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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by sukkot: 1:19pm On Oct 26, 2014
ELLYsian:


Quote this part of the Bible, please.
ok let me first enlighten you. beasts in the bible are empires. the roman empire is the caucasian empire. aka the fourth beast.

daniel 7 vs 2 Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea. And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by ELLYsian: 1:22pm On Oct 26, 2014
sukkot:
ok let me first enlighten you. beasts in the bible are empires. the roman empire is the caucasian empire. aka the fourth beast.

This is YOUR interpretation of the Bible.

daniel 7 vs 2 Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea. And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.

Enlighten? Do you know what it means?
I think it is you who needs Enlightenment.
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Revolva(m): 1:26pm On Oct 26, 2014
Omo well una never see anything go america and see wetin women dey do...na there you go fear...well @OP i wish i was the one dat saw it i will just use her fat azz to entertain my self...looking at how the ikebe dey gyrate..up and down round n round.. grin grin grin
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by sukkot: 1:26pm On Oct 26, 2014
ELLYsian:


This is YOUR interpretation of the Bible.



Enlighten? Do you know what it means?
I think it is you who needs Enlightenment.



i see you are still in the dark. i cant help you. you actually think they are speaking about real beasts ? like some monster looking creature with 7 heads and 10 horns is what they are speaking about ? some alien looking creature ? lwtmb. i cant help you bro. you are too far in the dark

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by honeric01(m): 1:29pm On Oct 26, 2014
MissMeiya:


So in the Nigeria you live in, men don't frequently remove their shirts and go about shirtless? In public and in private, as often as they can?

Go shirtless to the airport or what exactly are you talking about here?

What do we all call guys who walk about shirtless in Nigeria? thugs/agberos. No?

do you see men who walk about shirtless as responsible men?

I am waiting for your truthful answers.

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Nobody: 1:30pm On Oct 26, 2014
honeric01:


Go shirtless to the airport or what exactly are you talking about here?

What do we all call guys who walk about shirtless in Nigeria? thugs/agberos. No?

Can you see men who walk about shirtless as responsible men?

I am waiting for your truthful answers.

1. Yes
2. No
3. Yes
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by ELLYsian: 1:32pm On Oct 26, 2014
sukkot:
i see you are still in the dark. i cant help you. you actually think they are speaking about real beasts ? like some monster looking creature with 7 heads and 10 horns is what they are speaking about ? some alien looking creature ? lwtmb. i cant help you bro. you are too far in the dark

Where does the Bible state that it refers to Caucasian Empires? Where?

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by honeric01(m): 1:35pm On Oct 26, 2014
MissMeiya:


1. Yes
2. No
3. Yes

Just imagine, it's easy to detect your state of mind with your answers.

Enough said.

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by sukkot: 1:36pm On Oct 26, 2014
ELLYsian:


Where does the Bible state that it refers to Caucasian Empires? Where?
its like this, there are four beasts. its the history of the world allegorically written. the first beast is the babylonian empire. the second beast is the medopersian empire. the third beast is the greek empire and the fourth beast is the roman empire. we are currently under the rulership of the fourth beast which is the caucasian empire aka roman empire. you think it is mere coincidence that the white man is ruling the world ? its his turn. he is the fourth beast. empires come and empires go. they are called beasts.

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by freecocoa(f): 1:40pm On Oct 26, 2014
honeric01:


Go shirtless to the airport or what exactly are you talking about here?

What do we all call guys who walk about shirtless in Nigeria? thugs/agberos. No?

Can you see men who walk about shirtless as responsible men?

I am waiting for your truthful answers.
And where have you seen women walking about t0pless in Nigeria?

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by nairaarea: 1:42pm On Oct 26, 2014
Very true

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by ELLYsian: 1:44pm On Oct 26, 2014
sukkot:
its like this, there are four beasts. its the history of the world allegorically written. the first beast is the babylonian empire. the second beast is the medopersian empire. the third beast is the greek empire and the fourth beast is the roman empire. we are currently under the rulership of the fourth beast which is the caucasian empire aka roman empire. you think it is mere coincidence that the white man is ruling the world ? its his turn. he is the fourth beast. empires come and empires go. they are called beasts.

We are under what rule NOW? The Roman Empire?
The Roman Empire fell in the 4th - 5th century.

And you can only think of four Empires in human history?

Like seriously?

And you wanted to enlighten me? undecided

You better study some history books before you speak of Enlightenment.

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by lezz(m): 1:47pm On Oct 26, 2014
ELLYsian:


I guess you are not aware of the fact that the West is morally better developed than Nigeria.
Nigeria is famous for being morally crooked.

Stop blaming the West. This victim mentality won't solve any of the problems the country has.



The west has a more transparent and functional government and agencies. And that's all.

