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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by omicron(m): 8:13am On Oct 07, 2014
Tbliss12:


I don't like when people get this wrong, I never wish to write on the platform of JEALOUSY. But only wrote this piece just to share what these two professional fields experience on NYSC camp ground that's all.
I intepreted your OP as xpression of resentment esp when you said it 'saddens' you that they earn that much while you earn that little.
Tbliss12:
But its so saddened here in my country (Nigeria) the way Medical Student(Pharmacists,Nurses, Medical Lab Scientist and Doctors) are being given mouth watery treatment on NYSC service ground and the future Engineers are being treated like idiots. Infact in Benue State where I'm serving Med Guys are paid like 60k @ppa, 30k @state level followed with 3bedroom flats of Doctors quarters(free of charge) nd 19k of allawee compared with an Engineering Student sent to primary or secondary school with 2k@ ppa and just your 19k of allawee with no accommodation even if you had a First Class(B.Eng) in school.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by SporaD8: 8:14am On Oct 07, 2014
I will tell a story...
A doctor visit his engineer friend. The guy just finish assembling a machine part when he turn to the doctor, "We are into the same line of work - we both open, fix the damage, and reassembled."
looking at his doctor friend in frustration he blurted "How come you earn more pay than me?!"
The doctor looked at his friend and reply, "...Perhaps you should try fixing the problem while the engine is still working hot and smoke!"

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by XketchDesigns(m): 8:18am On Oct 07, 2014
Tbliss12:


I'm into Production and Industrial Engineering (Mechanical Engineering)
Hi.
Please do you care to enlighten us more? (personal experience)
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 8:20am On Oct 07, 2014
@Tbliss
Guy, you dont have to complain. Besides, teaching is part of learning. And teaching is a profesion that bring blessing. You dont know how many lives you will touch by your lessons, they will just be praying for you "God bless that corper" if you teach them well. Dont let money take Gods blessing from you, teach them to know especially subjects like fur. Maths. Advise them also and see what God will do for you.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 8:20am On Oct 07, 2014
The question is:
how much technological or engineering output does a corper engineer produce? nothing.
How much health delivery does a corp doctor offer: enormous.
So, op, how can you reap where u did not sow?
you want to be paid 100k for teaching ss1 students physics and still follow them on holidays, weekend day offs, midterm break etc.
There is no holiday for the corp doctor, in fact corp doctors are underpaid! They function as full blown doctors .

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by decode55(m): 8:22am On Oct 07, 2014
you hardly see those in the Medical Field opening threads comparing themselves with people from other walks of life. undecided

Garri no dey do advert but e dey sell pass indomie.

I rest my case wink

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 8:28am On Oct 07, 2014
The disparity is displayed everywhere , though the usefulness of the medical field cannot be overemphasized they can't function properly without the help of engineers , take my school for example , the there are two medical hostels with are the best in the school while engineering has none and now even the newly built hostel is still being deliberated on whether it should go to the medical field.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 8:43am On Oct 07, 2014
InyinyaAgbaOku:
The question is:
how much technological or engineering output does a corper engineer produce? nothing

You wrong bro, intellectual building matters a lot as everyone here knows that the foundational science courses( phys,chem,maths) is our language in Engineering especially mathematics which in turn builds their calculative skills u might not know when you are sound in mathematics u tend to be very calculative in dealing with things faster ur responds to issues will be superfast. That's what we do even when the Secondary Schools luckily tend to have us around so irase that from ur mind.

How much health delivery does a corp doctor offer: enormous.
So, op, how can you reap where u did not sow?

I need not say much here but occurences around in Nigeria will tell for itself.

you want to be paid 100k for teaching ss1 students physics and still follow them on holidays, weekend day offs, midterm break etc.
There is no holiday for the corp doctor, in fact corp doctors are underpaid! They function as full blown doctors .
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Mujinho4b(m): 8:46am On Oct 07, 2014
Hmmm. Passing by undecided
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 8:47am On Oct 07, 2014
[quote author=Tbliss12 post=26932198][/quote]

Teaching is teaching.
An engineer corp member doesn't work as an engineer at all, simple.
A doctor who is employed to teach biology to ss2 students will be paid lime other corpers.
But once he is in the hospital, doing the work of a doctor, he shouldn't be paid 5k as a corp teacher.

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by alentyno: 9:03am On Oct 07, 2014
Engineering rocks!
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 9:40am On Oct 07, 2014
Tbliss12:


Lolz...... U just made me smiled
datx my hobby grin
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by nobilis: 9:53am On Oct 07, 2014
I'm sorry to say but this is a really useless post.
It is this kind of comparison that is causing this friction between doctors and other health workers in public hospitals. You only look at the remuneration.

