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| Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by Thankgod89: 8:04am On Apr 15 |
This truth lies at the very center of the Christian gospel. It’s what makes (Hebrews 2:14-15 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.) not only theologically rich but profoundly comforting: Jesus transformed the meaning of death forever. 1. Before Christ: Death Was a Door to Judgment Before the coming of Christ, death cast a long shadow over humanity—not simply because it marked the end of life, but because it led to something far more fearful: God’s judgment. Hebrews 9:27 — “It is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment.” Death brought people face to face with a holy God they had offended through sin. The conscience, as Paul writes, bears witness to this guilt (Romans 2:15), reminding each soul that something is not right—and that judgment awaits. The result? Humanity lived in bondage to the fear of death. Beneath every attempt at distraction, denial, or control was a deep-seated awareness: “I am not ready to stand before God.” 2. What Christ Did: He Reversed the Door Jesus did not avoid death—He entered into it willingly and victoriously. John 10:17–18 — “I lay down my life… I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again.” Revelation 1:18 — “I died, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades.” Jesus entered the grave like a warrior invading enemy territory—and emerged triumphant, holding the keys. For those who belong to Him, the meaning of death has been forever changed. It is no longer the threshold of judgment—it is the entrance into eternal fellowship with God. It is not a prison door slamming shut—it is a gate flung open to true life. After Christ: Death Becomes a Door to Life This transformation is why Paul could say: Philippians 1:21 — “To live is Christ, and to die is gain.” Corinthians 5:8 — “To be away from the body is to be at home with the Lord.” In Christ, the fear is gone. The slavery is broken. Why? Because on the cross, Jesus bore our judgment. He exhausted the wrath of God against sin. And in His resurrection, He redefined death—not as an ending, but as a beginning. So now, for the believer: Death is no longer a punishment—it is a promotion. It is not banishment from God—it is entrance into His presence. It is not the final word—it is the start of the full, eternal story. 3 Likes 1 Share
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| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by dangermouse(m): 8:38am On Apr 15 |
God alone be praised. |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by StillDtruth: 11:55am On Apr 15 |
Thankgod89: You are only half right for even before God came to the earth through the Name Jesus Christ, death was a door to Judgement of eternal damnation or eternal goodness. And nearly all of humanity were headed to Judgement of eternal damnation especially with Isreal failing to show and lead The Way! So God came and re laid The Way again. And now, as we see in Revelations, many found The Way and followed it. So, No! He did not reverse the door. |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by sonmvayina(m): 12:39pm On Apr 15 |
Man incurred death when he ate from the tree of the knowledge of Good and evil. He was told not to eat from it. What is death? It is just a return to default setting. From Dust you where made..to dust you shall return. Nothing more. The body becomes one with the earth while the spirit or God's breath becomes one with God. No judgement after death....Man has already been judged. (As stated above) We are each the same God's spirit experiencing human life in multiple ways. Just enjoy the experience....nothing more. Any body saying any other thing wants to steal your money or fvck your girlfriend/wife. |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by Thankgod89: 1:30pm On Apr 15 |
StillDtruth: When I said Christ "reversed the door," I didn’t mean He changed the final destination of death from judgment to something else in general. I meant He reversed its meaning and effect for those who are in Him. Here’s what I mean: Before Christ, even the faithful waited in hope (as in Luke 16, Abraham’s bosom). The path to God was dimly lit through types and shadows—priests, sacrifices, the Law, the temple—all pointing forward. Access to God’s presence was limited, veiled. When Christ came, He fulfilled the Law, tore the veil, and brought immortality to light (2 Timothy 1:10). Now: The way is no longer shadowed—it’s clearly revealed. The fear of death is broken (Hebrews 2:15). The promise of resurrection and eternal life is secured. So yes, death still leads to judgment—but for the believer, that judgment has already fallen on Christ. |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by Thankgod89: 1:43pm On Apr 15 |
sonmvayina: Yes, man did incur death by eating from the tree—but Scripture doesn’t stop there. If death were just a return to dust with no further consequence, then why would Christ speak so clearly about resurrection, judgment, and eternal life? Why would He rise from the dead at all? Genesis speaks of physical death—“dust to dust”—but throughout the rest of the Bible, there's a clear message that life continues beyond the grave, and that our choices here matter eternally. Hebrews 9:27 says, “It is appointed unto man once to die, and after this, judgment.” God’s breath in us isn’t just a spark for temporary experience—it’s a deposit of something eternal. Jesus didn’t die and rise just to make our earthly experience nicer; He did it to restore what was lost—relationship, purpose, and eternal life. There is more, and the resurrection is proof that death is not the end. |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by StillDtruth: 5:54pm On Apr 15 |
