The Nigerian government thinks homosexuality and lesbianism is insanity and offensive to the Nigerian society and subsequently, declared it illegal, with a jail term of 14 years imposed as punishment to deterrents.

On the other hand, the catholic Vaticans thinks otherwise. They opine that gays has something to offer the church.

Is being a gay moral to you?
Who's right?

Please share your opinion

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Ajibam:
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Ajibam:
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Oh! If all sins are equal in the sight of God, I don't see any reason why some would be condoned and others will be punished.

Mind you, your so-called God own country legalised prostitution.

19 Oct 2014

Catholic Church Bishops Drop Historic Move To Accept Gays
Roman Catholic bishops on Saturday reversed a historic acceptance of gays, dropping parts of a controversial document that had talked more positively of homosexuals than ever before in Church history.


The document, issued at the end of a two-week assembly, or synod, of some 200 Roman Catholic bishops from around the world, pointed to deep divisions within the Church on issues such as reaching out to homosexuals and Catholics who have divorced and re-married in civil services.

After an initial draft was released on Monday, conservative bishops vowed to change the language on gays, cohabitation and re-marriage, saying it had created confusion among the faithful and threatened to undermine the traditional family.

Gay rights groups expressed deep disappointment with the final version, while the conservative Catholic blog Rorate Caeli hailed it as "a considerable setback for the revolutionaries".

The two-paragraph section of the final document dealing with homosexuals was titled "Pastoral attention towards persons with homosexual orientations". The previous, three-paragraph version had been called "Welcoming homosexuals."

The earlier version spoke of "accepting and valuing their (homosexuals') intimate orientations" and giving gays "a welcoming home". The final version eliminated those phrases and most of the other language that church progressives and gay rights groups had hailed as a breakthrough.

The new version used more vague, general language, repeating earlier church statements that gays "should be welcomed with respect and sensitivity" and that discrimination against gays "is to be avoided".

Gays disappointed

Francis DeBernardo, executive director of New Ways Ministry, a Catholic gay rights group in the States, said it was "very disappointing that the synod's final report did not retain the gracious welcome to lesbian and gay people that the draft of the report included".

"Instead, the bishops have taken a narrow view of pastoral care by defining it simply as opposition to marriage for same-gender couples," he said.

The final version stressed that "there is no foundation whatsoever" to compare homosexual marriage to heterosexual marriage, calling heterosexual marriage "God's plan for matrimony and the family".

The earlier version said the church should acknowledge that couples in same-sex relations offered "mutual aid" and "precious support" for each other in times of difficulty.

"People who found hope in the respectful, welcoming tone of the midterm report will be crushed by the removal of that language in the final document. It's just gone, replaced with the same off-putting phrases we've heard for decades," said Marianne Duddy-Burke of DignityUSA, a Catholic gay rights group.

Voting counts released by the Vatican showed that controversial articles, including the final version of one of the two on gays, failed to get the two-thirds majority needed for a consensus.

This indicated that progressive bishops may have voted against them because they felt the language had become too restrictive or watered down.

Vatican spokesman Lombardi said the entire document would now serve for further reflection among Catholics ahead of another, definitive synod next year.

In his final address to the gathering, Francis, who had called on the bishops to speak their minds frankly, said he would have been "worried and saddened" if there had not been such heated, honest discussion during the gathering.

The pope also warned against both "hostile rigidity" by traditionalists as well as "destructive good will" by progressives who wanted change at any cost

https://www.nairaland.com/1956516/catholic-church-bishops-drop-move

not condoning homosexuality but most of the vociferous proponents of nigeria's gay laws are chronic fornicators and adulterers!!! if foprnicators and adulterers are not jailed why should homosexuals be jailed?

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chukwudi44:
not condoning homosexuality but most of the vociferous proponents of nigeria's gay laws are chronic fornicators and adulterers!!! if foprnicators and adulterers are not jailed why should homosexuals be jailed?

chukwudi44:
not condoning homosexuality but most of the vociferous proponents of nigeria's gay laws are chronic fornicators and adulterers!!! if foprnicators and adulterers are not jailed why should homosexuals be jailed?

Good argument. I just hope your pentecostal brethren can use their brains on this issue....

chukwudi44:
not condoning homosexuality but most of the vociferous proponents of nigeria's gay laws are chronic fornicators and adulterers!!! if foprnicators and adulterers are not jailed why should homosexuals be jailed?

Don't you know about extremity?
Stealing is wrong but there are some extreme stealing that you can be jailed for, when you are stealing money from your mum's pulse, shey government prosecute you? But if you rob bank and you are caught, won't you be jailed? What about 1st degree murder and other degrees?
So, that's it.. Though sin is sin, but morally some sin are unthinkable, they are senseless and full of incest! That's how homosexuality looks like..

chukwudi44:
not condoning homosexuality but most of the vociferous proponents of nigeria's gay laws are chronic fornicators and adulterers!!! if foprnicators and adulterers are not jailed why should homosexuals be jailed?

You have a point there bro.
But;
Homosexuality should be anathema
Never to be mentioned in the church of Christ.

