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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 1:13pm On Oct 07, 2014
neoapocalypse:

What about agricultural students who feed the nation , the most important of the three basic need of humans. What of geologist , chemist/biochemist , microbiologist or accountants. Stop whining and do your best to improve the nation

Abi. That's why I stated earlier that all profession depends on each other for existence. They talk about health n building and Co. Can they survive without food?
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Navalsadiq(m): 1:14pm On Oct 07, 2014
Yes boss we deserve it.proudly chem engine

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by okotv(m): 1:15pm On Oct 07, 2014
so what about those in the military and security agencies....forget things don't just tally I Nigeria...
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 1:15pm On Oct 07, 2014
slimmy05:
Engineers my foot. Don't even talk about Nigerian Society of Engineers with only paper inventions undecided those lazy bones that can't even produce any inventions.

All this paper based engineers. Make una no make me vex o.My roommate holds BEng degree from Uniport, but na me wet read linguistics dey service our gen angry
lol
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by fidzy(m): 1:15pm On Oct 07, 2014
alotofgrace:


U WRONG THERE!!!
who's machines converted ur herbal drugs to tablets? who designed ur syringe?
get this...medicine is fixed, no creativity........in engineering, we combine the beauty of arts and the Heavenly tool called Mathematics to change things as challenges portray themselves

doctors do nothing, infact GOD HEALS, THE DOC TAKES THE FEE angry

remember...God was first an electrical/engineering....let there be light


..........engineering rules


You are so right....the "let there be light" part got me laughing
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Navalsadiq(m): 1:15pm On Oct 07, 2014
After all we are better than the quack doctOrs our institutions prOduce
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by TonYzeallY(m): 1:15pm On Oct 07, 2014
Op,i don vex,Dos pple need to watch Extreme Engineers on DSTv,how cud dos overated Dogtohs be givn such treats above pple dat build bridges across oceans,aircrafts to unknown planets,hundreds of storey buildngs, submarine under deep waters even d cyrings n beds used in d hospitals...Am a civil Engr,my grand-dad treats wit Herbs,grand-mum a native midwife,funny,they both knw no hospital@72 n 68 respectvly..sTop d ill-treatments on Engrs!
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by redsun(m): 1:17pm On Oct 07, 2014
How can you be respected when in some of the universities that produces different fields of engineers like you,they still use filthy pit toilets, even the ones that have water systems hardly have running to flush them. Electricity nko? Rocket science.

Engineering is about innovative creativity,ingenuity and man made marvels. Until you guys stop relying Chinese labourers to design and build your roads,dams,rails,foot bridges and even houses,you will always remain brainwashed engineers
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Brooke98(f): 1:17pm On Oct 07, 2014
alotofgrace:


U WRONG THERE!!!
who's machines converted ur herbal drugs to tablets? who designed ur syringe?
get this...medicine is fixed, no creativity........in engineering, we combine the beauty of arts and the Heavenly tool called Mathematics to change things as challenges portray themselves

doctors do nothing, infact GOD HEALS, THE DOC TAKES THE FEE angry

remember...God was first an electrical/engineering....let there be light


..........engineering rules
lool@let there be light
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nwachiizu(m): 1:18pm On Oct 07, 2014
InyinyaAgbaOku:


there are more employed doctors than engineers

I don't think so sir. Engineers are everywhere. Doctors are almost restricted to hospitals.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by okotv(m): 1:18pm On Oct 07, 2014
even those in the medical field in the military earn more than there colleague even the front line combatants don't take home that much....the disparity is rverywhere
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 1:18pm On Oct 07, 2014
TonYzeallY:
Op,i don vex,Dos pple need to watch Extreme Engineers on DSTv,how cud dos overated Dogtohs be givn such treats above pple dat build bridges across oceans,aircrafts to unknown planets,hundreds of storey buildngs, submarine under deep waters even d cyrings n beds used in d hospitals...Am a civil Engr,my grand-dad treats wit Herbs,grand-mum a native midwife,funny,they both knw no hospital@72 n 68 respectvly..sTop d ill-treatments on Engrs!
a look this one that can't even use auto cad. undecided Oga, you better go work with site engineer get some real time field experience. tongue
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 1:20pm On Oct 07, 2014
justi4jesu:
I have always stood my ground on this "DOCTORS SHOULD BE PAID MOREEEEEEEE""" Whether the masses likes it or not.


