Henry120:


So it requires a lawsuit for the people of south-africa to know your military personnel deployed on foreign mission lack basic equipments, like tents.

WOW........ Just WOW!!!!!

So for more important equipments you obviously lack, how would people know?

Dude.

ARMSCOR provides camp support (tents, phones, feild kitchens etc)

SANDF is responsible for moving weapons and military equipment.

We do not lack military equipment in the DRC, and are better equipped for the task than your own men in Nigeria.

MikeZA:
1. SA soldiers have tents.

2. Gripens are flown.

4. That article is written by someone,who used outdated information from newspapers. NO investigation whatsoever.

You don't have tents in the DRC, your defence minister revealed this information, only after a law suit was filed against her.

Your defence minister confirms your military is in a pathetic state of decline.

The article is written based on the facts that are already available to the general public, including quotes from your defence minister.

You're just too blind to see the facts.

patches689:


And all those sources are from similar authors with a simular agenda or veiw point, ironically, all of which have been posted by you (who also has the same agenda and veiwpoint).

We have tents - no where does it say that the SANDF lacks them.

We have aviation fuel - as cited by numerous sources

We maintain and operate all of our equipment - as cited by numerous sources

She said it is in a critical state of decline, from a high standard to a lower one.

Again, you post stuff, expect us to take it as the word of god and then stick your fingers in your ears and shout "LA-LA-LA-LA" when we post counter sources.

It shows how low you have to stoop to try to win points in this debate.

Going emotional again, who are you going to quote next?"........... mikeza?


So, I now have an agenda against the SANDF? LOL...... what agenda is that?

You lack tents, confirmed by a lawsuit.

You lack aviation fuel confirmed by multiple sources.

You military is in a pathetic state, you procured equipments you can't operate. Maintain or fuel.

Your old SADF(90% of them now in australia) was a more potent force. The SANDF since it was formed has shown itself to be a spineless, poorly trained, poorly equipped, poorly motivated military. The SANDF has never had a high standard. The KDF and UPDF are by far more potent forces than the SANDF.

I post the articles as they represent your pathetic military. Go dance around with your ghanaian friends in nairaland, you obviously prefer their lies to the truth.

Henry120:


You should start from providing tents to your poorly equipped troops in the DRC.

You guys live in a fantasy land. How do you manage to live in a delusional state.

Impressive.

Pictorial evidence provided.

patches689:


Tents were delivered. And our troops in DRC are better equipped than your troops inside of Nigeria.

Again, you are making a mountain out of a mole-hill. It was a logistical SNAFU that is all.

Good lord, you are the one in the fantasy land

The SANDF is a poorly equipped force. The Nigerian army is better equipped for any operation than the SANDF, fact.

We have more helicopters,
More artillery
More MBTs
More personnel
More general systems.

Again, go provide tents for your poor troops in the DRC.

Henry120:


You don't have tents in the DRC, your defence minister revealed this information, only after a law suit was filed against her.

Your defence minister confirms your military is in a pathetic state of decline.

The article is written based on the facts that are already available to the general public, including quotes from your defence minister.

You're just too blind to see the facts.

Yes,written based on information from newspapers.

MikeZA:
Pictorial evidence provided.

6-7 tents for an over 1000 SANDF personnel.

Wow, how impressive.

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Mukina, mukina2, please ban this individual.

patches689:


Dude.

ARMSCOR provides camp support (tents, phones, feild kitchens etc)

SANDF is responsible for moving weapons and military equipment.

We do not lack military equipment in the DRC, and are better equipped for the task than your own men in Nigeria.

According to the article, dated, 16-10-2014, SANDF personnel lacks basic items such as tents in the DRC.

Try something else

You were, are and never would be better equipped than the Nigerian military

patches689:


DRC, and are better equipped for the task than your own men in Nigeria.

Having another breakdown, I see.

MikeZA:
Yes,written based on information from newspapers.

And how many times have you posts source from newspaper.

Henry120:


Mukina, mukina2, please ban this individual.

He and so many others here are quite disgusting. Sucking the fun off this MILITARY THREAD.

Naija

thymedcurry:


He and so many others here are quite disgusting. Sucking the fun off this MILITARY THREAD.

