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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:03pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:06pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
Patchesagain: Over how many years? And against hundreds of American supplied Stinger anti-aircraft missiles in the hands of Mujahideen against the Hind helicopters. "Engineer Ghaffar of Gulbuddin Hekmatyar's Hezb-i-Islami, brought down the first Hind gunship with a Stinger on September 25, 1986 near Jalalabad. The Central Intelligence Agency eventually supplied nearly 500 Stingers (some sources claim 1,500–2,000) to the Mujahideen in Afghanistan as part of Operation Cyclone with the supply of 250 launchers." If M23 Had AIM-92 Stinger hand held missiles we would have buried all your Rooivalk pilots in Congo DRC in one day . 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:07pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
Patchesagain: Over how many long years of war? And against thousands of American supplied Stinger anti-aircraft missiles in the hands of Mujahideen against the Hind helicopters. "Engineer Ghaffar of Gulbuddin Hekmatyar's Hezb-i-Islami, brought down the first Hind gunship with a Stinger on September 25, 1986 near Jalalabad. The Central Intelligence Agency eventually supplied nearly 500 Stingers (some sources claim 1,500–2,000) to the Mujahideen in Afghanistan as part of Operation Cyclone with the supply of 250 launchers." If M23 Had AIM-92 Stinger hand held missiles we would have buried all your Rooivalk pilots in Congo DRC in one day . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:22pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
Patchesagain: You get dumber and dumber with each post. shot down, by an enemy that had Stinger missiles and other american supplied manpads. 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:30am On Oct 14, 2014 |
agaugust: Smells like you just got owned |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:33am On Oct 14, 2014 |
agaugust: Soviet war in Afghanistan was 10years NATO has been there for just longer than that Rooivalk can defend against the stinger unlike the Hind Anyway that is beside the point, you said a helicopter is a helixopter - I have shown you that it's not. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:35am On Oct 14, 2014 |
Henry120: And so? i know all about the stingers Fact remains: Apache losses: 1 Hind losses: 74 Hind confirmed for terrible attack helicopter Why? Can't hover4shit 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:52am On Oct 14, 2014 |
patches689: You proved nothing ! Mumu ! You did not mention that your claim was in a long war of many years with thousands of American stinger missiles used against the Hind. I showed you that so you can see how poorly you reason. Helicopter is helicopter, they get shpt down easily when air defense is good. The Afghan war Hinds were old version Hinds with no radar warning, laser warning, chaff and flares for counter measures against enemy air defenses. Nigeria is flying the latest and best versions of Hinds and we have all those protection on them, NAF combat helicopters are up to the same standard as the second most powerful country in the world....Russia. Go kiss a frog if envy troubles you...Lady froggie will ease your tensions . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:24am On Oct 14, 2014 |
. [size=16pt]Nigerian army defeating Boko Haram as Africa's Gaint unleashes dreaded military might Soon to set record of fastest defeat of Al-Qaeda/Taliban supported militancy in the world Nigerian army emerging the current best army in the world by achievements As NA destroys Boko Haram's force cohesion using rare world class tactics [/size] . "Boko Haram losing grip DAVID MOLOMO, YOLA Sunday, October 12, 2014 Boko Haram losing grip advertisement - Deserter reveals how leadership vacuum, internal squabble, hunger, desertion by members made Adamawa military exploit possible Indications abound that the Nigerian troops are getting upper hand against the Boko Haram sect. Saturday Sun authoritatively gathered that recent breakthroughs by the Nigerian troops is also informed by the demise of a prominent leader of the insurgents, after the death of Abubakar Shekau at Konduga in Borno State. It is suggested that the weakening of the sect also results from power tussle amongst those who are jostling to lead the gang. The development, which our sources said, has led to internecine squabble even among the rank and file in the Boko Haram camp. It will be recalled that, as a result of the friction, which culminated in the fierce battle within their ranks and the death of over 30 insurgents in the process, succession palaver, is also said to have informed the new development. In the circumstances, it would seem that things have begun to fall apart with the terror group. Coupled with all that is the apparent disenchantment by those that were forcefully recruited. For example, there were hundreds that were recruited in Michika and Madagali localities of Adamawa State. According to one of them who deserted the group recently, they were mostly natives who were used by the insurgents to identify houses of prominent figures in government in the two localities and their environs. Some of the indigenes, who were rescued from captivity during an interaction with Saturday Sun, maintained that the recent military breakthroughs were made possible because the cohesion that once existed within the group has begun to weaken and, therefore, the centre is beginning to bottom out. The recruited natives, who claimed that they were hypnotized by the insurgents toward assisting in dishing out vital information, took the advantage of these recent breakthroughs of the troops to escape to Mubi and Yola, the state capital. Aliu Dauda, one of those that escaped, relayed his experience in the camp to Saturday Sun. He said that many of them that were recruited were did not join on their volition. According to him, they hypnotized, using certain liquid