EBOLA came to Nigeria, Doctors and Nurses are dying, where are the Engineers?

All those drugs trial or experimental being manufactured to combat the spread or control it are the doctors responsible for the production?

What happens to the microbiologists and biochemists exposed to these viruses in the lab? Working their ass off day and night to come up with something?

As a doctor have u entered the lab to run tests and culture viruses?

As the doctor u claim to be have u done anything other than the practical and textbook aspect that u were trained to do?

Madam easy. Everyone is relevant As long as we are under the one umbrella SCIENCE
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 1:20pm On Oct 07, 2014
chimoz:
If you wanna earn like a medical doctor, become a medical doctor.

E.O.D
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by victomancer(m): 1:21pm On Oct 07, 2014
please tell them ooo
dridowu:
@op, when medical student are busy reading during/after session , where are engineering student ?
Whe Doctors are busy at work during strike, public holiday and night duty, where are the engineers ?
Where are the engineers when the Docs are using part of their hard earned money to cater for some patients ?
Where are the NSE/COREN , when NMA/NVMA/NMDCN are disucssing the future with govt ?
Where are the engineers when the Docs are been woken up in the middle of the night to attend to their enemies/friends ?
Where are the enginners when the Docs have an accidental injury ?
Where are the engineers when the Docs are giving real bite from relation of the patient that dies ?
Guy, no time for story , just face your work and leave the medical field alone.
Jah Bless
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by idu1(m): 1:21pm On Oct 07, 2014
sophtaf:
Smh@idu1
can u defined that?
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 1:21pm On Oct 07, 2014
Nwachiizu:


I don't think so sir. Engineers are everywhere. Doctors are almost restricted to hospitals.
So what does that mean. That you are more versatile or flexible. Before you even start that work a doctor needs to certify you fit for the job before you would issued employment letter. So relax.

But wait are you also using that title Engr.? You not an engineer you are a learner
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by idu1(m): 1:22pm On Oct 07, 2014
kittykat1:
I am an Engineer and have at least 8 years working experience and I don't agree with the OP.
The Medical corpers already have job experience. From clinical in university and housemanship. He can confidently run a small clinic without any help. Meanwhile the engineer is still a full blown trainee. He is offering essential services meanwhile an Engineer corper isn't.



Op rather than look for equity at NYSC level, why don't you get focused and aim higher. If u work hard and play smart, u can earn six times to ten times what an average doctor of ur level will earn after NYSC. Healthcare is sensitive and Government responsibility, while engineering wages are mainly market and industry sector driven.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by JuanDeDios: 1:22pm On Oct 07, 2014
dridowu:
@op, when medical student are busy reading during/after session , where are engineering student ?
Whe Doctors are busy at work during strike, public holiday and night duty, where are the engineers ?
Where are the engineers when the Docs are using part of their hard earned money to cater for some patients ?
Where are the NSE/COREN , when NMA/NVMA/NMDCN are disucssing the future with govt ?
Where are the engineers when the Docs are been woken up in the middle of the night to attend to their enemies/friends ?
Where are the enginners when the Docs have an accidental injury ?
Where are the engineers when the Docs are giving real bite from relation of the patient that dies ?
Guy, no time for story , just face your work and leave the medical field alone.
Jah Bless
I don't buy the OP's position but your rants don't make sense.

So only doctors get to study hard and spend their own money and do night calls?
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by idu1(m): 1:23pm On Oct 07, 2014
kittykat1:
I am an Engineer and have at least 8 years working experience and I don't agree with the OP.
The Medical corpers already have job experience. From clinical in university and housemanship. He can confidently run a small clinic without any help. Meanwhile the engineer is still a full blown trainee. He is offering essential services meanwhile an Engineer corper isn't.



