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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:14pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
agaugust: Egypt had their last ISTAR upgrade around 2008, Nigeria upgraded 2013. Egypt has no aircraft to match Nigerian Beechcraft and Surveyor aircra Doesnt matter when they got it, they have better base systems than you Nigeria has both version A and version B of Bofors, we got them in batches, some 1980s some year 2000s, they are the worlds best artillery systems, Swedish arty is world leader. Nope, you only have the origionals from the 1980's and your limited range artillery is no where near the best. M777 and G5 are worlds ahead. So you are wrong there SANDF has ONLY Starstreak I version and ceiling is max 1km, one of the worst in Africa. Artical was posted not so long ago that clearly said we took delivery of Starstreak 2. I also just posted a citation published before the delivery saying that they had been ordered. So nope, wrong there as well. SANDF has no CRAM capability and no Badger IFV in service today as in your posted photo, or else Nigeria too has T-84 Oplot tanks, get it ? No i dont get it. We have: 1. Badgers in South Africa in SANDF colors 2. Multiple sources outlining their order (both the badger and CRAM) You have: One grainy photo of unidentified armored vehicles, in a parkinglot in the Ukraine, from an unknown source No proof whatsoever that it has been ordered. You cannot afford the T84. And Ukraine cannot afford to sell any... I dont think you noticed.. but they are in the middle of a war right now. Your Submarines and data-link has not helped you arrest one single pirate after 2 years of patrolling the oceans Which is a great way of saying that you have nothing that compares. [size=15pt]let me remind you: You lack - - a data-link - a pure blood 4th gen fighter - submarines - advanced missile armed frigates - tactical vehicles - mine clearance devices - standardized MGL's and AGL's - precision munitions - dedicated attack helicopters - modern ATGM's - modern IFVs (or even a plan to get some) - modern transport helo's - capacity for EW warfare - CRAM - modern or modernized armour - standardized equipment - You also dont have enough MRAP's and Radios - you use the AK-47 Conclusion: The Nigerian military does not compare to the SANDF in any way shape or form. We have better armor, better artillery, better naval vessels, better jet aircraft, better air-defence, better ATGM's, better combat systems, better CnC and better equipped infantry. Nigeria is a 1970's military through and through [/size] Thanks for playing. NEXT 3 Likes
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:30pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
All your bases are belong to us Yeah that SAAF and that's a 20mm door gun. Funnly enough it actually a ww2 german aircraft gun. All so I beilfe we the last user of the MG151. That bad boy has been mounted on casspirs, choppers, SF hornets and the NTW firs the same round. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:41pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
EVarn: you do know that there are SA aid workers in the ebola hot zones, south sudan and somlia and SA provides concribil support to these regions. SA can only support 3000 solders beyond SA. any more and we over work our solders. To many deployments wear troops and gear out |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:44pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
postmann: Nigerian logic "i dont like it so it must be false" 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:45pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
patches689: [size=16pt] 90% of your above post is all cooked up lies . [/size] 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:55pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
patches689: Badger IFV is NOT in service anywhere in this world, SANDF has 2 units for evaluation purpose only. Show me in SIPRI all the following: SANDF Badger IFV SANDF Starstreak II SAM SANDF CRAM Ammunition If you cannot show me then shuut up. Don't bring in weapons on order, Nigeria has $2 Billion worth of weapons already flowing in at Lagos seaport Abuja airport, and Markurdi airbase, crates and crates, vehicles and vehicles nobody can list them all. Get it? Oh yes you do get it ! . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by PrinxArthur1(m): 6:11pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
agaugust:still war zone like b4, in a few weeks i might join una but right now i dey read for exam 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 6:11pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
andrewza:link and citation please,because i have neither seen,nor heard about SA deploying aid workers in ebola zones.it is commendable that you admit that you people cannot deploy more than a paltry 3000 soldiers abroad.nigeria has much more than that number scattered all over liberia,mali,seirra leone,somalia,cote d'ivoire and south sudan,that is what african solidarity is about.when the time to elect an african UN permanent security council member comes,nigeria is surely the best candidate. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 7:01pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