Ajibam:

Don't you know about extremity?
Stealing is wrong but there are some extreme stealing that you can be jailed for, when you are stealing money from your mum's pulse, shey government prosecute you? But if you rob bank and you are caught, won't you be jailed? What about 1st degree murder and other degrees?
So, that's it.. Though sin is sin, but morally some sin are unthinkable, they are senseless and full of incest! That's how homosexuality looks like..

STEALING IS WRONG BECAUSE IT AFFECTS AN INNOCENT THIRD PARTY!!! CAN YOU TELL ME WHOSSE RIGHTS IS INFRINGED WHEN TWO CONSENTING ADULTS DECIDES TO ENJOY THEMSELVES IN THE PRIVACY OF THEIR ROOMS?

Trailblazer1:


You have a point there bro.
But;
Homosexuality should be anathema
Never to be mentioned in the church of Christ.

WAS I NOT MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE? WHAT ABOUT SOME PROTESTANT CHURCHES THAT HAVE ALREAD LEGALISED THE PRACTICE? REMOVE THE LOG IN YOUR OWN EYES THEN YOU WILL SEE CLEARLY TO REMOVE THE PEEBBLES IN THE CATHOLIC EYES

chukwudi44:
19 Oct 2014

Catholic Church Bishops Drop Historic Move To Accept Gays
Roman Catholic bishops on Saturday reversed a historic acceptance of gays, dropping parts of a controversial document that had talked more positively of homosexuals than ever before in Church history.


The document, issued at the end of a two-week assembly, or synod, of some 200 Roman Catholic bishops from around the world, pointed to deep divisions within the Church on issues such as reaching out to homosexuals and Catholics who have divorced and re-married in civil services.

After an initial draft was released on Monday, conservative bishops vowed to change the language on gays, cohabitation and re-marriage, saying it had created confusion among the faithful and threatened to undermine the traditional family.

Gay rights groups expressed deep disappointment with the final version, while the conservative Catholic blog Rorate Caeli hailed it as "a considerable setback for the revolutionaries".

The two-paragraph section of the final document dealing with homosexuals was titled "Pastoral attention towards persons with homosexual orientations". The previous, three-paragraph version had been called "Welcoming homosexuals."

The earlier version spoke of "accepting and valuing their (homosexuals') intimate orientations" and giving gays "a welcoming home". The final version eliminated those phrases and most of the other language that church progressives and gay rights groups had hailed as a breakthrough.

The new version used more vague, general language, repeating earlier church statements that gays "should be welcomed with respect and sensitivity" and that discrimination against gays "is to be avoided".

Gays disappointed

Francis DeBernardo, executive director of New Ways Ministry, a Catholic gay rights group in the States, said it was "very disappointing that the synod's final report did not retain the gracious welcome to lesbian and gay people that the draft of the report included".

"Instead, the bishops have taken a narrow view of pastoral care by defining it simply as opposition to marriage for same-gender couples," he said.

The final version stressed that "there is no foundation whatsoever" to compare homosexual marriage to heterosexual marriage, calling heterosexual marriage "God's plan for matrimony and the family".

The earlier version said the church should acknowledge that couples in same-sex relations offered "mutual aid" and "precious support" for each other in times of difficulty.

"People who found hope in the respectful, welcoming tone of the midterm report will be crushed by the removal of that language in the final document. It's just gone, replaced with the same off-putting phrases we've heard for decades," said Marianne Duddy-Burke of DignityUSA, a Catholic gay rights group.

Voting counts released by the Vatican showed that controversial articles, including the final version of one of the two on gays, failed to get the two-thirds majority needed for a consensus.

This indicated that progressive bishops may have voted against them because they felt the language had become too restrictive or watered down.

Vatican spokesman Lombardi said the entire document would now serve for further reflection among Catholics ahead of another, definitive synod next year.

In his final address to the gathering, Francis, who had called on the bishops to speak their minds frankly, said he would have been "worried and saddened" if there had not been such heated, honest discussion during the gathering.

The pope also warned against both "hostile rigidity" by traditionalists as well as "destructive good will" by progressives who wanted change at any cost

https://www.nairaland.com/1956516/catholic-church-bishops-drop-move

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You framed it!
Olé!

chukwudi44:
not condoning homosexuality but most of the vociferous proponents of nigeria's gay laws are chronic fornicators and adulterers!!! if foprnicators and adulterers are not jailed why should homosexuals be jailed?

are u trying to support homosexual? When did your life degenerate into this?

Nigerian government is even lenient. If i was the president, they would go expressly to life imprisonment.

chukwudi44:


WAS I NOT MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE? WHAT ABOUT SOME PROTESTANT CHURCHES THAT HAVE ALREAD LEGALISED THE PRACTICE? REMOVE THE LOG IN YOUR OWN EYES THEN YOU WILL SEE CLEARLY TO REMOVE THE PEEBBLES IN THE CATHOLIC EYES

Source?

chukwudi44:


STEALING IS WRONG BECAUSE IT AFFECTS AN INNOCENT THIRD PARTY!!! CAN YOU TELL ME WHOSSE RIGHTS IS INFRINGED WHEN TWO CONSENTING ADULTS DECIDES TO ENJOY THEMSELVES IN THE PRIVACY OF THEIR ROOMS?

do u want to pollute and bring curses into our land? U are really so dumb for vomitting such nonsense.

