macof: Igbodefender stop this rubbish. You think u trying to uplift your ethnicity but you making it open for mockery.

all African groups are related, but our relationship ends somewhere...Igbo are Volta Niger, Bantu are Benue-Congo
the only known link of Igbo with Benue congo people are the Ibibio/ekoi/efik people
words sounding Bantu-like would be found in Igbo land of course, especially those close to the cross river people

All Africans are related regardless that languages can always been linked by small small words to push a silly propaganda.
"yini" "kini" "gini" = zulu/Yoruba/Igbo
Zulu/Yoruba
Kubi/ibi(ubi in some dialects)= evil
Mina/ emi,mi = me

This divulges the sub-conscious motivations of those who are attacking this thread. Please what person without bias will start thinking of "mockery" in when we are having this debate? What I have been trying to say from day one.

Whatever rocks your boat though.

chulla12:
This divulges the sub-conscious motivations of those who are attacking this thread. Please what person without bias will start thinking of "mockery" in when we are having this debate? What I have been trying to say from day one.
Whatever rocks your boat though.

Gbam! There is a reason why this thread has been savagely attacked since day one, and the attackers always be like "stop saying that" but they don't tell us why we shouldn't debate/discuss an issue, only that Western Historians said this and that - we need more concrete reasons. We Igbos - and our friends don't - need Western historians when we have brains to research our own history by ourselves. In the end any statement that doesn't hold water will be defeated, but one that has truth in it will see the truth shine forth. Ndigbo akubago oto. Good work to Ihuomadinihu and others who are really improving on this body of knowledge.

somegirl1:
The emboldened bits can be used to argue that Yoruba is also a bantoid language. Akuko is fowl in Yoruba, and has the "ku rootword".

Ever heard of Princess Moremi and the Igbo aborigins of Ife? According to the history, Moremi and other Yorubas displaced the former Igbo aborigins of Ile Ife. Don't you think that if there were once indigenous Igbos in Ife, that there would be some simmilar Igbo-Yoruba words today as a result of their cultural interaction?

igbodefender: Ever heard of Princess Moremi and the Igbo aborigins of Ife? According to the history, Moremi and other Yorubas displaced the former Igbo aborigins of Ile Ife. Don't you think that if there were once indigenous Igbos in Ife, that there would be some simmilar Igbo-Yoruba words today as a result of their cultural interaction?

This kind of post is very shameful. I know many Igbo who are smart and know even if a little of their history but with people like u jeez .. Smh

if I was Igbo I would be ashamed to be associated with ur igbodefender history bastardising

macof:
This kind of post is very shameful. I know many Igbo who are smart and know even if a little of their history but with people like u jeez .. Smh

if I was Igbo I would be ashamed to be associated with ur igbodefender history bastardising

You're Not Igbo And You've Been Spending So Much Time On This Thread? Wow! So can you speak Igbo? Because without that, I don't know how you will be able to contribute fully to this discussion on Igbo-Bantu language links.

Igbo keep seeking for the truth, one doesn't have to b a genius to notice that Igbo are very different from other Nigerian minus Efik , ibibio , anang and co

@ igbodefender , ever heard about the aro confederacy?

CAMNEWTON4PRES: Igbo keep seeking for the truth, one doesn't have to b a genius to notice that Igbo are very different from other Nigerian minus Efik , ibibio , anang and co
@ igbodefender , ever heard about the aro confederacy?

Yes. They are one of the greatest Igbo political geniuses ever. They are also an example of Igbos and her neighbors living in peace, until enemies began to sow thorns.

It was the British fear of the Aro political influence over the rest of Igboland that led to their destruction of the Aro Long Juju.

The Igbos, like the Greeks, had direct democracy. Like the Greeks they also had a powerful oracle. The Greeks had the Oracle at Delphi and the Igbos had the Long Juju at Aro. Igbo have a proud history; both the known parts and the parts still hidden by our enemies.

igbodefender:
Yes. They are one of the greatest Igbo political geniuses ever. They are also an example of Igbos and her neighbors living in peace, until enemies began to sow thorns.

