freeradical:


That settles it then.....you agree there is God just that but not like various religions describe HIM/IT.

God is energy right and you and i contain energy. So God is not a being but a quality everything thing in creation have. The Tree is a God just like my dog is a God too. When I'm having sex,cooking or sleeping,I am expressing a Godly quality. But claiming that the Jewish Diety is a real god is false. If a Adam and Eve were real, they were God and Goddess too.

freeradical:


Are you a biochemist? Do you understand much about the concept of life? I will like to know your field before i engage you in this section of discourse. So as not to bore you with scientific jargon.
What I am trying to say is that these macromolecules arent that simple when it comes to how they interact to make life as we know it even possible. The complexity of the whole thing makes it impossible for the whole process to have occured in that fashion merely by chance. There is so much order in the way life processes are carried out. Glycolysis and gluconeogenesis are 2 opposite pathways of glucose metabolism but they can never occur simultaneously in the same cell else the cell will encounter what we biochemist call a 'metabolic disaster'. Hence when one is running the other is tightly regulated. Even the gene structure is so mysterious. Do you know that a large fraction of the human genome codes for no known protein but if u splice it off the organism cannot exist.

And please you guys(atheists) should stop shouting intelligence each tym you argue with theist. Make you point and move on. I bet none of you can beat the average xtian in an IQ test yet you somehow like to stroke your ego with the fact that you are sounding smarter. Jeez you guys should outgrow that fallacy please

I'm not a biochemist.

But you still make the assumption that all complex structures necessarily result from a person, a creator. I thin such assumption is a leap of faith.

urheme:


Thank you for laying ambush.

I know where you are going, pls just come back.
I don't believe in religion, i believe in God and ii don't see all the religions put together as a way to God,
Religion was once a leadership theory, then an instrulment of domination by the rulers, now it is in the hands of private business men.

Obviously you don't believe in religion but you adhere to religious dogmas

urheme:


Macof, i don't need your insult this sunday morning.

Every nigerian has a criminal tendecy, so why not?

I don't

You ve perceived me wrongly.

I chose to practice what i feel is good from religion, laws, culture and traditions.

If any of their doctrines contradicts fairness and my good conscience, i kick against it.

macof:

Obviously you don't believe in religion but you adhere to religious dogmas

urheme:
Guy, you are too bitter for a meaningful argument,
The scriptures are affecting your judgement about God, i don,t believe in the holy books so they don't influence me negatively

Religion is man's initiatives to calm men down, in other words to make men obey laws.

You don't have to raise dust from any thing you read in holy books, they ar not holy.

Why tackle me if you don't believe in the holy books Why should it be your concern?

urheme:
You ve perceived me wrongly.

I chose to practice what i feel is good from religion, laws, culture and traditions.

If any of their doctrines contradicts fairness and my good conscience, i kick against it.

still doesn't take away the fact that you worship the God of christianity
Why u jst denying this simple logic

Pr0ton:




Why tackle me if you don't believe in the holy books Why should it be your concern?

She/he is jst confused. If u don't believe the Bible then why worship it's God

macof:


still doesn't take away the fact that you worship the God of christianity
Why u jst denying this simple logic

Thou shall not put words into my mouth,

Is better i leave you to wander in your own assumption, besides i'm not the only one on this thread, pls go and annoy some one else.

freeradical:

So you rather put you faith in evolution. If you must know evolution is a process that cannot kick-start itself. What set that ball of evolution rolling in the first place.

Your question is annoying... How does my not knowing what set the ball rolling in the first prove God's existence? And what makes you think I will never know the cause by the way?

Pr0ton:




Why tackle me if you don't believe in the holy books Why should it be your concern?

I only answered your question, i did not attack you.
Is either you don't like my answer or is too inadequate for u

emeths:
@op, I can see you are an amateur atheist. your questions are so dumb. if you are an intelligent thinker as you claim, you will find the explanations around you. I wish you luck in your quest, shalom.

