ihedinobi2:
A while ago I started to think about putting together a sort of study on Christianity in a kind of chronology. The idea was to begin at the New Birth and proceed from point to point on to the New Destiny. I thought that it would help Christians to better appreciate their calling and new identity. I knew that I myself wanted to know as clearly as possible what being a Christian meant, not just in this world's terms but in the eternal sense.

The question largely was "what have we got into?" What does Christ mean? What are we looking forward to? Why do we have to live in the prescribed way in this world? Basically, what is Christ and thus what are we?

I know what we tend to do here and how poor my availability can be but I think we can make this work. I think it will take a while to study these questions and make peace with their answers. But it will be totally worth it.

So, anyone interested?

ok. Let the show begins

LESSON ONE....


Before we were called Christians we called ourselves believers and "followers of the Way". Christian was a name that outsiders gave us, whether in jest and mockery or in seriousness we don't know. What we do know is that outsiders thought it a fitting name for us and in time we adopted it.

Christianity is big on Faith. That is obvious from our choosing to call ourselves believers. Christianity begins from belief. Everybody believes several things from tomorrow's sunrise to the neighbor's trustworthiness and goodwill toward us when they tell us about the man that came visiting our wife when we were out. What is the special thing that Christians believe that makes them believers and others unbelievers?

logicboy01:


Where did you get your degree/qualification in christian theology?

My qualification is by birth. My degree is by experience.

logicboy01:
Where are my peeps?


Please, dont tell me that this chatbox is derailed

We are here.

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LESSON TWO....

If you thought about Lesson One, you did good. And you must have started to realize just where all the conflict in Christianity begins.

So what is that special thing that Christians believe that makes us call ourselves believers?

It would have to be a cornerstone of all other beliefs that Christians might share with unbelievers, a belief that is unique and thus central to Christianity. I urge you to think a little about it. What do Christians believe that nobody else does?

Perhaps I should leave it a while again for you to think but let me urge you instead to think a little before reading any further.

If you are reading further look at Matthew 16:13-21. That is where the answer is. Think about it in preparation for more of this later today.

ihedinobi2:

My qualification is by birth. My degree is by experience.

So you are like every fake preacher. No formal education in theology; you just make it up as you go.

logicboy01:



So you are like every fake preacher. No formal education in theology; you just make it up as you go.

Not much better than you then. Or do you have any formal training in philosophy and religion?

ihedinobi2:

Not much better than you then. Or do you have any formal training in philosophy and religion?

I do not have a religion. I am not a rabbi or a religious teacher.

logicboy01:




I do not have a religion. I am not a rabbi or a religious teacher.

And that qualifies you to criticize religions and philosophies. Lovely.

ihedinobi2:

And that qualifies you to criticize religions and philosophies. Lovely.

FAIL.

What qualifies me is that I have practised the religions that I criticize.

Being a critic is easy. I do not have to be a an Engineer to know a bad car

logicboy01:


FAIL.

What qualifies me is that I have practised the religions that I criticize.

Being a critic is easy. I do not have to be a an Engineer to know a bad car

You want to go back to my first answer?

ihedinobi2:



You want to go back to my first answer?

A critic is different from a Teacher.


Experiencing religion is not enough to be a teacher.


A critic does not need to be an Engineer to spot a bad car
A teacher has to be an engineer to teach people how to repair/create/modify cars properly.

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logicboy01:



A critic is different from a Teacher.


Experiencing religion is not enough to be a teacher.


A critic does not need to be an Engineer to spot a bad car
A teacher has to be an engineer to teach people how to repair/create/modify cars properly.

Lol. So any fool can be a critic, ehn? I like that.

Let me help you a bit. To be a critic of anything you must know how it ought to work. If you know how it ought to work, then you can teach it too. So a critic IS a teacher and criticism is negative teaching: it is a telling how things ought not to work.

As for qualification, formal education essentially means passage through a widely accepted system of tutelage. But formal education is not the only credible or authentic sort of education. Each field of study began with one person who ventured into the unknown and each field was established by the authentication of experience. Therefore, I can teach Christianity and be an acceptable authority merely on the authentication of experience. If people test out what I teach and it fails to hold up its claims then I have taught false things and can be called to order. If it does hold up, it becomes canon.

Thus, I'm well within my place to teach. And since I am offering something in public space I have subjected myself to proofing.

And you have no leg to stand on to denounce me as a teacher.

ihedinobi2:

Lol. So any fool can be a critic, ehn? I like that.

