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Re: A Thread For Body Builders by Swiftboy(m): 7:14pm On Oct 24, 2013 |
I heard one may tear muscle while lifting weight. |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by deebrain(m): 7:22pm On Oct 24, 2013 |
Swiftboy: I heard one may tear muscle while lifting weight. I want to believe u are talking about the major tear-the injury-because u tear (slightly) muscle when u lift weights. Blessed are those that start with light weight and increase it as their bodies become stronger. They are the ones that wont experience what u have just talked about. If u try to "jump the gun" by lifting weights that are pretty heavy for u (u cant do at least 5 reps easily), the result might not be funny. Those that press 200kg currently, started by pressing 10kg. Patience and determination remain thy keys. U are blessed. 1 Like |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by sultan003(m): 7:30pm On Oct 24, 2013 |
Swiftboy: I heard one may tear muscle while lifting weight.Possible, happened to me in june while deadlifting, injured my back because i started heavy instead of warming up with a light weight. Let's say the devil caught up with me that day. Have learnt my lessons though. |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by Swiftboy(m): 7:33pm On Oct 24, 2013 |
deebrain:thank you my brother,its just that I want to pack some muscle towards a great event on December! I'll take my time now. |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by Djkels(m): 8:21pm On Oct 24, 2013 |
This is one of the best threads ever...tenks prof |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by Jamesdman(m): 8:44pm On Oct 24, 2013 |
movmentish:Bro.. i think all of your issues is really a single issue, YOU WANT TO GET BIGGER THAN YOU ARE RIGHT NOW. To acheive that you need to get: 1) Get registered to a program at the gym. 2) That program most definitely would include lifting heavy weights, which would be increased progressively. 3) You would have to work every part of your body with weights, you would do bench presses, squats, dead lifting etc 4) The intensity would increase as well, you might start from a beginner level, to intermediate, and then to advanced level. Each varying in the intensity of the workouts. 5) You would have to pay attention to what you eat. You would need to eat like a giant before you become one. Your meals should be highly proteinous. 6) If you can lay your hands on steriod-free supplement, you would need to use them. 7) As an alternative to supplements, i would suggest you use tom brown. It's made locally and is highly proteinous, it's made with fried soya beans, groundnut, maize, millet etc. I was introduced to it by the guys in the gym i first trained. These guys are quite big, one is a professioner judo fighter and trains like hell. He uses just tom brown. When making it (tom brown) i suggest you add a tin of full cream milk, it increases it's richness. After all said... getting bigger is all about eating big and training till you bust!!! |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by brunosucre(m): 9:34pm On Oct 24, 2013 |
Ugosample: Thank you very much. I also have a little issue with my physique. I've got broad chests, but my belly is kinda big(not too big anyway) i've tried sit ups but i felt some pain in my underbelly and close to my groin. Is this pain normal? What other exercise can i do to reduce my belly fat? Or dietary changes? Thanks. If u re a blackberry user, ders ds app I downladed frm app world "6packs in 6weeks" its a really nice one. Try downloading it, I'm sure its gonna do wonders 4 u. But d key is constantly changing ur routines wen ur body starts getting used 2 them. Gudluck. |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by Swiftboy(m): 10:04pm On Oct 24, 2013 |
brunosucre:I hope app is available for android as well? |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by movmentish(m): 10:14pm On Oct 24, 2013 |
James-dman:thanks,hope you wont mind if i send you an email bout my problems? |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by Nobody: 10:21pm On Oct 24, 2013 |
James-dman:how cn i get d tombrown. .and how much is d cost? |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by bufness(m): 11:35pm On Oct 24, 2013 |
ĦƟώ long does it takes 4 D̶̲̥̅̊ muscles 2 repair otself tho |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by Jamesdman(m): 5:37am On Oct 25, 2013 |
movmentish:No p. I would help with the lil' i know. |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by Jamesdman(m): 5:43am On Oct 25, 2013 |
