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Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by etenyong(m): 6:11pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
A Bill for an Act to abolish and prohibit dichotomy and discrimination between University’s degrees and the Higher National Diploma in the same profession and field, scaled the second reading on the floor of theSsenate on Wednesday. The bill, sponsored by the member representing Ondo Central Senatorial District, Ayo Akinyelure, specifically seeks to end the ongoing controversy over wage disparity and gross discrimination against HND holders in the public and private sectors. He said, “The aftermath of continuing injustices, disparity and discrimination meted to products of polytechnics in Nigeria is threatening to derail the nation’s core policy thrust of evolving a technological and scientifically based, self-reliant society in the nearest future. “As I speak, thousands of would-be polytechnic and technology students are contemplating or have decided to opt for university education, because of perceived and real discrimination against HND graduates. “If this contemplation occurs, there is bound to be a vacuum created in our labour market in this regard, and dire consequences are bound to follow this trend. “Over the years, several entreaties have been put forth to the Federal Civil Service authorities to put a stop to certain glaring wage disparities and discrimination against the HND holders, and all these have been to no avail.” He said to make matters worse, certain federal parastatals were known to openly discriminate against HND holders to the extent of limiting their progress within the hierarchy of such government bodies. “To all intents and purposes, a government employment policy that places degree holders ahead of HND holders without recourse to skill and ability of the HND holder thereof, does more harm than good to the nation’s development,” he added. Akinyelure, who is also the Chairman, Senate Committee on Ethics, Privileges and Public Petitions, further argued that empirical evidence had shown that polytechnic graduates of accountancy, engineering and some other professional curses are better on the job than their university counterparts. Senators, who contributed to the debate, noted that the issue of dichotomy between the two certificates could only be addressed if the curriculum of polytechnics was improved upon and ensure that it was rich enough to award degrees. www.punchng.com/news/degreehnd-dichotomy-bill-passes-second-reading-in-senate/ 1 Like |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by Nobody: 6:13pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
A step in the right direction..they should also stop the dichotomy btw bsc degrees and Msc holders too... Infact they should decree that all manner of degrees in nigeria must be equal.... 1 Like |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by morefire: 6:14pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
Cutehector4u: haba but are they equal |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by Nobody: 6:15pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
morefire:same question u should be askin urself abt OND, ND, HND... |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by morefire: 6:21pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
Cutehector4u: wait is OND now equal BSC |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by Nobody: 6:23pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
morefire:dat is what ur distinguished house of reps are tryn to do... |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by morefire: 6:24pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
etenyong: food when sweet na money kill am... we have bn dragging this matter since i was a kid now am a man nothing me i have sha learnt not to send any of my kids for HND |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by morefire: 6:27pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
Cutehector4u: I tire for ds country Poly is never the same as UNI even the qualification to enter is different so i made over 260 in jamb you made 160 I got BSC you got HND now you say you want to collect same position oya now lets make Nigeria MBA and foreign MBA the same too now hissssssssss 4 Likes |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by Nobody: 6:31pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
morefire: |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by politricks: 6:47pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
How many times are we going to trash this issue?.All i know is polytecnic can never be the same as the highest institution of learning(university). |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by Toyozzie(f): 7:24pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
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Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by tempem: 7:24pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
politricks:Alright...... And that doesn't make Hnd holders poor fellow... I think what we are all fighting for is success, and ones someone is successful irrespective of where he graduated from, the grand mark has been fixed then. |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by NnamdiN: 9:53pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
morefire:egocentric Africans. Typical even person wey graduate with pass go come they form superiority( didn't say you did o) ![]() Does your bsc being equal to hnd affect your life in any way? Live and let live brother. 1 Like |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by rattlesnake(m): 10:11pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