Thankgod89: Not correct! In the old, God's Presence was very very strongly felt. If you watch movies of the past you would experience this. So the people of old had His Spirit to teach, lead and guide them. (This was what left when Christ Said "it is Finished and that is why the world started ending and Antichrists started as Christ had Said) So anyone who truly wanted to be righteous could do it. Which is why people say today to older ones on temptations and sins "ah your days were better na" So the main matter of God's visitation was to re pave His Way which had been destroyed by Isreal not keeping His Way and further made worse by the world who ensured that it was covered. So, God came again, a second time to re pave The Way with a more solider cast that the world cannot easily erase. |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by Thankgod89: 7:11pm On Apr 15 |
StillDtruth: What exactly is incorrect about what I said? How does my statement align with your response? Didn’t the path to God used to be dimly lit through types and shadows—such as the priests, the sacrifices, the Law, and the temple? And didn’t the faithful before Christ live in hope and expectation of something greater? Hebrews 11:39 says: “And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise.” This shows they were waiting—they had faith, but the full reality hadn’t yet come. But your response seemed disconnected and I honestly don’t see how it directly ties back to the core of our discussion. |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by sonmvayina(m): 10:07pm On Apr 16 |
Thankgod89: That is the only truth in your whole write up. Every other things after that is hogwash... I said the body returns to earth AND the spirit returns to God who gave it....is God going to judge his spirit? See Ecclesiastes 12:7 Stop filling your head with lies. Jesus is just a pagan concept and has nothing to do with God our creator. |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by Bubblylady(f): 7:39am On Apr 17 |
Beautiful Write-up |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by Thankgod89: 10:51am On Apr 17 |
sonmvayina: Bro, take a breath—you’re speaking boldly, but you’re missing some key understanding. Ecclesiastes 12:7 does say, “Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.” That “spirit returning to God” refers to the life-giving breath God breathed into man (see Genesis 2:7). When someone dies, that breath—our very life—goes back to the One who gave it. But that doesn’t mean every spirit automatically enters heaven or stands in God’s favor. It simply means the life is no longer with the body. Judgment still follows, as made clear in Hebrews 9:27: “It is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.” See this, Ecclesiastes 12:14 - For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil. Ecclesiastes is reflecting on the reality of death—not giving a full theology on the afterlife. It’s a poetic reminder of life’s fragility, not a statement about who is saved or judged. And as for Jesus—He’s not a pagan concept. He is the centerpiece of God’s redemptive plan, threaded all through Scripture, from Genesis to Revelation. |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by sonmvayina(m): 12:30pm On Apr 17 |
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| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by sonmvayina(m): 12:44pm On Apr 17 |
Thankgod89:So what is remaining? Spirit goes to God and body goes to the earth. See Psalm 104:29-31 send forth your spirit and they are created and fill the earth, take it and they die and return to dust. Which other substance is remaining.? 2 But that doesn’t mean every spirit automatically enters heaven or stands in God’s favor. It simply means the life is no longer with the body. Judgment still follows, as made clear in Hebrews 9:27: “It is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.”Who ever wrote that book of Hebrews is obviously lying his ass off. Why would God judge his spirit. It is pure. It is also God. Like I always say "we are God's spirit dwelling within a physical body made from Dust. We are the forms through which God experiences his creation. 3 Ecclesiastes is reflecting on the reality of death—not giving a full theology on the afterlife. It’s a poetic reminder of life’s fragility, not a statement about who is saved or judged.when man dies he ceases to exist, the spirit of God goes to him. If the spirit has not fulfilled his reason of incarnation, God can send it back to earth to finish up. The purpose is experience. Why would God punish his spirit  Does not make sense to me.4 And as for Jesus—He’s not a pagan concept. He is the centerpiece of God’s redemptive plan, threaded all through Scripture, from Genesis to Revelation. I don't see how Jesus is important to us or God? If you see point it out. He only exist as a mockery against God. To insult our creator. I refuse to partake in what will insult my creator. He was created by the Roman empire just as Daniel prophesied. God has already told us to confess and forsake...he would forgive and heal our land. That is sufficient for me. He does not need a human sacrifice. See 2nd chronicles 7:14. He already provided a solution. Except you want to advice him that it is not enough. Then....go ahead. |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by Thankgod89: 1:34pm On Apr 17 |