yusufogrin:It's a common local delicacy, mostly made for children. Ask a few women around, i guess you would find one who know about it. You could also make it yourself, if you have the time to fry/roast/toast the components and then ground them to a powdery form. |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by Nobody: 7:41am On Oct 25, 2013 |
none of them sabi tom brown,any other namez? |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by emcemayo: 9:01am On Oct 25, 2013 |
yusufogrin: none of them sabi tom brown,any other namez?it's in the market just ask from local sellers and possibly describe they get it for you |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by emcemayo: 9:03am On Oct 25, 2013 |
James-dman:you sure know your stuff i like your simple and do-able approach and advice to the dude . the thread is sure going places. |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by Nobody: 12:54pm On Oct 25, 2013 |
Professor D.:Try weighted inclined narrow push-ups( I do them by putting two 10kg plates in a knapsack strapped to my upper back, palms flat shouldr-width apart AND feet inclined at a 30 degree angle. 10 sets X 20 reps, 45secs rest between sets). With bench presses you can go heavier( which is always good) but the risk of injury is significantly higher, especially if you don't have a spotter. Plus, with the better control in weighted push-ups you get to train as near to total failure as possible. Only downside is that its easier to lose(compromise) good form when you near failure. |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by brunosucre(m): 11:27pm On Oct 25, 2013 |
Swiftboy: Dunno downloaded it frm BB app world, but der is a possibility of its availability. |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by emcemayo: 7:19pm On Oct 26, 2013 |
so quiet in here una go pump iron be dat |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by ProfessorD(m): 7:59pm On Oct 26, 2013 |
emcemayo:Lol |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by Nobody: 10:46am On Oct 27, 2013 |
last 3monthz. .i was like diz
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Re: A Thread For Body Builders by Nobody: 10:48am On Oct 27, 2013 |
on september 18. . D six packz is visible. .but some fats is covering d sides 1 Like
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Re: A Thread For Body Builders by Nobody: 10:56am On Oct 27, 2013 |
now. .am improving. . .. . . . . . .
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Re: A Thread For Body Builders by Nobody: 10:58am On Oct 27, 2013 |
has any 1 eva tried casilan 90,i wanna know how effective it is. . . |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by stephano100(m): 4:41pm On Oct 27, 2013 |
yusufogrin: on september 18. . D six packz is visible. .but some fats is covering d sidesu dey find six packs wen na money sure pass,od* shey dangote get 6packs.....funmi ni uku uku....#jahbless ft reminisce |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by DBlackCeazer(m): 10:32pm On Oct 27, 2013 |
Hello all,I ve been lifting for quite some time now,i ve noticed improvements except for my shoulders,its still looking scrawny.pls,how do i correct this. |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by DBlackCeazer(m): 10:38pm On Oct 27, 2013 |
yusufogrin: has any 1 eva tried casilan 90,i wanna know how effective it is. . .i tried that ish once,wasnt impressed. |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by ProfessorD(m): 10:53pm On Oct 27, 2013 |
DBlackCeazer: Hello all,I ve been lifting for quite some time now,i ve noticed improvements except for my shoulders,its still looking scrawny.pls,how do i correct this.v |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by ProfessorD(m): 10:53pm On Oct 27, 2013 |
DBlackCeazer: Hello all,I ve been lifting for quite some time now,i ve noticed improvements except for my shoulders,its still looking scrawny.pls,how do i correct this.v Try exercises that focus on your shoulders like military press, lateral raise etc also when lifting tense your shoulders |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by sultan003(m): 7:02pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
DBlackCeazer: Hello all,I ve been lifting for quite some time now,i ve noticed improvements except for my shoulders,its still looking scrawny.pls,how do i correct this.Military press, upright rows. Besides any pressing movement works the shoulders especially the front deltoids |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by Underground: 1:25am On Oct 29, 2013 |
