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Re: HELP: I Have Just Been Told That My Fiance Is Married! How Can I Validate This by armyofone(m): 7:43pm On Oct 23, 2014
What is the guy's name and DOB ?
Please add his fav food, any birthmark etc
Willing to help a sistah validation issue.
Re: HELP: I Have Just Been Told That My Fiance Is Married! How Can I Validate This by otunbateekay(m): 7:50pm On Oct 23, 2014
op...you said he was not responsive when you asked him.

That's a red flag Right there.

Secondly why would you want to enquire from the wife or ex wife?

its pointless.

please...walk away, my 50 cents.
Re: HELP: I Have Just Been Told That My Fiance Is Married! How Can I Validate This by bellong: 7:58pm On Oct 23, 2014
Why are you looking for his ex-wife?

What if the poor lady is trying hard to leave his memory behind her? It wouldn't be nice and appropriate of you to reawake a forgotten nightmare of hers.

There's nothing you need to hear from her. It makes no logical sense quizzing her. Leave her out totally of your quest.

Knowing some deep things do not always require the celestial or supernatural. Paying attention to details is enough to unravel secret things and prevent future dilemma.

If he is working in Nigeria, I don't think our tax system is sophisticated enough to be claiming incentives for wife and children. So, he has no basis to falsify that info.

If the record was an error, what stopped him from discussing it with you when you raised it? If he is doing this, how will he be handling conflicts if/when you eventually marry?

The decision is yours. You know what you want but in your quest, please leave the lady out of it. Whatever anyone will or already advised you, you have no business with the lady nor she with you.

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Re: HELP: I Have Just Been Told That My Fiance Is Married! How Can I Validate This by duwop: 8:21pm On Oct 23, 2014
I already wrote above that I have met his dad and uncle and friends. His dad absolutely adores me but his mom passed away 11 years ago. His uncle is a lagos socialite and always invites me and bf out to events all d time.
I think d more pertinent point here is learning how to communicate and work on issues and settng up a solid foundation. So I see what u r saying in dat regard.
chaircover:


There is really no point bothering yourself looking for information
He is the one who should be giving you that information without you even having to ask him
Even if you end up marrying him, how will you both communicate important issues?
As for tracking down the other woman . . . .why would you want to do something like that? Dont put yourself that low. She may have moved on, besides, it wont change anything and if your fiance wont tell you anything, then why should she?

I know that breakups are hard, but if you were to be honest to yourself, the odds arent looking too good and you cant really build anything substantial on such a shaky foundation

Have you met these parents that were so against the other lady? do they like you? or he hasnt bothere introducing you to them. How do you even know that he is telling you the truth about the "no family engagement" . . you were not there so you dont even know if thats the truth


Re: HELP: I Have Just Been Told That My Fiance Is Married! How Can I Validate This by duwop: 8:25pm On Oct 23, 2014
Logical points. Taken.
bellong:
Why are you looking for his ex-wife?

What if the poor lady is trying hard to leave his memory behind her? It wouldn't be nice and appropriate of you to reawake a forgotten nightmare of hers.

There's nothing you need to hear from her. It makes no logical sense quizzing her. Leave her out totally of your quest.

Knowing some deep things do not always require the celestial or supernatural. Paying attention to details is enough to unravel secret things and prevent future dilemma.

If he is working in Nigeria, I don't think our tax system is sophisticated enough to be claiming incentives for wife and children. So, he has no basis to falsify that info.

If the record was an error, what stopped him from discussing it with you when you raised it? If he is doing this, how will he be handling conflicts if/when you eventually marry?

The decision is yours. You know what you want but in your quest, please leave the lady out of it. Whatever anyone will or already advised you, you have no business with the lady nor she with you.
Re: HELP: I Have Just Been Told That My Fiance Is Married! How Can I Validate This by duwop: 8:27pm On Oct 23, 2014
Yea u r right. Just a lil tough as I am only human. But I am working on it.
otunbateekay:
op...you said he was not responsive when you asked him.

That's a red flag Right there.

Secondly why would you want to enquire from the wife or ex wife?

its pointless.

please...walk away, my 50 cents.

