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Re: Abraham ( A Model How To Be A Real Man/woman) by plaetton: 6:11pm On Nov 01, 2014
scosco1:
. Much isn't known or documented of such heroes and they weren't propagated as worth full ideals to young Africans who wer searching for religious iconic figures like Abraham . For now , a lot will still stick to this mythical figure as you prefer to refer him . It isn't my bad is it ...? Maybe you could take it up as a cause to research and enlighten us more about our African religious heroes

You still don't get .
Africans searching for iconic religious figures like Abraham?

Gosh!
I wanna throw up.
Your lies and delusions are nausating.

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Re: Abraham ( A Model How To Be A Real Man/woman) by scosco1: 6:17pm On Nov 01, 2014
plaetton:


You still don't get .
Africans searching for iconic religious figures like Abraham?

Gosh!
I wanna throw up.
Your lies and delusions are nausating.
Leave all those english words name any of them who has influenced even till this era a faith or belief system developed aπϑ linked to him in Africa ...?
Re: Abraham ( A Model How To Be A Real Man/woman) by JackBizzle: 6:18pm On Nov 01, 2014
scosco1:

Leave all those english words name any of them who has influenced even till this era a faith or belief system developed aπϑ linked to him in Africa ...?


Abraham didnt develop anything.


The guy is just a story cooked up by Jews to push propaganda

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Re: Abraham ( A Model How To Be A Real Man/woman) by scosco1: 6:21pm On Nov 01, 2014
plaetton:


You still don't get .
Africans searching for iconic religious figures like Abraham?

Gosh!
I wanna throw up.
Your lies and delusions are nausating.

Re: Abraham ( A Model How To Be A Real Man/woman) by scosco1: 6:23pm On Nov 01, 2014
Look at that distribution ...Abrahamic faith dominates the scene
Re: Abraham ( A Model How To Be A Real Man/woman) by scosco1: 6:27pm On Nov 01, 2014
JackBizzle:



Abraham didnt develop anything.


The guy is just a story cooked up by Jews to push propaganda
Abraham didn't do what ? I don't wanna go into that ! Even if he didn't as Ў☺y claim his descendants did aπϑ aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ still doin wot they inherited from him orally aπϑ in written form .
Re: Abraham ( A Model How To Be A Real Man/woman) by plaetton: 6:29pm On Nov 01, 2014
scosco1:

Leave all those english words name any of them who has influenced even till this era a faith or belief system developed aπϑ linked to him in Africa ...?

You never get it.

Foreign religions, especially the two that Africans are unfortunate to have been yolked with, are the equivalent of spent Uranium: Once useful for power, but now deadly and toxic to all who come into contact with it.

So, celebrating or promoting a mythical hero of a toxic Uranium religion is a bizaar form of stockholm 's syndrome.

Africans need to dump these thrashes, send them back to sender, and free our minds to find our rightful place in the world of humans.

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Re: Abraham ( A Model How To Be A Real Man/woman) by plaetton: 6:31pm On Nov 01, 2014
scosco1:
Look at that distribution ...Abrahamic faith dominates the scene

Wow! Congratulations to the Abrahamic faith, right?

If we highlight the distribution of a particular disease in the planet, we can also say congratulations to the disease, right?

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Re: Abraham ( A Model How To Be A Real Man/woman) by scosco1: 6:45pm On Nov 01, 2014
Note pls ...am not a christian nor a moslem ! My views and convictions are steeped deep in judaism . Judaism isn't even recognized in that demograph I gave ...
So what are the new generation of Africans doin τ̲̅ȍ salvage whatever heritage they hav left ....if not still adopting western lifestyls
Re: Abraham ( A Model How To Be A Real Man/woman) by scosco1: 6:47pm On Nov 01, 2014
[quote author=plaetton post=27642983]

Wow! Congratulations to the Abrahamic faith, right?