Diet Plan ***Advanced Meal Plan*** Meal 1: 4 egg whites or liquid equivalent 5 whole Omega-3 eggs 2 cup of oatmeal Or: 40-50 grams whey isolate powder 2 tbsp natural peanut butter 2 cup of oatmeal Or: 2 cup liquid egg whites 2tbsp natural peanut butter 2 cup of oatmeal When time is a factor first thing in the morning, simply mix in a shaker bottle your 40g of whey, 1tbsp of PB and your oats. Shake and drink. It may sound unappealing but youll find its not that bad. Many will choose to simply drink their egg whites for convenience. Sounds gross but they have no taste. Use actual egg whites, not egg product. Another good time saving factor is the 3 rd option. Mix it all together in a protein shaker; add in one packet of Splenda shake and drink. Option one is best and carries the most fat but healthy fats KCL: 1000-1040, PT: 49-59, Carb: 113-114, Fat: 25-33 Meal 2: 40-50 grams whey isolate powder mixed in water 2tbsp of natural peanut butter 1cup oatmeal Or: 7-8oz filet or lean beef 1cup Rice green vegetables or green salad Peanut butter mixes easily with your whey. You do not have to do this but doing so is fine. How you cook your steak makes no difference. Grilled, baked or pan cooked with Pam is great. Green vegetables should not have added ingredients such as cheese or butter. KCL: 640-720, PT: 45-48, Carb: 50-65, Fat: 20-25 Meal 3: 8oz chicken breast, turkey or fish 1 cup rice 2oz almonds or cashews green vegetables Or: 8oz chicken breast, turkey or fish 2 sweet potatoes 2oz almonds or cashews green vegetables Baking, grilling or boiling your chicken is the easiest. Cook enough to last you several days as well as the rice. Sweet potatoes can be cooked quickly in the microwave. Just poke a few holes in the skin with a knife or fork Choose Normal size sweet potatoes or one very large one. Brown rice is healthier but white is fine KCL: 784-868, PT: 57-60, Carb: 55-65, Fat: 25-28 Meal 4: Same as meal 1 Mix it up to help with variety KCL: 1000-1040, PT: 49-59, Carb: 113-114, Fat: 25-33 Meal 5: Same as meal 3 You should never add sugar to your Oats, Splenda is fine KCL: 784-868, PT: 57-60, Carb: 55-65, Fat: 25-28 Meal6: 10-12 egg whites or liquid equivalent 2 whole Omega-3 eggs Or: 7-8oz filet or lean beef Or: 40 grams whey isolate mixed in water 2tbsp natural peanut butter Last meal of the day, it should be eaten not too far off before bedtime. Being hungry before you go to bed is never any fun. There are no carbs in this meal since you dont need them. Youve already trained, youve already had your post workout shake KCL: KCL: 450-480, PT: 40-45, Carb: 0-10, Fat: 10-20 ***Post Workout Shake*** 40-50 grams of whey isolate 60-70 grams of a fast acting Waxy Maze Drink this immediately after training, within 15-20 minutes after you have cooled down. This meal is not your last meal of the day, which is still meal 6. Place the post workout shake in right after you train, whenever that is. Have your next meal approximately 45-60 minutes after your shake. KCL: 320-360, PT: 20, Carb: 60-70, Fat: 0-2 Daily Totals: Calories (KCL): 4978-5356 Protein (PT): 317-347 Carb: 446-503 Fat: 124-163 *Note: Diet does not take into account carbs from green vegetables. This will take your carb total over the amount listed but dont let this worry you at all. ***VERY IMPORTANT*** Our number one goal is QUALITY, NOT QUANTITY. Because of this, it is imperative that we stay within approximately 15-20lbs of our contest weight; this does not include water loss weight. If you are not a competitor, you should still follow this rule; you will look better and you will feel better. If at any time you begin moving beyond this point, you need to examine your diet. Use the advice given in this diet guide and examine your cardio schedule ***IF AT ANY TIME YOU NEED TO LOSE BODY FAT AND YOU BEGIN TO STAGNATE, YOU WILL NEED TO BEGIN MOVING YOUR CARB AND FAT SOURCES AROUND. At this point alternate each meal, in one meal have foods that give you carb sources, but take away the fats, in the next meal take away the carb sources and keep in the fats. You may need to begin cycling your carb intake. Not in the manner in which you might do if you were dieting hard for competition. You will need to experiment with this. When we speak of Carb Cycling in this case, simply cut the carbs down one day and then go back to the normal amount the next. At times it may be wise to keep the carbs cut back 2 days in a row, use sound judgment. This is the kind of thing that cannot be written out in detail since it will greatly vary from person to person. *Your daily caloric intake should be split into 3 sections that are adequately planned for utilizing Proteins, Carbs and Fats to the fullest extent possible. Protein being the bulk of your calories, but this does not mean the other 2 nutrients are not of equal importance. Protein will make up 50% of your daily intake, while carbs will