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Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 7:35am On Oct 02, 2014 |
[quote author=Kenyan28] It does not matter what I have said in the past, healed, faulty kit, temporary healing etc. It does matter maam...it does.ifnwe can't believe what you said then, why should we now? I am here today the 2nd day of October 2014 to tell the truth that I WAS NEVER HEALED. You were here few years back with a date and telling us another truth that you were healed, you even sang a song and said Jesus same yesterday, today and forever, you would still have if you retained your miracle, no? Gombs, If I ever felt/convinced that there was healing in CE,that I was healed and may be lost it, I WOULD HAVE FLOWN BACK TO THE HEALING SCHOOL to get it back, a flight to SA is a very small fraction of my current salary You were convinced you were healed, but when the symptoms came back, rather than seek solutions, you came here and some folks who were aiding to deny your healing Were present to take you the other way. If you can fly to SA, why didn't you then? Ah! You had to warn the world HS was a scam first. Fine, now we are here, HS just concluded in Canada, Pastor Chris is still doing 'scams' and yiu are still typing your stories. You see how you conveniently dodged my question? ...but not after I have witnessed several people who attended the healing school before and after me die of the same ailments!! Your opinion! Thanks so much for your time. It was a great pleasure. Say me hi to your daughter, and I pray you find God and his healing by faith in the strangest of ways. Amen |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by SirJohn(m): 7:35am On Oct 02, 2014 |
Gombs: kid, quit trying to play smart and answer my question, since you've analyzed her story so well then please tell the world at what point you think she lost her healing.. the burden of proof is on you 6 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Kenyan28: 7:44am On Oct 02, 2014 |
Gombs: I WOULDN'T TAKE AN OATH ABOUT SPIRITS COZ WE HAVE NOT EXCLUDED ALL SPIRITS, EVILS ARE SPIRITS as well. Indeed, there is a lot of idol worshiping in ALL CE churches that I have attended. What do u say of a pastor who stands in the pulpit and instead of telling the congregation what the bible says, he preaches and says "man of God Pr Chris says...." However, I would take an oath between God and I confidently, without an iota of doubt, that THERE IS NO HEALING in HS. 4 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Kenyan28: 7:51am On Oct 02, 2014 |
Were present to take you the other way. If you can fly to SA, why didn't you then? I DIDNT FLY COZ THERE IS NO HEALING IN HE. In my Whatsapp chat with your mate @Joag, he wanted me to come to Nigeria for him to pray for me. I told him not unless he fully sponsors the trip, I cant waste my money on something that I know will never yield. I will visit Nija someday to explore that part of West Africa though. 2 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by PastorKun(m): 8:45am On Oct 02, 2014 |
Kenyan28: Were present to take you the other way. If you can fly to SA, why didn't you then? Small time joagbaje would come here and start bragging he flew to Tanzania to pray for an ebola victim at his own cost without collecting a kobo from the victim. @Joagbaje This is a good opportunity to demonstrate your benevolence, either travel to Kenya to prayer for her or sponsor her trip to Nigeria for the healing. 7 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by SirJohn(m): 8:49am On Oct 02, 2014 |
@Gombs, please tell the world at what point you think Kenyan28 lost her healing... 4 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 8:58am On Oct 02, 2014 |
SirJohn: @Gombs, Granny, you haven't answered from my post whether it was possible to loose one's healing as Jesus pointed out. An honest answer would set my answer to your question in motion. Now, it's you and I discussing, I'd be glad to discuss with you too. I'm done with Kenyan, now I've time for you. Thanks alot for being patient all through my interview with Kenyan, you are indeed a gentle man. |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by SirJohn(m): 9:08am On Oct 02, 2014 |
Gombs: Thanks for the compliment, now its your turn to be a gentleman I asked you a question, answer my question first then I'll answer yours. Its okay if you don't have the answer to the question, just get off your high horse and simply say "I don't know" period 6 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by WinsomeX: 9:14am On Oct 02, 2014 |
Gombs, please answer my questions too o. WinsomeX: Gombs, 3 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by vooks: 9:47am On Oct 02, 2014 |
Gombs, Jesus said something WORSE not the SAME illness will come back. This is an extremely dumb interpretation to justify 'lost healings' Gombs: 4 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Kenyan28: 9:51am On Oct 02, 2014 |
SirJohn: 1 Like |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by vooks: 9:53am On Oct 02, 2014 |