Let me help you a bit. To be a critic of anything you must know how it ought to work. If you know how it ought to work, then you can teach it too. So a critic IS a teacher and criticism is negative teaching: it is a telling how things ought not to work.

As for qualification, formal education essentially means passage through a widely accepted system of tutelage. But formal education is not the only credible or authentic sort of education. Each field of study began with one person who ventured into the unknown and each field was established by the authentication of experience. Therefore, I can teach Christianity and be an acceptable authority merely on the authentication of experience. If people test out what I teach and it fails to hold up its claims then I have taught false things and can be called to order. If it does hold up, it becomes canon.

Thus, I'm well within my place to teach. And since I am offering something in public space I have subjected myself to proofing.

And you have no leg to stand on to denounce me as a teacher.

Take it easy.

logicboy01:





Take it easy.

Hahahahaha...too much for you to handle. It was just a small explanation to help you.

ihedinobi2:

Hahahahaha...too much for you to handle. It was just a small explanation to help you.

lol......my point was made. I just didnt want to expose you further.

logicboy01:



lol......my point was made. I just didnt want to expose you further.

Right. Whatever makes you happy.

ihedinobi2:

Right. Whatever makes you happy.

Dont stop preaching on my account.

Afterall, zero qualifications never stopped fake preachers from cashing in on the church business

Mynd44 abeg bring my thread back from the islam section ooo!!!

My thread is clearly about an atheist talking about what he has learnt from the islam section.
I clearly stated in the op of that thread that I was addressing it to christians and atheists.


Guy, please do the right thing. I do not want anything to do with that section seeing how some have behaved recently



(sorry to bring this here but it seems here is where people come to get mynd44's attention)

logicboy01:





Dont stop preaching on my account.

Afterall, zero qualifications never stopped fake preachers from cashing in on the church business

Don't quit. Keep trying, bro.

ihedinobi2:

Don't quit. Keep trying, bro.

keep trying what?

logicboy01:



keep trying what?

Whatever it is you hope to accomplish everytime you try to oppose me

ihedinobi2:

Whatever it is you hope to accomplish everytime you try to oppose me

lol....you're not special.

I only challenge your nonsense posts because it is amusing. You, Joshthefirst and Anony are just sport.....

logicboy01:



lol....you're not special.

I only challenge your nonsense posts because it is amusing. You, Joshthefirst and Anony are just sport.....

Right. Like I said, whatever makes you happy.

LESSON TWO AND A HALF...


So Jesus said, "upon this rock I will build my church." In other words, He named a foundation for His Church, for the New Order of Life He was going to bring into being. It makes sense to understand what that rock was in order to understand what Christianity is all about.

What was the rock? Take a thought.

LESSON THREE...


Peter had made a confession just before Jesus made that statement. He had called Jesus the Christ and the Son of The Living God.

"There are gods and lords many...but to us one God" (1 Corinthians 8:5, 6) and this God is the Living One. And that's the God that Peter dared to name a man son to. He did not just say that this man, weirdly powerful maybe but still a man, was the Christ, God's Anointed One, God's Chosen King. He also called Him God's Son.

Of course, the prophecies held that the Christ was the Son of God. But this guy was obviously a man...or, wasn't He?

Try to follow those thoughts for a bit. Note the enormity of Peter's claims. Try to imagine what it would be like to suddenly realize that the man you've been eating and drinking with and hanging out and sailing with is God!

Take a moment and imagine.

I feel disgusted by the way the religion section looks like...
The religion section is getting worse day by day....


As Christians, there is power in unity?
Let's unite together and subdue this freaking atheists, pagans and satanists.

What's ur view of this?
Tags: HumbledbYGrace, Mintayo, emmyskies, malvisguy212, francistony, ukutsgp, alexlo, unibenstudent, prophetudeme, SalC, truthman2012, Goshen360, Rich4god and others........

Macelliot:
I feel disgusted by the way the religion section looks like...
The religion section is getting worse day by day....


As Christians, there is power in unity?
Let's unite together and subdue this freaking atheists, pagans and satanists.

What's ur view of this?
Tags: HumbledbYGrace, Mintayo, emmyskies, malvisguy212, francistony, ukutsgp, alexlo, unibenstudent, prophetudeme, truthman2012, Goshen360, Rich4god and others........

well am a christian who follows yahweh and the teachings of his son yeshua..so all this so called heretics are doomed for abyss,,that's their luck