be at approximately 30% and fats will make up approximately the remaining 20%. This only refers to your actual food intake. Fat intake will in actuality be slightly higher than this due to the supplements you take, which will be discussed further into the diet outline. ***Notes on diet*** If you train first thing in the morning, do not do so before eating your first meal of the day There is a post workout shake in your diet at this point, however if you notice that you are gaining too much fat, this is the first thing that should go. If this happens, drop the post workout shake and simply stick with the 6 meal plan. If you have had to cut the post workout shake but are still gaining too much fat, start reducing carbs by way of cutting back your oats and rice. Cut back to 1/2cup per serving if needed. Meal order is unimportant, specific meals should be eaten at certain times, as said in bullet points above, however, the specific layout of the meal plan is not set in stonemake it fit your routine as best as possible. Try your best not to drink shakes back to back. Try to limit it to no more then two shake meals per day. This is not a must but will aid you a great deal. However it will not always be possible due to time constraints, and thats fine. For the last meal of the day there are 3 meal choices, again mix and match ***Notes on Food Types*** 1. Eggs: Eggs are one of the best sources of protein you can consume. With all foods, no matter how much protein the food has, the body can only use and process a limited amount from each food. Eggs, however, rank higher than almost any food we can ingest; almost the entire amount of protein from the egg will be utilized. Omega-3 eggs have even more benefit for the bodybuilder, as well as for general health. Omega-3 eggs have Omega-3 fats in them, a huge building block to a well-tuned physique; as well as an added bonus in helping to control cholesterol. If you cant find Omega-3 eggs, which should be very rare, regular eggs will work fine. 2. Whey Protein: There are a million brands and types of whey proteins on the market today, and it can be a difficult task to know which one is best. Choose a protein powder that is of isolate form, not concentrate. Isolate protein absorbs more efficiently then concentrate. Choose a protein powder that is very low in sugar, close to no sugar or even no sugar is what you want. Choose a protein powder that is not full of saturated fat. Choose a protein powder that is not high in cholesterol. Once you have narrowed your search down to meet the above requirements, choose the protein powder that taste the best. 3. Peanut Butter: Use only natural peanut butter. Your peanut butters ingredient list should read, Peanuts and salt thats it. It should have no added sugar. A jar of Smuckers Natural Peanut Butter will have 2 grams of sugar listed on the back label for one serving of 2tbsp naturally. 4. Beef: Your choices of beef should be filet minion, top round sirloin, lean ground beef (4%-*% fat) in that order. 5. Chicken: Make chicken breast your primary source of chicken. Chicken is high in protein, low in unhealthy fats and a perfect bodybuilding food. 6. Green Vegetables: Broccoli, asparagus, spinach and green beans should be your main source of vegetables. Other vegetables can be acceptable and can be good for you, but the before mentioned should be your primary source. Vegetables such as corn, white potatoes, and tomatoes should be held to a very minimal consumptionthere is no benefit for these in your diet at this stage. 7. Fish: Choose fish such as flounder or cod. Salmon is also a great choice in place of beef. 8. Turkey: Choose the white meat. 9. Rice: Brown or white is fine. If you put on body fat easily stick with Brown. Both are very similar, however, brown rice is lower on the glycemic index. (see definition for glycemic index) 10. Sweet Potatoes & Oatmeal: Simply excellent sources for your carbs, and perfect foods for aiding in putting on muscle in your diet. ***Measuring Food*** 1. Meats: Measured raw, NOT cooked 2. Rice: Measured cooked, NOT raw 3. Oats: Measured raw, NOT cooked 4. Nuts, Peanut Butter: Simply measured in a cup or tablespoon ***Cheat Meals*** For most, one cheat meal per week is acceptable and recommended For those that have extremely fast metabolisms, 1 small cheat food or treat is acceptable, but limit the entire meal to once per week. You should already know if you have a very, very fast metabolism. Less the 25% of you will fall into this category. ***Foods to be Avoided*** Milk of any type: All milk contains massive amounts of sugar, regardless if Whole, Skim or in between, it contains the same amount of sugar Processed