Re: HELP: I Have Just Been Told That My Fiance Is Married! How Can I Validate This by duwop: 8:30pm On Oct 23, 2014
Lmao! I actually found dis hilarious!!!
aisha2:


Leave her to be doing James Bond. She asked the man himself when he shoukd be rolling on the floor begging for forgiveness and blurting out explanations sensible and insensible the man didnt even feel she deserved a response na nairalanders she want make we teach her james bond. Shebi na me wan help her get company file find the man wife number?

Later when she has ignored all this and married him they will fill nairaland with pity parties scaring younger ones off marriage.
Re: HELP: I Have Just Been Told That My Fiance Is Married! How Can I Validate This by kenny987(f): 11:56pm On Oct 23, 2014
Kai! But some ppl sef! No more respect for marriage n traditional rites. How can a man go n perform trad rites n marry a woman when his family is totally against it? if he was so sure he was making d right choice why is he nw looking for anoda lady to marry? When we don't honour our parents who've walked dis earth b4 us, dis is d kind of mess dat happens.

@op: Since he can't even be honest n come clean or make urgent moves to clear d air if it's a mistake, I think u should gently pack ya load and ensure ur legs hit d back of ur head while u scram!
Re: HELP: I Have Just Been Told That My Fiance Is Married! How Can I Validate This by duwop: 12:07am On Oct 24, 2014
Hmmmm well tthought out advice. News reaching me now is that it was n error as there r two people with d same name in the company. The other is an older guy n his married. But we plan to discuss over d weekend. I ll decide after d talk. Thanks for d pep talk.
kenny987:
Kai! But some ppl sef! No more respect for marriage n traditional rites. How can a man go n perform trad rites n marry a woman when his family is totally against it? if he was so sure he was making d right choice why is he nw looking for anoda lady to marry? When we don't honour our parents who've walked dis earth b4 us, dis is d kind of mess dat happens.

@op: Since he can't even be honest n come clean or make urgent moves to clear d air if it's a mistake, I think u should gently pack ya load and ensure ur legs hit d back of ur head while u scram!
Re: HELP: I Have Just Been Told That My Fiance Is Married! How Can I Validate This by shutdown(m): 12:43am On Oct 24, 2014
duwop:
Hello guys,

I ll appreciate no bashing pls as this is a delicate issue. I feel really broken already. So I have been dating this guy long distance for almost 2yrs...he is based in Abuja while I am based in Lagos..he is very quiet, and I have met his friends, father and uncle (his mom is late and his siblings are far away-abroad).
We have started discussing tying the knot so my family commenced on a background check and we found outthat he is married based on HR records at his company (a bank). However, truth be told, he did tell me he had a trado marriage(engagement) which none of his family members attended cos they did not approve of the girl...but they lived together and she walked away some months after.
I am not sure if this HR record means he actually had a real wedding/court (which would mean he is still married but his wife is no longer with him) or if it means he considered d traditional marriage a real marriage even thoiugh his dad and siblings didn't attend.

I raised d issue with him and he is not responsive.
So my question now is how do I get spousal information...do companies keep this info?I would like to contact the ex wife/wife to find out what really happened so I can get some closure and keep it moving.

Thanks
Re: HELP: I Have Just Been Told That My Fiance Is Married! How Can I Validate This by Chiefpriest1(m): 6:52am On Oct 24, 2014
Duwop,my sister, this is not the time to take any irrational decision based on what a few persons (on and offline) are pushing you to do. This requires thoroughness. For you to have even investigated his background means you are neither dumb nor stuupid. I ll advise you dont take decisions, especially one as important as this,based on assumptions.

Make sure you cover all the angles, all the sides to this issue before you 'move on'. Nobody can understand the situation better than you.

I am sure he has an explanation. Give him the benefit of the doubt when he comes over this weekend. Listen with an open mind. You can only walk away when you are convinced that he's lying to you.

I am not holding brief for him, but it also possible that he didnt respond because he was shocked by the fact that you were conducting a check on him when he expected you to trust him.

