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Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by haffaze777(m): 9:49am On Oct 06, 2014 |
By Femi Aribisala The word “Trinity” can be found nowhere in the Bible. It is completely incongruous with scriptural understanding of God. God is not three persons. There is only one God and it is the Father. Jesus says: “salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22). Salvation is neither of the Romans nor of the Italians. The Trinity is an unscriptural concept, smuggled into Christendom under Roman Constantine by cloak-and-dagger means. Precepts of men Jesus says to God: “Your word is truth.” (John 17:17). But the doctrine of the Trinity is a lie. Here is the lie: “There are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.” (I John 5:7). This so-called scripture is counterfeit. It is non-existent in the original versions of the Bible. It was smuggled into the Bible by Trinitari-ans. Today, you will only find it in the King James editions. The very fact that Trinitarians found it necessary to smuggle I John 5:7 into the Bible in order to validate the doctrine of the Trinity shows conclusively that the doctrine is fake. The cardinal principle of God is simple and straightforward. Here it is in a nutshell: “Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD.” (Deuteronomy 6:4). This is validated by Jesus himself. (Mark 12:29). Therefore, hear O Christians, the Lord our God is not a Trinity. The Lord our God is one. Jesus berated the Pharisees for teaching as doctrines the precepts of men. (Matt-hew 15:9). Many churches have fallen into the same error with the Trinity fallacy. Family of God John says: “No man has seen God at any time.” (John 1:18). But men have seen Jesus. Therefore, the expression “God” refers exclusively to God the Father. Jesus never refers to himself as God; he reserves that terminology solely for the Father. When someone called him “Good Teacher,” Jesus replied: “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.” (Matthew 19: 17). Jesus never says God is a Trinity. Instead, he reveals God is a family. The head of this family is the Father. God’s household include Jesus; God’s sons and servants; and angels. That is more than a trinity. The man-made concept of the Trinity makes God an exclusive triumvirate, limited to “the Godhead. ” However, the Christ-revealed portrait of God makes God an inclusive and growing family, open to all believers. Jesus said to God: “I will declare your name to my brothers.” (Psalm 22: 22). Jesus is: “the firstborn among many brothers.” (Romans 8:29). Believers are the brothers of Jesus. But we are not the brothers of God. God is our Father. Sons of God Jesus only claims to be “the only begotten Son of God.” (John 3:18). Indeed, he drew a distinction between God and himself. He said to God: “This is eternal life, that they may know You, THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.” (John 17:3). When they accused him of blasphemy saying: “You, being a man, make yourself God,” Jesus replied: “I said, ‘I am the Son of God.’” (John 10:36). When Peter said to Jesus: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God,” Jesus confirmed this was a God- given revelation. He replied: “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.” (Matthew 16:15-17). This divine affirmation was repeated during Jesus’ baptism (Matthew 3:17); and on the Mount of Transfiguration. (Matthew 17:5). There can be no higher validation than these. John says: “If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater; for this is the witness of God which He has testified of His Son.” (I John 5:9). Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God. Jesus existed “before the foundation of the world.” (John 17:24). Then he became a man. (John 1:14). But God does not change. (Malachi 3:6). Jesus is a man. (John 8:40). But God is not a man (Numbers 23:19). Jesus died. But God cannot die. Jesus died but God raised him from the dead. Jesus calls himself “the beginning of the creation of God.” (Revelation 3:14). God confirms this, declaring to Jesus: “You are My Son, today I have begotten You.” (Psalm 2:7). But the Father himself is not begotten. He has no beginning but is from everlasting. The psalmist declares: “Even from everlasting to everlasting, You are God.” (Psalm 90:2). Jesus has a Father. But God has no Father. Jesus has a God. But there is no other God but God. Jesus says to Mary: “I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.” (John 20:17). However, it should be understood that the son of a lion is a lion. Therefore, Jesus, the son of God is a God. God the Father calls Jesus God, confirming his divinity. He says to Jesus: “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom. You love righteousness and hate wickedness; therefore God, Your God, has anointed You with the oil of gladness more than Your companions.” (Psalm 45:6-7). Jesus explained to the Jews that in the scriptures: “(God) called them gods, to whom the word of God came.” (John 10:35). Indeed, God calls his sons gods. He says: “You are gods, and all of you are children of the Most High. But you shall die like men,” (Psalm 82:6-7). He also says to his servant, Moses: “I have made thee a god to Pharaoh.” (Exodus 7: 1). Moses himself declares to the Israelites: “The LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords.” (Deuteronomy 10:17). Paul summarises it thus: “Even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords), yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ.” (I Corinthians 8:5-6). In short, God is not Father, Son and Holy Ghost. There is only one God and it is the Father. There is only one Lord and it is Jesus. As a man cannot be differentiated from his spirit, so God cannot be differentiated from his spirit. The Holy Spirit is the spirit of God. God has no equals The word “Christ” is not Jesus’ surname. It means “the Anointed One.” But the anointed must be subordinate to the anointer. Nowhere in the scriptures is it ever said or implied that God is anointed. However, Luke says: “God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power.” (Acts 10: 38). The Jews accused Jesus of making himself equal with God. (John 5:18). But Jesus never makes such claims. Instead he says: “My Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28). Jesus submitted totally to God. At Gethsemane, he said to him: “Not My will, but Yours, be do- ne.” (Luke 22:42). At-one-ment with God Nevertheless, Jesus declares: “I and My Father are one.” (John 10:30). However, the sense in which he makes this declaration is qualified. Jesus only does the will of the Father. (John 6:38). He only speaks the words of the Father. (John 14: 10). The works he does are the works of the Father. That is the true atonement, ensuring that he who sees Jesus sees the Father. (John 14:9). Jesus prescribes the same atonement for us. He says to God: “I gave them the same glory you gave me, so that they may be one, just as you and I are one: I in them and you in me, so that they may be completely one.” (John 17:22-23). 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by jnrbayano(m): 10:00am On Oct 06, 2014 |
