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Kim Jong Un Of North Korea Toppled?-Very Strong Rumores!!! by Ideyontop: 3:11pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
If this is true then its good news for the world!! Read the article below. Has North Korea’s Kim Jong Un Been Toppled? Out of sight for a month, young Kim is supposedly ill. But rumors are swirling he’s been deposed—and North Korea’s second most powerful man now feels confident enough to travel South. Hwang Pyong So must be feeling pretty good about himself right now. At the latest Supreme People’s Assembly meeting, he was made vice chairman of the National Defense Commission. This was after his promotion to director of the General Political Bureau of the Korean People’s Army, making him the top political officer in the military. In a country where there is supposed to be no No. 2 official, he is called the second-most powerful figure. Now he has crossed the border into South Korea on a one-day, short-notice trip, triggering hopes of reconciliation between the arch-rival republics—and heightening speculation about the fate of Kim Jong Un, North Korea’s young supremo, who has not been seen in public since September 3. Hwang’s trip South on Saturday comes on the heels of a widely publicized report that Kim has been deposed. Jang Jin Sung, a former North Korean counterintelligence and propaganda official, is claiming that the Organization and Guidance Department of the Korean Workers’ Party, responsible for promotions within the regime, has taken over the country. Kim, according to Jang, is now merely a “puppet.” Leading Korea watchers, however, say they doubt Kim has lost his position at the center of the state founded by his grandfather and passed down to his father, his immediate predecessor. “This kind of travel would be way too out there if anything serious was going on in North Korea, so I don’t think it’s a sign of a coup,” John Delury of Yonsei University in Seoul told The Washington Post of Hwang’s jaunt down to Incheon, near the South Korean capital. Andrei Lankov of nearby Kookmin University, meanwhile, called the surprise visit merely a part of Pyongyang’s recent “charm offensive.” “North Korean diplomacy has been engaged in concerted, well-arranged, well-managed efforts to improve relations with pretty much the entire outside world,” he told the Post. “And you would not expect it to happen with nobody in control.” Lankov and Delury make a commonsense point, but Jang, a defector to Seoul, maintains that Kim was removed from power last year. That means Hwang could have consolidated his position in the interim and now feels secure enough to travel for a day. Indeed, there are signs that not only has Hwang risen, but also that Kim has fallen. The young ruler did not preside over last’s month meeting of the Supreme People’s Assembly, the first time that has happened since he took power after his father’s death in December 2011. Yes, he may have been ill, but if he was politically healthy, the meeting would have been postponed until he was able to appear. Also extremely unusual: The reports on the meeting from the state-run Korean Central News Agency mention Kim—first secretary of the Workers’ Party, first chairman of the National Defense Commission, and supreme commander of the People’s Army, all the top positions in the state and party—only at the end and only in passing. In a regime like North Korea’s, these state media reports spell political infirmity. And is Kim Jong Un really ill? He was last seen in public walking with a limp—he probably has gout —and state media has reported he is not well, but that is not what one member of Hwang’s 11-member delegation told South Korea’s Unification Minister Ryoo Kihl-jae on Saturday. The next day, Ryoo said he was assured that there were “no problems” with Kim’s health. But if Kim were well, there would have been no reason for him to have stayed out of sight for a month, especially during the Supreme People’s Assembly meeting. There are too many rumors and reports to allow one to conclude that all is well in Pyongyang. It is true that Jang Jin Sung’s storyline may not completely add up. After all, as influential as the Organization and Guidance Department may be—some even think it is more important than the National Defense Commission—it is not an agency built to grab and exercise power. Nonetheless, there are too many rumors and reports to allow one to conclude that all is well in Pyongyang. The story that the city is in lockdown —no permits to travel in or out issued since September 27—suggests that an extraordinary event has occurred. The mid-December execution of Jang Song Thaek, once thought to be Kim’s regent, and the subsequent eradication of his nationwide patronage network are symptoms of distress. The continual purges during Kim’s short tenure cannot be a good sign. In the space of 15 months he switched out his army chief three times, and it appears he replaced about half of the top 218 military and administrative officials. Pyongyang, according to the Financial Times, has not seen such turmoil since the late 1950s, when his grandfather Kim Il Sung eliminated opposition after his failure in the Korean War. As famed Korea watcher Bruce Bechtol has pointed out, the constant purges of senior civilians and flag officers over the last few years is proof of Kim’s inability to cement his position at the top of the political system. “Senior officials in North Korea’s Workers’ Party and military are increasingly objecting to policies or ignoring orders from leader Kim Jong Un, leading to rumors that his grip on the country is weakening,” noted the Chosun Ilbo, the most widely read newspaper in South Korea, in late July. Defying instructions would have been unthinkable during the tenure of his father or grandfather. Of course, in the world’s most opaque regime, almost any scenario is plausible. We should know a lot more, however, when we see who is on the reviewing stand during the October 10 celebration of the founding of the Workers’ Party. Until then, we can say there are signs that Kim Jong Un has lost substantial power and will soon become, if he is not already, a figurehead. Source: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/05/has-north-korea-s-kim-jong-un-been-toppled.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+thedailybeast%2Farticles+%28The+Daily+Beast+-+Latest+Articles%29 1 Like |
