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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 7:58am On Oct 09, 2014 |
agaugust: A cry for help presented as a threat. "Our friends are unfair to us". Naai-geria the pariah state with no friends shooting itself in the foot. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 10:01am On Oct 09, 2014 |
agaugust:Keep them coming. This further proves SA doesn't need Nigeria,but you need us. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 10:15am On Oct 09, 2014 |
Rubbish military http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/nigeria-boko-haram-torch-185-churches-captured-towns-borno-adamawa-1468763 A prominent Nigerian reverend has revealed Islamist terror group Boko Haram destroyed over 180 churches in the West African country following its capture of towns and villages in the north-eastern states of Borno and Adamawa. Reverend Gideon Obasogie, the director of Catholic Social Communication of Maiduguri Diocese in Borno State, said the group's seizure of territory in both states has seen 185 churches torched and over 190,000 people displaced by their insurgency. In his statement, Obasogie said Boko Haram's "ransacking and torching" of churches had forced priests to leave their homes for two months while displaced civilians were still unable to return to their towns and villages. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:19am On Oct 09, 2014 |
Agaugust, chris369, patches689, MikeZA, greenandgold, naijapikingidi, dievuilt The Uselessness of the SANDF. South Africa’s Arms Deal Toys Rotting October 9, 2014 Weapons acquired during the 1999 arms deal are not being used and are becoming derelict, the Seriti Commission of Inquiry heard on Tuesday [October 7]. “With regards to the 30 Augusta helicopters purchased from Italy, I am informed that many of them are in storage and unused or rotting at Ysterplaat Air Force Base in Cape Town,” arms deal critic Terry Crawford-Browne told the inquiry’s hearings in Pretoria. “Accordingly, I invite the commission’s members to inspect Ysterplaat, to see for themselves how many there are in their state of airworthiness.” He said government acquired four frigates that were reportedly equipped with defective engines and an obsolete combat suite and armoury system. “South Africa acquired three submarines that spend most of the time on the ‘hard’ at Simon’s Town and 50 BAE Hawk and BAE/Saab Gripen fighter aircraft for which the country had almost no pilots to fly them, mechanics to maintain them, or even the money to fuel them. “The arms deal was a confidence trick played at huge socio-economic cost to the people of South Africa, which has seriously undermined our still-fragile constitutional democracy,” said Crawford-Browne. The commission was appointed by President Jacob Zuma three years ago to investigate alleged corruption in the arms procurement deal in 1999. For billions of rands government acquired, among other hardware, 26 Gripen fighter aircraft and 24 Hawk lead-in fighter trainer aircraft for the air force, and frigates and submarines for the navy. Crawford-Browne said former deputy defence minister Nozizwe Madlala-Routledge was told by senior navy officials that the country had bought the wrong equipment. “Ms Madlala-Routledge has by e-mail authorised me to reveal this,” he said. Madlala-Routledge was deputy defence minister from 1999 to April 2004 and deputy health minister from April 2004 to August 2007. Crawford-Browne said billions spent on these purchases could have been used to improve the lives of South Africans. “While millions of South Africans struggle daily with the legacies of apartheid and poverty, these men childishly expounded about their pride in so-called toys for boys and other irrelevances,” he said in his affidavit to the inquiry. “Astonishingly, a purported justification for the acquisition of the BAE Gripen warplanes included protection for the 2010 World Cup.” The inquiry continues. As reported by South African Press Association #bookmarked!!!!!! 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:23am On Oct 09, 2014 |
EroZA: You mean Patches689 and MikeZA. 4 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by arantess: 11:28am On Oct 09, 2014 |
CraigB:kaffir 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:31am On Oct 09, 2014 |
agaugust: O look, no citations again! Show us that we saw the least combat one source will do Until then your post remains a work of fiction |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:32am On Oct 09, 2014 |
agaugust: Still trying to talk yourself out of your hole? Post the source |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:36am On Oct 09, 2014 |
agaugust: again I see no proof that we only did ground attack - show me where it says that And yet again, the stats tell a very different story we were the masters of our trade |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:46am On Oct 09, 2014 |
Henry120: That is the testimony of a vehemently anti-arms deal critic, obviously it is biased as hell He is a filthy pacifist that says even having an army is unconstitutional and that we should disband the SANDF and only have border guards and a coast guard. His opinion is worthless. And he will be exposed under cross-examination. For example he says we have no pilots for the Gripen and Hawks - yet we currently have a total of 60 The other anti-arms deal activists withdrew form the commission because they know that they have no case. Especially after Navy and Airforce officers blew the "wrong equipment" argument out of the water 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ThaVluit: 12:07pm On Oct 09, 2014 |