It's a problem we usually face in this thread.

some s0uth african5 smoke weed

South Africa’s Military Arms Troubles
October 16, 2014 - Uncategorized - African Military, South Africa

The South African National Defence Force (SANDF) is drowning in a sea of mismanagement, corruption, political manipulation and strategic myopia.

While this state of affairs will probably not result in an imminent ‘attack’ on the Union Buildings, as was the case in 2009 when justifiably angry rank-and-file soldiers protested over conditions of service, the ongoing fallout is much worse.

It’s hard to know where to begin but let’s start with the basics. Section 200(1) of the Constitution states that, “the defence force must be structured and managed as a disciplined military force”. If we take the standard dictionary definition of discipline to mean “the practice of training people to obey rules or a code of behaviour, using punishment to correct disobedience”, then it is clear that those who are in charge of structuring and managing the SANDF are in serious breach of its core constitutional imperative.

There is a litany of such ‘indiscipline’. Despite a mountain of evidence stemming from the 1990’s arms deal detailing gross mismanagement and corruption involving SANDF and Department of Defence (DOD) officials as well as senior politicians, hardly any of those responsible have been held to even the most minimal of disciplinary standards.

The ongoing official investigation into the arms deal – the Seriti Commission – is turning out to be more of a whitewash than a clean-up. As has become the standard practice of SANDF and DOD officials as well as associated politicians, the main agenda of the Seriti Commission appears to be to ensure that the myriad ‘indisciplines’ are shielded from any meaningful democratic scrutiny and action.

When the SANDF deployed over 1000 soldiers to the DRC in June 2013 the generals and politicians spoke glowingly about the professionalism of South Africa’s defence forces and their contribution to ‘peace-keeping’ in Africa[b] but did not tell us that the soldiers lacked some of the most basic equipment. It was only through an associated court case later that the Minister of Defence was forced to admit that “our soldiers do not have tents … ”.[/b]

While the rank-and-file soldiers in conflict zones were being treated like 2nd class citizens, SANDF head honcho, Lt. General Solly Shoke spent over R100 000 of taxpayers money flying 1st class to a conference in Malaysia earlier this year.

The DOD has brazenly cast a veil of secrecy over its recent attempts to buy a new luxury VIP jet (no prize for guessing who the beneficiaries are) worth almost R2 billion. When parliamentary questions were asked, Defence Secretary Dr Sam Gulube noted that the matter was a “sensitive project” (read: classified) because it had been conveniently shifted to a ‘Strategic Capital Acquisition Master Plan’ project list, no doubt a secret itself. Public knowledge about a SANDF deal for purchasing over 200 armoured infantry vehicles worth close to R15 billion was zilch until the actions of some brave whistleblowers.


When opposition parliamentarians recently asked Defence Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula for further details of the SANDF acquisition projects she refused, stating that the information does not belong in the public domain. Not to be outdone in the secrecy stakes, Defence Secretary Gulube told parliament’s defence committee that any attempts to enforce greater scrutiny of the government’s arms procurement programmes would be a threat to national security.

All of this has to be set against the backdrop of the 2014 Defence Force Review which has been approved by the Cabinet and is now making its way through parliament’s labyrinthine corridors.

Despite receiving R42 billion in the 2014/15 budget and untold billions more continuing to be spent on the 1990s arms deal and on other acquisition projects that we know little to nothing about, the Review unequivocally acknowledges that the SANDF is in a “critical state of decline”. It lists a host of serious problems and crises:

The escalating costs associated with the purchase, use and maintenance of the 1990s arms deal programme has resulted in a majority of the fighter planes, helicopters, training jets and naval vessels purchased being mothballed. Those that are in use suffer from chronic under-use and a lack of technical/ maintenance personnel and trained pilots.

Spares, general equipment, ammunition stocks and fuel reserves are “generally depleted”. One instructive example of the resultant impact is that South Africa now has “little airspace or maritime domain awareness” (read: the SANDF can hardly track who and what is in South African airspace and waters).

Nearly 55% of the overall budget is spent on personnel costs, even though SANDF rank-and-file earn relatively little. Despite increased personnel spending, there is a massive shortage of competent personnel at all levels and those with scarce and professional skills are leaving at “concerning rates”.