substances. "Most youths in Michika were forcefully recruited to join the gang, first as subsidiary staff. Failure to do their bidding attracted lashes or being shot in the leg or confined in an underground detention camp. "We served as informants and any attempt to give out false information will be punished severely. The fact remains that we were placed under a spell, which made it possible for us to obey them. We discovered that we were doing everything they told us without complaints. "I thank God that I survived and now in the midst of our kinsmen who have helped us to recover from the after effect of our abduction," Dauda enthused. Adding, he said: "Those that forcefully recruited us do not have human feelings. While we were in their midst, we could not resist whatever they told us because a liquid substance was given to us." When asked how he was able to escape, he said that, "first and foremost, there were disagreement and disenchantment between the rank and file of the gang and our supposed leaders. Those of us that were newly recruited five months ago, had to escape when it was apparent that Nigerian troops were having an edge over the Boko Haram sect. "At the stage we were, we weren't given arms and ammunitions but rather our assignments were to give out information and identify locations and targets for destruction. We had not graduated to that stage; those recruited in Konduga and Gwoza were our seniors in the business of killing. We that were forcefully recruited in Gulak, Madagali and Michika, were considered not mature or trained to handle weapons or take charge of ammunition." Dauda disclosed to Saturday Sun that hunger and starvation in the camp of the gang immensely contributed to the breakthroughs recorded by the Nigerian side. "As a result of hunger and starvation, the gang allowed the newly recruited to search everywhere for food. We were given this assignment because we are familiar with the localities. We had no choice but to break into people's houses who are our kinsmen to get raw food. Besides, houses of prominent persons in Michika were taken over by the sect." Army recovers more towns, arms and ammunition In recent times, Nigerian troops' successes over the insurgents have reverberated, especially with the capture of two armoured tanks belonging to the sect. Apart from serious casualty figures recorded by the group, the Nigerian military has also captured a massive armoury with arms and ammunitions belonging to the fleeing terrorists. "The large quantities of weapons recovered in the raid are still being evacuated from the scene of the night raid where several terrorists died," Major General Chris Olukolade, the defence spokesman said recently. He added: "Similar operations took place in coordination with the troops of Multinational Joint Task Force in the raids in other camps located on the outskirts of Duguri, Polkime, Malafatori and other locations around the fringes of Lake Chad." He also revealed that substantial amounts of "money in different currencies and denominations were recovered from the camps, while a total of seven terrorists were captured in the operation." The statement also gave an update on the foiled attack on Giwa Barrack in Maiduguri, Olukolade had said: "Troops conducting cordon and search for remnants of the daring terrorists who attacked Giwa Barracks in Maiduguri, had an encounter with some of the surviving terrorists in the general area of Kayamla and Alu Dam on the outskirts of Maiduguri this morning. More of the terrorists have been killed and arrested in the ongoing encounters. He added that more bodies of fleeing terrorists had been discovered along the routes of their escape. Troops' morale and fighting spirit have been further boosted by the outcome of the operations so far, he said, adding that cordon-and-search as well as patrols and pursuit by air and land were continuing in the entire mission area of Borno, Yobe and Adamawa states. http://odili.net/news/source/2014/oct/12/504.html . 3 Likes
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by overhypedsteve(m): 4:33am On Oct 14, 2014 |
Patchesagain:France didn't lead Afisma or any African interventive force in the continent, they are not a part of it, although they asked for the force to be set up, as they intended to leave Mali in the hands of an African force |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:38am On Oct 14, 2014 |
agaugust:I didn't need to mention the stingers as anyone who is aware of military history is aware of them and as such doesn't need reminding Second, Iraq had one of the most complex air-defence systems in the world. How many Apache were shot down during GW1 and GW2? Third, modern MANPADS such as the latest stinger and the starstreak are largely immune to flares and chaff so those countermeasures don't count for anything- defence against them is through doctrine, and the Hind cannot perform that doctrine as it always has make gun runs on the target and cannot exploit natural cover and low level hovering |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:45am On Oct 14, 2014 |
agaugust: What drivel Boko Haram is not supported by AQ Those tactics are not rare and are somewhat outdated in terms of COIN doctrine The rest is just mindless, poor quality government propaganda Nigeria is no where near the best army in the world by "acheivement" - because you have none |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:47am On Oct 14, 2014 |
overhypedsteve: France just expanded their COIN deployment in North Africa - so they never intended on leaving Furthermore it is plainly obvious that AFISMA is subservient to them - mere "native auxiliarys" |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by overhypedsteve(m): 5:20am On Oct 14, 2014 |
patches689:you cant say that. Afisma deployed little in a theater where France was packing force, afisma deployed mainly to support the French efforts and garrison retaken territories so they had to work with France. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:50am On Oct 14, 2014 |