foods: Most processed foods contain large amounts of sugar and often lack the nutrients you need Soda: Any soda that is sugar free, i.e. Diet Coke is fine. If it is not diet or sugar free, then do not drink it. Fast Food: This should be a no brainer. Fast foods are loaded with sugar and all the bad fats that simply make you fat. Whats worse is they are packed full of calories but many of these calories are the wrong types. Fast food is more often than not made up of so much sugar and saturated fat that the bulk of your calories in those meals come from those two physique building enemies Excess Cheese: A little cheese here and there is not going to be the end of the world, but there is not a lot of benefit from eating cheese. If youre following a proper diet, proper means gaining lean muscle with as little fat as possible or dropping body fat while preserving lean tissue. Dont go overboard, dont do as some and cover everything you eat in cheese. The less you eat, the better youll do. Excess Condiments: Condiments cause many bodybuilders to consume more calories per day then they should. Many condiments are riddled with sugar and this is a major downfall to many diets. See list of Acceptable Condiments. Bread: Bread is often a favorite food for many to eat. For a true hard gainer bread may have a place in a diet. In a real pinch, at times, it may be slightly necessary, but it should be avoided as much as possible. As a part of a regular diet, eating bread is one of the surest fire ways to add excess body fat. Cereal: This has no place in a bodybuilders diet. Even the healthy cereals are in loaded with empty calories; in fact, the so-called healthy cereals are often packed full of more empty calories and more sugar then the so-called Kiddy cereals. ***Acceptable Condiments*** 1. Mustard: calorie free, eat all you want 2. Vinegar: all you want 3. Any spice such as pepper, garlic powder, onion powder, oregano, etc. 4. Low carb Ketchup: Ketchup itself has no place in your diet, but a little low carb ketchup which has 1g of sugar per serving will be acceptable. 5. Low Carb Buffalo Sauce: this can be a great addition to your chicken; a low carb buffalo sauce should have no sugar added and only 1 carb per serving. 6. Any condiment made by Walden Farms. Walden Farms makes a line of salad dressings, sauces and other items that are fat free, sugar free and gluten free. ***Condiments or Additives to be Avoided*** 1. Regular Ketchup 2. Barbeque Sauce 3. Regular Salad Dressings. See list of approved salad dressings 4. Creamers 5. Any sauce with sugar or abundant carbs. If the sauce has more than 1-2 grams of sugar, avoid it. ***Approved Salad Dressings*** 1. Oil & Vinegar 2. Sugar free Italian, Balsamic or Greek 3. Any Salad Dressing by Walden Farms ***Protein Bars*** As a rule, protein bars and other so called bodybuilding snacks or meal replacements should be avoided as much as possible. Most of these items will have more sugar in them then a regular candy bar. True, they may indeed be packed full of protein but the sugar far outweighs the benefit. If you are bulking, you find yourself in a jam and there is no other option, choose a protein bar that has the least amount of sugar. This should be a very limited occurrence. If you are serious about your diet, you will plan out and make arrangements to ensure youre getting the proper foods. ***Hard Gainers*** -If you are in fact a true hard gainer, some adjustments may need to be made. The first change would be adding in an extra meal or two. Choose meals that are similar to the ones in the outline. Your next option would be adding in more carbs per serving, start by adding an extra cup of rice or oats to your meals that have these foods. The 3 rd and final option, after you have tried both of the other two methods, adding in more meals or adding extra carbs to all your meals, now its time to do both. Less then 5% of you will fall into this category. If you follow the above outline for 8 weeks and are still not gaining, continue to add in more meals and more carbs. At this stage there is no sample Hard Gainers diet, this diet should make anyone grow, it doesnt matter who you are. ***The Diet Outline itself*** The above diet outline will help you make the progress you desire, however, as this is a guided plan, there are substitutions that are acceptable. When it comes to the meats and protein sources, what you have read above should be followed fairly closely. There are instances when other meats are acceptable, i.e. things like beef tenderloin can be great, but the above listed is your staple. If you desire other carb sourced foods, and this is the big one where many people want a