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Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by Nobody: 2:51pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
Women working for Facebook and Apple are being offered an additional perk: they can have their eggs frozen. Facebook has been offering the service for its employees in the US since the start of this year. Apple will follow suit from January 2015.http://www.bbc.com/news/business-29626291 My Opinion: This world is really turning into something else. I hope women advocacy groups will stand up and fight this insult to womanhood and motherhood. It started in Facebook and Apple. Who knows maybe in the next decade, Nigerian corporations will be promoting same stupid idea. I guess such women who agree to this obnoxious policy are big-time fools that they will enslave themselves only to work for a "cool" brand. Who says women have to choose between parenting and having a job? How about investing in better (cheaper) childcare support instead? Do you really want to work for a company that wants 70 hours work a week from you and then also interferes with your private life?? So in other words these companies recognise that young, healthy, energetic women in the prime of their lives will be much more productive for them without the distraction of babies. Once they are over the hill and have already sacrificed their best years to the company then it's fine to get pregnant as they are not worth as much by then. Just because the eggs are frozen does not reduce the risks involved having a baby later in life. Instead why not offer better benefits to their workers who have children rather than asking them to put having a family on hold. Flexible hours or even help towards childcare would be a better option and would probably be more attractive than this egg freezing idea. Being a parent is the hardest and most important job we will ever have, you have got to really really want it. If you feel your job for a multinational is more important job that's definitely not a good sign. Maybe I'm cynical or is this some Orwellian concept aimed at getting higher profits for bloated capitalists? What a sad place we live in now where profits take precedence over procreation and bringing up the future generation. Modern days of Noah and Lot!!! 73 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by pickabeau1: 3:14pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
I agree with your opinion Work life balance is important 8 Likes |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by coogar: 3:17pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
welcome to the 21st century. as usual, the capitalist slaves would jump at this singing kumbaya. 23 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by TV01(m): 3:29pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
coogar: Leave them. The quality of a womans eggs can start to deteriorate as early as 26 and early menopause can happen from 32. It's the older 35+ ones who will be taking this offer up - erroneously thinking this a good thing & that it extends their "marriageable shelf lives". In the end, it won't make them more attractive to men - the key to that has, and always will be youth and beauty. Thinking about it, they'd be best served freezing their faces ! TV 10 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by crackhaus: 3:32pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
Just for the fact that a woman is a woman and that a man is a man, there can never be equality in certain things...and if there's no total equality in all things, then that leaves us with total inequality. Positive(+) + Negative(-) = Negative(-) 5 Likes |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by MizMyColi(f): 3:44pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
Okay, I don't know much about gender equality and honestly, I could care less. But from what I've just read up there, bar the OP's personal opinion: I have to point this out that, that perk has very greedy and selfish underlying motives. I know some people will allude/agree to this, but tbh, if this practice is adopted by the majority, a time will come when it'll become a social trend to not have a child until you're forty, a time will come when the idea of marriage would be utterly useless, where working class women will look down on other working class women who have chosen to give priority to both their work and husband/family as "less". Honestly? I fear for this kind of future. Call me old-fashioned, IDC. But then, in our pursuit of life's vanities, let's not forget the things that matter most, let's not relegate them to the background where they may never see the light of day. 44 Likes 15 Shares |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by coogar: 3:47pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
TV01: 14 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by Tallesty1(m): 3:48pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
This has nothing to do with recruiting. This is about not wanting to employ women with children or women who want to have children in their prime. These companies want employes to put the company first, and you can't do that with kids. I bet you they will keep track of the female employees who use the benefit and the ones who don't. The latter group won't last in the company long. Sad thing is, the joke is on the women who do take advantage of it. When they hit age 40+ and decide to have kids, Apple and Facebook, especially Facebook, will let them go for being too old, too rigid, too out dated, and too expensive. SO now they can have their babies, but won't have a job. And will have to raise a kid facing age discrimination for the next 18+ years.(lajollachemist comment on yahoo) 10 Likes |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by BABE3: 4:23pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
....and smart companies have started milking the equality situation. Which man will put up with a 40 yr old woman with frozen eggs when there are fresh and naturally fertile 18 yr olds littered everywhere........ 55 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by pickabeau1: 4:51pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
TV01: damn....... coogar ur gif is epic MzMyColi Whats the deal with marriage Are u not aware that th institution is dying gradually Why the nostalgia |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by naturally: 5:16pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
This is Serious. Extract and keep ke? What if it gets missing or contaminated? Guys really need to interview and Investigate their gf/fiancée well o 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by Nobody: 5:19pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
Why are guys always hyperventilating anytime a topic to better d life of women are raised? Why d fear? Some hv started talking down on d ladies who will take advantage of d package already. Again why d fear? I remembered when d famous KK said she want to freeze her egg so whats d big deal. Its their life,their choice,their world. U guys r in ur world,let them be biko! Lots of female celebs froze their eggs. Science has made a lot of things easy for mankind. If at d end d female workers found out d dis outways d ad, they can protest or lobby. At least its done in a civilized nation not african jungle where u leave ur work, ur papa name, ur everything to become a sit at home mom whose daily bread solely depends on d husband. Haba! Infact, ive been reading so many whinning threads from guys lately, so i ask again, why r u guys shifting on ur seats? Family section is no longer fun. People whining here and there. 43 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by pickabeau1: 5:23pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