patches689: [size=14pt] Envy can give you high blood pressure. Butt Hurt ![]() ![]() See South Africa face very weak threats, that are far inferior to Boko Haram ![]() ![]() "A group of South African soldiers was robbed in South Sudan during a peacekeeping mission, the SA Navy said on Thursday. "There was no loss of life, but some of their equipment was taken away from them," Captain Jaco Theunissen told Sapa. He said the troops were on a convoy when they were ambushed on Saturday." http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2014/02/13/sa-soldiers-robbed.-in-south-sudan?filter=all_comments Consequence of almost ZERO war experience and always sitting down in homeland, at ease ![]() ![]() [/size] [img]http://cdn.mg.co.za/crop/content/images/2014/08/28/banguifuneral_landscape.jpg/676x380/[/img] [size=14pt]Meanwhile, this is Nigerian army...[/size] ![]() [size=14pt]Who has the best army in Africa ?[/size] . 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iterator25: 6:52am On Oct 14, 2014 |
can someone post sandf images during battle? or at least, peacekeeping? I've not seen any since we started this thread ... and, no training pictures please! thanks ![]() A Nigerian Army Special Forces commando leads troops out on patrol in the far northeastern frontier district of Baga near the Lake Chad (AFP PHOTO) 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:13am On Oct 14, 2014 |
agaugust: So what do you do when you only a few in numbers and get supprised by a large rebel force? Fighting will only result in your death. Not to menstion UN ROE in dafur prevent the use of force unless your live is in danger. Let's look at those 2 photos. A few hundred young fit solders in a hanger. Some guy holding a AK with one hand like a retard. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:13am On Oct 14, 2014 |
iterator25: Then you have not been looking. At all |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:20am On Oct 14, 2014 |
On the hind. Angola and cuba used both MI24 and MI35s against south africa. They never threatened SA and where shot down again and again. The alouett 3 was harder to shoot down. On france. France never said they where leaving. They scalled down there forces. The african forces do work along side the french and the french are the fist of that force. On nigeria beating BH? Does not proofe a victory or winning of the war. The soviets won battels in Afghanstan and the USA won battels in veitnam. BH can wither and enduer these lossess. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iterator25: 7:22am On Oct 14, 2014 |
andrewza:post one! at least....Sandf in a battle front 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by overhypedsteve(m): 7:24am On Oct 14, 2014 |
agaugust:wow! I love that, you really ask the question well. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 8:07am On Oct 14, 2014 |
iterator25: This one has been posted before. SANDF in the DRC [img]http://www.timeslive.co.za/Feeds/Reuters_Images/2013/08/30/mdf22502-29-08-2013-20-08-25-993.jpg/ALTERNATES/crop_630x400/MDF22502-29-08-2013-20-08-25-993.jpg [/img] |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 8:37am On Oct 14, 2014 |
iterator25: Here some more [img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTkpop9es8VSt6kvyScd-z5U2i5GcdQWgIC1qlgKjHZ_CBJvngwftDxk9c[/img] [img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQPkLgNttCFSL8ohQeND8HmpidqX4AJitvx5hmNBfVLT71dCxOUxbkQDAE[/img] [img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS7MShq-mfDUkq6XjqIbSEnoLskKx-4o5UQ4mOeeddoJDHWHWhGp47efM8W[/img] [img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTjVqrZv9tIU_ubVnKf33A4b1HsLi53IKcPXbaQhO7VT2FXuJtLN23RXGgP[/img] [img]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcROPfxRtLLlJHotHU_Y-I9Dzl_tEUYT3cikNCzJO-3M6Vr-almzxXaSEoHN[/img] [img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTaLXs3X3CzZS5EQYuEFUacrniWnihXhaBidJoKun4crlJcTLKDIBj9wEw4[/img] [img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQNK82RHjxuKm4b3S3TMxh04dK0Dk1KydifiMpF-wOVTv3SIAv1jjyUt6YHHg[/img] [img]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQRDdEm502QsJnD1eUFLu7tjQ-iUAhcjbIiddiSdDVgslGgZ5S3AfyLUdVjUA[/img] [img]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRs6KodH9pFkvnqMeaH4tU_lFZzzHOJ5gEZ_B4DB-JCdyfhQH9OOHw19Hls-A[/img] [img]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQfpiR97T5QFUWYfdNEsxoIV2hVIopkq-EvYt0sGjRV56TLooNUCkdZnI21[/img] All of these are out side of SA |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 8:55am On Oct 14, 2014 |
andrewza: Ouch. In desperation, Aug will now post pictures of dead people to try and scare away all the little children. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 8:57am On Oct 14, 2014 |
agaugust: Wow, so Al Qaeda has built a formidable uprising INSIDE Nigeria's borders. Not much can be said of your ability to protect your sovereignty then. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Helghast: 9:13am On Oct 14, 2014 |
iterator24: Nope I'm not saying that, but I highly doubt its for refuge, |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Helghast: 9:17am On Oct 14, 2014 |
Henry240: Can you provide any sort of evidence to provide to support your claims. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 9:27am On Oct 14, 2014 |
agaugust:The Tanzanian brigadier isn't part of the TPDF battalion. The Tanzanians are our allies and have overtime called for SA help. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 9:30am On Oct 14, 2014 |
Henry120:13 000 DEAD!!!! Your military is failing. There are Nigerian students in SA,that's normal. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Helghast: 9:33am On Oct 14, 2014 |
iterator25:...
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 9:33am On Oct 14, 2014 |
Henry120:which of those countries have experience using helicopters in the "hot and high" conditions found in Africa? It is sad pigeon,YOU SAID!!!!!! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 9:36am On Oct 14, 2014 |
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