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"What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:44pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
Question: "What does the Bible say about the virgin Mary?" Answer: Mary the mother of Jesus was described by God as "highly favoured" (Luke 1:28). The phrase "highly favoured" comes from a single Greek word, which essentially means "much grace." Mary received God’s grace. Grace is "unmerited favour," meaning something we receive despite the fact that we do not deserve it. Mary needed grace from God just as the rest of us do. Mary herself understood this fact, as she declared in Luke 1:47, “. . . and my spirit rejoices in God my Saviour. . .” Mary recognized that she needed the Saviour. The Bible never says that Mary was anyone but an ordinary human whom God chose to use in an extraordinary way. Yes, Mary was a righteous woman and favoured (graced) by God (Luke 1:27-28). At the same time, Mary was a sinful human being who needed Jesus Christ as her Saviour, just like everyone else (Ecclesiastes 7:20; Romans 3:23; 6:23; 1 John 1:8.) Mary did not have an "immaculate conception." The Bible doesn’t suggest Mary’s birth was anything but a normal human birth. Mary was a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus (Luke 1:34-38), but the idea of the perpetual virginity of Mary is unbiblical. Matthew 1:25, speaking of Joseph, declares, "But he had no union with her until she gave birth to a son. And he gave Him the name Jesus." The word "until" clearly indicates that Joseph and Mary did have sexual union after Jesus was born. Joseph and Mary had several children together after Jesus was born. Jesus had four half-brothers: James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas (Matthew 13:55). Jesus also had half-sisters, although they are not named or numbered (Matthew 13:55-56). God blessed and graced Mary by giving her several children, which in that culture was the clearest indication of God’s blessing on a woman. One time when Jesus was speaking, a woman in the crowd proclaimed, "Blessed is the womb that bore You and the breasts at which You nursed" (Luke 11:27). There was never a better opportunity for Jesus to declare that Mary was indeed worthy of praise and adoration. What was Jesus’ response? "On the contrary, blessed are those who hear the word of God and observe it" (Luke 11:28). To Jesus, obedience to God’s Word was more important than being the woman who gave birth to the Saviour. Nowhere in Scripture does Jesus, or anyone else, direct any praise, glory, or adoration towards Mary. Elizabeth, Mary’s relative, praised Mary in Luke 1:42-44, but her praise is based on the blessing of giving birth to the Messiah. It was not based on any inherent glory in Mary. Mary was present at the cross when Jesus died (John 19:25). Mary was also with the apostles on the day of Pentecost (Acts 1:14). However, Mary is never mentioned again after Acts chapter 1. The apostles did not give Mary a prominent role. Mary’s death is not recorded in the Bible. Nothing is said about Mary ascending to heaven or having an exalted role there. As the earthly mother of Jesus, Mary should be respected, but she is not worthy of our worship or adoration. The Bible nowhere indicates that Mary can hear our prayers or that she can mediate for us with God. Jesus is our only advocate and mediator in heaven (1 Timothy 2:5). If offered worship, adoration, or prayers, Mary would say the same as the angels: "Worship God!" (see Revelation 19:10; 22:9.) Mary herself sets the example for us, directing her worship, adoration, and praise to God alone: "My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Saviour, for He has been mindful of the humble state of His servant. From now on all generations will call me blessed, for the Mighty One has done great things for me — holy is His name" (Luke 1:46-49). Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/virgin-Mary.html#ixzz3CGQKef6b 113 Likes 20 Shares
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Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by Chibueze291994(m): 4:03pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
we only honour mary we do not worship her. Truly no one goes to the father except through christ, but some are also in a better position to pray for us that's where we talk about mediator. let's take a look at what happened in canaan. 101 Likes 9 Shares |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:15pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
Chibueze291994: What does the Bible say? "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" (1 Timothy 2:5). 193 Likes 10 Shares |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 7:48pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: I know you have a problem understanding English language. catholic says Mary intercede for them and u are missing it up with mediator. yes Christ is the only mediator between God and man. but Mary intercede,i.e plead on our behalf. dictionary meaning of mediator and intercede To intercede is to go or come between two parties, to plead before one of them on behalf of the other. "Mediation" means a standing in the midst between two (contending) parties, for the purpose of bringing them together. 105 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:23pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