In this case they should declare real braest n silicone are EQUAL....mastectomy ![]() Infact all Virgins are now equal....both secondary, primary,immaculate and Tertiary |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by kestolove95(m): 10:14pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
all dix hnd e-rats,if u want degree go to university...shikena |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by Nobody: 10:25pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
Good 1.... Now deer would b equal criterias for entry into uni and and HND .... Honestly some poly students r far beta dan uni student's .... 1 Like |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by mcfarlin(m): 10:27pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
tempem: [size=30]YAWNS!!![/size] This line of success or no success is getting boring When university students start hustlin' to get direct entry admission into polytechnics then talks can start on having a level ground Till then University is the highest institution for learning |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by joelreg(m): 10:44pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
Na today ![]() ![]() I dey look |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by MevsU(m): 12:16am On Oct 23, 2014 |
A confused nation |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by tempem: 3:46am On Oct 23, 2014 |
mcfarlin:Alright! |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by Ukutsgp(m): 6:50am On Oct 23, 2014 |
hnd graduates are more practical oriented than university graduates. it should be equal. |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by pendusky(m): 6:54am On Oct 23, 2014 |
morefire: did you get the news well? BTW post ur Jamb Result as evidence and stop whining so we believe you! from the news I heard The house want the system to get the same standard point of entry requirement to stop the disparity! |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by eightsin(m): 7:18am On Oct 23, 2014 |
Cutehector4u: |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by Nobody: 8:40am On Oct 23, 2014 |
sexyexcalibur:Obviously, you ain't one of them with your awesome command of English ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by Nobody: 8:40am On Oct 23, 2014 |
sexyexcalibur: |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by Nobody: 8:41am On Oct 23, 2014 |
Senators, who contributed to the debate, noted that the issue of dichotomy between the two certificates could only be addressed if the curriculum of polytechnics was improved upon and ensure that it was rich enough to award degrees. Then why HND in the first place, if BSC curriculum will = HND curriculum. They better scrap HND or re-visit the objectives of Polytechnics education. Polytechnics (national knowledge) education in any part of the world is designed to manpower/skill development (skill-based education) to meet the national economy objectives while University (universal knowledge) education is designed to produce high level managerial individuals (knowledge based education). So with the educational designed, HND graduates will always do better doing the work while BSC will always excel in planning for and managing the work. That HND graduates are highly skill and can perform better than BSC on the field does not translate that their qualifications should be equal. SUMMARY HND = skill and practical oriented BSC = knowledge and theory oriented Both education can not be equal but limiting the progression cadre for promotion to higher grade levels (above GL14/GL12) can be abolished but not the curriculum. And any education outside 6-3-3-4 (4 = University Education where BSc, MSc and PhD are awarded) is consider to be a remedial education (e.g. technical college, college of education, mono/polytechnic, etc) |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by sheddo619(m): 8:52am On Oct 23, 2014 |
Am an ND student Currently doing my SIWES at a Construction company,I was greatly dismay when our supervisor ask a 400l student of a nigerian institution the mix ratio of concrete without being given the answer ,again he was given a tape to read a certain measurement which he was still not able to read, seriously speaking there are courses that are best done in the polythecnic sector. |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by Johans(m): 9:31am On Oct 23, 2014 |
This is not the first time we have seen such news. Even when enacted, The dichotomy can only be effective when there is egalitarism in the mode of entry into universities and polytechnics. As it is now, polytechnics in Nigeria are widely perceived as dumping grounds for students who performed poorly in Jamb with scores ranging from 150 to 179, where as some universities even reject those with jamb scores ranging from 200+ due to high competitions during entries. Point is, entries should be based on equal grounds and polytechnics should be upgraded with equal resources and facilities as universities before HND can be successfully compared with BSC. But wait a minute, if polytechnics equals universities then there should be no such thing as 'polytechnics' just universities. Most importantly, all fingers ain't equal, it's a law of nature that some things be considered superior than others... *Runs out of thread before HND holders crucify me* 1 Like |
Re: Senate Set To Abolish Degree/hnd Dichotomy by Nobody: 9:48pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
Paroman: Lol .. funny u ..... der den auto correct fixed it to deer. . ..... am a doctor (check my previous posts) ... n I v paid my dues wen it comes to education... I like using shorthand instead of writing formally on social forums and wen am chatting... so, u having a petty B.science holds nothing on ma MBBS ... so get a life |
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