@Kenyan28, There are standard excuse for no healing 1. The miracle seeker never had 'enough' faith to command healing virtue from the hem of Jesus garment 2. The miracle seeker is a sinner Of course you were 'confessing' healing as instructed to at the healing School despite anything suggesting that you were not healed. You were probably discouraged from performing further HIV tests since further tests are 'lack of faith' When a further HIV test (on your baby) became inevitable, you discovered you still had the virus That your husband turned negative proves that he never reinfected you with the virus after your supposed 'healing' Don't put it beyond Christ Embassy hooligans to claim that you got reinfected after your 'healing' Kenyan28: 5 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Kenyan28: 10:01am On Oct 02, 2014 |
vooks: @Kenyan28, You couldnt be more right. And to add more, when I discovered that I still had the virus, they(CE) called it a "counter attack" its amazing they have ready made names for all situations . "Counter attack" is what doctors blatantly call "denial" 4 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by vooks: 10:10am On Oct 02, 2014 |
There is another mbaemeka guy Says that he will never fall sick, that Just as Christ took away our sins yet we still fall into occasional sin, a Christian may fall sick. Challenged since death still persists despite Christ sacrifice, he insists that death is an 'enemy' and that Jesus has keys of death and hades so he will seek mbaemeka's consent before taking him home. So, if you will never be sick yet you can get sick, you are saying nothing. You have absolutely NOTHING on a cussing atheist when it comes to health or prosperity. Those things are just dangled at gullible Christians to rip them off Fact of the matter is in this fallen world, Christians will succumb to poverty,disease and death just as the next pagan Please take your time and read this thread https://www.nairaland.com/1790500/word-faith-movements-doctrine-proponents Very rich ubarikiwe dada Kenyan28: 4 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Kenyan28: 10:13am On Oct 02, 2014 |
vooks: There is another mbaemeka guy Nimepokea baraka tele, asante ndugu. 3 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by vooks: 10:20am On Oct 02, 2014 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdr3U6TnchU Just for you, Mercelina Kenyan28: 2 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by vooks: 10:22am On Oct 02, 2014 |
Would you be kind enough to share with me the relevant thread where @Joagbaje prayed for and healed an Ebola victim in Tanzania? There is nothing like Ebola in Tanzania PastorKun: 4 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 10:25am On Oct 02, 2014 |
SirJohn: Ok, I would assume you know the answer, which is yes, one can loose it, and for various reasons. Consider pulpit commentary for John 5:14 John 5:14 that said, i have no detail of her personal life, her number one reason for loosing the healing is not far fetched from the above, eg what was her life like with her fiance before marriage? alot could be, only she can say, it's between her and God. but it is certain one can loose their healing. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Joagbaje(m): 10:27am On Oct 02, 2014 |
PastorKun: If I collect money you will complain, if I don't , you will complain @Joagbaje Why don't you sponsor her ? Why should I waste money on someone who doesn't believe . I preach the gospel , and signs and wonders accompany it . I don't need to prove anything to a mocker . I presented an HIV case that was healed here . I dare all of you to investigate it . Go to the federal medical centre . And expose my lie . I somehow think you guys knows I'm right but pride will not allow you to admit . If not somebody should have investigated this testimony . 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by WinsomeX: 10:30am On Oct 02, 2014 |
vooks: Gombs, Thank you o jare, vooks. He asks a question that he feels is unanswerable, while at the same time fleeing other people's questions. There you have it. "Something worse" does not mean relapse. No disease Jesus healed ever relapsed. 2 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 10:37am On Oct 02, 2014 |
WinsomeX: Gombs, please answer my questions too o. wait your turn buddy 2 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 10:43am On Oct 02, 2014 |
vooks: Gombs, sir, from John 5:14, what could have been worse than 38years of illness? 76years? come on bro! is she not worse than she was? now, join the queue, wait your turn 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Kenyan28: 10:44am On Oct 02, 2014 |
Joagbaje: |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by WinsomeX: 10:49am On Oct 02, 2014 |
Gombs, Where in that whole commentary did the author say or imply "relapse". Granted they said that the healing was imperfect as you outlined in blue: Commentary: But this imperfect must be seen in the light of further explanation as the one below: Commentary: "Imperfect" must therefore be seen as the possibility of something worse happening and not a relapse. Or else the author is claiming, Christ, and God, cannot carry out a perfect miracle or are imperfect. If this is the opinion of the author, we have all the right to discard the whole commentary as another opinion of fallible men. 2 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 11:03am On Oct 02, 2014 |
