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Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by MEILYN(m): 9:33am On Nov 03, 2013 |
Ajibam: _^^that's a warning...why did you hide the post? Na wa oo. Did the Op complain about the post? Oh my gosh.... Ajibam u dey fall hand to pieces. |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by TheMadame(f): 9:34am On Nov 03, 2013 |
Ajibam: http://www.tektonics.org/gk/judasdeath.html Could you please post it on the thread. I don't know how to do it. Or explain t me so I can transfer it here. Thanks in advance. |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by Damlesky(m): 9:59am On Nov 03, 2013 |
Matthew 27:3-8 Then Judas, which had betrayed 1 Like |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by Ajibam: 10:05am On Nov 03, 2013 |
TheMadame: sorry for the other time... my apology.. happy Sunday |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by Ajibam: 10:06am On Nov 03, 2013 |
thanks @damlesky |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by Ajibam: 10:08am On Nov 03, 2013 |
TheMadame: sorry for the other time... my apology.. happy Sunday Vilicious: @AJIBAM for the few times I have been on nairaland, i have always admired your writings and your ideas, it all change now for what you just did. We are debating an issue and everyone of us is presenting our ideas, even if i dint like his post, i still think using your powers as a MOD was uncalled for. Ban me if you like, or hide the post. And please if you know the answer kindly give the lady who is willing to learn, besides when the ethiopian eunoch was travelling to Gaza he was reading a passage in the bible and could not understand but God sent philip to interprete it to him. So you see, telling her will not spoil her. No de fall my hand abeg MEILYN: why did you hide the post? Na wa oo. Did the Op complain about the post? Oh my gosh.... Ajibam u dey fall hand to pieces. my sincere apology |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by blesoh(f): 10:08am On Nov 03, 2013 |
TheMadame:then read it well,d holy spirit will interprete it for u. |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by blesoh(f): 10:10am On Nov 03, 2013 |
[quote author=MEILYN] You are a Christian right? Why dont u answer her question now? . Thats how you Christians dodge questions and afterwards what we will hear is 'may God deliver u' 'may God help u' e.t.c e.t.c. Her question meant no harm, she was just curious. Oya madam u better answer oo. How did Judas die?[/quote] and wats ur biz if i choose not to answer such a question. |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by TheMadame(f): 10:34am On Nov 03, 2013 |
@damlesky, Thank you,although in all honesty the article is even more confusing. 1 Like |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by TheMadame(f): 10:40am On Nov 03, 2013 |
Ajibam: No problem. I believe Christians should fellowship and debate all ambiguities in the Bible. Questions about the Bible should not be treated with suspicion and threatened with eternal damnation . We learn every day. Thank you for your contribution,and happy Sunday to you. |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by TheMadame(f): 10:42am On Nov 03, 2013 |
blesoh: Follow this thread,you might learn some thing. |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by AlfaSeltzer(m): 12:28pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
Ajibam: very xtian of you to apologise to your fellow xtians but not to the person who you actually wronged and threatened. 1 Like |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by Joshthefirst(m): 12:44pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
Judas hung himself, his body swelled and decayed, the rope cut and he fell headlong and burst open. 1 Like |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by ubl6: 12:53pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
In Islam, the Quran tells us that: “Do they not then consider the Quran carefully? Had it been from other than God, they would surely have found therein much contradictions” 4:82 In other words God told us, this is an ‘acid test’ — a criteria for testing any Book that claims to be ‘His Words’. That Book must not be contradictory. It must be consistent in itself and cannot contain any errors or mistakes. For God is perfect, therefore His perfection must reflect in ‘His Book’. That Judas example sighted by the OP above is just one of the hundreds of contradictions in the ‘Holy Bible’!. Pls mods don't hide my comment because we are in a Democratic era o. Lol |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by harbiola1(m): 3:35pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