Henry120: You see, Henry, failing to complete one's research is a dangerous thing. If you'd read further, you'd have decided to sheathe your sword. Crawford-Browne is an anti-arms deal lunatic and evangelist. http://citizen.co.za/254970/terry-crawford-browne-refuses-retract-claims/ “The evidence of General Burger, who is the director of helicopter systems, is that they are frequently used for casualty evacuations. They are also used to train pilots,” Jennifer Caine, for the defence department, said while cross-examining Crawford-Browne at the inquiry’s public hearings in Pretoria. “They have conducted operations in the DRC, Sudan and the Central African Republic. They have flown in excess of 18,000 hours. They have been used in numerous other rescue operations.” They were also being used in anti-rhino-poaching missions. Crawford-Browne said Caine’s details were not relevant to the inquiry’s terms of reference. Caine asked Crawford-Browne whether he was prepared to withdraw a section of his sworn statement which reads: “With regards to the 30 Augusta helicopters purchased from Italy, I am informed that many of them are in storage and unused and/or rotting at Ysterplaat Air Force Base in Cape Town.” Crawford-Browne said he would not retract and urged the commission to inspect the aircraft. “I have not been to the base to verify it myself. It is one point that the commission may take an interest in. I am not prepared to withdraw it.” Caine said Crawford-Browne’s submission was ridiculous. On Tuesday, Crawford-Browne told the inquiry that government acquired four frigates reportedly equipped with defective engines and an obsolete combat suite and armoury system. “South Africa acquired three submarines that spend most of the time on the ‘hard’ at Simon’s Town and 50 BAE Hawk and BAE/Saab Gripen fighter aircraft for which the country had almost no pilots to fly them, mechanics to maintain them, or even the money to fuel them. “The arms deal was a confidence trick played at huge socio-economic cost to the people of South Africa, which has seriously undermined our still-fragile constitutional democracy,” said Crawford-Browne. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:13pm On Oct 09, 2014 |
ThaVluit: Like I said He is going to get wrecked during cross examination. The other anti-arms deals activists at least had the dignity to withdraw once they realized they had no real case with regards to the equipment itself |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ThaVluit: 12:18pm On Oct 09, 2014 |
patches689: Yeah. He's already admitting that he hasn't verified his own 'hear-say' statements and would rather invite the commission to investigate them. Some evidence! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:18pm On Oct 09, 2014 |
patches689: In "Django's" voice : "I like the way you beg boy". This all we've been saying all weeks and months. The SANDF is a clueless force sitting on an array of equipment is cannot afford or even fuel. LOL. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ThaVluit: 12:20pm On Oct 09, 2014 |
Henry120: And you are basing this on the words of someone who's admitted that his statements are baseless? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 12:22pm On Oct 09, 2014 |
arantess: BAN this dude |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:22pm On Oct 09, 2014 |
ThaVluit: I got all the evidence I need, the best part is, I've bookmarked it. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ThaVluit: 12:25pm On Oct 09, 2014 |
Henry120: Then your standards for evidence are low. We've proved that your 'evidence' is not really evidence. Just self-admitted hallucinations. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:25pm On Oct 09, 2014 |
ThaVluit: Yeah, Cry me a river. All he said, we are all aware of. It's only a re-confirmation of known facts. Now go buy some aviation fuel dammit. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ThaVluit: 12:26pm On Oct 09, 2014 |
GreenandGold: No leave him. He dwells in a hell he's created for himself. Let him burn as post after post shows how behind Nigeria is. ![]() |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 12:27pm On Oct 09, 2014 |
agaugust: Dude, you have no where to run to.... the US is blocking you from purchasing weapons anywhere now you want to bite South Africa, the hand that feeds you. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:28pm On Oct 09, 2014 |
ThaVluit: Yeah, wake up and smell the coffee. We already knew/know your SANDF is a cesspit. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ThaVluit: 12:28pm On Oct 09, 2014 |
Henry120: Henry your 'argument' is dead like someone's future grand child (God bless its soul) ![]() That arrests your whole argument. Will you troll now? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 12:30pm On Oct 09, 2014 |
Henry120: Soon you will be out of ammunition, Obama will make sure you don't have any. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ThaVluit: 12:30pm On Oct 09, 2014 |
Henry120: But you have no evidence. So much for "knowing". More like desperately wishing, it seems. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ThaVluit: 12:32pm On Oct 09, 2014 |
GreenandGold: They cried "everywhere we go they block us". It will only get worse once they start messing with companies. Pariah state anyone? They keep talking about China and Russia like they never heard of BRICS. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:32pm On Oct 09, 2014 |
GreenandGold: We've already ordered over 35 helicopters from Russia and belarus. You government would soon start pleading for mercy again, as was the case in the yellow fever. South-Africa has and would continue to be an irrelevant, insignificant country on this continent. Your government in fear has already admitted the $9.5m is legitimate. You're going to get further owned. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 12:33pm On Oct 09, 2014 |
Henry120: Our SANDF just used US$400mil on military drills. So whatever you'll say doesn't count. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ThaVluit: 12:34pm On Oct 09, 2014 |
Henry120: South Africa is the most spoken about country in Nigerian media and parliament right now. #OneSentenceDeath. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 12:35pm On Oct 09, 2014 |
Henry120: Whatever makes you feel better at night in your terrorist infested nation. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:35pm On Oct 09, 2014 |
Henry120: And yet the FACTS tell a different story Or are you pretending that you didn't read the above post which details him getting exposed as a liar? We wracked up 8000 sea hours last year and 18000 on the Augusta Does it sound like we lack fuel? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ThaVluit: 12:37pm On Oct 09, 2014 |
GreenandGold: "Our friends are unfair to us" ![]() "Everywhere we go they block us" ![]() P.A.R.I.A.H. bound if they aren't careful. |
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