But the west is far from morally sound. We are talking about the west whose children are disrespectful to their teachers and parents because they can't be disciplined statutorily. And despite the aboundance of wealth, they have kid murderers, kid drugist and all.


We are talking about the west whose religion is individualism and science. The west which has brought the male and female to see themselves as competing for supremacy. It has spilled into Nigeria, and in nairaland no issue of any of the sexes is discussed without it morphing into a gender war. Like this one.

The west that has brought and campaigned for homosexuality and lesbianism to be a norm and acceptable code of public behavoiur.

The west which as developed a modern IVF where a child can have 3 biological parents. Confusion...confusion.


The west who a times place more value and rights on animal pets than on human lives....teach me morality, quoter.


The jews have been with the west for thousands of years, but they kept their morality and culture different from the culture-less west. The jews copied the technology of the west and becoming the masters wothout selling off their culture.


The imposition of western culture accross the globe is top of their agenda. And they target the most weak and gullible especially in africa, that's why Ghana had not been able to pass her anti-gay laws.

Tell your africa that we need to have either our own language and culture very distinct from the west or else, we shall remain mind slaves forever.

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by blasterman(m): 1:53pm On Oct 26, 2014
5minsmadness:
So I'm sitting at the lounge of a well known park and heading to Lagos. Its 6.30am in the morning and I'm thinking I should have been here earlier. I'm patiently waiting to get my ticket when this 'lady' pushes thru to the front. I glance at what she is wearing and I mentally gawk in amazement.

Its a gym workout suit. You know, the kind new-yorkers wear, extremely fitted and very tough but light fabric that leaves absolutely nothing to the imagination. Absolutely nothing. Her buttcrack is very visible and her gluteus is covered in celulite as evidenced by the subtle bumps on her posterior. The front...OK I tried really hard not to look but curiosity got the better of me and yep; the cameltoe was on easy display for all to see. The top was better off, or maybe because I'm used to seeing skimpy tops I don't really know.


Funny enough, what comes to my mind isn't that the woman is loose or how can she stomach all the stares she is receiving, or how she can't possibly know this is a gym suit and not meant for travelling. What comes to my mind is that the Westerners are spoiling us rotten. They are corrupting our minds and debasing our way of life so much that we don't even know when we are making fools of ourselves. How can a woman walk out of her house this Unclad this early in the morning with the mind that she is going to Lagos? What is wrong with her thinking faculty?

If it was in the past an elder would have gone to correct her or shame would not have allowed her expose her unclothedness like this; but now if a person approaches her the person will be told to mind his own business, its a free world, wetin your eye find go there, its her body let her do with it as she likes, it is the inward appearance that matters, the person should stop living in the 19th century, his mind is dirty, etc, the list of excuses to correct wrong when we see it is endless.

We as a people are gradually losing our identity and morality. Soon we will have serialrapists aand killers, soon we will have increased incidences of teenage suicide and morbid obesity. Porn0graphy is already fully embedded in the activities of our youths. All these things that were previously alien to our culture. As if the horrors we have are not enough.

And yet we still support the white man's values and way of life. We shout down those who try to speak up, citing their successful economy as a pass to emulate them no matter what they are doing. We are destroying ourselves with our own hands and are happy to do so.

This lady has passed by for the fifth time and almost all the passengers are looking at her. One or two guys are grinning but most of the other guys have frowns on their faces and a few women have gathered the courage to hiss but she obviously doesn't care. After all, she has been taught to ignore haters.

Haters gon' hate.

Sigh.
Signing off jo.



They corrode our morals because we are copy and paste ppl. We copy Europeans and ARabs, The southerns say europeans way is the best, the northerners say the Arab way is the best. WE ARE STILL IN SLAVERY-(MENTAL SLAVERY) we are entirely dependent on them for making our life easier. From a non African point of view what has african contributed to civilisation in recent times--Even Ebola we are waiting for the west to produce vaccine.

YOu can say the west is corroding our morals in little ways but their products improve our lifes is so many ways. Until we step up to the place in that part. we have little to say that matters. Reason is we occuppy our minds with topics that do not progress us whiile they do otherwise.

I hope it changes

MEanwhile u can carry your eyes away from person yansh
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Nobody: 1:54pm On Oct 26, 2014
I don't believe it's the West that corrupts us.

The problem is that we copy all the negative things and ignore all the good. We have ignored all the advancements in health care, technology and science and picked up prostitution, booty shaking, illiteracy and crime.

Africa had its own share of ills before the arrival of the West (killing of twins, evil forest etc) that were as bad as what we have today (even worse).
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by sukkot: 1:57pm On Oct 26, 2014
ELLYsian:


We are under what rule NOW? The Roman Empire?
The Roman Empire fell in the 4th - 5th century.