Just a lil advice: pls make sure you thrash out all the issues before any intimacy, thats if its going to happen that day. This is because sexx has a way of blurring ones reasoning.lol

Whatever it is, it is your decision to take and you are the one that ll live with it. Goodluck and I pray this ends well.

NB: there might be no need to speak directly with the other woman unless you think its absolutely necessary.

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Re: HELP: I Have Just Been Told That My Fiance Is Married! How Can I Validate This by Nobody: 7:29am On Oct 24, 2014
^^^^ I'm with you on this one.

No need for any rash decision when you two have not talked about it properly. He may just have a good explanation for that. What you do afterwards depends on the outcome of your discussion and your findings.

By the way, do not let anyone make you look fo0lish. I think you are taking the right steps and asking the right questions.

Good luck.
Re: HELP: I Have Just Been Told That My Fiance Is Married! How Can I Validate This by duwop: 7:39am On Oct 24, 2014
Exactly my thot process. I am not one to make rash decisions,that is why I am taking my time. I also see it as very out of character for him to lie about such an important issue. He has a reputation of being pragmatic, careful and very trustworthy so I am goingg to see what he has to say.
Chiefpriest1:
Duwop,my sister, this is not the time to take any irrational decision based on what a few persons (on and offline) are pushing you to do. This requires thoroughness. For you to have even investigated his background means you are neither dumb nor stuupid. I ll advise you dont take decisions, especially one as important as this,based on assumptions.

Make sure you cover all the angles, all the sides to this issue before you 'move on'. Nobody can understand the situation better than you.

I am sure he has an explanation. Give him the benefit of the doubt when he comes over this weekend. Listen with an open mind. You can only walk away when you are convinced that he's lying to you.

I am not holding brief for him, but it also possible that he didnt respond because he was shocked by the fact that you were conducting a check on him when he expected you to trust him.

Just a lil advice: pls make sure you thrash out all the issues before any intimacy, thats if its going to happen that day. This is because sexx has a way of blurring ones reasoning.lol

Whatever it is, it is your decision to take and you are the one that ll live with it. Goodluck and I pray this ends well.

NB: there might be no need to speak directly with the other woman unless you think its absolutely necessary.


Re: HELP: I Have Just Been Told That My Fiance Is Married! How Can I Validate This by Tvegas(m): 8:26am On Oct 24, 2014
duwop:
I already wrote above that I have met his dad and uncle and friends. His dad absolutely adores me but his mom passed away 11 years ago. His uncle is a lagos socialite and always invites me and bf out to events all d time.
I think d more pertinent point here is learning how to communicate and work on issues and setting up a solid foundation.
Babe dont dwell too much on the family affection even though it is a good sign because i have seen instances where families warm up to any spouse that the black ship of the family brings just to get him or her hitched.You are on the right track by asking questions but you are approaching it the wrong way. You dont have any business with his EX,trust me the outcome of your meeting with her wont be good. What exactly do you want her to say? That she was at fault and your guy is an angel and you should marry him?

Also, A marriage that will last shouldnt start with snooping and continuous investigations. Here comes some of the Red Flags i see in your spouse, he should have cleared the air as soon as the issue started. So i am starting to ask if he respect you? Make sure you fix the communication problem before going forward.Secondly, if he is such a gentleman why didnt he honor his family and friends by inviting them to partake in the crashed traditional marriage? Take your time to know this man . Best of luck

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Re: HELP: I Have Just Been Told That My Fiance Is Married! How Can I Validate This by Juzzybabe(f): 8:52am On Oct 24, 2014
Be calm and act with your senses this time not your emotions. Don't pressure him on this. Ask him with wisdom and care. Remember,for him to have gone for trad against his family wish means he was either under a spell or genuinely in love with her. let's assume he was in love when he did that,do you expect such love to die so soon? The office Record for me,isn't prove enough. some job seekers lie about marital status depending on the benefits. So dear,I will advice you visit him and have a face to face chat with him. Leave his woman out of it for now,if u really want him. If he insist he's single,start getting closer to him and his family. Lastly,distance relationship is a 50/50 thing,you don't put all your eggs in one basket and never let it get over you.
Re: HELP: I Have Just Been Told That My Fiance Is Married! How Can I Validate This by sanchezzz: 9:09am On Oct 24, 2014
One Word.... walk away my dear. You deserve better. Forget the fact that he is quiet responsible bla bla. A lot of responsible men out there for you.
Re: HELP: I Have Just Been Told That My Fiance Is Married! How Can I Validate This by Nobody: 9:52am On Oct 24, 2014
duwop:

I raised d issue with him and he is not responsive.
So my question now is how do I get spousal information...do companies keep this info?I would like to contact the ex wife/wife to find out what really happened so I can get some closure and keep it moving.

Thanks

I am just wondering if its right to violate his privacy like this all because he didn't respond.

If you have doubts you can take your time and know him some more or just not marry him. All i see is you don't trust this man you are about to marry slow things down so you can make a well informed decision.

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Re: HELP: I Have Just Been Told That My Fiance Is Married! How Can I Validate This by Nobody: 1:44pm On Oct 24, 2014
It is only the gods that can help solve your problems.

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Re: HELP: I Have Just Been Told That My Fiance Is Married! How Can I Validate This by beeevan: 2:30pm On Oct 24, 2014
All I can say is this,you are too young to be bordering yourself over a dude with a sketchy past undecided.

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Re: HELP: I Have Just Been Told That My Fiance Is Married! How Can I Validate This by Saraha1(f): 3:22pm On Oct 24, 2014
Lot of wisdom is require or else you may regret your action.
Re: HELP: I Have Just Been Told That My Fiance Is Married! How Can I Validate This by egopersonified(f): 6:02pm On Oct 24, 2014
I had to go back to the op to understand some issues. If he paid actors or took friends to marry her, he paid the bride price and therefore she is married to him. If this is stated on his records, then he would have effected that after the traditional marriage. Now the fact that he doesnt have it on paper doesnt mean they arent married. As long as the bride price wasnt returned to him, he is still married to her. I dont see why you are shocked or surprised about his official records, he was married but he is now seperated, is there any need to keep digging again?

Why not ask him your questios? At least he told you about the marriage, not informing his parents and the break up. Please try to find out any other info from him instead of snoping, build that trust now.
Re: HELP: I Have Just Been Told That My Fiance Is Married! How Can I Validate This by Nobody: 11:40am On Oct 25, 2014
duwop:
Hmmmm well tthought out advice. News reaching me now is that it was n error as there r two people with d same name in the company. The other is an older guy n his married. But we plan to discuss over d weekend. I ll decide after d talk. Thanks for d pep talk.
Really admire your patience or should I say confidence...I hope it all ends well..and do let us know if it does.
Re: HELP: I Have Just Been Told That My Fiance Is Married! How Can I Validate This by Nobody: 11:46am On Oct 25, 2014
Kanwulia:
You fit date man long distance. . . you nor fit find 'companies of spousal records' with your 'long distance' tentacles? cheesy
IF ANY MAN CAN FOOL A NIGERIAN BABE. . . .EVEN A VILLAGE ONE THAT HAS NEVER SEEN 'LEHGUS'. . . . IN THIS DAY AND AGE. . . SHE MUST BE. . . .A. . . .$%*@! grin

You are not a 'marriage' material for the simple FACT THAT YOU ARE 'SLOW'!
No insult intended. . . just the BASIC FACT! kiss


Look ehn?
We all know Nairaland has long gone to the dogs.
To open thread nor to by force o?

O da bo!

*anybarry wey quote me come back for this thread. . . .may EBOLA choose him or her as it's next spouse. . . AMEN*

>>>>>>>>>exits thread>>>>>>>>
This is so unlady like...very good you exited the thread cos you are beginning to over do it.
Re: HELP: I Have Just Been Told That My Fiance Is Married! How Can I Validate This by Rosarie(f): 7:18pm On Oct 25, 2014
addng to what most nl ve said i wil also ask u y did d x leave few mnthz aftr.cos she knew wot she was getting into..ma dear walkaway.

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