WinsomeX: Gombs, Where in that whole commentary did the author say or imply "relapse". wait your turn buddy! your biasness is resounding though. Now it is relapse shey? no longer loss of healing. no wonder you folks don't want to answer whether it is possible to loose one's healing. see how they are clinging to "Jesus said something worse than, He did not mean relapse/same illness". buncha funny fellas , as for the above, point where the author remotely suggested that. Compare what you said with what the author wrote The healing was, at least, imperfect [size=25pt]until [/size]the man had learned its spiritual significance. Every gift of God is doubled in value when its source is recognized. God's signature on his own mercies gives them their true meaning. that is why they teach folks in the healing school...the spiritual significance of their healing and retaining it because the devil would come question your faith about it 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Larow(m): 11:13am On Oct 02, 2014 |
SirJohn:Mr John! What are you really trying to tell us? That miracles aint real or its very hard to easily experience miracles? I watched a particular love broadcast of the same pastor chris where he prayed for two people both on wheelchairs and one got his healing and the other didn't. You seen to sound like a critic who only look forward to seeing the wrong things and making loud noise over it. The difference between the two people I mentioned earlier all boils down to their heart and FAITH. During anointing services, no matter how anointed the man of God is, I have never fallen under the anointing before all because my mindset toward that is so rigid that I don't want to fall and I won't fall. Does that now make the man of God a liar or those that are falling under the anointing pretenders? Its a pity you've being under this man's ministration for quite a while but even the simplest faith, you don't have let alone understanding the meaning!what do you know? You better curtail your intention! 3 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 11:21am On Oct 02, 2014 |
Fellas gotta go now, reports for the 3rd quarter aint gonna prepare themselves, I'd need 2hours break, further questions and opinions can be dropped here. Thanks, would attend to them whenever I'm back. Bros Candour, I see you! Good morning, I hope you and fam folks are well? |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by WinsomeX: 11:23am On Oct 02, 2014 |
If the author of that commentary means what you want us to believe, then you and your commentator are in error. And you can be because you are human and fallible. The contention until you brought up the commentary on John 5 was whether a healing can be lost. You provided that scripture and the commentary to prove your point that healing can be lost or in other words, there can be a relapse of the illness. My point, along with others, is that John 5 where Jesus said something worse does not mean a loss of healing or a relapse. Something worse means some other worse thing, other than that illness, can befall the individual. This points must be properly thrashed out because you are looking for a lame excuse for why Chris failed to heal the Kenyan. This was the same idiotic excuse Joagbaje brought forth when she first came saying she was not healed. Now, even if for a second we accept that the Kenyan lost her healing to sin; what about all the others, many of whom are dead now? They also returned to their sins? You guys are pathetic! Gombs: 4 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Kenyan28: 11:33am On Oct 02, 2014 |
WinsomeX: If the author of that commentary means what you want us to believe, then you and your commentator are in error. And you can be because you are human and fallible. Pathetic is an understatement. 3 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Candour(m): 11:35am On Oct 02, 2014 |
Gombs: Fellas gotta go now, reports for the 3rd quarter aint gonna prepare themselves, I'd need 2hours break, further questions and opinions can be dropped here. Thanks, would attend to them whenever I'm back. Can you imagine There goes my confidence of being in ghost mode and couldn't be seen I'm fine by the way and the family is doing great too. Trust you're good? Meanwhile, focus on the trial balance properly o. We don't want to hear of another bank crash because of faulty balance sheet reportage. My friend Gombs the lawyer Cheers 4 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by mbaemeka(m): 12:12pm On Oct 02, 2014 |
Vooks or BabaGnoni or whatever he calls himself these days should stop mentioning me in his posts. If he wants my attention he should follow the right means and I just might oblige him. It is not my fault that he thinks Eve slept with a serpent or that medical science has replaced the name of Jesus to the church. It is also not my fault that he doesn't understand God's word and interacting with me has exposed him thus far. He should stop using underhand tactics to force me to teach him. If he just asks politely I might teach him. Good going bro Gombs. Been reading in 3D! |
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by PastorKun(m): 12:29pm On Oct 02, 2014 |
vooks: Would you be kind enough to share with me the relevant thread where @Joagbaje prayed for and healed an Ebola victim in Tanzania? The thread was deleted by nairaland Admin because of the fraudulent and misleading claims made in it. 5 Likes |
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