nnatom: Do not be nescient. If you had read and understood the OP you would have realised the point given in the excerpt below: The Bible nowhere indicates that Mary can hear our prayers or that she can mediate for us with God. Jesus is our only advocate and mediator in heaven (1 Timothy 2:5). If offered worship, adoration, or prayers, Mary would say the same as the angels: "Worship God!" (see Revelation 19:10; 22:9.) Mary herself sets the example for us, directing her worship, adoration, and praise to God alone: "My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Saviour, for He has been mindful of the humble state of His servant. From now on all generations will call me blessed, for the Mighty One has done great things for me — holy is His name" (Luke 1:46-49). 61 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 8:48pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: u have made no point, the Op talks about mediate which I have shown u the meaning. this where Mary interceded in the bible, john 2:1-8 and this is also known as the first miracle of Christ. On the third day a wedding took place at Cana in Galilee. Jesus’ mother was there, and Jesus and his disciples had also been invited to the wedding. When the wine was gone, Jesus’ mother said to him, “They have no more wine.” “Woman, why do you involve me?” Jesus replied. “My hour has not yet come.” His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you.” Nearby stood six stone water jars, the kind used by the Jews for ceremonial washing, each holding from twenty to thirty gallons. Jesus said to the servants, “Fill the jars with water”; so they filled them to the brim. Then he told them, “Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet.” I repeat Mary do not mediate she intercede pls don't miss the words. that part of Luke u quoted she also said " Henceforth, all generations shall call me blessed. 90 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:05pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
nnatom: Even though Jesus did what Mary said but this was not after He had somewhat rebuked her by saying that His mission was not to do temporary ephemeral things but to save His people from their sins. Apart from this place, Mary is never shown in Scripture to demand or request anything from Jesus again. 55 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 9:24pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: this is too lame, my bro u still have not made any clear point. well u have made up ur mind not to honour her,my bro it's ur headache o, but for me I will honour her and be glad like Elizabeth that said in Luke 1:39-45 New International Version (NIV) Mary Visits Elizabeth At that time Mary got ready and hurried to a town in the hill country of Judea, where she entered Zechariah’s home and greeted Elizabeth. When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. In a loud voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. Blessed is she who has believed that the Lord would fulfill his promises to her!” Note this Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. In a loud voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? and I say why am I so favored to love and cherish the mother of my lord. oh thank you JESUS. 116 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by jansie(f): 10:21pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
^^^ Your innocence is just making me to laugh. in what ways are you honoring mary if i may ask? 26 Likes |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 11:10pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
jansie: ^^^ funny one though. we honour her by loving and accepting her as the mother of our lord Jesus Christ and not as a mere vessel like many protestant will say. for more read this. Why do Catholics Honor & Love Mary ? A1. She brought the Savior into the World. Mary said Yes! In Luke 1:26-35 The Angel Gabriel appeared to the young Mary and said that she would conceive a child and he will be called “The Son of the Most High.” Now Mary has free will, like all of us, she could have said no. She could have said find someone else, but what did she say? In Luke 1:38 Mary answered “Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord; let it be to me according to your word.” By her consent, by her free will Mary united her will to the will of the Father and brought the salvation of the human race into the world in the person of Jesus Christ. Think about it, without Jesus Christ there would be no salvation for mankind. Mary carried the God-Man, the creator of time and space himself in her womb. She agreed to provide him with flesh and blood, carried him for 9 months and nurtured him throughout his life. A2. “Hail, full of Grace, the Lord is with you!” When the Angel Gabriel came to Mary she was greeted with a royal greeting. Luke 1:28 recounts Gabriel greeting Mary by proclaiming “Hail, full of Grace, the Lord is with you!” The Greek word for Hail that is used here is a word that is used to address royalty. Think of it, an Angel, a being far superior to a human, greeting a young girl with such respect and awe; in other cases when an angel approaches a human this is not the case. This would imply that Mary is no