@damleksy, welldone, bt u didn't even atempt my question and that's unfair. may b it's because i'm a muslim but i think that shouldn't be a problem afterall thats the purpose of the thread. here is the question again for damleksy and others bt u guys shldn't fall my clean hands again. 1. father of Bashemath the wife of esau (isaac's son) is 2. elon the hittite is the father of ....... Genesis 36:2-3, Genesis 26:34 Goodluck @damleksy, welldone, bt u didn't even atempt my question and that's unfair. may b it's because i'm a muslim but i think that shouldn't be a problem afterall thats the purpose of the thread. here is the question again for damleksy and others bt u guys shldn't fall my clean hands again. 1. father of Bashemath the wife of esau (isaac's son) is 2. elon the hittite is the father of ....... Genesis 36:2-3, Genesis 26:34 Goodluck |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by Ranchhoddas: 3:50pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
Ajibam: http://www.tektonics.org/gk/judasdeath.htmlif u have the Holy Spirit as u claim u will not need to copy and paste a link to answer a question 1 Like |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by Dantedasz(m): 4:01pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
Joshthefirst: Judas hung himself, his body swelled and decayed, the rope cut and he fell headlong and burst open. Very convenient answer,but WHO bought the field of blood he died in? Judas Iscariot or the Chief Priests and elders? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by Empiree: 1:32am On May 19, 2015 |
anthoniosp:Look at this one....but when Pamela Geller utters nonsense about Islam and its prophet(saw), you folks don't hesitate to line up behind her back. "It's freedom of speech" 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by Empiree: 1:35am On May 19, 2015 |
TheMadame:How did they make it out?. Doesnt seem christians answered your questions. I just raised the same here today https://www.nairaland.com/2321487/pay-christian-n100-000-show/2 and this https://www.nairaland.com/2172133/question-did-jesus-read-bible/9#31560618 1 Like |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by Empiree: 1:40am On May 19, 2015 |
blesoh:holy spirit 1 Like |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by johnw74: 5:55am On May 19, 2015 |
Mat 27:3 Then he who had betrayed Him, seeing that He was condemned, sorrowing, Judas returned the thirty pieces of silver again to the chief priests and elders, Mat 27:4 saying, I have sinned, betraying innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? You see to that. Mat 27:5 And he threw the pieces of silver down in the temple and departed. And he went and hanged himself. Mat 27:6 And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, It is not lawful to put them into the treasury, because it is the price of blood. Mat 27:7 And they took counsel and bought the potter's field with them, to bury strangers in. Mat 27:8 Therefore that field was called, The Field of Blood, to this day. Mat 27:9 Then that which was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet was fulfilled, saying, "And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of Him who had been priced, whom they of the children of Israel valued, Mat 27:10 and gave them for the potter's field, as the Lord appointed me." Act 1:18 Indeed, then, this one purchased a field with the reward of unrighteousness. And falling headlong, he burst apart in the middle, and all his bowels gushed out. Act 1:19 And it was known to all the dwellers at Jerusalem, so much so that that field is called in their own dialect, Akeldama, that is to say, Field of Blood. There doesn't have to be any conflict between the two accounts, Act 1:18 Indeed, then, this one purchased a field with the reward of unrighteousness Mat 27:7 And they took counsel and bought the potter's field with them It was judas money that purchased the potters field, even though it was the chief priests that physically bought the field with judas money. Judas hanged himself, the branch broke and he fell forward onto a sharp rock tearing himself asunder and being disemboweled. It doesn't have to be conflicting, that is just one possibility, and some could put it much better than me. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by Scholar8200(m): 8:50am On May 19, 2015 |
