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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by jairusben(m): 12:21pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
peteofi:what av u manufacture in nigeria..look at ur mouth like without us 1 Like |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by NosaHenry(m): 12:23pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
The basic question is what value has the engineering body added to the Nigerian economy. As far as i can see NON. 1 Like |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by justi4jesu(f): 12:23pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
I have always stood my ground on this "DOCTORS SHOULD BE PAID MOREEEEEEEE""" Whether the masses likes it or not. EBOLA came to Nigeria, Doctors and Nurses are dying, where are the Engineers? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by drobadebayo: 12:23pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
Tbliss12:Bro,u got it twisted. I wasn't accusing u of being lazy,i dunno you. It ll be daft to conclude like that. My point is docs get higher pay during corps because they do more,not necessarily because FG sees them differently. And engineers can mk a whole lot more than doctors provided u mk something good for yourself. Anyone cd be lazy BTW #peace |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by DollyParton1(f): 12:24pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
alotofgrace: Dude don't talk sh11t. MEDICINE IS NOT FIXED. Medicine is very dynamic. God heals? Yes I agree with you, but pls next time u need ur appendix removed just go to God in prayer. 4 Likes |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by baal(m): 12:24pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
Brothers....calm down. I would share my opinion about this at 3 levels, JAMB level, in school, and after school. I am a Mechanical Engineer. 5 yrs on the job. I was born into a medical family, both parents are still practicing Medical doctors, both brothers r medical doctors. So I think I hv sufficient info about the two fields to make a slightly balanced opinion. In my opinion, medicine is overated and engineering is underrated. The fact that medicine has a higher cut off mark during JAMB doesn't make it any more difficult. At that level, you can only compare courses that share the the same required subjects, like med and microbiology, and zoology etc. An average biologyy jamb question takes how long, 5 secs at most to figure out if u know it or not, in physics, u calculate, u think, u check alternative solutions of u hv d time. NUC put those kind of things into consideration before setting cut off marks, and it may not be expexted of a jambite to finish his physics questions. So cut off is generally lower, u can compare Engr to physics, to mathematics, to computer science. To compare it to medicine would be like comparing my rice to ur beans. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by DollyParton1(f): 12:26pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
justi4jesu:Don't mind them o. They will sit down there be talking nonsense. And when a patient dies, they won't say it God that heals, but will be blaming the doctors and nurses for incompetence. 1 Like |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by drobadebayo: 12:26pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
kittykat1:God bless u bro for this input 1 Like |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by baal(m): 12:28pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
I cannot say much for the med school, but mechanical Engr is tough. In my 4th year, we only treated one topic in a course for the whole semester. CONDUCTION under heat and mass transfer. A medical student may read a thousand paged book for the semester. While I studied a Topic. Well..this is subjective and depends on the intellectual level of the individual in question. |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 12:28pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
Op, yes it is not fair but you have to see the big picture. You should be more worried about what happens next after NYSC. I encountered same thing during my service year. Medically inclined courses received at the end of service year a whopping 950k while the Engineers got a token sum of N36,000. 950k:36k (O boy!). Yeah, but we can really say that they are unfair to us. Sentiment apart, these guys spent a lot of money on their education, in terms of acquiring textbooks, medical equipments etc. The lucky ones get scholarships. Not also forgetting that a medical student can spend up to 8 years in the university. So it would not be fair if we receive the same amount during NYSC. But in the long term, an average engineer can earn more than a doctor. What Engineers can advocate for is for the FG to also provide more and better incentives for them, in terms of compulsory accommodation, relevant PPA's, skills acquisition, ICT Training etc. Doctors, pharmacists, SLT are all sent to medical institutions while engineers are sent to class rooms to teach instead of industries where they can acquire relevant practical work experience. Not the government fault though but nobody to push and advance our cause. The engineering bodies are still busy collecting dues. Nevertheless, Doctors should spare us this bullshit of saving lives as if na only dem them dey save lives. Has d increase in the number of doctors, pharmacists reduced the number of deaths, diseases, epidermic, virus, accidents etc, Hell NO!! Even though engineers are sent to schools to teach, FG and SG should also try to appreciate them because they teach students and enlighten them on d best practices so has to stay healthy. When it comes to saving life, everybody has different roles to play- doctors, teachers, engineers, etc. If the FG and SG so much value the Doctors more than us (engineers), why are they refusing to use our clinics nah? At d slightest headache or toothache, they travel abroad even for medical checkups! lols. Doctors, you can only save one life at a time, Engineers save lives. Imagine a building or bridge collapsing and try to anticipate the resulting casualties. If there is an engineering failure, not only lives will be lost; properties inclusive. Now tell me, who saves lives more? It is also a know fact that Engineering is intellectually more challenging than Medicine,...FACT! Medicine requires memorization and cramming while Engineering requires lots of problem solving and proactive analytical thinking (IQ). Most of the medical equipments are designed by engineers. The principles upon which these equipments works have their roots embedded in engineering. In a nut shell, the large sum of money the medical guys are being paid during NYSC is justified. However, the government should also put the engineers too in a comfort zone. It should be a win-win thing. Nobody has to get hurt. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by baal(m): 12:32pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
