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Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by searay(m): 7:26am On Oct 05, 2014 |
khadysaggs:I think the blood of Jesus cancel the blood of those animals. 1 Like |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by bola4dprec(m): 7:26am On Oct 05, 2014 |
Mynd44:It is clearly stated in the Quran “The food of the People of the Book (Christian or Jew) is lawful unto you and yours is lawful unto them. ” Sura 5 - Al-Maeda (MADINA) : Verse 5 It is clear from Sura Al-Maeda that eating meat from a Christian or Jewish butcher is lawful ( Halal ). However for this to be lawful the Christian or Jewish butcher must be a practising Christian or Jew. Now in the case of Jews this is very easy. As long as the Jew is a practising Jew and the meat is slaughtered in accordance with Jewish law ( Torat Moshe) then this meat and other Kosher food is lawful ( Halal) and can be eaten by Muslims. |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by sleekpro(m): 7:27am On Oct 05, 2014 |
michaelwestern: No its not a sin, its pure longer truot! |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by Kentox(m): 7:29am On Oct 05, 2014 |
galadima77: ileya meat is different from any meat slaughter by muslims. It's a sacrifice. As a born again child of God, eating of the meat will pollute your spirit. Even if you have to eat because of hunger, sanctify it well. 1 Like |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by tbaba1234: 7:32am On Oct 05, 2014 |
Kentox: All meat slaughtered by muslims is slaughtered in the EXACT same way as ileya meat... You can give up meat altogether. 4 Likes |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by NextProdigy(m): 7:32am On Oct 05, 2014 |
Whether you're a Christian or not, it is your CHOICE. If you choose to eat, EAT; if you choose not to eat, DON'T EAT. Let us learn to live together peacefully regardless of our different beliefs. May God Almighty have mercy on us all. Happy Eid-Mubarak to all my Muslim family around the world. 2 Likes |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by Nobody: 7:32am On Oct 05, 2014 |
I think the problem of intolerance started having an heavy toll on Nigerians when the Muslims started killing for the god and never considered the sensibilities oof other religions...both christianity and traditional religion,for christ sakes,Nigeria is a secular country! Now to the issue of ileya meat,I don't think I would willingly eat sallah meat anymore because I fear and despise muslims because of their propensity to kill and be very violent about their beliefs. I used to eat ileya meat a lot in the past but I don't think I would want to eat it any longer because that would be tantamount to hypocrisy,I mean just look at the problems muslims are causing all over the world! Scripturally though,I don't think there is any injunction not to eat sallah meat.Its just that any sane christian would be dead to conscience to eat such sallah meat considering how the islamic adherents are killing mankind all over the World.Peace. 1 Like |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by F117A: 7:34am On Oct 05, 2014 |
Midastorch:You are the one with the poor knowledge of the bible. The hebrew boys rejected the babylonian meats because it was already sacrificed to idols and symbolized babylonian depravity,which was why they found favour with God. Jesus in the book of relevations warned some churches for the gravious sin of defiling themselves with strange meats. And no,ileya celebration as well as christmas is not biblical. God did not ask abraham to keep celebrating it. The Ulimate sacrifice was the death of jesus on the cross,which is what we should celebrate in our lives everyday. You can keep eating though,i ain't stopping you. Btw, oritsejafor and co are not your standards. |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by F117A: 7:39am On Oct 05, 2014 |
The celebration of ileya is tantamount to spitting on the sacrifice of our lord jesus christ. The muslims don't believe in his sacrifice anyway,so christians should be very careful. |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by domack99(m): 7:39am On Oct 05, 2014 |