I guess you know the boundaries of the then confederacy? One should ask why everything Igbo is toward Cameroon -central Africa instead of west Africa , no need to point that unlike the Nigerian tribes I cited earlier others tribes antagonize Igbos

CAMNEWTON4PRES:

I guess you know the boundaries of the then confederacy? One should ask why everything Igbo is toward Cameroon -central Africa instead of west Africa , no need to point that unlike the Nigerian tribes I cited earlier others tribes antagonize Igbos

Igbos have always had a good relationship with our Eastern neighbors and they have always looked up to us as a brother race. But some strategic enemies have decided to spoil the historically good relationship Ndigbo had with many of these people and they have partially succeeded, but the Ibibios, Efiks and others remain our staunch allies.

igbodefender: Igbos have always had a good relationship with our Eastern neighbors and they have always looked up to us as a brother race. But some strategic enemies have decided to spoil the historically good relationship Ndigbo had with many of these people and they have partially succeeded, but the Ibibios, Efiks and others remain our staunch allies.

Gbam , tho I believe you guys are more than allies , you share a comon ancestry

CAMNEWTON4PRES:

Gbam , tho I believe you guys are more than allies , you share a comon ancestry

You not Igbo, Sir? Well judging from your contributions it's clear Igbos have some staunch friends/allies here. I'm humbled.

On the issue of common ancestry, the Igbos and these other Eastern groups have mixed peacefully for thousands of years. For instance, the Aros are Igbo+Efik-Ibibio ancestry. The Opobo people are of Igbo+ Ijaw ancestry. There are so many other examples.

If you look at someone like Asari Dokubo, an Ijaw nationalist, he boasts about his part Igbo ancestry.

The Igbos don't try to dominate their neighbors, they interact as equals.

igbodefender: You not Igbo, Sir? Well judging from your contributions it's clear Igbos have some staunch friends/allies here. I'm humbled.

I'm from cameroun
And I believe Igbo are a Bantu clan

igbodefender: You're Not Igbo And You've Been Spending So Much Time On This Thread? Wow! So can you speak Igbo? Because without that, I don't know how you will be able to contribute fully to this discussion on Igbo-Bantu language links.

What's against a non-igbo inputting?? I don't speak speak Igbo but I no foul when I see one.


If I only spend an hour trying to learn phrases from Bantu regions, I would see a lot of Yoruba-Bantu links.
There are links between all sub-Saharan Africans, stretching towards the Sahel and Nile valley
But than doesn't mean we must bring up ridiculous propagandas to attach to other ethnic groups by force.

even those around the cross river aren't claiming bantu links like you are.

Am only trying to find truths not silly propaganda

macof:
If I only spend an hour trying to learn phrases from Bantu regions, I would see a lot of Yoruba-Bantu links.

@ Macof,
Please do; and if you find any Yoruba-Bantu links, by all means post them here because all Africans are one and we should all encourage each other to be active in research, not swallowing hook, line and sinker what some colonial masters force-fed us.

Let us research on similar Igbo-Luo words. We could learn something interesting there.

macof:
This kind of post is very shameful. I know many Igbo who are smart and know even if a little of their history but with people like u jeez .. Smh

if I was Igbo I would be ashamed to be associated with ur igbodefender history bastardising

Thank you. I keep saying it, and it's as if these people and their supporters are too dense to comprehend the vile and BS they spew. It irks me the way they just blatantly spit on the history, oral traditions, and culture of the very same peoples they claim to so proudly represent. It irks me to no end that I really just want to see their organization shut down.

ChinenyeN:

Thank you. I keep saying it, and it's as if these people and their supporters are too dense to comprehend the vile and BS they spew. It irks me the way they just blatantly spit on the history, oral traditions, and culture of the very same peoples they claim to so proudly represent. It irks me to no end that I really just want to see their organization shut down.

Emotional stuff but in the market of ideas shutting down others is reactionary and futile. If you believe you have a superior position put it forward and compete in the market.Indeed that is a responsibility you have to your convictions

I don't believe I know you, but if you like, you could attempt to ask to understand why I am irked as opposed to whatever this is that you have posted as a response.

macof:

What's against a non-igbo inputting?? I don't speak speak Igbo but I no foul when I see one.


If I only spend an hour trying to learn phrases from Bantu regions, I would see a lot of Yoruba-Bantu links.
There are links between all sub-Saharan Africans, stretching towards the Sahel and Nile valley
But than doesn't mean we must bring up ridiculous propagandas to attach to other ethnic groups by force.

even those around the cross river aren't claiming bantu links like you are.

