Davidbanky:



We all know that Goetze is a better player than Toni if no be form loss, even at that he still scored and has more assist than Toni, and mind you Madrid carry their first five champions league when 5 teams dey play am.,, hahahaha

don't even play the same role. Gotze is more offensive player than, but Toni is more versatile. I 'overhyped' his versatility before the WC and he proved me right to have been selected among the best player of the tournament. That's a great recognition. he didn't score more than 2 or provided as many assists as other players, but his contributions are vital. its either he provides the pass or gives the ball to the player and will go and provide the assist.

Davidbanky:


In Dortmund, he averaged a total of 31 goals in 3 seasons and this is bayern ...

He won't score 30 goals next season.

^^
Barring a major injury he would easily score 40. You can put your money where your mouth is if e sure for you

toba: don't even play the same role. Gotze is more offensive
player than, but Toni is more versatile. I 'overhyped' his versatility
before the WC and he proved me right to have been selected among the
best player of the tournament. That's a great recognition. he didn't
score more than 2 or provided as many assists as other players, but his
contributions are vital. its either he provides the pass or gives the
ball to the player and will go and provide the assist.

Kroos versatile? A player that can only play as a CM? And is at times decent as an AM? He had a good world cup but he only really stood out in the game against Brazil but even Khedira looked like Zidane that day! He failed to provide an assist from open play all World Cup and guys like Mueller and Oezil who were played out of position still created more chances than he did. Lets not even mention the gift he handed Higuain in the final! while Goetze and Boa-TANK came to the rescue

toba: No. Thiago was forced on Bayern Munich by Pep Guardiola
and earning more. Toni suits well in club and National team. I said if
ozil failed to show up, its only Toni that can step into his shoes and
he did at the WC. don't blame him for moving ahead. that's what I think
regarding the money thing.

Oezil didn't fail to show up he was played out of position to accommodate Kroos but still did a solid job. Infact if we compared Oezil at SA 2010 to Kroos of 2014 Oezil was marginally better

Kroos would be replaced seamlessly by Hojbjerg and Thiago i only pray they are fit the entire season. We would be here asking Toni who? You can't demand astronomical wages and be dropping 2 goals and 4 assists in an entire BuLI Season

We havent seen barackohansom advocate of the under privilege clubs come to protest about how Southampton is being ripped apart

Or how Barcelona is strenghtening Valencia by buying Jeremy Matthieu

A40:
Kroos versatile? A player that can only play as a CM? And is at times decent as an AM? He had a good world cup but he only really stood out in the game against Brazil but even Khedira looked like Zidane that day! He failed to provide an assist from open play all World Cup and guys like Mueller and Oezil who were played out of position still created more chances than he did. Lets not even mention the gift he handed Higuain in the final! while Goetze and Boa-TANK came to the rescue

I'm sure you don't want us to start this Toni kroos debate again. If we start, it'll be long before we end it. There're couple of distorted fact in your post. kroos plays and can play more than one position. You may wish to review the positions he has played since he became a professional. Also in the first 4 games at the world cup, what position did Toni played and what formation was adopted by Low? That he really stood out in one game is another false assertion. Many players were played out of position in the WC team by Low, but did their best in their given roles.

A40:

Oezil didn't fail to show up he was played out of position to accommodate Kroos but still did a solid job. Infact if we compared Oezil at SA 2010 to Kroos of 2014 Oezil was marginally better

Kroos would be replaced seamlessly by Hojbjerg and Thiago i only pray they are fit the entire season. We would be here asking Toni who? You can't demand astronomical wages and be dropping 2 goals and 4 assists in an entire BuLI Season

Firstly, is ozil the same player he was 4 years ago in the immediate past season? Even if he played the number 10 position, his doing better would still be on probability.

lastly no player is irreplaceable in any team except you're a Lionel messi. We thought Kahn was the best, till Neuer showed up. Same way we've had hasler, Moller, diesler, ballack till we got to the ozil era

raumdeuter: We havent seen barackohansom advocate of the under privilege clubs come to protest about how Southampton is being ripped apart

Or how Barcelona is strenghtening Valencia by buying Jeremy Matthieu

You don start again abi?

barackohandso: You don start again abi?

Ambassador for poor clubs, come and defend the poor clubs once again

Dhelake: Ambassador for poor clubs, come and defend the poor clubs once again

I hear

Dhelake: Ambassador for poor clubs, come and defend the poor clubs once again

How he wan take defend when they have joined in decimating small clubs.

Sevilla and Valencia would be praising Barcelona for making them weaker now.

Not to mention Davi Alves, Jordi Alba, David Villa, Seydou Keita etc

Barack was just trolling i'm sure he didn't believe half of what he wrote. Shebi now that the butchered league has gone on to butcher the world and the dreams of la midget baba don gentle

toba: I'm sure you don't want us to start this Toni kroos debate
again. If we start, it'll be long before we end it. There're couple of
distorted fact in your post. kroos plays and can play more than one
position. You may wish to review the positions he has played since he
became a professional. Also in the first 4 games at the world cup, what
position did Toni played and what formation was adopted by Low?