Meenh this is serious, lots of haters here and there, I notice most poster that refuse to eat Sallah meat are mostly newly registered members and most likely are new generations of Nigeria. All I can say is that we are doomed in this God forsaking country. The older generation of this country has failed, Christian and Muslim use to live in harmony but seems the old generation has failed to teach the newer ones the good way of life. What I see that is lacking here is reading habit, funny enough the world is more global than before, where you have mobile library and e-consultant on the go, we can easily consult google, Wikipedia and the like for quick answer but to my surprise we are more ignorant than ever before. Imagine Christians bluntly saying on this thread that Muslim worship idol, when there are several debate you can see on youtube among the scholars of the two religion, there you will see similarities and differences in the two religion. Our pastors are not trying at all and the parents are not helping matter, we can not leave this world alone, we need to learn to co-exist with one another. As some poster has mentioned and quoted earlier, it is clearly stated in the Quran that meat from Jew and Christians are allowed for Muslims, Christianity on the other hands seems not to have a definite backing for why Sallah meat should not be eating as there have been counter quoting to support and against our desire. 5 Likes |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by Misogynist2014(m): 7:39am On Oct 05, 2014 |
Ibnsultan:ållah was one of the several gods worshipped in Arabia, in Muhammad's time, he was the chief god. 1.There is absolutely no question that Allah was worshipped by the pagan Arabs as one of many polytheistic gods. 2.Allah was worshipped in the Kabah at Mecca before Muhammad was born. Muhammad merely proclaimed a god the Meccans were already familiar with. The pagan Arabs never accused Muhammad of preaching a different Allah than the one they already worshipped. 3.Many scholars say "Allah" is derived from a compound Arabic word, AL + ILAH = Allah. "Ilah" in Arabic is "God" and "Al" in Arabic is a definite article like our word "the". So from an English equivalent "Allah" comes from "The + God". Others, like Arthur Jeffery say, "The common theory is that it is formed from ilah, the common word for a god, and the article al-; thus al-ilah, the god," becomes Allah, "God." This theory, however, is untenable. In fact, the name is one of the words borrowed into the language in pre-Islamic times from Aramaic." ( Islam: Muhammad and His Religion, Arthur Jeffery, 1958, p 85) 4.Although "Allah" has become known as the proper name for the Muslim god, Allah is not a name, but a descriptor that means literally, "the god". All pagan cultures have these generic terms that refer to their "top god" as "the god". In comparison to the perfect monotheism of Judaism and Christianity, "Allah" was originally no more a proper name for the Muslim God, than the word Hebrew "elohim" (god) or Greek "theos" (god) are proper names of the one true God of the Bible. "Jehovah" is the only revealed proper name for the "Elohim" of the Old Testament ( Ex 3:13; 6:3) and "Jesus" is the only revealed proper name of "Theos" in the New Testament. (Acts 4:12) Islam has no proper name for their god, but merely transformed, by universal use and confusion, the generic Allah into a proper name. So although today, Muslims use "Allah" as a proper name, it was never used this way originally. Allah, therefore is equivalent to "elohim" and "ho theos" but not "Jehovah" or "Jesus". Allah is not the name of the nameless Muslim God. However Muslims will claim that Allah is the name of God that corresponds to Jehovah. Both the Father and the Son are called "ho theos" (The God). Jesus is called "The God" many times in the New Testament: John 20:28; Heb 1:8. An important conclusion from this, is that the mere fact that "Allah" is equivalent to "elohim" and "ho theos" does not mean they are directly corresponded. It certainly doesn’t prove Allah is the same as the God of the Old or New Testament. It does not prove that Muslim’s worship the same God as Christians. If this correspondence proved the Muslim god was the same as the Christian God, then because pagan religions also have generics that correspond to "the god" (Allah), this correspondence would also prove that Allah is the same god as the Buddhist god, for Buddhists also refer to their god as "the god". http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Islamic%20Muslim/allah_is_a_fraud.htm 2 Likes |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by Midastorch(m): 7:42am On Oct 05, 2014 |