Practical training and exercises have been cut to the bone such that the SANDF is unable to “execute [its] widening spectrum of tasks” while medical care to SANDF personnel is in a generalised state of crisis .

The SANDF suffers from “fragmented management and information systems [that] inhibit integrated and systemic decision making”.

Predictably though, the Review’s solution to these systemic crises of decision-making, strategic planning and human and financial management is to throw more money into the SANDF pit in order for it to carry out its “constitutional requirements”.

Those “requirements” are interpreted as revolving largely around a military “strategic posture” defined by the “the role that it wishes to play both regionally and continentally”. In other words not, as the actual Constitution states, “to defend and protect the Republic its territorial integrity and its people… ” but to satisfy a politically constructed and elite centred ‘need’ to play big brother in Africa.


We should all take the words of Andrew Feinstein, that fearless exposer and critic of the South African and global arms trade, to heart. He warns us that this ‘shadow world’ “often makes us poorer, not richer, less not more safe and governed not in our own interests but for the benefit of a small, self-serving elite, seemingly above the law, protected by the secrecy of national security and accountable to no one.”

Before it is too late, South Africans need to not only actively demand accountability for past ‘indisciplines’ and abuse of public funds and trust but ensure that our military forces and projects focus on what they are supposed to do – to serve and answer to, the people.

NIGERIA AND BOKO-HARAM AGREE ON TRUCE

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LMAO!!!

Who's negotiating with terrorist now, worst thing is that It these terrorist bleeped most of you Civilians and Soldiers!!

Wow here's the great defeat Augbu and Henry promised us?!

Helghast:
NIGERIA AND BOKO-HARAM AGREE ON TRUCE

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LMAO!!!

Who's negotiating with terrorist now, worst thing is that It these terrorist bleeped most of you Civilians and Soldiers!!

Wow here's the great defeat Augbu and Henry promised us?!

Simply because, we want the safe release of the girls without harm.

The U.S is currently negotiating with the taliban

The south-african government also negotiated with the ANC terrorists.

Nothing new. The operation to rid the north-east off terrorists would continue after the safe release of the girls.

iconize:

even whipped like ret_arded animals in their fatherland.

.We're still to post your history. we're still dealing with todays Nigeria

Nigeria 2014

Discrimination Against Nigerians In Nigeria
www.nairaland.com/77338/discrimination-against-nigerians-nigeria




Chinese Expats Treat Nigerian Employees As Punching Bags

A Nigerian policeman holds an umbrella over a Chinese expat

www.nairaland.com/attachments/552194_China_in_Afrika_0_jpgb957255b2a72a3f626390c5718c2205d

Maaji Meriga
By SaharaReporters, New York
The Chinese kick Nigerian workers on the testicles when they are not submissive.

If you are a Nigerian working for the Chinese, you are at risk of losing your private parts, says Maaji Meriga, after he practically lost the use of his manhood while working to construct railway tracks in Abuja, Nigeria’s capital, for the China Civil Engineering Construction Corporation (CCECC), a major overseas interest of the Chinese government.



http://saharareporters.com/report/chinese-expats-treat-nigerian-employees-punching-bags

poor naai-gerian slave got his azz whipped by his chinco master
www.nairaland.com/attachments/552193_Maaji_Meriga_jpg45d541167aa0868730418c620c412109



How Germans Abuse Nigerian Workers, On Nigerian Soil
www.nairaland.com/695042/how-germans-abuse-nigerian-workers


We’re treated like slaves but we’re afraid of losing our
jobs –Nigerians in Chinese, Indian companies

http://www.punchng.com/news/nigerians-who-work-in-chinese-indian-lebanese-companies-were-treated-like-slaves-but-were-afraid-of-losing-our-jobs/

Derailment, I just want to share these photos.

The Turkish T-129 AH "ATAK" helicopter. Beautiful helicopter based on the Mangusta

Henry120:


Simply because, we want the safe release of the girls without harm.

The U.S is currently negotiating with the taliban

The south-african government also negotiated with the ANC terrorists.

Nothing new. The operation to rid the north-east off terrorists would continue after the safe release of the girls.

Oh wow now that Nigeria is doing it, it suddenly becomes acceptable, wow you guys a the biggest bunch of Hypocrites to ever walk on the surface of this planet, its pathetic.