As for the pay, I think an established engineer who knows his onions is paid better than a doctor would ever be paid. The best a young doctor can be paid is less than 600k, engineers at the same level are better paid |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Olril18(m): 12:32pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
lol..in Nigeria there are only two courses,LAW and MEDICINE....it's not like if the others are rubbish and irrelevant,but society has placed too much relevance on those two. |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by DollyParton1(f): 12:33pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
Felixjude:And what percentage of the engineering graduates earn that 350 to 450k? |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by DrGroove(f): 12:35pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
dridowu: Well said,Comrade! Medicine and surgery remains the highest and most tedious course in the university all over the world.The medical doctor is the "god" humans see on earth. Nigerian doctors are even earning peanuts.... @Op....It amazes me how people go to school,run 5 years,some 4years(poly ),Write semester exams and thrive to have high GPA, graduate and want to compete with medical doctors. So Engineers(others too) should face their field and stop envying the doctors.Becoming a medical doctor is a long journey that affects the individual, his/her family,church, community physically, emotionally, financially, psychologically....... Doctors just have to be favoured above all other professions. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by ocheejemb: 12:35pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
Be realistic son. What have you done with your fresh Engineering degree that you think you deserve the same pay as a trained doctor, who will save lives while putting his on the line. |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Kcinho(m): 12:36pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
Felixjude:Consultants earn more than that |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by justi4jesu(f): 12:36pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
DollyParton1: I wont mind them definitely. ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 12:37pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
Jealousy. Lol ![]() |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 12:37pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
If you wanna earn like a medical doctor, become a medical doctor. 1 Like |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by justi4jesu(f): 12:38pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
slimmy05: lol ![]() ![]() |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nwachiizu(m): 12:39pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
DollyParton1: No doubt Engineers are wealthier than doctors in the end. |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by DollyParton1(f): 12:40pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
nobilis:Chop knuckles jare. Dunno why they just feel like dieing untop health professionals matter. 2 Likes |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by DollyParton1(f): 12:43pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
Olril18:LAW? Really? Don't get us started on Law please. That profession is saturated jor. |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by stpat1(m): 12:43pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
Tbliss12: My guy, I believe that you are feeling this way due to your present state. I tell you, when you are successful in your feed, Nigerian health workers pay will be peanuts to you. As an engineer that is well positioned earns far more than a doctor in the labour market. 1 Like |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Truckpusher(m): 12:44pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
See them, dem go fit do abortion? ![]() How many Nairaland girls will patronise them? ![]() |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by sleinadczar: 12:44pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
Ignoraance is in play here, both are professional courses, but if u must know, hardwork guarantees so much. Its not about who earns higher during service year, its about who gets a job and earn beta after passing out. Carefully review the salary of engineers in these oil and gas sectors and u'll know how comfortable engineers are in their field. Even the salary of a technician wit an OND in an oil sector or an oil servicing firm is enough to mak one eager to be an Engineer. Its about hard work, grace and connection. 1 Like |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by daveemuobo(m): 12:45pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
kittykat1: important observation..They aren't medical students anymore..they are full medical doctors with Full license to practice medicine as well as work experience in a specialst setting.I learnt engineers have their coren license not soon after graduation. when I tackle my engineer friends about small tasks I assume they should handle,they defend themselves saying those tasks should be done by the technicians and not engineers. Nigerian engineers aren't as productive as Nigerian doctors (generally).Even Nigerian engineering students compared to Nigerian medical students. 2 Likes |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by DrGroove(f): 12:45pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
Elantracey:Reason being that Medical Student need a very conducive environment to reside in so that they can concentrate and shouldn't mix up residing with other students who envy,hate them and don't understand why they have to read so often for long periods. Studying to fix human lives and studying to fix non-living objects require different levels of concentration. If a human being dies,that's the end.But if a wire,machine etc spoils,it can always be bought from the market.My parents favoured me over my siblings (Engr n Lawyer ) in every aspect esp Finance and Prayers.I got a larger share of that . 2 Likes |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Sylvarresta(m): 12:47pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
justi4jesu:Help me ask those Olojukokoro(covetous) |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by nepp(f): 12:49pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
Haters gonna hate ![]() Aspiring plastic surgeon 1 Like
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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by DollyParton1(f): 12:49pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
Nwachiizu:Yea, the ones that are lucky enough to get a job that earns that much. But the question is, how many engineering graduates get to work as engineer and earn that much? I know we feel the urge to badmouth doctors sometimes and make them realize that they are just overhyped and they still earn peanuts compared to some engineers, which is true. And really doctors don't care, cos u don't see them opening threads all around complaining about this. But the point is that, an average doctor earns more than an average engineer. 1 Like |
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by justi4jesu(f): 12:49pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
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