A classic trash!! keep reading the holy bible like a novel... 2 Likes |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by Boomark(m): 11:14am On Oct 06, 2014 |
jnrbayano: How do you read your own, blindly or without understanding? Please tell us why Christ (deity) has a God (the Father), Rev 3:12, the same way we do, Jn 20:17? Hope you know those verses? No classic fumbling, no digression, no running away. Just the reason why it is so. 1 Like |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by PastorKun(m): 11:27am On Oct 06, 2014 |
Absolutely brilliant write up by Femi Aribisala. The trinity doctrine remains a pagan concept smuggled into early christianity to make it more acceptable to the roman pagans. I endorse this write up 100% 4 Likes |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by shdemidemi(m): 11:49am On Oct 06, 2014 |
Boomark: I will pose a similar question to you- Does God really have a son in Jesus, if he does who is His wife? God constantly took counsel by and within himself, how logically comprehensible is this? 1 Like |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by dein77(m): 12:03pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
Oh God, You know I don't know how to prove the Trinity. It's an heavenly arithmetic that surpasses my intellectual prowess. I simply have enough faith to believe it. 3 Likes |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by shdemidemi(m): 12:11pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
dein77: It is a mystery, yet the truth to those who will take time to understand the setting of scriptures. Jesus is God. 3 Likes |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by Boomark(m): 12:49pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
shdemidemi: That is like asking me, "how can you make fire without matches?" i will bring out 2 stones and show you. I believe you will still continue to wonder what am doing with stones. Adam is the son of God, Luke 3:38. God does not need a wife to make a son. This is the original thing. This is how the first human son was gotten....without a wife. Settled or Do you disagree? The question about Counsel is an attempt to lure me away from paying attention to my question. You can bring that up after and i will give an answer to it. I want my question answered without digression. I want answers. Please tell us why Christ (deity) has a God (the Father), Rev 3:12, the same way we do, Jn 20:17? ^There it is again. If i should link another chapter to the above, na deep trouble. 3 Likes |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by Boomark(m): 12:58pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
dein77: ![]() Enough faith to delete the truth in those bible quotes and hang onto what you did not fully? I see. 3 Likes |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by PastorKun(m): 1:11pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
dein77: As a christian, you ought to know that the trinity concept or doctrine does not exist in scriptures talkless of a requirement to have faith to believe in the unbiblical doctrine. Trinity is simply a doctrine of men being presented as the word of God. It has NO biblical basis and faith in it is not required of believers. 3 Likes |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by Boomark(m): 1:13pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
shdemidemi: Before you tell anyone that you must also make the person understand that Jesus is not the Father. Unless you and sisterme are one. The son of a lion(Tom) is a lion(Ginger). Tom is a lion Ginger is a lion Tom is not Ginger. Tom is the head of Ginger Tom is greater than Ginger 1 Like |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by shdemidemi(m): 1:24pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
Boomark: I completely disagree, Adam was not the first human son. God in the person of Jesus was said to be the first begotten of the father. Hebrews 1:6. Boomark:Ok Boomark: Now, whenever Jesus refer to His father or His God, He presents Himself as God the son. However, this does not take away all the divine attributes predicated on Him like none other. |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by shdemidemi(m): 1:31pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
Boomark: If you want to go by logic, I won't even attempt going into a debate with you. There are a flurry of events that does not agree with logic in scripture, if we must go by just logic we can as well dismiss the entire faith. God is not Tom so that makes your analogy misleading in this matter. |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by shdemidemi(m): 1:46pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
Boomark: Just because femi threw quotes bountifully with ease without proper understanding, one should see Jesus that walked the face of the earth like just another Tom, right? |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by jnrbayano(m): 2:44pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
Boomark: Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Who is Isaiah refering to here? |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by Nobody: 4:11pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
Why is it,that whenever a cult attacks christianity, they always attack the deity of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ? Jesus Christ is God is not a contest but a statement of REALITY. This God became flesh( 1 tim 3:16). Paul said it is beyond all question and a mystery...anyone who wants to argue this should take it up with Paul and the Holy Spirit. |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by Boomark(m): 4:28pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