agaugust: I am saying he was ALSO RACIST. And that you have FAILED to point that out. You just praised him. Selective assessment on your part, given that his posts have been 100% racist until he was called out. Now they are just empty and baseless. As for us being glory thieves, we have slaughtered 100% of his baseless arguments. The same fate awaits you if you wanna revisit your old, dead arguments. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 7:28pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
agaugust: [size=16pt] Prove it's all cooked up... . [/size] |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 7:33pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
agaugust: If nobody can list them, they therefore don't exist. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 7:45pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
Agububu do you remember this... agaugust: .....I answered by saying this
I'm still waiting...... |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:04pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
ActivateKruger: If your own laptop has no google search engine, then keep waiting till you have money to buy modern microsft software. I am not your servant to run errands of google search for you, click each of those items you listed, get Google result in one minute and copy paste it here for us to see. If you can't, then you may be one of the unemployed South Africans using government social benefit internet, I hear that it's always low on megabytes so you have to stingingly economize data usage. Olodo . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:08pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
ActivateKruger: Can you list the of Russian spy satellites and newest generation submarines correctly? If you can't and you conclude they don't exist, then you are extremely retaarded, saying everything that is not published on internet or news media does not exist. List the names of all demons in existence.....oh, they don't exist if we cannot list them....fool . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 8:19pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
agaugust: Copying and pasting links would have been way quicker than giving me this lame excuse. In simple words you cannot dispute facts made by South Africans . You're a weeping clown 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 8:31pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
agaugust: I can name one fabricator - agaugust. Nigeria is not (even after a million years) in the Russian league, Russia builds her weapons and imports very little. So yes they can develop weapons in secrecy and store them, Nigeria IMPORTS almost all her weapons so it shouldn't be hard to count crates of weapons at the airport... If no one can count them they're therefore the Emperor's New Clothes which cannot be seen by anyone because they don't exist. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:56am On Oct 30, 2014 |
agaugust: [size=15pt]100% of what i have posted has been proven over the last 1300 pages [/size] |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:02am On Oct 30, 2014 |
agaugust: SIPRI simply lists it as Starstreak But, we have 2 other sources that state that the Starstreak 2 was ordered and delivered. Your argument is pathetic SANDF CRAM Ammunition SIPRI does not list ammunition sales. and we have multiple sources that list its use http://free-proxyserver.com/browse.php?u=jeG%2BQyq40mhJAbC6AavTBzDV40aQwdGnnsHcmusr5goN5QEytpY%2B4eNYZ3XpTpwtKKGMFATCGMaGQhmz7mhVAff7nWcKS37dEU1b42mAxQBWdJA51mC6zSGejqJFgEcrupRoS3LH%2BMza7XxMrNjCAoXaBqdFeaEmSeaV5dtOu1f9v2Ezsum%2F8ZXlo0l4yw%3D%3D&b=0&f=norefer If you cannot show me then shuut up. The only one around here who claims mythical arsenals is you |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:05am On Oct 30, 2014 |
agaugust: Look at this clown sulking He cant prove his claims now he says "its not my job to prove what I am saying is correct" WA-HAHAHAHAHAHA 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:16am On Oct 30, 2014 |
patches689: SIPRI called is Startsreak I because that is what it is, at the time and date you ordered, version II was not existing. Yet up to 2013 the version II was still being expected in British Army service, so show me how South Africa has it Okay you ordered it? Show me web link source to prove it, I asked 3 times and you could not answer with proof Now I know you are in a mess like the Mokopa mess that stinks with falsehood and fake info The craaaazyu weblink you posted above shows you are totally messed up in your own shiit and poohpooh See what your link says about 'CRAM ammunition'.... "This site is built to help web surfer like you navigate the web worry free. With our free proxy server, you can browse the web securely knowing that your privacy is completely protected. Browsing the web through our server will mask your ip with our ip so you will remain anonymous." That is SANDF CRAM ammunition source, abi ? You must have your head stuck inside a pit latrine soaking up the shiit . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:21am On Oct 30, 2014 |
patches689: ActivateKruger: List how many spy satellites Russia has, and how many new generation submarines, list the numbers because that is the only proof they exist, and how many they are in numbers. Also list the equipment Nigeria was trying to buy for $15 million from South Africa, since the list of all imported weapons is available on internet according to you. Also list how many Norinco AGL and MRAPS, plus SPARTARN APCs Nigeria has, since internet data is the only proof of the weapons Nigeria has imported and their numbers. Olodo rabata .