normal human being; God created her and prepared her to carry his son, to be a living tabernacle of the Lord. “Full of Grace”, this is said by Gabriel to Mary in Luke 1:38 before she even said yes to be the Mother of God. This would imply that she was full of Grace (God’s own life and love) even before she had Jesus in her womb. Like the pure and untouchable Ark of the Covenant in the Old Testament that held symbols of God, Mary was made pure and full of grace in order to hold the Word of God made flesh, Jesus Christ Mary was even given the grace she needed for the encounter with the Angel Gabriel. In Revelation 19 and 22 when an Angel appears to John, he is confused and mistakes him for God and begins to worship him. When Gabriel appears to Mary in Luke 1 something very different happens. Mary has the grace to recognize that this Angel isn’t God and Gabriel acknowledges that Mary isn’t just some ordinary girl but a girl that has been prepared by God from her conception to be the Mother of the God-Man, Jesus Christ. A3. “Blessed among women” After the Angel Gabriel left Mary she went to see her cousin Elizabeth who in her old age was pregnant with John the Baptist. In Luke 1:41 after Mary greeted Elizabeth, Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit and John the Baptist leaped in her womb in joy at the sound of Mary’s voice. The Holy Spirit talking through Elizabeth said to Mary “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb!” Wow, the third person of the blessed Trinity inspired Elizabeth to deem Mary blessed amongst all women; Mary isn’t just some ordinary woman. These words of the Holy Spirit talking through Elizabeth make up the middle of the Hail Mary “blessed are you amongst women and blessed is the fruit of they womb, Jesus” A4. She is the Mother of the Lord Jesus wasn’t created, as the Nicene Creed proclaims “He was begotten, not made, one in being with the Father, through him all things were made.” So how is Mary, a creation of God, the mother of God? This answer is intertwined with the mystery of the Trinity and the Incarnation. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are of the same substance but are unique. The 2nd person of the trinity, Jesus Christ, entered time and space and took on Mary’s flesh in the incarnation; when this happened Mary became the mother of Jesus. Since Mary is the mother of Jesus that makes her the mother of God. Mary is not the mother of the trinity, she did not exist before the trinity; she is the mother of the 2nd person of the trinity in the flesh, Jesus Christ. Many protestant Christians today say that Mary was not the mother of God but just the mother of Jesus. If Mary is not the mother of God but just the mother of Jesus then this assumes that Jesus is not God. This ideology reapeats a 1600 year old heresy that was disputed and resolved at the Council of Ephesus in 431AD. The heretic Nestorius claimed that Jesus Christ wasn’t divine and that Mary should be called the Christotokos (Christ bearer) instead of the Theotokos (God-bearer) since Jesus isn’t God. The Church at this council reaffirmed that Jesus is divine and since he is divine that makes Mary the Mother of God so rightfully so she was to be called the Theotokos, God- bearer. A5. My soul magnifies the Lord, my spirit rejoices in God my Savior” After Elizabeth declares that Mary is blessed amongst women, Mary sings what is known as the Canticle of Mary (Luke 1:46-55). In verse 46 Mary sings that her soul magnifies the Lord. Think about that. The beauty and purity of Mary’s soul magnifies or intensifies the presence of the Lord. It has been said that Jesus is like the sun; the source of light and Mary is like the moon, reflecting that light of God. Mary is not just a vessel that held Christ, Mary’s body and soul was created particularly by God to be a living tabernacle of the Word of God, Jesus Christ. To say that Mary was just a mere vessel is undermining that majesty of God by undermining the greatness of his creation. Mary then says in verse 47 that her “spirit rejoices in God my savior” Mary is rejoicing in God because he has created her and destined her to the Mother of his Son. God has granted Mary particular graces that no other human has….the graces needed to be the Mother of God. The Catholic’s honor and love for Mary reflects the deep love of God who made her who she is. A6. The Blessed Mother In Luke 1:48 Mary proclaims that “All generations will call me blessed..” God created Mary as such a pure, graced filled creation that from then on until all eternity she will be called blessed. This is where Catholics get the title of “The Blessed Mother”; it’s straight out of the Bible. A7. She is the Mother of Humanity Mary was chosen to be the mother of Jesus but she is also our Mother. In John 19:26-27 when Jesus is on the Cross he looks at his mother and says “Woman, behold your son!” and then he looks at John and says “Behold, your mother!” Since early in the history of the Church this has been interpreted as Jesus extending Mary’s motherhood to all of humanity. This can be better understood in relation to the Father and the Son. God the Father has one son, Jesus Christ, but by extension of our baptism Jesus’ son ship is extended to all Christians so we truly become sons and daughters of God. In a similar yet different situation