shdemidemi: 1. Adam or Jesus, who was the first to become a human? 2. Was Adam not a son God before women started giving birth(virgin birth inclusive)? Answer these things and contradict yourself. Your Hebrew 1:6 did not tell us how God(the Father) begot Himself and why God(the Father) should die as Jesus? God forbid bad thing! Now, whenever Jesus refer to His father or His God, He presents Himself as God the son. However, this does not take away all the divine attributes predicated on Him like none other. Error! Error! This is how preachers keep deceiving people to prove their man-made doctrine. Did Jesus present himself as God the Son or as Son of God? Where did you get that? Nobody is taking his qualities away. So despite all these powers, why does he have a God the same way we do and is subject to His God, 1Cor 15:27-28. The question is still being dodged like tomorrow no dey. 5 Likes |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by Boomark(m): 4:32pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
shdemidemi: The same way God is not Jesus. You know the details of what i mean. 1 Like |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by Boomark(m): 4:44pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
shdemidemi: Femi get sense. Had it been he wrote a different thing, that question of mine will make him to think again. He understood that when we have 2 Toms is school, it would be very wrong for a teacher to refer to the 2 Toms as one just because the bear the same name, Tom. Tom A is not Tom B but they are both Toms. |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by deScifa(m): 4:46pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
So many versions and doctrines of the lie called Christianity ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by Boomark(m): 4:55pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
jnrbayano: Its say, "His name WILL BE CALLED..." before that time, God is already know as Almighty God and Father. That you Will be Called a father tomorrow does not mean you Papa will resign from fatherhood. The verse refers to Jesus who will be call Mighty God, Everlasting Father on a Future date when he will be born. 1 Like |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by jnrbayano(m): 5:04pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
Boomark: Good you admitted it was Jesus Isaiah referred to in that verse Would Isaiah as directed by the spirit of God (The Holy Spirit) Isaiah 9:6 call Jesus the names which he is not? Is the Holy Spirit confused? Again, how many "Mighty Gods and Everlasting Fathers" do we have? |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by Boomark(m): 5:22pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
Bidam: Where is the Cultist? ![]() If you cannot defend what Paul taught, then you should keep silent, learn and ask questions. I have always told you to start afresh but you wouldn't listen. Please tell us why Christ (deity) has a God (the Father), Rev 3:12, the same way we do, Jn 20:17 and remained subject to his God, 1Cor 15:27-28? The question is still on, wanna try? ![]() |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by shdemidemi(m): 5:41pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
Boomark: You flatter yourself my friend. Contradict what exactly! It is you that need to do so much bible twisting to refute Jesus as God and not the other way round. As for your questions: . Adam or Jesus, who was the first to become a human? Stop asking profane questions like one in a science or maths class. The bible calls Him the first begotten of the father, my friend, I believe the bible account. .Was Adam not a son God before women started giving birth(virgin birth inclusive) The relationship between the son and the father is such that the son is the expression of who the father is. He did not become a son because he was made of the dust as man after Adam or by birth via Mary. John 14:9 Heb 1 5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? 6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by Boomark(m): 5:49pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
jnrbayano: Who said Jesus is not what he was called? We have one Mighty God and his God is the Almighty God. We have one Everlasting Father and his Father is the Almighty God, the Only True God. Jn 17:3, the Father of spirits, Hebrew 12:9. So you next question? |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by shdemidemi(m): 5:52pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
Boomark: I think coming across as though one is evading your questions seem to boost your confidence. There is nothing to hide or to be evasive about. If Jesus is called God and at the same time called the son, what is the crime in calling him 'God the son'? Boomark: You will need to dismiss a whole lot of scripture if you insist on basing Jesus' divinity on the understanding that He prayed to God, He has a God et al. |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by shdemidemi(m): 5:54pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
Boomark: Is it in your bible that any god that did not create heaven and earth shall perish? |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by Nobody: 6:00pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
The concept of trinity defies common sense, sorry. |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by jnrbayano(m): 6:00pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
Boomark: Since we are both in agreement as suggested by the bold, why is there a debate then? 1 Like |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by shdemidemi(m): 6:01pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
deScifa: On the contrary, there is one version and one doctrine but people's understanding vary. Moreover this topic is just for information sake, it does not add or take out of one's salvation. |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by deScifa(m): 7:24pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
shdemidemi: Just like it does not add or remove anything from me ![]() |
Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by Boomark(m): 8:03pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
shdemidemi: If you cannot tell between Adam and Jesus who came first as a man, then what they are teaching you from the scripture has no meaning. This is we are arguing. Teachers teach people to have faith in what they don't know. .Was Adam not a son God before women started giving birth(virgin birth inclusive) Na wa o! Why was Adam said to be a son of God, Luke 3:38? Did Jesus become the begotten Son of God because a woman gave birth to him? Keep dodging my question with your digression. |
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