If we highlight the distribution of a particular disease in the planet, we can also say congratulations to the disease, right?[/quote
Ў☺y can say that again ....but what can Ў☺y do about it ?
Re: Abraham ( A Model How To Be A Real Man/woman) by scosco1: 6:48pm On Nov 01, 2014
plaetton:


Wow! Congratulations to the Abrahamic faith, right?

If we highlight the distribution of a particular disease in the planet, we can also say congratulations to the disease, right?
Ў☺y can say that again ....but what can Ў☺y do about it ?
Re: Abraham ( A Model How To Be A Real Man/woman) by scosco1: 6:53pm On Nov 01, 2014
plaetton:


You never get it.

Foreign religions, especially the two that Africans are unfortunate to have been yolked with, are the equivalent of spent Uranium: Once useful for power, but now deadly and toxic to all who come into contact with it.

So, celebrating or promoting a mythical hero of a toxic Uranium religion is a bizaar form of stockholm 's syndrome.

Africans need to dump these thrashes, send them back to sender, and free our minds to find our rightful place in the world of humans.
I get it ...its Ў☺y that don't get it !
Re: Abraham ( A Model How To Be A Real Man/woman) by rinrin23(f): 7:33pm On Nov 01, 2014
plaetton:


Wow! Congratulations to the Abrahamic faith, right?

If we highlight the distribution of a particular disease in the planet, we can also say congratulations to the disease, right?

grin grin cheesy
Re: Abraham ( A Model How To Be A Real Man/woman) by scosco1: 6:15pm On Nov 03, 2014
plaetton:
Abraham was also a pervert who committed incest by marrying his half sister.

Abraham was also an irresponsible husband who who sexually molested his female servants, sired children through them, and then later threw them out of his household without a care for the future welfare of the mother and child.

Abraham was also the most irresponsible father who agreed to sacrifice/kill his own son to show some bogus faith to so some bogus deity.

A man with such obvious character flaws is a man that most civilized people should be ashamed to be associated with, let alone honor.
Atimes I marvel at some who feel they have attained a level of knowledge that every other as long it isn't in consonance with their own ideology should be a riddance .
And pride themselves with a feigning attitude that they are CIVILIZED ....while in real sense they know nothing

Whatever civilization you pride or feel you represent had its foundation . Our present era is more of a blend of almost the following :- Aztec,celts,chinese,egypt,gaul,greek,indian,babylonian,americas,Roman,vikings,zulu.... aπϑ more ,just to name a few .
Greek/Roman civilization tops them all that has influenced our world today .
The greeks yes gave us philosophy,art,music,play. The romans gave us western law,govt adminstration,engieering and more. But you see my dear friend that isn't all about civilization. What is civilization yes without morals and value for life ? ....forget ur technological devices and gadgets pls and wot we enjoy now if that is wot makes you a modern man . Man without morals is a BEAST.
Most ancient civilizations and even the one ur forebearers might hav descednded from all practiced " INFANTICIDE "-( murder of new born babies ),this was a practice in every ancient civilization, and why did they do such ? - to control population,sex selection,ridding the society of potentially weak ones,and those the gods say should be given to them . Aristotle once said..." there must be a law that no imperfect or maimed child should be brought up . And to avoid excess in population some children must be exposed. For a limit must be found to the population of the state " ...yes he wasn't sayin " I like killing babies ", he could b statin that overpopulation is dangerous. But it showed the easiest members of the society to get rid of are babies .