sonmvayina: From Psalm 104:29-31where you quoted speaks of God’s Spirit (or breath) giving life and withdrawing it at death. It shows that life itself is fully dependent on God. But to answer your question, what remains?—the answer lies in understanding that humans aren’t just a mix of body and breath; we are living souls (Genesis 2:7). When God formed man from the dust and breathed into him, man became a living soul—not that he had a soul, but he became one. At death, the elements separate: The body returns to dust, The breath/spirit (the life-force) returns to God, But the soul—the person, the consciousness—ceases to function. Until the resurrection, there's no awareness or activity (Ecclesiastes 9:5, “the dead know nothing”). So what’s “remaining” isn’t a separate part floating around—it's the record of who we are kept by God, and we await resurrection for judgment or eternal life Daniel 12:2 - And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.. The soul doesn't live on independently—it sleeps in death, waiting for God to awaken it at the appointed time. |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by Thankgod89: 1:42pm On Apr 17 |
sonmvayina: I hear your point, but let’s weigh it against what Scripture actually says. The Bible teaches resurrection, not reincarnation. John 5:28–29 – “Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, and shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.” Daniel 12:2 – “And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.” These verses are clear: after death, people sleep in the grave—not roam or reincarnate—and will be raised by God at the appointed time, either to life or to judgment. |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by Thankgod89: 1:50pm On Apr 17 |
sonmvayina: I respect your desire to honor God, and I agree. He calls us to repent, confess, and turn from wickedness (2 Chronicles 7:14), and He is merciful to forgive. But let’s look deeper into how God chose to bring that ultimate healing. Jesus isn't a mockery of God. He is the fulfillment of God’s redemptive plan from the beginning. He wasn’t created by Rome; He was foretold long before Rome existed: Isaiah 53:5–6 – “He was wounded for our transgressions... and the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.” Psalm 22, written by David centuries before Jesus, describes crucifixion in detail—long before it was even invented. Daniel 9:26 says “the Anointed One shall be cut off, but not for Himself.” That’s not a Roman creation—that’s prophecy. You’re right, God doesn’t need human sacrifice in the pagan sense. But Jesus wasn’t just a man. According to Scripture, He is the Word of God made flesh (John 1:14), sent out of love to take our place. Rejecting Jesus doesn’t honor God—it rejects the very gift God gave to save us. It’s not about advising God—it’s about humbling ourselves to receive what He already planned. God’s forgiveness is free, but it’s not cheap—it cost something. And Jesus was that willing sacrifice. Why would I try to advise God  ? His Word is perfect and true. Just take a moment to really think about that. |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by StillDtruth: 4:25am On Apr 18 |
Thankgod89: I say brightly lit. But no wahala |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by sonmvayina(m): 6:27pm On Apr 18 |
Thankgod89:What is but again? Confess and forsake, I will forgive. Simple this is what a loving God will do. Not ask for a human sacrifice. That idea is pagan. The bolded is all that is required, nothing more. Why are you bringing a pagan ideology to it. Is Gods solution not good enough that you want a human to be killed first. Is it not God that created every soul? What will he gain by asking you to murder one for him, does it even make any sense to you. Isaiah 53 is not about Jesus, it is about a suffering servant. And Isaiah already told you who the servant is. Please check chapter 45:1-7. Nobody needs to die before God can forgive. It is a pagan idea. When God send Jonah to Nineveh, they repented and God forgave them. No human sacrifice was involved. Why are you people insisting that Jesus is of God. He is not. He was created as a mockery/insult against God. I only worship my creator and follow his commandments. That is ok for me. I am not going to complicate it by mixing it with paganism. Thanks....but no thanks. |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by sonmvayina(m): 6:35pm On Apr 18 |