Now look at this:
1. When medical students study very hard during UTME and post-UTME aptitude tests in order to gain admission into universities, where were the engineering students? At least, we all know that the cut-off mark for Medicine is always higher than that of Engineering.

OP, did you protest that there is a lot of "GAP" in the admission requirements between the two courses of study?

No. You didn't.

2. When you go on end-of-semester breaks and the medical students remain in school (with no hopes of breaks), studying and doing their hospital postings, OP, did you protest that medical students are working in school while you're having the time of your life on Holz? Obviously you didn't.

3. When engineering students fail exams, they carry the courses over to the next session, while when medical students fail exams (depending on the degree of failure), they may have to drop a class and repeat the whole session.
OP, did you protest that you guys should be permitted to drop classes when you fail exams?
No, you didn't.

4. When you graduate after 5 years of study, and the medical students you gained admission with are still groaning under the weight of one professional exam or the other, did you protest that you should be made to spend more years in school? No, you didn't. You graduated with joy and happiness.

But now, you're protesting that doctors and health workers are treated more specially than engineers during NYSC years. Isn't that greed and injustice? You want Abraham's blessings to be yours but you don't want Abraham's sufferings and hardwork to be yours.

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 10:16am On Oct 07, 2014
How many times have engineers gone on strike to blackmail the federal & state govts.
Know that blackmailers are highly paid.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 10:44am On Oct 07, 2014
nobilis:
I'm sorry to say but this is a really useless post.
It is this kind of comparison that is causing this friction between doctors and other health workers in public hospitals. You only look at the remuneration.

Now look at this:
1. When medical students study very hard during UTME and post-UTME aptitude tests in order to gain admission into universities, where were the engineering students? At least, we all know that the cut-off mark for Medicine is always higher than that of Engineering.

OP, did you protest that there is a lot of "GAP" in the admission requirements between the two courses of study?

No. You didn't.

2. When you go on end-of-semester breaks and the medical students remain in school (with no hopes of breaks), studying and doing their hospital postings, OP, did you protest that medical students are working in school while you're having the time of your life on Holz? Obviously you didn't.

3. When engineering students fail exams, they carry the courses over to the next session, while when medical students fail exams (depending on the degree of failure), they may have to drop a class and repeat the whole session.
OP, did you protest that you guys should be permitted to drop classes when you fail exams?
No, you didn't.

4. When you graduate after 5 years of study, and the medical students you gained admission with are still groaning under the weight of one professional exam or the other, did you protest that you should be made to spend more years in school? No, you didn't. You graduated with joy and happiness.

But now, you're protesting that doctors and health workers are treated more specially than engineers during NYSC years. Isn't that greed and injustice? You want Abraham's blessings to be yours but you don't want Abraham's sufferings and hardwork to be yours.

@nobilis no offense please for the fact that u have great affinity for medical profession,you should understand that everyone has right to his/her own opinion. And let me let you know one simple thing, I have graduates from medical dept in my school and in case u don't know that there is nothing like 3rd class,2nd class upper/lower and 1st class in the medical profession which implies that when u meet up with the cut-off CGPA u have passed and be qualified to become a Doctor of Medicine.
If you fail to see them as professionals together its your view but I still maintain that its not for comparism but for fair play to both simple

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 10:47am On Oct 07, 2014
InyinyaAgbaOku:


Teaching is teaching.
An engineer corp member doesn't work as an engineer at all, simple.
A doctor who is employed to teach biology to ss2 students will be paid lime other corpers.
But once he is in the hospital, doing the work of a doctor, he shouldn't be paid 5k as a corp teacher.

Lolz.... Times are coming when Engineering Corpers will be @d right field of practice. We are going there.....
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 10:52am On Oct 07, 2014
Tbliss12:


Lolz.... Times are coming when Engineering Corpers will be @d right field of practice. We are going there.....

unless so. cheers
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by nobilis: 11:03am On Oct 07, 2014
Tbliss12:


@nobilis no offense please for the fact that u have great affinity for medical profession,you should understand that everyone has right to his/her own opinion. And let me let you know one simple thing, I have graduates from medical dept in my school and in case u don't know that there is nothing like 3rd class,2nd class upper/lower and 1st class in the medical profession which implies that when u meet up with the cut-off CGPA u have passed and be qualified to become a Doctor of Medicine.
If you fail to see them as professionals together its your view but I still maintain that its not for comparism but for fair play to both simple

I'm sorry, my guy, because out of everything you wrote, I only understood the first sentence. Every other thing you wrote either made no sense to me or had no bearing to what I posted earlier (which you quoted).