I have a lot to really say ...
Today we can view killing new born infant as cruel . Ancient cultures did not value life ..pls note that !
Or is it human sacrifice ,most acient civilizations killed ppl as a form of worship. Greek/Romans did so infrequently. Some sacrificed their own children. Or is it the southern part of nigerian that twins are not allowed to exist ...only G-d nows for how long that had been in practice. Or is it in the new world 500yrs ago wen the spanish came, they found the Aztecs roughly about 6million with present mexico as their centre. They don't go to war with lethal weapons so they can take large nos of prisoners. They drag these prisoners to the top of their pyramids and rip out their hearts from their chest one aftr another. They ( aztecs ) believd the world will cease to exist if the bloodflow stopped.
Or is it Rome that took it to a whole new level. The colliseum till date is a wonder of Ancient civilisation, magnificient engineering ! It was the worlds first Astrodome,with a removable roof. The floor of the arena could be filled with water and a boat can sail through it . What was this edifice used for ? ...Virtually everyday of the year 50000ppl would come and sit for free. Meat aπϑ wine for free. Here the frst act of the day featured animals killing eachother. Upto 1000 animals fought at one time.the econd act involvd feeding ppl to this animals. The main event was the Gladiatoral combat. Emperor Trajan held a large tournamnt in which 10000 gladiators fought. Spectators witnessed a lot of deaths . Rome was considerd the most sophisticated civilization at that time mind you but yet barbaric ! Forget cultural aπϑ technological sophistication !

Value for life is one of the most important concept of the Jewish scriptures. The idea is clear and simple in the 6th commandmnt Exo 20:13 " thou shall not kill ..."
Jewish law prohibits infanticide,human sacrifice and killing for sport. The Torah tells us that all its laws can be violated, no expense or effort spared in order to save a life . This has been a guiding principle for the jewish ppl for close to 3800yrs ! The romans came and met the jews with the Torah . The birth of christianity and Islam spread the concept to about three qurter of the globe. The romans especially used christianty which has also helped to reduce and correct a lot of ancient views and practices worldwide ! Those who are more than you have tried to rid the values of the Torah and snuff out the jews but will continue to fail !

That singular act of Abraham has changed the world forever ! Even at a time when it was a norm to sacrifice.

Its only one who knows not where he is going to that will forget where he is coming out from or erase or then destroy the foundation that gave man sanity and corrected his views to the value life.

Ignore those who use religion to commit attrocities .

The world would never had been civil or sane without the truths of the Torah my friend .

Whatever civilization you feel you represent trace its foundation aπϑ the values they teach.

I'd stop here for now .
Re: Abraham ( A Model How To Be A Real Man/woman) by plaetton: 6:29pm On Nov 03, 2014
scosco1:

Atimes I marvel at some who feel they have attained a level of knowledge that every other as long it isn't in consonance with their own ideology should be a riddance .
And pride themselves with a feigning attitude that they are CIVILIZED ....while in real sense they know nothing

Whatever civilization you pride or feel you represent had its foundation . Our present era is more of a blend of almost the following :- Aztec,celts,chinese,egypt,gaul,greek,indian,babylonian,americas,Roman,vikings,zulu.... aπϑ more ,just to name a few .
Greek/Roman civilization tops them all that has influenced our world today .
The greeks yes gave us philosophy,art,music,play. The romans gave us western law,govt adminstration,engieering and more. But you see my dear friend that isn't all about civilization. What is civilization yes without morals and value for life ? ....forget ur technological devices and gadgets pls and wot we enjoy now if that is wot makes you a modern man . Man without morals is a BEAST.
Most ancient civilizations and even the one ur forebearers might hav descednded from all practiced " INFANTICIDE "-( murder of new born babies ),this was a practice in every ancient civilization, and why did they do such ? - to control population,sex selection,ridding the society of potentially weak ones,and those the gods say should be given to them . Aristotle once said..." there must be a law that no imperfect or maimed child should be brought up . And to avoid excess in population some children must be exposed. For a limit must be found to the population of the state " ...yes he wasn't sayin " I like killing babies ", he could b statin that overpopulation is dangerous. But it showed the easiest members of the society to get rid of are babies .