Why not prove yourself right by answering the questions


Zealots

macof:


She/he is jst confused. If u don't believe the Bible then why worship it's God

Good,
The bible is not a way to God, it is an inconclusive historical/inspirational book that we can learn one thing or two from.

I read to learn, i don't read to worship.

urheme:


I only answered your question, i did not attack you.
Is either you don't like my answer or is too inadequate for u

Your answer would only make sense if you didn't say you didn't believe the book. It's better you understand yourself well before fooling yourself here.

Pr0ton:


Your answer would only make sense if you didn't say you didn't believe the book. It's better you understand yourself well before fooling yourself here.

With all due respect sir, question 10 did not refer us to a particular holy book,

I said i don't believe in holy books(bible, koran and all others). You want me to argue that God exist because some holy books said so, rubbish.

When athiest run out of arguments: they result to insults and you are not exceptional

urheme:


With all due respect sir, question 10 did not refer us to a particular holy book,

I said i don't believe in holy books(bible, koran and all others). You want me to argue that God exist because some holy books said so, rubbish.

When athiest run out of arguments: they result to insults and you are not exceptional

So why do you think God exists?

urheme:


Good,
The bible is not a way to God, it is an inconclusive historical/inspirational book that we can learn one thing or two from.

I read to learn, i don't read to worship.

ok define God and tell me how the Bible describes God wrongly

macof:


ok define God and tell me how the Bible describes God wrongly

God is indescribable

Perhaps if i can see your conscience i may probably come up with a sound definition of God
Since i cannot, an attempt will be a mere academic exercise and may create rooms for more argument

macof:


ok define God and tell me how the Bible describes God wrongly

You had better leave that yeye person with his/her blind argument.

Pr0ton:


You had better leave that yeye person with his/her blind argument.

The better person is beating and he still refuse to learn.

Shamkpa no face!!!

urheme:


The better person is beating and he still refuse to learn.

Shamkpa no face!!!

Lol

urheme:


God is indescribable

Perhaps if i can see your conscience i may probably come up with a sound definition of God
Since i cannot, an attempt will be a mere academic exercise and may create rooms for more argument

na wa o. Define God you can't? Yet u say the Bible is false. How is the Bible's definition of God wrong? U can't answer
But u still worship the Bible God and his son Jesus

Damn! Ur head is in a pile of shit

macof:


na wa o. Define God you can't? Yet u say the Bible is false. How is the Bible's definition of God wrong? U can't answer
But u still worship the Bible God and his son Jesus

Damn! Ur head is in a pile of shit

Am surprise you are still thinking about me, so you have a bible definition of God and u want me to come and prove it wrong, is now am getting you clearly.

Sorry
Am not a bible fan, am not armed with any possible definition from any holy book that i will waste my time disproving.

Your problem is that you think you are too intelligent, you are a proud mumu.

Thanks for following me up as usual as we often end up in a fight and this one does not look exceptional.

It is your head and your mother's own that is full of poo, rubbish!!!

Oduduwaboy:

Okay. You think you are cool now abi? Okay what purpose did Yahweh have in mind when 25% of Africans started having the horrific sickle cell gene? what purpose did god have in mind when he created the genes/chromosomes for functional&congenital disordes such as G-6-PD deficiency or Huntingtons chorea? what purpose does the it serve serve for some humans to be born without their reproductive organs e.g Mayer-Rokitansky-Kauster-Hauser syndrome? Are these the handiwork of a perfect, omnipotent ,omniscient,loving& merciful god?
I have also noted that religion actually becomes more dangerous in the hands of the compliant educated mind; all the bombers of 9/11 were graduates from schools in USA! Dear biochemist , your advanced knowledge in your field does not preclude your ability to manifest an astounding level of cognitive dissonance.
I know that 3.5billion years of evolutionary trial and error can fine-tune the evolutionary biochemical processes in the most complex of biological organisms and also that abnormalities we still get to see are testimonials of the evolutionary process...things can still go wrong despite the billions of years!