Chale don't get it twisted now wey the ginjah of that 7-1 don die down the Kroos bashing is in full effect! If you wan start anything i full ground. I have told you repeatedly the positions Kroos can play 'effectively' in and even described his playing style.

I have no care or concern for where or what he started his career as. For the first 4 games he was the most advanced midfielder in the lineup for the most part so whats new?

Nothing false about my assertion he was the best German player against Brazil but in every other game he was outshone by at least two German players

A40- are you saying Kroos was the main enforcer in that match?


Don't get it twisted as I think you are relying on FIFA man of the match award which is based on goals scored but not merit... --- Khedira was the main player on the field that day...

toba: Firstly, is ozil the same player he was 4 years ago in the
immediate past season? Even if he played the number 10 position, his
doing better would still be on probability.

lastly no player is irreplaceable in any team except you're a Lionel
messi. We thought Kahn was the best, till Neuer showed up. Same way
we've had hasler, Moller, diesler, ballack till we got to the ozil
era

This is a jamb question ooh! Even your previous statement if Mesut failed the team is also based on probables. What is your evidence for that? A few meaningless friendlies?

Kroos had no assist from open play and created fewer chances than the guy that didn't play as a #10

A40: Barack was just trolling i'm sure he didn't believe half of what he wrote. Shebi now that the butchered league has gone on to butcher the world and the dreams of la midget baba don gentle

trolling? Lol! Indeed. Whoever argued against 'die mannshaft'? Germany will always be Germany. I always said bayern wouldn't boss Europe the way they do BuLi (post Heynckes), did real madrid not justify me? Una sabi sha no lie, and I happy for Lahm especially say him finally carry WC. Leave la pulga alone na, wetin you want make him do again?

[quote
author=coded01]A40- are you saying Kroos was the main enforcer in that
match?


Don't get it twisted as I think you are relying on FIFA man of the match
award which is based on goals scored but not merit... --- Khedira
was the main player on the field that day... [/quote]
Naah gee! I'm not crazy about Kroos but even i would not deny that he was the best player on the pitch! Its not about the goals sef go and check out his allround play. Khedira ko Belinda ni

A40:
Chale don't get it twisted now wey the ginjah of that 7-1 don die down the Kroos bashing is in full effect! If you wan start anything i full ground. I have told you repeatedly the positions Kroos can play 'effectively' in and even described his playing style.

I have no care or concern for where or what he started his career as. For the first 4 games he was the most advanced midfielder in the lineup for the most part so whats new?

Nothing false about my assertion he was the best German player against Brazil but in every other game he was outshone by at least two German players

One football analyst said ' when Kroos play well, the whole team plays well, just like the7-1drubbing of Brazil

^^
I'm sure the analyst meant Kroos plays well when the team is playing well

barackohandso:
trolling? Lol! Indeed.
Whoever argued against 'die mannshaft'? Germany will always be Germany.
I always said bayern wouldn't boss Europe the way they do BuLi (post
Heynckes), did real madrid not justify me? Una sabi sha no lie, and I
happy for Lahm especially say him finally carry WC. Leave la pulga alone
na, wetin you want make him do again?

That isn't what you said! You claimed Bayern was butchering the league and making it weaker so i'm asking is Keylor Navas leaving Levante to Real strengthening the league? Did you strengthen the league when you snatched Rakitic and Mathieu from Seville and Valencia?

Your old coach sabotaged us against Madrid with his asinine tactics. Even with a weaker team under Heynckes we advanced. The last WC clearly showed this! And to think some Barca fans are actually giving Guardiola huge credit for Die Mannschaft's success. Its disrespectful

A40: ^^
I'm sure the analyst meant Kroos plays well when the team is playing well


That isn't what you said! You claimed Bayern was butchering the league and making it weaker so i'm asking is Keylor Navas leaving Levante to Real strengthening the league? Did you strengthen the league when you snatched Rakitic and Mathieu from Seville and Valencia?

Your old coach sabotaged us against Madrid with his asinine tactics. Even with a weaker team under Heynckes we advanced. The last WC clearly showed this! And to think some Barca fans are actually giving Guardiola huge credit for Die Mannschaft's success. Its disrespectful

Geez Mehn watcha got against Pep? The man has gotten you 4 trophies already, one of which you haven't won in your history before. Haba! I knew this emboldened line would come, whatever happened to accepting defeat? Or wasn't it the same tactic that got you to the semis? Barca/Spain and Bayern/Germany's WC success synchronized with Pep's reign, even you have to agree that there are some coincedences that can't be kept quiet about. As per your league butchering…well you know na No need for long talk

DO you notice any league butchering when Rakitic and Matthieu moved to Barcelona?

How come we havent seen you crying and crusading for the smaller Sevilla and Valencia

raumdeuter: DO you notice any league butchering when Rakitic and Matthieu moved to Barcelona?