by Jesus’ words on the cross Mary’s Motherhood is extended to all of us. Although Mary is human and the Father is divine we have a mother in heaven who loves and prays for us. A8. She suffered with Christ Mary suffered with Jesus as only a mother could when seeing her child being mocked, humiliated, beaten and put to death in the most demeaning form of the day. Mary’s suffering was foreshadowed by Simeon when he said to her after she presented the baby Jesus in the temple “Behold, this child is destined for the fall and rise of many in Israel, and to be a sign that will be contradicted (and you yourself a sword will pierce) so that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.” (Luke 1:34-35). Mary is considered a co-redeemer with Christ due to the most personal role she played in salvation history by saying yes to taking on the role of the Mother of God and accepting all the joy and suffering which came with that. In fact every baptized Christian is called to offer up their suffering with that of Christ for the salvation of souls. Paul supports this in Colossians 1:24 where he writes “Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I am filling up what is lacking in the afflictions of Christ on behalf of his body, which is the church.” Since we are members of the Body of Christ we share in the life and mission of Christ. Mary has a particularly important share in this due to her unique and intimate role as the Mother of God. blessedjp2.com/totus-tuus/why-do-catholics-honor-love-mary/ 157 Likes 11 Shares |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:18am On Sep 04, 2014 |
"My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Saviour, for He has been mindful of the humble state of His servant. From now on all generations will call me blessed, for the Mighty One has done great things for me — holy is His name" (Luke 1:46-49). This is the prayer Mary prayed. She said God my Saviour, meaning that she was a sinner saved by God. Do you see why we are not to worship her? 32 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by Weah96: 1:22am On Sep 04, 2014 |
The OT, which coincides with the Jewish Torah, says absolutely nothing about any virgin giving birth to their messiah. Show me a verse in Jewish scriptures, or the old testament, where Yahweh promised to send himself as messiah. Or where the messiah would be born of a virgin. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 1:27am On Sep 04, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: "My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Saviour, for He has been mindful of the humble state of His servant. From now on all generations will call me blessed, for the Mighty One has done great things for me — holy is His name" (Luke 1:46-49). it is so shameful of u still saying Catholics worship her after u have been told several time that Catholics don't worship her, sorry o is ur IQ dis low. so if u are being told that God will allow his son to have the flesh and blood of a sinner u will agree. see where lack of knowledge is dragging u into. even Muslims knows that Mary was born without the touch of satan. shame on u. Mention in Islamic scripture The birth of Mary is narrated in the Quran with references to her father, after whom the chapter is named ('The Family of Imran') as well as her mother. The wife of Imran prayed to God to fulfil her desire [8] and vowed, if her prayer was accepted, that her child would be dedicated to the service of God. She prayed for her child to remain protected from Satan ( Shayṭān) and Muslim tradition records a hadith , which states that the only children born without the "touch of Satan," were Mary and Jesus. 67 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 1:48am On Sep 04, 2014 |
Weah96: The OT, which coincides with the Jewish Torah, says absolutely nothing about any virgin giving birth to their messiah. Show me a verse in Jewish scriptures, or the old testament, where Yahweh promised to send himself as messiah. Or where the messiah would be born of a virgin. Note, the bible is not a story book. and messages are not passed like your reader Edet lives in calabar. King David is the man after God's heart and God made a promise to him. CHRONICLE 17:11-14 11 And it shall come to pass, when thy days be expired that thou must go to be with thy fathers, that I will raise up thy seed after thee, which shall be of thy sons; and I will establish his kingdom. 12 He shall build me an house, and I will stablish his throne for ever. 13 I will be his father, and he shall be my son: and I will not take my mercy away from him, as I took it from him that was before thee: 14 But I will settle him in mine house and in my kingdom for ever: and his throne shall be established for evermore. and this God fulfilled by sending Jesus whoes lineage could be traced back to David through Mary. for more information go to this thread www.nairaland.com/1581928/lineage-jesus-mary-not-joseph 13 Likes |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:49am On Sep 04, 2014 |
