually incorrect sir. According to the data, SE gave Abiola about 48%, while the SW gave Jonathan about 58%. It's definitely not the 5% difference which he claims but he's adding the fact that Tofa had an Igbo man as running mate.

eastOFwest:


You figures are factually incorrect sir. According to the data, SE gave Abiola about 48%, while the SW gave Jonathan about 58%. It's definitely not the 5% difference which he claims but he's adding the fact that Tofa had an Igbo man as running mate.

I rounded it and said almost 60% .
He brought the 33% stat not me.
If it's 48% then it's all fair

Mrvitalis, from the image you posted, Ekiti, Ogun, Lagos, and Ondo voted for Jonathan in the 2011 election and not just Lagos and Ondo. Check again.

tollyboy5:

I rounded it and said almost 60% .
He brought the 33% stat not me.
If it's 48% then it's all fair

👍🏿

Davoneskay:
Mrvitalis, from the image you posted, Ekiti, Ogun, Lagos, and Ondo voted for Jonathan in the 2011 election and not just Lagos and Ondo. Check again.

My point is Jonathan bearly won those places not like he massively won them like yorubas claim

tollyboy5:

Another trash. You said Abuja has more infrastructure.
I showed you two metro line from Lagos now you came with Abuja is better? How?

You don't even understand what you're saying

I am telling you Abuja has a better metro than Lagos

Abuja metro is better than Lagos metro that's my point

Name what else Lagos have over Abuja

mrvitalis:

My point is Jonathan bearly won those places not like he massively won them like yorubas claim

See bro, I'm tired of these back and forth of politics and tribalism. Our leaders are all insincere. Ja fun ori e (Fight for your own course)...paddle your own canoe. Let's stop unnecessary argument about politics, religion, and tribalism. I've been well-favored by people of opposite culture and beliefs. Don't be surprised if even Obi or Atiku decamps to APC tomorrow. Our leaders are only after their own selfish interests.

mrvitalis:
To propagandas that have been pushed for a while is that Yorubas massively voted Jonathan in 2011...but it's this true?

Below is the results of the 2011 Presidential elections.. One can easily observe that outside Lagos ( none indigenous people) and Ondo ( miniko being pro Jonathan) ... Jonathan struggled to win South West States... He even lost 1 out of the rest four

Yet yorubas have pushed the narrative they massively voted Jonathan and he betrayed them

Compare this to the 1993 election results that Yorubas have claimed igbos never voted Abiola... You can see that the results and percentages are very close less than 5% difference that's given the fact that Tofa had an igbo vice a popular igbo vice at that


So from the above I would like to argue that
1) if igbos didn't vote Abiola in 1993 then Yorubas never voted Jonathan
2) if Yorubas voted Jonathan then igbos voted Abiola

3) that Yorubas have never voted any southern candidate outside their own people


What do you think

They are propagandists

Davoneskay:


See bro, I'm tired of these back and forth of politics and tribalism. Our leaders are all insincere. Ja fun ori e (Fight for your own course)...paddle your own canoe. Let's stop unnecessary argument about politics, religion, and tribalism. I've been well-favored by people of opposite culture and beliefs. Don't be surprised if even Obi or Atiku decamps to APC tomorrow. Our leaders are only after their own selfish interests.

Our leaders are the same, why haven't the corrupt leaders made a corrupt igbo man president?

Tell me

mrvitalis:

Our leaders are the same, why haven't the corrupt leaders made a corrupt igbo man president?

Tell me

Thank God you know that Nigerians vote do not guarantee who become the leader. The Powers That Be are not comfortable with having an Igbo man as the president. This is due to several reasons. This country isn't ready for Igbo presidency. The Igbo tribe as well feel marginalized and their reaction to this marginalization lack diplomacy (sorry if I'm being harsh, but that's the best way I can put it)

Davoneskay:


Thank God you know that Nigerians vote do not guarantee who become the leader. The Powers That Be are not comfortable with having an Igbo man as the president. This is due to several reasons. This country isn't ready for Igbo presidency. The Igbo tribe as well feel marginalized and their reaction to this marginalization lack diplomacy (sorry if I'm being harsh, but that's the best way I can put it)

So there is tribalism even at the top abi?