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:41am On Oct 30, 2014 |
ActivateKruger: Algeria is superior to South Africa, 48 latest Su-30 Flankers, 100 modern Trainer jets, BVR missiles, anti-radiation missiles, air to surface missiles, 5 air to air refuelling tankers, 36 Mi-35 Hinds, 1,000 T-72 and T-90 tanks, 38 Pantsir SAM air defense, 250,000 army regs and resvs with 11 years modern war experience, deadly assassin special forces with combat experience, 6 submarines, 13 Frigates and corvettes with missile range 250 km anti-ship. Lots of weapons South Africa cannot afford to buy with her defence budget. Morocco is almost as strong as Algeria, so South Africa is lost far behind even Ethiopia. You South Africans are just fools with minds locked up in prison by the ANC that deceives you daily with false information that you have the best country in everything in the whole of Africa, you live in a fully hypnotized condition and mind bondage of delusions . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppsigGLPfPY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg3fmQ4aisI . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:52am On Oct 30, 2014 |
agaugust: Refer to the archives, Starstreak 2 confirmed by defenceweb And even Starstreak 1 has a 6km range and 5km altitude The Mach 3 Starstreak I missile introduced in 1997 features a maximum parabolic range of 6,000 meters against airborne targets flying below 5,000 meters of altitude. http://www.deagel.com/Surface-to-Air-Missiles/Starstreak_a001059001.aspx AHEAD Ammo - Denel Dual Purpose 35mm http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6656:fact-file-denel-35mm-dual-purpose-gun&catid=79:fact-files&Itemid=159 What were you saying? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:53am On Oct 30, 2014 |
agaugust: Limited numbers of all of the above. But, if we cant list them... that means neither can you, because you also dont know they exist! List how many spy satellites Russia has, and how many new generation submarines, list the numbers because that is the only proof they exist, and how many they are in numbers. 2 new subs. One DE that uses Fuel Cells and one Nuclear that just finished sea trials. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:55am On Oct 30, 2014 |
agaugust: I see you have given up trying to tell us that Nigeria is better than us. lolly lolzy lol 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 6:56am On Oct 30, 2014 |
agaugust: Agububu, don't try your smart with me because It only exposes your f00lishness. You said there were crates of weapons with APCs at the airport but no one knows the numbers... So no one in Nigeria can count? is that your argument? If you're here to confirm that none in Nigeria can do stock counting then its wonderful, all numerical figures you have given to us are invalid because after all you cannot count. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:23am On Oct 30, 2014 |
Over Fifty terrorists died yesterday afternoon as troops raided their hideout in Kawuri before setting out on a planned attack on Konduga. One Fabricated Artillery Gun, Two Anti – Aircraft gun, an armoured vehicle and assorted types of ammunition were captured in the process. Some hardware, weapons, food items and personal belongings were also destroyed in the Raid. One Officer and Two Soldiers were seriously wounded. www.defenceinfo.mil.ng/troops-raid-terrorists-hideout-in-kawuri-over-50-dead/ |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 1:26pm On Oct 30, 2014 |
Henry120: HOW COULD YOU ALSO FAIL TO INFORM US THAT BH CAPTURED YET ANOTHER CITY. http://leadership.ng/news/388641/boko-haram-captures-mubi-town-adamawa 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 1:38pm On Oct 30, 2014 |
Msauza: Just read the comments section, people used this opportunity to post adverts instead of raising their concerns .... I guess Boko Haram is good for business. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:05pm On Oct 30, 2014 |
Patchesagain: The British army that the missile was produced for, says officially and authoritatively that the maximum Starstreak I missile ceiling is only 1km, your private website is referring to starstreak II which even the British are still trying to get into full service as at now 2014. SANDF is fvcking around with version I at 1km max ceiling, worst expensive missile in Africa. DENEL built dual purpose gun at home, show me source that you bought the CRAM ammunition made in Sweden or Germany, I need SIPRI source that proves you imported the CRAM ammo, show me now !!! Okay, then because Bofors guns use 60km range artillery shells, then Nigeria also has it as ammunition for our 73 Bofors FH-77B, right ? You wish to balance the equation? Let us do so if you say so . |
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