I have a lot to really say ...
Today we can view killing new born infant as cruel . Ancient cultures did not value life ..pls note that !
Or is it human sacrifice ,most acient civilizations killed ppl as a form of worship. Greek/Romans did so infrequently. Some sacrificed their own children. Or is it the southern part of nigerian that twins are not allowed to exist ...only G-d nows for how long that had been in practice. Or is it in the new world 500yrs ago wen the spanish came, they found the Aztecs roughly about 6million with present mexico as their centre. They don't go to war with lethal weapons so they can take large nos of prisoners. They drag these prisoners to the top of their pyramids and rip out their hearts from their chest one aftr another. They ( aztecs ) believd the world will cease to exist if the bloodflow stopped.
Or is it Rome that took it to a whole new level. The colliseum till date is a wonder of Ancient civilisation, magnificient engineering ! It was the worlds first Astrodome,with a removable roof. The floor of the arena could be filled with water and a boat can sail through it . What was this edifice used for ? ...Virtually everyday of the year 50000ppl would come and sit for free. Meat aπϑ wine for free. Here the frst act of the day featured animals killing eachother. Upto 1000 animals fought at one time.the econd act involvd feeding ppl to this animals. The main event was the Gladiatoral combat. Emperor Trajan held a large tournamnt in which 10000 gladiators fought. Spectators witnessed a lot of deaths . Rome was considerd the most sophisticated civilization at that time mind you but yet barbaric ! Forget cultural aπϑ technological sophistication !

Value for life is one of the most important concept of the Jewish scriptures. The idea is clear and simple in the 6th commandmnt Exo 20:13 " thou shall not kill ..."
Jewish law prohibits infanticide,human sacrifice and killing for sport. The Torah tells us that all its laws can be violated, no expense or effort spared in order to save a life . This has been a guiding principle for the jewish ppl for close to 3800yrs ! The romans came and met the jews with the Torah . The birth of christianity and Islam spread the concept to about three qurter of the globe. The romans especially used christianty which has also helped to reduce and correct a lot of ancient views and practices worldwide ! Those who are more than you have tried to rid the values of the Torah and snuff out the jews but will continue to fail !

That singular act of Abraham has changed the world forever ! Even at a time when it was a norm to sacrifice.

Its only one who knows not where he is going to that will forget where he is coming out from or erase or then destroy the foundation that gave man sanity and corrected his views to the value life.

Ignore those who use religion to commit attrocities .

The world would never had been civil or sane without the truths of the Torah my friend .

Whatever civilization you feel you represent trace its foundation aπϑ the values they teach.

I'd stop here for now .

A whole lot of baloney.

More than any other religion or philosophical system , the Abrahamic faiths have done more to pit one part of humanity against his brother in the entire history of the Earth.

Anyone who finds anything beneficial to humankind in the Abrahamic faiths is blind, deaf and dumb.

Hey, btw, if you need a one way ticket to Israel, I will be glad to raise the funds for you.
Go there and tell them that you are a seed of Abraham, and then see where they would shove your black behind.

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Re: Abraham ( A Model How To Be A Real Man/woman) by scosco1: 7:59pm On Nov 03, 2014
plaetton:


A whole lot of baloney.

More than any other religion or philosophical system , the Abrahamic faiths have done more to pit one part of humanity against his brother in the entire history of the Earth.

Anyone who finds anything beneficial to humankind in the Abrahamic faiths is blind, deaf and dumb.

Hey, btw, if you need a one way ticket to Israel, I will be glad to raise the funds for you.
Go there and tell them that you are a seed of Abraham, and then see where they would shove your black behind.
The jews never gave anyone religion ,creeds or doctrines of faith please ...judaism doesn't missionize okay . Judaism gave the world a blue print for an ideal society or civilization on moral grounds that till today the world still searches its pages for direction . Its gentiles who wanted religion aπϑ took it upon themselves to form religion out of it .
Re: Abraham ( A Model How To Be A Real Man/woman) by scosco1: 8:14pm On Nov 03, 2014
The Gentiles had a very wrong concept of what the Torah is all about . The repercussions is what you may say has caused most religious wars.
where you see people doing the craziest things in the name of religion.Many people today that claim to be atheists are people that believed in G-d but left religion because they saw religious people (that they looked up to and respected) do outrageous and abominable acts in the name of G-d
Re: Abraham ( A Model How To Be A Real Man/woman) by GooseBaba: 9:19pm On Nov 03, 2014
scosco1:
The Gentiles had a very wrong concept of what the Torah is all about . The repercussions is what you may say has caused most religious wars.
where you see people doing the craziest things in the name of religion.Many people today that claim to be atheists are people that believed in G-d but left religion because they saw religious people (that they looked up to and respected) do outrageous and abominable acts in the name of G-d

Finally, another deluded african who sees himself a jew/Israelites. The torah you speak of, was there no killing of men,women and children in that shiity book.?