So you people that are allowed to get president should gather and fix the country and leave igbos out of it

And for the record the only people who are not ready for igbo president is the yorubas

eastOFwest:
This the OP's main point. SW did not massively vote for Jonathan. According to him, Jonathan struggled to win in the SW.

The data posted shows that:

Almost 40% did not vote Jonathan in Oyo

Almost 60% did not vote Jonathan in Osun

Almost 40% did not vote Jonathan in Ogun

Over 45% did not vote Jonathan in Ekiti

No need for pointless distracting ethnic slurs

Some governors won their state with just less than 5% edge and you are saying almost 60% was not massive.

At the end what matter is who have the majority, Jonathan won 5 states out of 6 states and you say it wasn't massive.

If he was contesting for the premier of western region he would have won with that type of outcome.

You guys are super delusional.

tollyboy5:

Abuja has more infrastructure than Lagos!

You must be a joker.
Lagos has the most infrastructure in Nigeria, and arguable the most interconnected road.
What you mean by bad road?

The only problem Lagos have are people trooping in.

Lagos has bad roads and terrible road connections. Aside Epe, there’s no local government area I haven’t been to in Lagos state. One thing is common, bad inner roads and terrible road connections.

Yorubas voted for Jonathan 2011.
Their votes added up to the eastern and south south votes to made him win.
The north didn't vote for him.

That was exactly why he lost 2025 because the west did not vote for him. He would have won if they did

mrvitalis:


So there is tribalism even at the top abi?

So you people that are allowed to get president should gather and fix the country and leave igbos out of it

And for the record the only people who are not ready for igbo president is the yorubas

You just proved the last statement in my previous post right...you guys reaction to your marginalization isn't diplomatic enough. You don't burn bridges in politics or even in business but build. You don't call all Yorubas, Afonjas and Hausas/Fulanis unprintable names. Prior to Buhari's emergence in 2015, we all saw his alliance with the SW. Also, Tinubu used years to build several bridges before he became a president.

The Obedient movement have erroneously made Peter Obi to look like a toxic candidate himself.

Permit me to add this, a lot of Nigerians perceive the Igbos as domineering and harsh. Mind you, I've worked in educational institutions remotely and on-site, hence, I've got interactions from people of different background concerning Igbos. Sardauna of Sokoto also said the same thing in an interview as well.

The Powers That Be, like I said aren't comfortable with Igbo presidency. I would have said more deeper things, but your people will come for my head.

mrvitalis:

Name the infrastructure that Lagos has that Abuja doesn't have

You showed a picture of rail line I said Abuja also has a train service far more than that of Lagos it's called Abuja metro

1. Abuja doesn't have water transportation system
2. Lagos state has neighbourhood watch, a local security outfit for the state Abuja has none of such
3. Lagos has Intra state rail line and interstate rail system, Abuja only have interstate.

mrvitalis:

Name the infrastructure that Lagos has that Abuja doesn't have

You showed a picture of rail line I said Abuja also has a train service far more than that of Lagos it's called Abuja metro

Where is it located?

Davoneskay:


You just proved the last statement in my previous post right...you guys reaction to your marginalization isn't diplomatic enough. You don't burn bridges in politics or even in business but build. You don't call all Yorubas, Afonjas and Hausas/Fulanis unprintable names. Prior to Buhari's emergence in 2015, we all saw his alliance with the SW. Also, Tinubu used years to build several bridges before he became a president.

The Obedient movement have erroneously made Peter Obi to look like a toxic candidate himself.

Permit me to add this, a lot of Nigerians perceive the Igbos as domineering and harsh. Mind you, I've worked in educational institutions remotely and on-site, hence, I've got interactions from people of different background concerning Igbos. Sardauna of Sokoto also said the same thing in an interview as well.

The Powers That Be, like I said aren't comfortable with Igbo presidency. I would have said more deeper things, but your people will come for my head.

What exactly should Igbos do for your yorubas that we haven't done tell me oga.. In specific terms

Ttalk:


Where is it located?

So this one hasn't been to Abuja and is talking? Lmaooo

mrvitalis:
To propagandas that have been pushed for a while is that Yorubas massively voted Jonathan in 2011...but it's this true?