Op rather than look for equity at NYSC level, why don't you get focused and aim higher. If u work hard and play smart, u can earn six times to ten times what an average doctor of ur level will earn after NYSC. Healthcare is sensitive and Government responsibility, while engineering wages are mainly market and industry sector driven.
u r bold. Can i take u for an E outing?
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by TonYzeallY(m): 1:23pm On Oct 07, 2014
Brooke98:
lool let there be light true talk sha
Eye like dis guys jare...cary go!
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Dedoo(f): 1:24pm On Oct 07, 2014
candygosh:


I totally agree. Every profession has its benefit. It all boils down to the fact that every branch of science depends on each other for sustenance or survival.
The survival of one depends on the other.
Here I do not support any of them. Each branch is big and wide on its own technology, engineering and medicine.

If the engineers build and develop their machineries they need technology for it to function and if the medical experts decides not to use their machines then it's wasted effort. Likewise the medical feed need technology and engineering to function too.

I am not a medical expert but a food science technologist.

If we all begin to argue about what profession is best and is poorly treated we won't reach an agreement cos everyone will stand on their right and not admit defeat. Where do u put food technologists ?

THE HEALTH OF THE WHOLE NATION INCLUDING DOCTORS AND ENGINEERS RESTS IN OUR HAND.
If a food scientist manufactures a food or misses a critical step in the production.its a matter of seconds before the whole nation begins suffering the consequences. Nafdac, son, etc and the food industries is capable of wiping out a nation in a short time. Everyone requires food and that's why food experts (engineers and technologist)

Let's all stop this discrimination, everyone embrace each other cos we all depend on each other for our existence.

Sadly we are in a country that gives room for discrimination. Where one profession is celebrated than the other hence the fights and constant argument

great nifst!
you're absolutely right.

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Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 1:24pm On Oct 07, 2014
candygosh:


All those drugs trial or experimental being manufactured to combat the spread or control it are the doctors responsible for the production?

What happens to the microbiologists and biochemists exposed to these viruses in the lab? Working their ass off day and night to come up with something?

As a doctor have u entered the lab to run tests and culture viruses?

As the doctor u claim to be have u done anything other than the practical and textbook aspect that u were trained to do?

Madam easy. Everyone is relevant As long as we are under the one umbrella SCIENCE
Doctors are three in in one. Microbiologist, biochemist and physiologist/anatomist.

We are talking about Nigeria engineers. What are your inventions. Stop bringing foreign engineers cos they are still here as expatriates. Why your PhD engineering take instructions from technically trained whites who only smoke and dish out instructions.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by lameda07: 1:28pm On Oct 07, 2014
Tbliss12:
All over the world its no more "News" that these two field of career are both professional fields especially when it comes to practicing it in full scale. But its so saddened here in my country (Nigeria) the way Medical Student(Pharmacists,Nurses, Medical Lab Scientist and Doctors) are being given mouth watery treatment on NYSC service ground and the future Engineers are being treated like idiots.

Infact in Benue State where I'm serving Med Guys are paid like 60k @ppa, 30k @state level followed with 3bedroom flats of Doctors quarters(free of charge) nd 19k of allawee compared with an Engineering Student sent to primary or secondary school with 2k@ ppa and just your 19k of allawee with no accommodation even if you had a First Class(B.Eng) in school. With this sad experience I thing the Engineering Bodies in this country (NSE nd COREN) are allowing our government to cheat us big time.

Med Guys make sure life of human is sustained but Engineers make life so comfortable for humans, we are everywhere going great things all around the world...

1. Automobile industry
2. Air-Condition and Refrigeration(Plasma air-con,doing great)
3. Electronics Devices (Mobile Devices,Laptops etc)
4. ICT and Telecommunications
5. Provision of Electricity(even if its still Bad, but Med Guys can't still do d job if not trained Engineers)
6. Biotechnology (Engineering coming into Medicine)
7. Architects, Civil Engineers and Builders
8. AeroNautical Engineers (Aircraft Engineers)
9. Marine Engineers

Just to mention a few now tell me, would you say its fair after all these areas of specialisation we (the upcoming Engineers) should be badly treated?