moca im not sure you understood the OP He is saying rather than companies freezing eggs for female employees, they should make it easier for women to combine work and family together. or are you reacting to something else .. 15 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by Nobody: 5:49pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
I'm lost ooo. What's the point exactly? Na wa oooo... |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by damiso(f): 5:50pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
I don't know why work life balance or flexible working is not seen as the preferred option. Not too sure about this though I want to believe its a voluntary perk.It would be grounds for discrimination if you were forced /or coerced into it employment lawyers in the Uk esp would have a field day so I want to believe you can choose not to take it up.But like mzmy coil said it would eventually lead to those women who decided to have kids earlier being seen as less productive. 2 Likes |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by Nobody: 6:07pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
TV01: I see, it bothers you. @bold Thousands of women marry in their late 30s and their 40s and even later in the West. 21 Likes |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by damiso(f): 6:07pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
Moca I don't think there is anything wrong with freezing your eggs (if you want to).But I do feel like the women advocacy group have stated that by making it a company policy or 'perk' it's passing a subliminal message that you can't have a career and children at the same time.I think having a work life balance e,g onsite crèches, flexible working job sharing options etc is a better way to make life easier for women of childbearing age who maybe might not want to delay childbearing till later. Why not just increase your medical insurance coverage in totality and then if you like freeze your eggs, get a bossom job,get a vasectomy whatever.But to put it out there that your medical insurance now covers freezing your eggs is passing a subliminal message that I am not too comfortable with.Deciding to have children or putting it off till later should be a personal decision.Without even making it a company policy or perk some women who are very career driven might delay childbirth or decide not to even have children at all as they might feel they would be unable to deal with it all at the same time. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by Nobody: 6:08pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
moca: It is not easy for some men to survive in the civilized world. They are strong as long as women are weak. The time women become strong, their weakness is fully displayed. 24 Likes |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by Nobody: 6:13pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
MizMyColi: A failed attempt to sound "cool". If you don't care, at least give credit to the females that fought for your right to "not care". 25 Likes |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by bukatyne(f): 6:15pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
carefreewannabe: LOL! Today is my day biko 6 Likes |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by Nobody: 6:18pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
bukatyne: I know I have already sang a song, made a cupcake and lighted a candle and prayed for your wish and dreams to come true. And your dress in the picture was beautiful. You are in good shape. I hope you got some nice presents. |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by bukatyne(f): 6:20pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
carefreewannabe: I saw them and appreciated I don't want my hubby to leave me for size zero Yea, from hubby and team. Got a dressing mirror from hubby 1 Like |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by Nobody: 6:23pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
bukatyne: I am sure he wouldn't leave you for a size zero. My baby doesn't like size zero at all. Mirror mirror on the wall who is the prettiest of all? |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by bukatyne(f): 6:25pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
carefreewannabe: Lol @ the rhyme 1 Like |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by MizMyColi(f): 6:42pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
Ilekere: Excuse me, what are you saying now How does admitting my ignorance and asserting my unwillingness to learn about Gender Equality imply attempting to sound cool Owh, if you care to know, I applaud and actually commit my resources when I can to those women and men who fight and speak for Mutual Respect among people of all genders, race, orientation, belief and unbelief. If what they do remotely implies gender equality, then so be it. I stand to be corrected but: Gender Equality Seriously!? Hmm (Sigh) Well, I'd rather keep mute. Quote me again if you wish, just don't consider my ignoring you or the other extreme as being discourteous. Good Evening 11 Likes |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by philantoxx(m): 7:03pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
in case |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by chlowi(f): 8:12pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
carefreewannabe: True 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by Nobody: 10:04pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
pickabeau1:Ok, maybe i didnt digest it well but my anger was how u guys jumped to condemn d act. Here used to be fun. Lots of people have left bc of this my group their group thing i see here. Everybody used to hv one voice,even if u r against a post u state it and not attacking d poster. Sincerely speaking, its no longer fun here. Even people hardly bring up issues here cos of attack. We need to change. Nobody(except few) knew anybody here and so why cant all be friends and argue constructively most times? I thought we are all adults. But i hear u o 7 Likes |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by Nobody: 10:08pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
damiso: Nne, i get u gan gan |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by damiso(f): 10:09pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
moca: Ok nne |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by aderonila18: 10:14pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
There's nothing wrong with the idea as long as the women are not pressured into it. It gives women who want to focus on career first and have children later a good option. Modern science has been helping women have children later and later and still guarantee that the children are born perfect, it reduces the pressure on women to marry just another and have kids when they are not ready just because the clock is ticking. 16 Likes |
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by pickabeau1: 10:25pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
moca: Lol....Now u r doing exactly what u are trying to speak against You self admittedly did not read the post but went on attack mode The post is about companies helping women freeze their eggs so they can work now and have children later I feel a better alternative is for companies to support women in balancing family and career. A lady like you MzMyColi made a comment highlighting the possible discrimination those who juggle career and family will face from those who froze eggs if this practice becomes institutionalised in d career world. No one condemned the act. A more family suitable option was proposed. So let's all take time to post on the issue at hand rather than on some perceived notion that people attack people. I believe we are all adults...don't you 4 Likes |
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