CANTICLES: For your information, God never intended to use Isaac for the sacrifice, he just wanted to test Abraham's faith.someone that has only one child and you asked him to come and sacrifice the child? The biggest of today's pastors will say "I bind you Satan".Saying slaughtering ram is to the idols?? You guys should refuse your teachers (pastors) to be teaching you heresy.in the old testament, God receives burnt offering of animals (rams or sheep to be precise) which are sweet smelling savour unto him and he blesses whoever served it unto him.but as Christians, because he has given us his own Lamb (Christ Jesus) there is no need for us to sacrifice any animal again.all we need is to go to his presence in the name of Jesus. Talking about Christmas, christmas is more idolatry than the sallah we are talking about because its the old Roman empire that replaces a festive period of worshiping the a god of sun "Mars" with the birth of Christ. 1 Like |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by Nobody: 7:43am On Oct 05, 2014 |
Kayraph: Good question. As muslims, we only eat the food of three people, muslims, christians and jews. Food from other people a forbidden. Muslims we believe in Jesus alaihi wa salam, we believe in his miraculous birth and in his message, we also believed that God saved him from from the jews by taking him up to himself and we believed in the second comming of jesus. You may not agree that Jesus didnt die, but we belive he didnt. That is why we don‘t take part in the celebration as you are celebrating what is against how faith. If a christin for example say “I would not celebrate with you because i believe it was isaac that was to be sacrificed and you believe it was ismael. If i aam celebrating with you it is as if i am agreeing with your believe and denying my bible.“ i would not hold it against him and i would understand. But lying that Allah is not God while he is sing “na go de Allah“. Is what i am against. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by F117A: 7:48am On Oct 05, 2014 |
domack99:We must please God as ruler, rather than men. |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by Midastorch(m): 7:49am On Oct 05, 2014 |
rattlesnake: Omg!!!!! God will so bless you and your generations unborn. 2 Likes |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by hero10(m): 7:49am On Oct 05, 2014 |
Am happy some Christians understand what is in their Bible, some are just reading it for reading sake.. The meat is not even enough for we Muslims |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by micynute94(m): 7:52am On Oct 05, 2014 |
As much as i had like debating this ileya stuff. Some ppl will just never change or listen to reason < So i leave u all with a quote from a friend; "All things are subject to interpretation, whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth" .... Friedrich Nietzsche BTW, am a Christian and i helped my Muslim friend prepare ileya meat. Even made suya and asun from it. I also have fried meats reserved which will probably meet its Creator and ancestors today, with a chilled malt. |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by Hamazz1: 7:53am On Oct 05, 2014 |
SirHouloo:U gettin it wrong illeya meat is a sacrificial meat in honor of Gods favor to Abraham whn he was asked to sacrifice his son n later replaced by a ram sent by God.(in breif) illeya meat has no connectn to idol or idolism as a matter of fact it is prohibited 4a muslim to keep any non living image in his house dt casts a shadow... 1 Like |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by kolomax(m): 7:53am On Oct 05, 2014 |
Misogynist2014:what's the one saying 5 Likes |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by Midastorch(m): 7:53am On Oct 05, 2014 |
dcaliph: |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by Nobody: 7:55am On Oct 05, 2014 |
`See this one with his head like Sallah ram asking questions meant for the gods. Anyways, I eat whichever meat that comes to my table. Infact, yesterday I ate enough meat to the extent of passing out. ...HOLY WATER WAKED ME UP. |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by tbaba1234: 7:59am On Oct 05, 2014 |