Below is the results of the 2011 Presidential elections.. One can easily observe that outside Lagos ( none indigenous people) and Ondo ( miniko being pro Jonathan) ... Jonathan struggled to win South West States... He even lost 1 out of the rest four

Yet yorubas have pushed the narrative they massively voted Jonathan and he betrayed them

Compare this to the 1993 election results that Yorubas have claimed igbos never voted Abiola... You can see that the results and percentages are very close less than 5% difference that's given the fact that Tofa had an igbo vice a popular igbo vice at that


So from the above I would like to argue that
1) if igbos didn't vote Abiola in 1993 then Yorubas never voted Jonathan
2) if Yorubas voted Jonathan then igbos voted Abiola

3) that Yorubas have never voted any southern candidate outside their own people


What do you think

If you don’t go and concentrate on your life, you will continue to beg for food as you are currently doing

mrvitalis:

So this one hasn't been to Abuja and is talking? Lmaooo

I ve been leaving in Abuja before you graduated in 2015.

Which Abuja Metropolis does the Abuja Methro covered?

mrvitalis:

What exactly should Igbos do for your yorubas that we haven't done tell me oga.. In specific terms

The ethnic division between Yorubas and Igbos have lingered for so long. It worsened when Jonathan lost to Buhari. The social media which should have been used to unify both warring tribes have been used to disintegrate them.

If ethnic distrust can be limited between both groups by all possible means, then, I see Yorubas supporting an Igbo presidency.

To be candid, I've met some pro-Yorubas who see Charles Soludo as someone who can ganered massive votes from the SW. I still wonder why he has never declared any interest for presidency. Honestly, I perceive Soludo and Iweala differently from our average leaders.

Davoneskay:

The ethnic division between Yorubas and Igbos have lingered for so long. It worsened when Jonathan lost to Buhari. The social media which should have been used to unify both warring tribes have been used to disintegrate them.

If ethnic distrust can be limited between both groups by all possible means, then, I see Yorubas supporting an Igbo presidency.

To be candid, I've met some pro-Yorubas who see Charles Soludo as someone who can ganered massive votes from the SW. I still wonder why he has never declared any interest for presidency. Honestly, I perceive Soludo and Iweala differently from our average leaders.

Trust me if soludo has a realistic chance of winning you would be reminded of all his crimes

Yorubas for what ever reason don't want am igbo president
People who instigate North against igbos sre yorubas
People who instigate South South against igbos are yorubas

I can understand that yorubas don't like Igbos majority... But hating Igbos and being against igbo separation is what I can't get

Ttalk:


I ve been leaving in Abuja before you graduated in 2015.

Which Abuja Metropolis does the Abuja Methro covered?

And you don't know Abuja metro

mrvitalis:

Trust me if soludo has a realistic chance of winning you would be reminded of all his crimes

Yorubas for what ever reason don't want am igbo president
People who instigate North against igbos sre yorubas
People who instigate South South against igbos are yorubas

I can understand that yorubas don't like Igbos majority... But hating Igbos and being against igbo separation is what I can't get

You can't do without tribalism. How come Obi won Lagos in the last election?

mrvitalis:

And you don't know Abuja metro

Stop fidgeting, where does Abuja Methro located and ply. Go and check the meaning of 'methro'

A Methro rail is a rail system within a a state. Which area in Abuja does your Methro rail covers?

mrvitalis:

Trust me if soludo has a realistic chance of winning you would be reminded of all his crimes

Yorubas for what ever reason don't want am igbo president
People who instigate North against igbos sre yorubas
People who instigate South South against igbos are yorubas

I can understand that yorubas don't like Igbos majority... But hating Igbos and being against igbo separation is what I can't get

It isn't just Yorubas hating Igbos, but Igbos also hate Yorubas. We've called each other negative names such as Ofem.manu, Omo Nna and so on. I personally want you Igbos to have your own separate country, but if wishes are horses, beggars will ride.
Hausas/Fulanis and Yorubas presidency have never favored me or my families. Na dem dem e dey favour. I honestly hope that sooner than expected, an Igbo will rule this country or better still, we all go our separate ways.

So what exactly is your point ?

mrvitalis:

Lmaooo this is the best you could come up with?

Bro this is a different election different circumstances even a dull person should know that na... Come. On you can do better