Re: Kim Jong Un Of North Korea Toppled?-Very Strong Rumores!!! by Nobody: 3:13pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
If he is toppled, it is a good news to the World and a victory to democratic struggle. #NorthKoreaMustBeFree |
Re: Kim Jong Un Of North Korea Toppled?-Very Strong Rumores!!! by Idrismusty97(m): 3:18pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
Very little information comes out of that country so it may just be another mere speculation. Just like the rumor that North korea ordered all men to cut a particularly hairstyle and Kim Jong-un’s executed his uncle using wild hungry dogs and also executed his girlfriend but all these have been confirmed false. Well you can't blame the media as very little information comes out of that Communist Nation. Even China have little faith in North Korea. Remember in May a leaked report suggests that China is planning for a possible collapses of Kim Jong-un’s regime. The plan include proposals for detaining key North Korean leaders and the creation of refugee camps on the Chinese side of the frontier in the event of an outbreak of civil unrest in the secretive state. China plans for North Korean regime collapse leaked Well, If the below quote is true then they is no doubt he has been poisoned! This might just be a coup. And is Kim Jong Un really ill? He was last seen in public walking with a limp—he probably has gout—and state media has reported he is not well, but that is not what one member of Hwang’s 11 member delegation told South Korea’s Unification Minister Ryoo Kihl-jae on Saturday. |
Re: Kim Jong Un Of North Korea Toppled?-Very Strong Rumores!!! by anonimi: 3:32pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
barcanista: Please tell us how DICTATOR Buhari is different from the North Korean dictator ![]() I am wondering how a reasonable Nigerian will wish freedom & democracy for North Koreans while selling us back into chains ![]() 7 Likes |
Re: Kim Jong Un Of North Korea Toppled?-Very Strong Rumores!!! by iJAY1: 3:36pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
anonimi: forgive me but you sound stu-pid. Am no supporter of Buhari but it's rather sickening how your likes won't let us have a healthy and educative political discussion without mentioning buhari, gej, atiku, kwankwanweed etc. To prove your stu-pidity, here are ways he differ: 1) age (far older) 2) current position (not a leader) 3) ability to win ( <30%) 4) nationality (Nigerian) 5) ideology (different) 6) he's an ex-military fellow 7) not a monarch etc. @internet soldiers, leave certain interesting threads alone! 6 Likes |
Re: Kim Jong Un Of North Korea Toppled?-Very Strong Rumores!!! by Nobody: 3:45pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
barcanista: For your Mind, you are a freedom fighter for Korean people abi?? You have to free your own country (Nigeria) first before talking about Korea. 3 Likes |
Re: Kim Jong Un Of North Korea Toppled?-Very Strong Rumores!!! by iJAY1: 4:12pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
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Re: Kim Jong Un Of North Korea Toppled?-Very Strong Rumores!!! by anonimi: 4:18pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
iJAY1: Thank you for your list. Did you see the two words I highlighted in my post ![]() ![]() 5 Likes |
Re: Kim Jong Un Of North Korea Toppled?-Very Strong Rumores!!! by iJAY1: 4:38pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
anonimi: funny you. what correlates your points? BTW, your reply is going to be pathetic, so don't expect to hear from me. 3 Likes |
Re: Kim Jong Un Of North Korea Toppled?-Very Strong Rumores!!! by Jesusloveyou: 4:48pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
anonimi:millitary always take over power for a purpose,when d purpose is achieve,they conduct free and fair election.military is not hereditary,buhari would have stay longer to achieve his purpose before ibb disappoint nigeria,of not achieving d purpose of cleansing d system from corruption.that is why i want buhari back thru legitimate(democratic) way to finish what he started. 2 Likes |
Re: Kim Jong Un Of North Korea Toppled?-Very Strong Rumores!!! by onyenro(m): 7:15pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2781460/North-Korean-officials-dispel-rumours-leader-Kim-Jong0Un-ill-say-s-wrong-health.html according to this report, the man came for the closing ceremony of the Asian games... |
Re: Kim Jong Un Of North Korea Toppled?-Very Strong Rumores!!! by Idrismusty97(m): 7:53pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
onyenro:...Along with two other top aides. What makes this visit special is that it is very very rare! This is the highest level face-to-face talks in five years. Al Jazeera explains better; Three senior North Korean officials visited South Korea on a rare trip to attend the Asian Games closing ceremony, in what could potentially bring a breakthrough in ties between the rival Koreas. |
Re: Kim Jong Un Of North Korea Toppled?-Very Strong Rumores!!! by Torkwase1(f): 10:39pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
More speculations/rumors from the world's (possibly) most closed regime. |
Re: Kim Jong Un Of North Korea Toppled?-Very Strong Rumores!!! by NwaNimo1(m): 10:44pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
Kim Jong Un - get well soon, |
Re: Kim Jong Un Of North Korea Toppled?-Very Strong Rumores!!! by publicenemy(m): 11:12pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
Hope this is true |
Re: Kim Jong Un Of North Korea Toppled?-Very Strong Rumores!!! by omenka(m): 11:20pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
barcanista:Have their current leader toppled and supplanted by an American puppet where Washington becomes the dictator. I'm no supporter of dictatorship but I think any action with the input of the Americans would only result in further distabilization of the country and the region at large, bringing with it the attendant caos, deaths, and general hardship. Remember: “ What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or in the holy name of liberty or democracy?" -Mahatma Ghandi. 2 Likes |
Re: Kim Jong Un Of North Korea Toppled?-Very Strong Rumores!!! by Nobody: 7:07am On Oct 07, 2014 |
What sort of nationalistic ideology keeps a whole country in bondage and isolation? |
Re: Kim Jong Un Of North Korea Toppled?-Very Strong Rumores!!! by Oklander: 8:13am On Oct 07, 2014 |
omenka: Correct... |
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