And you can only think of four Empires in human history?

Like seriously?

And you wanted to enlighten me? undecided

You better study some history books before you speak of Enlightenment.
the roman empire did not fall. it proliferated into the eurozone and usa. these are all the roman empire. this is why all the buildings in these countries are built like the ancient roman buildings and why their sports arenas are built like the romans coliseums and why they use the roman numeral. they are the roman empire but are calling themselves different names now. are you saying all the humans from the roman empire disappeared from the earth ? try to get some understanding. its like how kwara state broke into kogi and whatever state it broke into ( am not familiar with nigerian states )

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by ELLYsian: 1:58pm On Oct 26, 2014
lezz:
The west has a more transparent and functional government and agencies. And that's all.

It has more than that.

But the west is far from morally sound. We are talking about the west whose children are disrespectful to their teachers and parents because they can't be disciplined statutorily. And despite the aboundance of wealth, they have kid murderers, kid drugist and all.

There are disrespectful and criminal children everywhere.



We are talking about the west whose religion is individualism and science.


I guess you are not aware of the fact that most people in Western countries are Christians.


The west which as brought the male and female to see themselves as competing for supremacy.

This is what Nigerians do, not Westerners.
They have better things to do than to discuss submission every day. They have moved past that stage a long time ago.


It has spilled to Nigeria, and in nairaland no issue of any of the sexes is discussed wothout it morphing into a gender war.
Like this one.

Nigerians are never responsible, it is always the "evil" West.
Yet, they will gladly accept their financial and medical aid.


The west that has brought and campaigned for homosexuality and lesbianism to be a norm and acceptable code of public behavoiur.

A topic for another day.


The west which as developed a modern IVF where a child can have 3 biological parents. Confusion...confusion.

I have never heard of a child in the West that has three biological parents.


The west who a times place more value and rights on animal pets than on human lives....teach me morality, quoter.

Says who?


The jews have been with the west for thousands of years, but they kept their morality and culture different from the culture-less west. The jews copied the technology of the west and becoming the masters wothout selling off their culture.

I guess you have never heard of American or European Jews, right?
Since when is religion a nationality?



The imposing of western culture accross the globe is top of their agenda. And they target the most weak and gullible especially in africa, that's why Ghana had not been able to pass her anti-gay laws.

The more advanced people lead, deal with it or develop power to be the leaders.

Tell your africa that we need to have either our own language and culture very distinct from the west or else, we shall remain mind slaves forever.

Why are you using English then?
Does the West prevent you from speaking your local language?

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Nobody: 2:00pm On Oct 26, 2014
ELLYsian:


So some perverted men who have not learnt to control themselves should dictate women what to wear?

Firstly, it's not perverted men who dictate what women wear. Men also (at least in Islam) have to cover up. besides covering up isn't limited to clothing but also behaviour.
secondly, the purpose of covering up is not to protect us from perverts

It's to obey and please our lord.
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by ELLYsian: 2:02pm On Oct 26, 2014
sukkot:
the roman empire did not fall. it proliferated into the eurozone and usa. these are all the roman empire. this is why all the buildings in these countries are built like the ancient roman buildings and why their sports arenas are built like the romans coliseums and why they use the roman numeral. they are the roman empire but are calling themselves different names now. are you saying all the humans from the roman empire disappeared from the earth ? try to get some understanding. its like how kwara state broke into kogi and whatever state it broke into ( am not familiar with nigerian states )

Yes, they died long ago.

The Roman Empire fell. All historians agree on that.

Again, you know only four Empires in human history?

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by ELLYsian: 2:04pm On Oct 26, 2014
semioyin:


Firstly, it's not perverted men who dictate what women wear. Men also (at least in Islam) have to cover up. besides covering up isn't limited to clothing but also behaviour.
secondly, the purpose of covering up is not to protect us from perverts

It's to obey and please our lord.

Is everyone a Christian or a Muslim?
Does everyone have to share your religious convictions?
Do you want to impose your beliefs on everyone?
Does anyone have a right to tell people which religion they must follow?

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by sukkot: 2:07pm On Oct 26, 2014
ELLYsian:


Yes, they died long ago.

The Roman Empire fell. All historian agree on that.

Again, you know only four Empires in human history?


you need to read some more. the roman empire is very much around. they have been through different phases. first off around 193 AD a black general from the interiors of africa came with his army and conquered them. his name is septemius severus. this ushered in what is known as the holy roman empire. during this era the empire was dominated by black men. some call it the dark ages or the second temple or byzantine. then the fall of the holy roman empire came around 1300 or so and the caucasians took power again in what is known as the european rennaisance. it was during this period that they started exploring the world and disovered america and added it to their empire. so the roman empire did not go anywhere. it is called the eurozone and usa today. the empire itself proliferated into several european nations and three of these nations annexed america ( french spain and britain )

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Nobody: 2:09pm On Oct 26, 2014
ELLYsian:


Is everyone a Christian or a Muslim?
Does everyone have to share your religious convictions?
Do you want to impose your beliefs on everyone?
Does anyone have a right to tell people which religion they must follow?