" The word here rendered "headlong" - πρηνής prēnēs (Latin "pronus," whence our English word "prone" - means properly "bent forward, head-foremost"; and the idea is, that his position in hanging himself was such that when the cord broke he fell headlong, or fell forward on his face. He first hanged himself, and then fell and was burst asunder "(Culled from Biblehub)"When a hanging body decomposes, this will be the grisly result"(Evidence Bible) The passage in Acts said he fell meaning he was at an elevated point from whence the falling took place. Well Judas regretted his actions afterward and it was obvious that he was still in possession of the money though arrangement for the purchase of the field was in top gear and was not without the knowledge of the religious leaders/sanhedrin who were the judges of their time considering the fact that the issue of land as an inheritance and the transfer of such was a great issue among the Israelites/the law. Indeed, this is buttressed by the fact that he hanged himself on the same land. See Ruth 4:3-11a 3 And he said unto the kinsman, Naomi, that is come again out of the country of Moab, selleth a parcel of land, which was our brother Elimelech’s: 4 and I thought to advertise thee, saying, Buy it before the inhabitants, and before the elders of my people. If thou wilt redeem it, redeem it: but if thou wilt not redeem it,5 Then said Boaz, What day thou buyest the field of the hand of Naomi, thou must buy it also of Ruth the Moabitess, the wife of the dead, to raise up the name of the dead upon his inheritance. 6 And the kinsman said, I cannot redeem it for myself, lest I mar mine own inheritance: redeem thou my right to thyself; 9 And Boaz said unto the elders, and unto all the people, Ye are witnesses this day, that I have bought all that was Elimelech’s, and all that was Chilion’s and Mahlon’s, of the hand of Naomi. 11 And all the people that were in the gate, and the elders, said, We are witnesses. Note the highlighted texts. Also note that money was not paid immediately by the buyer;just a declaration of interest and willingness was admissible then; payment was done later in some cases. He really did not repent; he rather regretted his actions and committed suicide. Remorse is not synonymous with repentance. |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by Empiree: 10:58am On May 19, 2015 |
johnw74:@underlined, is clearly your input. It also contradicts Bible scholars. Do you have any idea what some bible scholars said about Act 1:18 Indeed, then, this one purchased a field with the reward of unrighteousness. And falling headlong, he burst apart in the middle, and all his bowels gushed out. They gave it a new meaning. They said it is parable. I have a christian who posted such a silly reply in another thread. This means you have no reasonable commentaries behind the verse. So you saying the tree he hung himself cracked or broke and he fell is unfounded. You just trying to fit your own interpretation. These are clear contradictions. Try harder next time fella 1 Like |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by johnw74: 11:50am On May 19, 2015 |
Empiree: Of course it's my input, that's what I said johnw74: Empiree: No that was good enough for me fella |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by Empiree: 1:00pm On May 19, 2015 |
johnw74:sorry, your theory is boloney |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by johnw74: 4:07pm On May 19, 2015 |
Empiree: Don't let it bother you, get some beauty sleep, sleep for about a year should do it. They say fish is good brain food, try eating a whale. |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by Nobody: 4:30pm On May 19, 2015 |
Two different authors, two different accounts that don't agree. Simple really. 2 Likes |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by anthoniosp(m): 3:39pm On May 21, 2015 |
Empiree:give me ten reasons why I should know your pallema gutter? I don't know her and if she is a islamophobic den I don't wanna know her...BT if you truly despise her mutterings den why follow in her footsteps..you call som1 a devil but you do what d person does..den tell me what you are? |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by anthoniosp(m): 3:56pm On May 21, 2015 |
johnw74:oboi..you dey try ooh..I no dey see Islam vs Christianity as argument again ooh..der latest na atheism vs islam.....it turned out to be the hilarious... |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by anthoniosp(m): 4:00pm On May 21, 2015 |
Empiree:sheen.....see am a christian as you already know......... 1....this is not the only contradiction in the English Bible.... ah ah check in the old testament about number of years and deer are many contradictions in d bible because of translation from the original language to other languages of which Islam no fit even try am 2...oyaa wait you grabbed d whole message na..der was a field and there was a money, deer was a buy der was a Judas and der was a die....so wetin you want hear again...Judas die for field after he betray Jesus.. |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by Empiree: 4:22pm On May 21, 2015 |
anthoniosp:And you still remain in Christianity after knowing this?. |
Re: How Did Judas Iscariot Actually Die? by Empiree: 4:24pm On May 21, 2015 |
anthoniosp:Ask google who she is |
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