While the reward of Engineering is on this earth, Medical counterpart get theirs in heaven. Life after NYSC speaks...
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by lusciouslex: 1:29pm On Oct 07, 2014
Jerry Springer's final thought: the medical personnels can be likened to 'men of God'. It's a service to humanity although its highly time consuming. The likes of Bukky George(Health plus pharmaceuticals) made it big time with her business vision unlike some other colleagues in the field.... Engineering can turn a tout into a Boss over night because of some alarming pay they get to receive over night especially in the oil and gas sector. However, most engineers in Nigeria are less innovative but they are very intelligent enough to solve problems, maintain and manage already existing systems. They just fit into the system(blend). They only get so infuriated when their mechanic, electrician, welder, plumber, bricklayer etc equally claim to be an 'engineer'... Am a mechanical engineering planning to invest in the medical field.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 1:29pm On Oct 07, 2014
InyinyaAgbaOku:


And what is stopping them from seeking funds?

Well there isn't a good foundation structured for looking into these problems.if you go outside the country now, there a bodies that help fund and research projects . In medicine there are bodies that help release fund for research n development as week as engineering, agriculture, mining etc.

But in Nigeria, institutions are barely equipped not to talk of funds for research and development.

The so called medical institutions sef are barely equipped. How many of them have got functioning mri machines, radiotherapy equipment etc. I even said functioning they don't even have.

The nation is fu.cked up!
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by TonYzeallY(m): 1:31pm On Oct 07, 2014
slimmy05:
a look this one that can't even use auto cad. undecided Oga, you better go work with site engineer get some real time field experience. tongue
Slimmy05,i like u jare,u no be Engr neither Dogtor,my broda,ur case no be national concern...hehehehe..Animal scientist lasan lasan
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nwachiizu(m): 1:34pm On Oct 07, 2014
slimmy05:
So what does that mean. That you are more versatile or flexible. Before you even start that work a doctor needs to certify you fit for the job before you would issued employment letter. So relax.

But wait are you also using that title Engr.? You not an engineer you are a learner

You guys work pretty hard and spend much studying but the truth is that the only thing you stand to enjoy in the end is the big title. Apart from that I doubt there's any other thing. And that's because of the way Nigeria is.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 1:35pm On Oct 07, 2014
candygosh:


Well there isn't a good foundation structured for looking into these problems.if you go outside the country now, there a bodies that help fund and research projects . In medicine there are bodies that help release fund for research n development as week as engineering, agriculture, mining etc.

But in Nigeria, institutions are barely equipped not to talk of funds for research and development.

The so called medical institutions sef are barely equipped. How many of them have got functioning mri machines, radiotherapy equipment etc. I even said functioning they don't even have.

The nation is fu.cked up!
You're deviating from the topic.
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 1:36pm On Oct 07, 2014
slimmy05:
Doctors are three in in one. Microbiologist, biochemist and physiologist/anatomist.

We are talking about Nigeria engineers. What are your inventions. Stop bringing foreign engineers cos they are still here as expatriates. Why your PhD engineering take instructions from technically trained whites who only smoke and dish out instructions.


Funny. Doctors are three in one lmao.

My dear you need alomo serious one.
Have u ever come across a food microbiologist, or food biochemists. If you haven't go and use Google cos I won't start .

Microbiology and biochemistry is a course on its own not a three in one thing under doctors. Even using doctors in this context is wrong. Medicine is a vast study.

So its entirely wrong to say three in one for doctors.

Are u even a doctor ? Cos u just disgraced ur profession by quoting me to write that jagajaga.

Rethink and re quote. I will be waiting
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 1:37pm On Oct 07, 2014
slimmy05:
You're deviating from the topic.


I will quote u when I read something interesting
Re: The "BIG" Gap Between Engineering And Medical Students! by Nobody: 1:38pm On Oct 07, 2014
alotofgrace:


U WRONG THERE!!!
who's machines converted ur herbal drugs to tablets? who designed ur syringe?
get this...medicine is fixed, no creativity........in engineering, we combine the beauty of arts and the Heavenly tool called Mathematics to change things as challenges portray themselves

doctors do nothing, infact GOD HEALS, THE DOC TAKES THE FEE angry

remember...God was first an electrical/engineering....let there be light


..........engineering rules
Doctors do nothing? Pray never to ve acute urinary retention when no doctor or health personnel is around....you wont repeat that statement.God heals for sure. God is Supreme

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