Ukutsgp:
are u trying to support homosexual? When did your life degenerate into this?

You've forgotten they follow their pope's rules and guidance than the word of Christ Jesus Himself!
So don't blame him!

chukwudi44:


WAS I NOT MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE? WHAT ABOUT SOME PROTESTANT CHURCHES THAT HAVE ALREAD LEGALISED THE PRACTICE? REMOVE THE LOG IN YOUR OWN EYES THEN YOU WILL SEE CLEARLY TO REMOVE THE PEEBBLES IN THE CATHOLIC EYES

where do you get that from? Catholic is really a disgrace to christendom. They should just stop calling themselves 'church'

Ajibam:

You've forgotten they follow their pope's rules and guidance than the word of Christ Jesus Himself!
So don't blame him!

who gave their so called pope the impudence to be amending scriptures to suit their immoral lifestyles. Oh! They think their dump tradition is the bible? I pity their ass. Gush!

Ajibam:

You've forgotten they follow their pope's rules and guidance than the word of Christ Jesus Himself!
So don't blame him!

who gave their so called pope the impudence to be amending scriptures to suit their immoral lifestyles. Oh! They think their dump tradition is the bible? I pity their ass.

chukwudi44:


STEALING IS WRONG BECAUSE IT AFFECTS AN INNOCENT THIRD PARTY!!! CAN YOU TELL ME WHOSSE RIGHTS IS INFRINGED WHEN TWO CONSENTING ADULTS DECIDES TO ENJOY THEMSELVES IN THE PRIVACY OF THEIR ROOMS?

In gay relationship, the ladies right are deprived!
In lesbian relationship, the guys right are deprived!!

Even to both relationships, the right of children to be procreated is deprived.. You won't have been alive spewing rubbish now if your mum was busy with a nun and your dad was equally busy with a Catholic priest having sex in a room, when they ought to mate to bring you to planet earth..

chukwudi44:


WAS I NOT MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE? WHAT ABOUT SOME PROTESTANT CHURCHES THAT HAVE ALREAD LEGALISED THE PRACTICE? REMOVE THE LOG IN YOUR OWN EYES THEN YOU WILL SEE CLEARLY TO REMOVE THE PEEBBLES IN THE CATHOLIC EYES

I'm sorry for trying to remove the pebbles in the Catholics eyes. Please, continue with your homosexuality.

Ukutsgp:
who gave their so called pope the impudence to be amending scriptures to suit their immoral lifestyles. Oh! They think their dump tradition is the bible? I pity their ass. Gush!

Keep deceiving yourself silly hypocrite.

What's the difference between them and your cheating Oyakhilome.

What's the difference between them and your Okotie that derives joy in divorcing.

What's the difference between them are your tithe thieves.

Lord have mercy on you all.

Why not arrest them?. Remove the log of wood in your eye, then you'd be able to see a speck in someone's own.

Hypocrisy101

FrancisTony:


Keep deceiving yourself silly hypocrite.

What's the difference between them and your cheating Oyakhilome.

What's the difference between them and your Okotie that derives joy in divorcing.

What's the difference between them are your tithe thieves.

Lord have mercy on you all.

Why not arrest them?. Remove the log of wood in your eye, then you'd be able to see a speck in someone's own.

Hypocrisy101

but u know that the popes are people laden with iniquity. I thank God that u know who your popes are.

The ban on homosexuality is just going to ruin a lot of lives...and increase the hiv/aids pandemic in nigeria...
when you think you can control a lgbt individual you force them into acting out roles that aren't their own sexual preference....in the end you have a marriage where either one doesn't reflect the love and/or cheats... with one of his/her own true sexual preference....increasing the spread of stds'...
and in the end you have a society where religion has painted everyone into a corner......

Ajibam:

Your post has no link!
You framed it!
Olé!

If only u use Google u won't be here to advertise your ignorance

chukwudi44:


If only u use Google u won't be here to advertise your ignorance

Be wise and grow up.. Plagiarist!
Thief!
Am I the original poster?
You really need to grow up.. You must be under 18 with this level of reasoning!

Ajibam:

Be wise and grow up.. Plagiarist!
Thief!
Am I the original poster?
You really need to grow up.. You must be under 18 with this level of reasoning!

Ode I never claimed to be the author of dat write up

Ukutsgp:
but u know that the popes are people laden with iniquity. I thank God that u know who your popes are.

Just like pentecostal pastors are iniquities themselves

FrancisTony:


Keep deceiving yourself silly hypocrite.

What's the difference between them and your cheating Oyakhilome.

What's the difference between them and your Okotie that derives joy in divorcing.

What's the difference between them are your tithe thieves.

Lord have mercy on you all.

Why not arrest them?. Remove the log of wood in your eye, then you'd be able to see a speck in someone's own.

Hypocrisy101

You de mind the jobless mofo.