Am only trying to find truths not silly propaganda

Lol,are we still on this? Seriously,your inputs and constant monitoring would have been appreciated if this was a 'Yoruba are Proto Bantu thread considering your in existent knowledge of igbo language. Why do you dismiss a personal effort when you have no verified fact and counter-opinion of your own. I don't work for Igbo-defender but some of the issues he raised here are questions that i try to find answers to. I believe that people's works and efforts should be respected until you have enough reason and evidence to trash them. If you have a contrary opinion,just share it.

iwonbaoko: Emotional stuff but in the market of ideas shutting down others is reactionary and futile. If you believe you have a superior position put it forward and compete in the market.Indeed that is a responsibility you have to your convictions

Gbam

ChinenyeN: I don't believe I know you, but if you like, you could attempt to ask to understand why I am irked as opposed to whatever this is that you have posted as a response.

Do you believe you know anyone here ? Really? This is a market of ideas .When we go to the market do we really know each other,is that why we go to market. You seem quite intolerant of dissent and that is why I made my observations.I have not expressed an opinion on your opinions but feel strongly about ANY form of censorship. Let everyone air their views however insane.It is the job of the "sane" to refute the "insane". What makes you think you don't irk others ? So what?

As I already stated, attempt to understand why I'm irked. Don't start playing anti-censorship activist on an open forum, especially since this isn't an issue of censorship. If you believe it is, then you're grossly mistaken and quite honestly have no idea what my 'opinion' even is to begin with. So, I'll state again: attempt to understand. If your next post to me is only used to hurl words then I'll ignore you, because you'll only be showing me that you have no intention to understand. I won't waste my time, if that's the case.

ChinenyeN: As I already stated, attempt to understand why I'm irked. Don't start playing anti-censorship activist on an open forum, especially since this isn't an issue of censorship. If you believe it is, then you're grossly mistaken and quite honestly have no idea what my 'opinion' even is to begin with. So, I'll state again: attempt to understand. If your next post to me is only used to hurl words then I'll ignore you, because you'll only be showing me that you have no intention to understand. I won't waste my time, if that's the case.

Guy I already said all I have to say in my very first post clearly you do not agree with me and I respect that.Part of my reason for making comments is just not for you but as a matter of public record as some people say "where one thing stands another must too" Regarding your choice of words ; Playing activist,hurling words, if you dont do x y z "i will ignore you" and the first time "I don't believe I know you" etc . They are funny and childish ,did I ask for your hand in marriage? You come across as arrogant ,condescending and narcissistic. Why should I give a flying fart about your being "irked" read my lips "I don't give a rat's ass" about your emotional state
I have said ALL that I have to say in my first post and everything else is self-indulgence.

iwonbaoko: Guy I already said all I have to say in my very first post clearly you do not agree with me and I respect that.Part of my reason for making comments is just not for you but as a matter of public record as some people say "where one thing stands another must too" Regarding your choice of words ; Playing activist,hurling words, if you dont do x y z "i will ignore you" and the first time "I don't believe I know you" etc . They are funny and childish ,did I ask for your hand in marriage? You come across as arrogant ,condescending and narcissistic. Why should I give a flying fart about your being "irked" read my lips "I don't give a rat's ass" about your emotional state
I have said ALL that I have to say in my first post and everything else is self-indulgence.

Gbam.

The shocking quote below shows how the fellow ChinenyeN views the Igbo race. Can we trust the imputs of such a person that thinks so lowly of our ethnic group? See the abominable post below.

ChinenyeN:

"Igbo" is the product of European conceptualization.

Source: [url]https://www.nairaland.com/1083307/igbo-tribe-nation
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ChinenyeN:
Chileke Ohna... you Igbodefender people are foolishly dense. It irks me.

I doubt there were igbo or any of the tribes in west African today 3000- 5000 years ago.

Mwenyi:


I doubt there were igbo or any of the tribes in west African today 3000- 5000 years ago.

Are you saying West Africa was empty of people 3000 - 5000 years ago? Or are saying whoever was there at that time couldn't have been the direct ancestors of the people living there today?