Alcatraz001: Actually mate, your post is the one filled with hypocrisy... You talk about muslim causing 'problems' , Let's examine that assertion, shall we?? ISIS, Alqeada, How did they come about? Groups like this did not exist 40 years ago... Islam did not start 40 years ago by the way. There were a result and a reaction to the constant invasion of Muslim lands. If you hate violence so much, you should never travel to some western countries as their invasions have killed more people than terrorism perpetuated by muslims all in the name of spreading liberal democracy. Let us look at the stats, Iraqis dead: 1.5 million (http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq) No single muslim terrorist group has such stats. Not even if all of them were put together. There is no home in Iraq that has not witnessed death. More Stats: 88% of domestic terrorist plots in USA since 1995 did not involve Muslims. (http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/04/19/467384/chart-right-wing-extremism-terror-threat-oklahoma-city/?mobile=nc) Nigeria has about 50% muslim population, everywhere in this country will be in chaos if we are to believe your reasons but your post shows how shallow and ignorant, attitudes can be... 14 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by ABACHA1(m): 8:00am On Oct 05, 2014 |
:oIf Ÿ̲̣̣̣̥ø̲̣̣̥u̶̲̥̅̊ tink is wrong, den let me ask, why did jesus christ attend a party, then wine ÅΏd̶̲̥̅̊ dine with pagans ÅΏd̶̲̥̅̊ even went as far as changing water into wine as his fisrt miracle, |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by charzyh2: 8:01am On Oct 05, 2014 |
MsNas:Naija xtians claim to be holier than thou. I'm a xtian (not the chair warmer type) but I doubt if you ate sallah meat as I did last night. Most probably, I'll be coming back to it after church service today. No shaking! Msnas, it's been some time. How's studies? |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by piagetskinner(m): 8:06am On Oct 05, 2014 |
SirHouloo:Hmm...the bible sure does explains everything |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by myads890(m): 8:06am On Oct 05, 2014 |
The muslims are also offering the meat to God/Allah. Not idols SirHouloo: |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by charzyh2: 8:06am On Oct 05, 2014 |
I be deeeeeeeep christian but I dey chop any food wey pass my way. So far na say food. At least, ebi o gbodo pami ku now. |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by sabdaz: 8:10am On Oct 05, 2014 |
This nairaland sef. There should be a team that should be checking topics before being posted. People like causing chaos and unnecessary arguments in the name of religion. Bringing hatred. If you need to know whether it's OK to eat ileya meat or not,can't you ask your pastors or fathers. Some will use this opportunity to show their hatred for Islam. Something that is embraced by all Muslims around the globe,one ordinary person now came up with a thread causing confusion. Why do we enjoy things like this, after all most of us are born in to the religion we find ourselves. Its by the virtue of our births.how do you compare things you don't have the knowledge of one. Muslims that complain about christianity, do you even understand Islam well enough before you start condemning Christians while the same goes for the Christians too. But look at it this way, at least Muslims are one on the ileya festival, some part of Christianity don't believe in Christmas so they don't celebrate it. QURAN 109 VERSE 6 ( FOR YOU IS YOUR FAITH, AND FOR ME, MY FAITH) So if you want to eat ileya meat, eat. If you don't want to, please don't. At least you aren't part of the beggars and needies that are expected to be given |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by Misogynist2014(m): 8:16am On Oct 05, 2014 |
kolomax:Truth! http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah_as_Moon-god |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by Nobody: 8:21am On Oct 05, 2014 |
Misogynist2014: Thankyou........ 1 Like |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by catosh: 8:22am On Oct 05, 2014 |
Alcatraz001: Op and the rest of d Christians here thank u so much, u guys just gave me a solid reason not to give my Christian neighbors my sallah meat this year.the poor guys have been patrolling my house since last night waiting for their share of sallah meat as I usually give them every year not knowing their god no gree them eat idol meat. .....hmmm who am I to drag with their God. abegi make them go drink their god blood and flesh. no dey give me sallah meat again. 2 Likes |
Re: Is It Okay For A Christian To Eat Ileya Meat? by Nobody: 8:22am On Oct 05, 2014 |
For the Christians their religion is theirs ... And we muslims our religion is ours ... I always feel sick When little minded juveniles start posting comments about what they know nothing about ..... Esp nigeria xtians cliaming swot and holy .... When the people that brought the religion while our fore-fathers were serving idols etc never bother themselves whatsoever .... Read the page below http://evilbible.com may God widening our knowledge. |
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