I have not said any profession deserves to be looked down on. But when you decide to compare two professions, do a holistic comparison. Don't compare the "blessings" and ignore the "sufferings"

Lastly, you don't graduate from med school in Nigeria with a Doctor of Medicine (first) degree. Educate yourself better.

Ciao.

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by crackthinker: 11:05am On Oct 07, 2014
dridowu:
@op, when medical student are busy reading during/after session , where are engineering student ?
Whe Doctors are busy at work during strike, public holiday and night duty, where are the engineers ?
Where are the engineers when the Docs are using part of their hard earned money to cater for some patients ?
Where are the NSE/COREN , when NMA/NVMA/NMDCN are disucssing the future with govt ?
Where are the engineers when the Docs are been woken up in the middle of the night to attend to their enemies/friends ?
Where are the enginners when the Docs have an accidental injury ?
Where are the engineers when the Docs are giving real bite from relation of the patient that dies ?
Guy, no time for story , just face your work and leave the medical field alone.
Jah Bless

There is no gainsaying the fact that we have got it compleatly wrong when it comes to remuneration in Nigeria, but things will sort themselves out! As things are a lot of people are either studying medicine or making sure their children study it, the result will be the fact that we will have far more doctors than we will need and be able to pay and it will cause a chain reaction, at that point government would be forced to correct its errors
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Damlesky(m): 11:13am On Oct 07, 2014
I'm studying Architecture still new though. 300L students are already having clients sef. Guys in 600 levels are already comfortable. Wetin concern us, na to design hospitals or industries. You can work as an architect, lecture and go into business at the same time. No need to cry over salary.






I REP ARCHITECTURE!!!

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by drobadebayo: 11:14am On Oct 07, 2014
Tbliss12:


Tell them let them know........ Maybe they don't know,Telecoms,Automobile,Oil and Gas Engineers are paid almost half a million monthly and if you care to know Engineering is so wide that you can choose to be versatile!!!
So why d noise!!!am yet to c a thread where any1 complains about ur half a milli,if u like make a billion.

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 11:23am On Oct 07, 2014
Of course there's a fat gap
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by drobadebayo: 11:48am On Oct 07, 2014
The gap will always be there as long as a doctor works in a hospital and an engineer teaches physics during youth corps.Am sure it's a whole different story if the engineer works in an automobile company for instance.
Only lazy engineers whine and mk noise about doctors earnings as you can quadruple a doctors earnings without sleeping your life out in an hospital.Hv you seen docs on forbes?Am sure you ll find tons of enterpren/engineers.Lots of people are just too mentally lazy to carve out a niche for themselves.
#proudlyadoctor

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Herrmes: 11:51am On Oct 07, 2014
Are doctors respected? Yes, some of them, Most of them claim they same lives but have never been in an ER, all they do is prescribe aspirin when you have fever, Hell, some doctors work till retirement and never do anything more than treat malaria, typhoid and fever, not saying treating it isn't important, but when you're done keep your mouth shut, I respect good, hardworking, reputable doctors, not those feel among ones all over this thread

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by lonelydora: 11:53am On Oct 07, 2014
Although I am working as an Engineer and earning well, I regret studying Engineering.

Why would engineering be studied as a part time course in our polytechnics?

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Tunguy01(m): 11:53am On Oct 07, 2014
Why cnt dey have dsame respect
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by j4sure(m): 11:54am On Oct 07, 2014
Engineering student are special students.am coming
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by daroseconcepts: 11:55am On Oct 07, 2014
Me thinks its an issue of demand and supply. Demand for doctors in PPA is higher than that of engineers. I am an engineer who served in Borno State. In my PPA, Damboa, there were no resident doctors. People were treated by nurses only. Hence that gap created the increase in allowances for the medical docs. On the other hand, there were no engineering projects that needed engineers...hence we taught physics and maths, and were paid peanuts.

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Tunby(m): 11:55am On Oct 07, 2014
alotofgrace:


U WRONG THERE!!!
who's machines converted ur herbal drugs to tablets? who designed ur syringe?
get this...medicine is fixed, no creativity........in engineering, we combine the beauty of arts and the Heavenly tool called Mathematics to change things as challenges portray themselves

doctors do nothing, infact GOD HEALS, THE DOC TAKES THE FEE angry

remember...God was first an electrical/engineering....let there be light



..........engineering rules
Spot on!!!!
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by omanifrank(m): 11:55am On Oct 07, 2014
hmm
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 11:56am On Oct 07, 2014
Lacomus:
The reason is because this country is not technologically oriented , I will advice you shouldn't jealous em except you want get heart attack.
after he get heart attack, the doctor will treat him lol.

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Psalmpy(m): 11:57am On Oct 07, 2014
just wondering sha

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