Where have I said that others need to behave or act accordingly to my beliefs? I'm just explaining the reasons behind why Muslim people (and Christians) cover up. Whether you do and how u feel is up to you. None of my business
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by ELLYsian: 2:11pm On Oct 26, 2014
semioyin:


Where have I said that others need to behave or act accordingly to my beliefs? I'm just explaining the reasons behind why Muslim people (and Christians) cover up. Whether you do and how u feel is up to you. None of my business

Has anyone said that people are not allowed to cover up due to religious beliefs or for other reasons?

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Nobody: 2:15pm On Oct 26, 2014
ELLYsian:


Has anyone said that people are not allowed to cover up due to religious beliefs or for other reasons?

Okay, you are not following what I'm saying, so let me break it down. My post was explaining that ppl don't cover up because 1) men tell them to and 2) to protect themselves from rape etc.
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Originalsly: 2:16pm On Oct 26, 2014
I wouldn't blame the West. We allow ourselves to be corrupted morally. When it comes to indecent dressing...that is a matter of locality. What is indecent in one place is not in another and vice versa. The woman in question would wear whatever she likes because people like you say or do nothing. Do you think she is crazy to wear the same ehmmm...underwear up North? ....and do you think she can wear the same even in New York without getting the disgusting looks and comments? From your description I guess she would be seen as indecent and disgusting even in the tribal settlements where the wonen go almost naked.
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by ELLYsian: 2:17pm On Oct 26, 2014
sukkot:
you need to read some more. the roman empire is very much around. they have been through different phases. first off around 193 AD a black general from the interiors of africa came with his army and conquered them. his name is septemius severus. this ushered in what is known as the holy roman empire. during this era the empire was dominated by black men. some call it the dark ages or the second temple or byzantine. then the fall of the holy roman empire came around 1300 or so and the caucasians took power again in what is known as the european rennaisance. it was during this period that they started exploring the world and disovered america and added it to their empire. so the roman empire did not go anywhere. it is called the eurozone and usa today. the empire itself proliferated into several european nations and three of these nations annexed america ( french spain and britain )

I have rarely read so much nonsense, sorry.
Was the British Empire also Roman? grin
And you still do not know more than four Empires?

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Ilovenigeria(f): 2:18pm On Oct 26, 2014
MissMeiya:


1. Yes
2. No
3. Yes
You are a liar.

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by ELLYsian: 2:19pm On Oct 26, 2014
semioyin:


Okay, you are not following what I'm saying, so let me break it down. My post was explaining that ppl don't cover up because 1) men tell them to and 2) to protect themselves from rape etc.


This was part of the discussion into which you decided to jump in.
People were saying that women are se*xually assaulted because their clothes provoke men and this is why I asked if perverts should dictate women what they should wear.

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by sukkot: 2:22pm On Oct 26, 2014
ELLYsian:


I have rarely read so much nonsense, sorry.
Was the British Empire also Roman? grin
And you still do not know more than four Empires?





of course the british empire was also roman. geezz you need to pick up a book. stop embarrassing yourself on a public forum

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Britain

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Ilovenigeria(f): 2:23pm On Oct 26, 2014
I am sorry op @ the way they twisted your thread.
We all know that what is good is good. There are some clothes some women will put on, even my young nieces will shout tufiakwa.

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Oduduwaboy(m): 2:25pm On Oct 26, 2014
NoContract:
@OP, please shut up witht your 'corrupted morality iish'

What a gang of self serving mofos blaming the west for their failed empathy. You rob your citizens, and build mansions overseas and companies, then you come back and claim the west are the ones messing you up!

What a bunch of hypocritial fools, fooling themselves since they forcefully ganed independence.

I've never seen such a sheepish country filled with 97% gullible people.

Chai! For 2014!
Wow. see flogging. Abeg make Seun close this thread, e be like say e dey vex many people.

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Nobody: 2:26pm On Oct 26, 2014
ELLYsian:


This was part of the discussion into which you decided to jump in.
People were saying that women are se*xually assaulted because their clothes provoke men and this is why I asked if perverts should dictate women what they should wear.

Yes, and I jumped in to clarify that protection isn't the goal of covering up and that men don't dictate how women cover up. I am not discussing whether covering up makes u immune to assaults or what I think ppl should wear because of course you aren't immune to assaults bcus you're covered and people can't be forced to wear more/less than they please. Thought that goes without saying..

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