nnatom: So you have now run out of bible references that you now resort to quoting from the qu'ran and the hadith. I also realised that the Qu'ran gives honour to Mary by naming a chapter after her. I don't think any other female was accorded that honour in the Qu'ran and I'm not sure you will find the word Mercy therein. ![]() 17 Likes |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 1:58am On Sep 04, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: it's to show u how shameful it is for u a christain, calling her a sinner. shame on you 54 Likes |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:02am On Sep 04, 2014 |
nnatom: At least they are witty enough not to worship and bow down to Mary's image. 19 Likes |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 2:08am On Sep 04, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: u dat bow down and prostrate for ur Oba means u worship them abi. bros u funny o. 64 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by Weah96: 4:33am On Sep 04, 2014 |
nnatom: You're confused, just like the authors of Matthew and Luke. http://www.sullivan-county.com/identity/gen_jesus.htm 1 Like |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 8:21am On Sep 04, 2014 |
Weah96: ohh, now I know u are high of something 12 Likes |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by Nobody: 8:23am On Sep 04, 2014 |
pls i want you to answer this question.don't get angry.was mary a sinner like us that needed to be forgiven or she was sinless like Jesus. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by ichuka(m): 8:35am On Sep 04, 2014 |
Dux01: pls i want you to answer this question.don't get angry.was mary a sinner like us that needed to be forgiven or she was sinless like Jesus.and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior..Luke 1:47. If She's sinless why would she need a Savior? 17 Likes |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 9:07am On Sep 04, 2014 |
Dux01: pls i want you to answer this question.don't get angry.was mary a sinner like us that needed to be forgiven or she was sinless like Jesus. is it possible for a dirty tank to hold a clean water and you still fetch the water out of in a clean state. I think this will I answer that question. 45 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by Nobody: 9:27am On Sep 04, 2014 |
nnatom:so she did not commit sin AT ALL After she gave birth 4 Likes |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by Ukutsgp(m): 10:45am On Sep 04, 2014 |
nnatom:jesus was sinless because his conception wasn't through sexual intercourse. d bible said all have sinned including mary hence need a saviour. 17 Likes |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by djcrooky(m): 11:28am On Sep 04, 2014 |
1. Remember when God asked that a copper snake be made and who ever looks to it shall be healed.. Isn't that "idolatary" 2. Idolatry is a thing of the heart its not just physical, the picture you have of your dad is an image, the bible said make no image of anything on earth or in heaven. 3. You bow to you kings and elders!! In your heart, are you respecting, honoring, referencing or worshiping. 4. When someone performs an act and you are confused, they tell you what they meant by their act and you say NO, I thought twas only God that knows the heart. 5. If you can sit and reading the story of mary about to get married then get pregnant claiming twas the holyspirit. Who wasn't so popular then, imagine the same and pain yet she never asked God to take the child away, 9 months old pregnancy was used to travel on a donkey for a census where she had to give birth in a stable, you might understand the need for the reverence. 6.the claim for brothers, you might site a part where someone said is that not jesus, the carpenters son, brother of james... IBO claim to be a migrated tribe of the Israelis, in ibo language there is no word for cousin or nephew, every one is called nwanne- brother/sister.. History tells us that joseph was far older than mary and had a wife before her, yes the bible is a story bok of man relationship with God given to the protestants by the catholic church.. This book has been translated severally before getting to english, meaning may have the lost. Do is know what changing is to was can do to a sentence? Christianity is of the heart, if you can love God and your neighbor as christ has loved you would do harm to no one and that's good enough... Stop trying to fault other denomination when yours also have loop holes, 46 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 1:11pm On Sep 04, 2014 |
Dux01: so she did not commit sin AT ALL After she gave birth can u proof dat she committed sin after she gave birth. can u. if u can't stop arguing blindly ok. 16 Likes |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 1:14pm On Sep 04, 2014 |
Ukutsgp: jesus was sinless because his conception wasn't through sexual intercourse. d bible said all have sinned including mary hence need a saviour. so are u saying a sinner carried Christ for nine month in an unclean body. use ur head bro. 12 Likes |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by Ukutsgp(m): 2:55pm On Sep 04, 2014 |
nnatom:are u saying it is nt possible? 3 Likes |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by Nobody: 3:49pm On Sep 04, 2014 |
nnatom:any person born of a union between a man and a woman has commited sin. 6 Likes |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 7:18pm On Sep 04, 2014 |
Ukutsgp: are u saying it is nt possible? is it possible to you 1 Like |
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