How come we havent seen you crying and crusading for the smaller Sevilla and Valencia

At least we didn't sign Real Madrid's / Atletico Madrid's best players

barackohandso: At least we didn't sign Real Madrid's / Atletico Madrid's best players

What difference does it make when you signed Sevilla Europa cup winners best player after going trophyless

At least you made sure Sevilla would never rise for the time being

barackohandso: Geez Mehn watcha got against Pep? The man has gotten you 4 trophies already, one of which you haven't won in your history before. Haba! I knew this emboldened line would come, whatever happened to accepting defeat? Or wasn't it the same tactic that got you to the semis? Barca/Spain and Bayern/Germany's WC success synchronized with Pep's reign, even you have to agree that there are some coincedences that can't be kept quiet about. As per your league butchering…well you know na No need for long talk

I will like to correct ur line 8 sir, our champions league success, bayern/Germany synchronized jupp's reign, until guardiola gives us a champions league before we can synchronize his team with any German success ... Thank you

barackohandso:
Geez Mehn watcha got against Pep? The man has gotten you 4 trophies
already, happened to accepting
defeat? Or wasn't it the same tactic that got you to the semis?
Barca/Spain and Bayern/Germany's WC success synchronized with Pep's
reign, even you have to agree that there are some coincedences that
can't be kept quiet about.

Nothing initially at least till it looked like he was hell-bent on destroying my team. He has won what he was expected to win! 2 out of the 4 trophies were on the back of another man's sweat (Don Jupp). Pep's rubbish tactics had us struggling against rubbish teams like A$$nal and Man yoo. Even Barca at its lowest ebb beat Madrid twice so how could we have lost so scandalously if not for sabotage?

Pep deserves no credit for Germany's success. Is he the one that taught Götze the technique to score that goal or Schürrle to be such a beast off the bench or Neuer and Lahm to be the best at their positions or Hummels and Boa-TANK?

A40:
Nothing initially at least till it looked like he was hell-bent on destroying my team. He has won what he was expected to win! 2 out of the 4 trophies were on the back of another man's sweat (Don Jupp). Pep's rubbish tactics had us struggling against rubbish teams like A$$nal and Man yoo. Even Barca at its lowest ebb beat Madrid twice so how could we have lost so scandalously if not for sabotage?

Pep deserves no credit for Germany's success. Is he the one that taught Götze the technique to score that goal or Schürrle to be such a beast off the bench or Neuer and Lahm to be the best at their positions or Hummels and Boa-TANK?

A40, don't mind them,I knew this guyz were just beefing our success then when they were labeling us ... Now the table is turn and the got nothing to say here,

raumdeuter:

What difference does it make when you signed Sevilla Europa cup winners best player after going trophyless

At least you made sure Sevilla would never rise for the time being

Still off point. I still believe you know the drill but just keep going on a chain reaction. Even with Rakitic, Sevilla still won't compete for the league. Mourinho sold Juan mata to man utd when he knew they weren't a rival anymore last season. As far as league competition goes, it's just Bayern and maybe Dortmund in Germany, no thanks to your 50+ rule

Davidbanky:



I will like to correct ur line 8 sir, our champions league success, bayern/Germany synchronized jupp's reign, until guardiola gives us a champions league before we can synchronize his team with any German success ... Thank you

Pep was in charge of Barca when Spain won the WC and in charge of Bayern when Germany won it, that's what I mean. It's what it is though; a coincedence, I don't put much on it. It's just media frenzy

A40:
Nothing initially at least till it looked like he was hell-bent on destroying my team. He has won what he was expected to win! 2 out of the 4 trophies were on the back of another man's sweat (Don Jupp). Pep's rubbish tactics had us struggling against rubbish teams like A$$nal and Man yoo. Even Barca at its lowest ebb beat Madrid twice so how could we have lost so scandalously if not for sabotage?

Pep deserves no credit for Germany's success. Is he the one that taught Götze the technique to score that goal or Schürrle to be such a beast off the bench or Neuer and Lahm to be the best at their positions or Hummels and Boa-TANK?

I'm sure If Pep had gone on to win, your lines would've been different. Even Jupp's team struggled at home and almost crashed out against Arsenal, it's the beauty of the game. Your team's loss to Madrid simply showed that the best teams have weaknesses too, although it's embarrassing for the holding champions but Madrid had also beaten 3 previous German teams with scandalous scorelines en route to the final, so no sabotage anywhere

Does anyone remember that German kid with the platinium blonde hair, that 'spoilt brat' that was Merkel's blue-eyed boy? Well he's grown up and what a man he has turned out to be.Happy 30th birthday, Bastian Schweinsteiger

A40:
Chale don't get it twisted now wey the ginjah of that 7-1 don die down the Kroos bashing is in full effect! If you wan start anything i full ground. I have told you repeatedly the positions Kroos can play 'effectively' in and even described his playing style.

I have no care or concern for where or what he started his career as. For the first 4 games he was the most advanced midfielder in the lineup for the most part so whats new?

Nothing false about my assertion he was the best German player against Brazil but in every other game he was outshone by at least two German players

Well. Im not doing too well now so we'll just end it here. Maybe later, we can start again