change, always examine the glycemic index. You should make your choices from foods that are lower on the glycemic index. If you want to sub one carb source food that is in your diet outline with another, gauge the glycemic index to make your choices. See the discussion on Glycemic Index below. Fats, these will be harder to substitute then carbs. Fats are a very important aspect to the diet, but keep in mind that as great and as important as fats are, most of the best ones have been mentioned in the diet outline already. Foods loaded with saturated fat are not acceptable. Foods that have fats that lack the connecting piece of the puzzle when it comes to healthy fats are not acceptable. ***Glycemic Index*** The glycemic index (GI) measures the effects of carbohydrates on blood glucose levels. The faster the carb breaks down, the faster it will release glucose into the bloodstream. The foods that do this fast are labeled high GI foods. The slower the release of glucose, the lower the food will rank on the GI. Foods that are lower on the GI will typically have higher health benefits such as keeping insulin levels under control, and preventing type-2 diabetes and coronary heart disease. Foods low on the GI will have a ranking of 55 or lower on the GI Index. Foods that are Medium GI foods will have a ranking of 56-69 on the GI Index. Foods that are High GI foods will have a ranking of 70-99 on the GI Index. The ranking of 100 on the GI Index is pure sugar. Below is a chart to show how some foods rank on the GI. ***Supplements*** *Omega-3 Fish Oil: 3000mg every day, split into 3 doses, taken with food *Coral Calcium: 1000mg-1500mg every day, taken with food *Potassium: 99mg every day, taken with food *Juice Plus+ or Related Product: 2 garden blend in the morning, 2 orchard blend at night, both taken with food Omega-3 Fish Oil: An unsaturated fatty acid essential for good health. -Benefits: Reduce risk of coronary heart disease, increase blood circulation, therefore decreasing circulatory problems. Reduce blood pressure Reduce blood triglyceride levels therefore reducing heart attack risk Reduce flair up of arthritis or its onset Improve cholesterol levels Stronger immune system Works as an anti-inflammatory Coral Calcium: A very important mineral for your overall health. -Benefits: Keeps bones strong and healthy Helps maintain good oral health (teeth) Aides in muscular contraction Deficiency can lead to blood clotting, rickets and osteoporosis Potassium: Important mineral for electrolyte balance in the body. The green vegetables you are eating in your diet provide potassium, as well as the Juice Plus+ that is strongly recommended, however, it is easy to fall below what your body adequately needs due to the hard training. Potassium deficiency coupled with hard training can often lead to some serious muscle cramping. -Benefits Maintain electrolyte balance Decrease risk of hypertension Juice Plus+: A whole food based nutritional supplement, including juice powder concentrates from 17 different fruits, vegetables and grains. Each ingredient is specially selected to provide a broad range of nutritional benefits. As a physique athlete it is easy to not get as many of the nutrients you need from fruits and vegetables; Juice Plus+ will take care of this completely. -Benefits: Juice Plus delivers key phytonutrients that are absorbed by the body Reduces markers of oxidative stress. Positively impacts several key indicators of cardiovascular wellness. Helps support a healthy immune system and protect DNA. *You can take other supplements if you like, but try to stay away from anything that has added sugar in it. A lot of supplements contain sugar, and as someone looking to build a great body sugar is one of the number one enemies. The supplements above, along with the diet youll be following is all you really need to get the job done. Whats more, youll be keeping your pocket book fuller if you spend less on supplements and rely on food as the bulk of your daily intake. ***When to Advance to a More Advanced Diet*** At this stage things have changed. Most of you will be going back and forth between this diet and a pre-contest or similar diet during different points of the year. Because of that, once your pre-contest or similar diet is over, simply return to this diet again. However, many of you will be better suited to ease back into it with some caution; let your body get used to eating excess calories again. Its healthier this way, will yield more positive gains then negative, and if nothing else. 1 Like |
Re: A Thread For Body Builders by Nobody: 8:12am On Oct 29, 2013 |
Professor D.:On point. |
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