I understand the point of your arguement but you still dont get my point. The mutations that cause the abnormalities and diseases you mentioned above are so insignificantly small compared to what can be gotten from random permutation of a human genome with trillions of base pairs. If a mathematician can expound on that you get an infinitesimal combination of base pairs that cannot produce any meaningful life-form. Modern science can elucidate the structure of the human DNA but yet we cannot create a human de novo because there is something that seems to be lacking.

We are a product of our own actions in life. We make our own choices and God should not be blamed for anyone's misguided actions. So atheists and theist alike have been known to perpetrate evil for whatever reasons known to them. That premise is not enough to disprove the existence of God

ifeness:


God is energy right and you and i contain energy. So God is not a being but a quality everything thing in creation have. The Tree is a God just like my dog is a God too. When I'm having sex,cooking or sleeping,I am expressing a Godly quality. But claiming that the Jewish Diety is a real god is false. If a Adam and Eve were real, they were God and Goddess too.

I never said God is energy. I only mentioned that the first set of atomic or sub-atomic particles required energy to set the ball of all things in motion. I believe that energy was provided by God. Even the very atoms and fundaments of matter were created out of nothing by God. That is the only way all of all these will make sense. Thats the only viable explanation to how we got here. There was indeed a creator. We didnt just get here by chance or of our own doing bro. Some one of much higher soverignty, might and power put us on the face of this earth and it will do you well to seek him whilst he can still be found.

Kay17:


I'm not a biochemist.

But you still make the assumption that all complex structures necessarily result from a person, a creator. I thin such assumption is a leap of faith.

The same leap of faith you are taking in presuming that God doesn't exist when there is a 50:50 chance he does. We are both men led by faith!

Pr0ton:


Your question is annoying... How does my not knowing what set the ball rolling in the first prove God's existence? And what makes you think I will never know the cause by the way?

Ofcourse the question will annoy you because it is meant to provoke you to think deeply and critically about your position about life itself.

freeradical:


The same leap of faith you are taking in presuming that God doesn't exist when there is a 50:50 chance he does. We are both men led by faith!

So now you think there is a 50:50 chance for God to exist?!

Kay17:


So now you think there is a 50:50 chance for God to exist?!

To me as a christian I believe 100% that he exists(i have no iota of doubt about this-you can call it my faith!) but for the sake of this argument I posit yes its 50:50. This is because from all the arguments about God's existence still God cannot be proven with empirical data or evidence neither can he be disproven with empirical data or evidence so thats why its 50:50. Always have and always is

freeradical:

We are a product of our own actions in life. We make our own choices and God should not be blamed for anyone's misguided actions. So atheists and theist alike have been known to perpetrate evil for whatever reasons known to them. That premise is not enough to disprove the existence of God

That is inconsistent with the Adam and Eve story of creating Evil into the world. the typical Christian excuse for evil in the world is traced to Adam and Eve; and we are led to understand that Sin when brought into the world made us humans flawed and as a consequence we have flawed actions.

freeradical:


To me as a christian I believe 100% that he exists(i have no iota of doubt about this-you can call it my faith!) but for the sake of this argument I posit yes its 50:50. This is because from all the arguments about God's existence still God cannot be proven with empirical data or evidence neither can he be disproven with empirical data or evidence so thats why its 50:50. Always have and always is

So it is by faith you believe God exists, since the data is not present, right?

freeradical:

I never said God is energy. I only mentioned that the first set of atomic or sub-atomic particles required energy to set the ball of all things in motion. I believe that energy was provided by God. Even the very atoms and fundaments of matter were created out of nothing by God. That is the only way all of all these will make sense. Thats the only viable explanation to how we got here. There was indeed a creator. We didnt just get here by chance or of our own doing bro. Some one of much higher soverignty, might and power put us on the face of this earth and it will do you well to seek him whilst he can still be found.

There goes the threats and blackmail. If i wanna seek God,i will visit the less privileged Gods in the hospital or i can chill at home in the comfort of my Godly bed.

Isn't God everywhere, the Sun,Moon,Stars are the Gods are see every night. What else do you want me to seek for?