Thankgod89: The new testament is a Christian/pagan ideology and scriptures. It has got nothing to do with God. The Jewish scriptures ended in Malachi. There is no such thing as a new testament. God does not make mistakes. He got it right the first time. Man is God's spirit dwelling within a physical body made from Dust. This earth is where God's judgement takes place. When a man expires, his spirit returns to God and his body is buried for it to turn to dust. Will God judge his spirit? Does not make any sense to me. If the spirit has failed to complete his task, he is sent again. "Before you where formed in your mother's womb, I knew you"....(Reference to Jeremiah)., Naked I came from my mother's womb, naked I shall return there Job chapter 1. Etc. There will be resurrection when God sends his true Messiah in the messianic era. There will be peace on earth and no more wars and oppression. That is true salvation. |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by sonmvayina(m): 6:45pm On Apr 18 |
Thankgod89: We are living souls. We do not have a soul. We are a soul. When God sends his breath, man becomes a living soul. When the soul expires, it dissociates into the spirit going back to God and body being buried. Why are you confusing yourself. ? Man is a soul. You might even be in your 10th or 12th incarnation. We (men) are the forms through which God experiences itself or his creation. God created man so he can experience his creation. We are all Gods having a human experience...or walking a human path. If Jesus actually existed, he is no different from you or me. Worshipping a man as God is tantamount to idolatry and it kind of diminishes us.. |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by Thankgod89: 9:45pm On Apr 18 |
sonmvayina: From your message, I understand that you don’t believe in our Lord Jesus. I won’t try to argue by pointing to various prophecies or shadows of Christ in the Old Testament that we hold to be true. Still, the word of God stands firm. Christ was not sent as an insult or mockery of God, but as the fulfillment of His promise. You are free to worship your Creator and follow His commandments as you understand them. Though we see things differently, I believe these kinds of discussions are meaningful. They push us to seek, study, and draw nearer to the truth. And for me, Christ is the truth. |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by Thankgod89: 9:52pm On Apr 18 |
sonmvayina: To us who believe in Him, He is not just a man to be compared with anyone else, but the manifestation of God’s love, mercy, and truth. Worshipping Him is not idolatry—it is acknowledging God revealed in His fullness. I say this with respect: just as you feel your view honors God, I believe mine does too. We may see things differently, but I'm always open to honest dialogue rooted in truth and Christ is the truth. |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by Thankgod89: 10:09pm On Apr 18 |
sonmvayina: The Jewish Scriptures clearly point forward to something greater—a promised Messiah and a new covenant. As it is written in Jeremiah 31:31, “Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah.” This covenant reveals a deeper unfolding of God’s plan for salvation—not only for Israel, but for all nations. Jesus did not come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets, but to fulfill them. As He said in Matthew 5:17, “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.” The New Testament does not contradict the Old—it completes the story God began. I repeat: while we may see things differently, I am fully convinced that Jesus is not a pagan concept or a man-made idea. He is the Word of God made flesh, the fulfillment of the Law and the Prophets, and the Savior of the world. The Spirit of God within me bears witness—I know whom I serve. Truth matters. And I pray that we both continue to seek it with sincere and humble hearts. Jesus is the truth. John 14:6 |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by sonmvayina(m): 8:08am On Apr 20 |
Thankgod89: What was the old covenant ? What was the new covenant ? Why did you stop at verse 31 of Jeremiah 31. If the new covenant was about a Messiah, you would have continued. You are only deceiving yourself. Don't use your tongue to count your teeth. Jesus is a pagan/man made concept. It has nothing to do with God or his new covenant. It is about God's laws. Any body who obeys his laws are his children, not those who reject them. And instead worship an idol. You can't have it both ways. It's either you worship an idol and disobey God's laws or you follow the laws. The Messiah, God promised the Jews is a mortal man like me and you from the line of david through Solomon his son. Not a demi god or a divine human(sic) those are pagan concept meant to deceive. Follow God's divine laws that is the one way you can be on his side. You can't disobey God's divine laws and claim to be on his side. Not possible. The Jews don't even have any tradition of Jesus. They know he is simply a made up character. |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by sonmvayina(m): 8:18am On Apr 20 |
Thankgod89: Jesus is an insult against God. Just like Daniel prophesied. He has got nothing to do with our creator. We are all children of God if we obey his commandments. God is not a man or a human being. (Numbers 23:19) God has no physical form. We are the forms through which God experiences his creation. Your understanding of this statement is the beginning of your salvation. Christianity is a pagan concept created by the Roman empire. They only added it at the end of the Jewish scripture to give it some legitimatimacy. It's idea are so so different from what God revealed in the Torah. Jerimah 31:31 is a new covenant . The old one was written in paper and stone. In the new covenant, the law will be written in our heart so it becomes effortless to keep. Nobody is coming to die for sins. It is a pagan concept. Take responsibility for your actions there is no devil or Satan to push it to. |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by sonmvayina(m): 8:29am On Apr 20 |