Your inferiority complex drives you to believe that your forbearers had no clue on philosophies on morals until they received the blessings of one shiity torah..

It's obvious you have not objectively studied the philosophies of your forbearers hence your praise for the torah. Arrant rubbish..!!!!

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Re: Abraham ( A Model How To Be A Real Man/woman) by scosco1: 11:42pm On Nov 03, 2014
GooseBaba:


Finally, another deluded african who sees himself a jew/Israelites. The torah you speak of, was there no killing of men,women and children in that shiity book.?

Your inferiority complex drives you to believe that your forbearers had no clue on philosophies on morals until they received the blessings of one shiity torah..

It's obvious you have not objectively studied the philosophies of your forbearers hence your praise for the torah. Arrant rubbish..!!!!
. Could you please take ur little time to read abit . If going to Israel is my ambition I don't know how it affects you. If becoming a Jew gives me fulfillment that is my prerogative . I chose to be different , okay ! ...you could share ur forefathers philosophies on morals to me . What stops you ? Share it pls ...!
Re: Abraham ( A Model How To Be A Real Man/woman) by GooseBaba: 12:10am On Nov 04, 2014
scosco1:
. Could you please take ur little time to read abit . If going to Israel is my ambition I don't know how it affects you. If becoming a Jew gives me fulfillment that is my prerogative . I chose to be different , okay ! ...you could share ur forefathers philosophies on morals to me . What stops you ? Share it pls ...!

And it's my awesome prerogative to put slaves like yourself where you belong. Your likes are a disgrace to humanity.

After belittling your forbearers, you now ask that I share their philosophies on morals.

The first question you need to ask yourself... What is morals? Does any society have a monopoly on morals.? if you can answer this question, you will understand your ignorance in touting the torah as a blue print to morals.
Re: Abraham ( A Model How To Be A Real Man/woman) by scosco1: 1:15am On Nov 04, 2014
GooseBaba:


And it's my awesome prerogative to put slaves like yourself where you belong. Your likes are a disgrace to humanity.

After belittling your forbearers, you now ask that I share their philosophies on morals.

The first question you need to ask yourself... What is morals? Does any society have a monopoly on morals.? if you can answer this question, you will understand your ignorance in touting the torah as a blue print to morals.

Hmmmm....I actually was enjoying this discussion . I'm beginning to feel my opinion isn't just challenged ,but rather hated . Am seeing a discussion about to get dirty with name callings. It seems you are intolerant,about to loose ur cool and vent ur anger aπϑ resentments at me if this discussion continues.
I think I rather discuss with @Plaetton than with you my friend . Don't feel offended please . Thank you .
Re: Abraham ( A Model How To Be A Real Man/woman) by GooseBaba: 2:04am On Nov 04, 2014
scosco1:

Hmmmm....I actually was enjoying this discussion . I'm beginning to feel my opinion isn't just challenged ,but rather hated . Am seeing a discussion about to get dirty with name callings. It seems you are intolerant,about to loose ur cool and vent ur anger aπϑ resentments at me if this discussion continues.
I think I rather discuss with @Plaetton than with you my friend . Don't feel offended please . Thank you .

I resent ignorance. And you are soaked in it.. Mr torah is the blue print of morals. No room to be civil with quacks and low life who believes his fellow africans are gentiles because he is convinced he is a jew/Israelites.

This is a public forum and if you post any trash here again. Rest assured I will call you out.. Anoufia..!

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