Thankgod89:Well our creator calls it idolatry. Are you not bothered ? Commandments number 2: Do not make the image or likeness of anything in the heavens, on earth or under the waters below the earth, do not bow down to them or serve them"... The Romans created a god in the likeness of a man (something that is found on earth ) and you are calling it the truth?? If that is the truth, I wonder what the lie looks like? Well life is all about making choices, you have chosen to follow the wrong way. No problem. I am not the judge. I only wanted to point you to your mistake and get on the right path with God. Maybe in the future when you continue to study, you might come to a better conclusion so be it. There is no prophecy about Jesus in the Torah or Tanakh. What you have are all mistranslation and outright lies. If you think you have, I will entertain your proofs. Maybe 1 or 2 will do. I think I am in the mood for teaching now. |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by Thankgod89: 9:01am On Apr 20 |
sonmvayina: Come on! Your explanation has no solid foundation, and I’d advise you to refrain from engaging in matters beyond your understanding. I’m not here to compel you to follow Jesus—you’ve made choices that seem right to you, so keep going with them. Hold on to your beliefs, but as for me, the Jesus I believe in is not shaken by your reasoning. None of your explanations can uproot my faith in Him, especially since you lack a proper understanding of the Old Testament you’re quoting from. |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by Thankgod89: 9:08am On Apr 20 |
sonmvayina: I appreciate your passion, but I disagree with your conclusions. First, your interpretation of idolatry seems to overlook the distinction between worshipping an image as God and recognizing that God manifested in human form through Jesus. The incarnation isn’t about creating a god in man’s image, but about God choosing to reveal Himself in a way we could understand. That’s not idolatry, it’s divine mercy. As for the prophecies, I’ll gladly share a couple. Isaiah 53 clearly describes a suffering servant who bears the sins of others, this has been historically understood by many, even ancient Jewish scholars, as messianic. Psalm 22 speaks of one who is pierced, surrounded by mockers, whose garments are divided, this isn’t random imagery. Micah 5:2 speaks of a ruler from Bethlehem whose origins are from of old. These are just a few among many. You’re right that life is about choices. I’ve chosen to follow Jesus not out of ignorance, but after study, prayer, and experience. If you’re open to genuine dialogue rather than mockery, I’d be glad to continue. But if your aim is just to teach without listening, then this won’t be fruitful. I pray that, in time, we both grow in truth and humility. |
| Re: Death Is No Longer A Door To Judgment, But A Door To Life by sonmvayina(m): 10:45am On Apr 20 |
Thankgod89: Like I suspected, All mistranslation and our right lies. Isaiah 53 is about a suffering servant and 8 times prior to Isaiah 53, God already said who is servant is, why sweating it? See Isaiah 45:1-7 1 So said the Lord to His anointed one, to Cyrus, whose right hand I held, to flatten nations before him, and the loins of kings I will loosen, to open portals before him, and gates shall not be closed. 2 I will go before you, and I will straighten out crooked paths; I will break portals of copper and cut off bars of iron. 3 And I will give you treasures of darkness, and riches hidden in secret places, in order that you know that I am the Lord Who calls [you] by your name-the Holy One of Israel. 4 For the sake of My servant Jacob, and Israel My chosen one, and I called to you by your name; I surnamed you, yet you have not known Me. 5 I am the Lord, and there is no other; besides Me there is no God: I will strengthen you although you have not known me 6 in order that they know from the shining of the sun and from the west that there is no one besides Me; I am the Lord and there is no other. 7 Who forms light and creates darkness, Who makes peace and creates evil; I am the Lord, Who makes all these. Psalms are songs that are sung during worships. They are not prophecies. Most are written by David. Let's see your Psalm 22. It is a Psalm of David, it was written by him when he was being chased by Saul who sort to kill him. Why do you people like taking text out of its context. You just read a line and you run away with it. That's why it is very easy for somebody to decide you people and swindle you off your money. Read the whole Psalm and see what it is all about before concluding. Micah 5 is about a future king. Was Jesus ever a king? Was he anointed with the special oil that is kept in the ark of the covenant as part of his coronation? No, never. He was never a king. He can't be, because for you to be a king you must be from the tribe of Judah, meaning your father must be from the tribe through the family of Solomon. But Jesus is not from anywhere since his father is a God. |
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