If you've been in the church for a while, I'm
sure you've heard this phrase: Love the sinner,
hate the sin.

We know we're called to love all people, but
we use this phrase to explain how we can love
people, even when we don't agree with how
they're living their lives.
It's understandable that we'd desire a phrase
like this. It's hard to know how to love
someone who is doing things we know are
clearly wrong or harmful to them. We don't
know how to love that person while not
feeding into the belief that what they're doing
is okay.
Our love for people and our conviction about
what they're doing are two heavy things to
carry, and we often find ourselves falling to
one side of grace or truth.
And while this is a valid and understandable
struggle, I don't know if this phrase is really
the key to solving this tension.

Here are three reasons I'm not sure this
phrase is helping us become more like Christ:
1. It introduces hate into the conversation.
The first thing to note is that Jesus has never been
about hate. Jesus talks about love and grace
and mercy, but never hate. So introducing
hate into the conversation is automatically a
deviation from His teaching.
Also, if you've ever been on the receiving end
of the "love the sinner, hate the sin" mentality,
it's hard to feel the difference between your
sin being the target of the hate and being the
target yourself.

2. Jesus didn't shame people. The woman at
the well and the prostitute in the square are
great examples of how Jesus treated sin and
the people trapped in it.
In the case of the prostitute in the square,
while the Pharisees were up in arms about her
sin, Jesus paid little attention to it. He didn't
condemn her, or shame her, or make a point of
loving her but not her actions. He just loved
her. And then He gently guided her toward a
different kind of life.

3. Changing someone's sin isn't our
responsibility.
"Love the sinner, hate the sin"
implies that other people's sin is our
responsibility to fix—as if we're going to
change the sin by treating it a certain way—
and that's just not true. When we make
ourselves the "sin police" we get into murky
territory, straying far to the side of truth and
losing much of our grace.
We aren't responsible for fixing, or removing,
or condemning someone's sin. We're
responsible for love. God takes care of the
rest.
Tags:Italo, FrancisTony, chukwudi44,salC..
Does this pertains to what one of you guys said on a thread about homosexuality, that you love the sinner but hate the sin!
http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-life/relationships/21309-debunking-the-love-the-sinner-hate-the-sin-myth

Huh?

In a summary, you mean we should hate the sinner?

FrancisTony:
Huh?

In a summary, you mean we should hate the sinner?

Guess you did not read the post!

Sin is a voluntary activity...

If the sinner knows he's sinning and still goes back to it, that means he's deriving pleasure from it.

Making it your business is a sin cause you should be wary of him before you get infected.



But then....

That's discrimination!

If you try explaining and he doesn't seem to see reasons with you that's when you got to leave him alone.

Ajibam:

Guess you did not read the post!

I did so.

I'm sure that was your aim for creating this thread.

Ajibam:
If you've been in the church for a while, I'm
sure you've heard this phrase: Love the sinner,
hate the sin.

We know we're called to love all people, but
we use this phrase to explain how we can love
people, even when we don't agree with how
they're living their lives.
It's understandable that we'd desire a phrase
like this. It's hard to know how to love
someone who is doing things we know are
clearly wrong or harmful to them. We don't
know how to love that person while not
feeding into the belief that what they're doing
is okay.
Our love for people and our conviction about
what they're doing are two heavy things to
carry, and we often find ourselves falling to
one side of grace or truth.
And while this is a valid and understandable
struggle, I don't know if this phrase is really
the key to solving this tension.

Here are three reasons I'm not sure this
phrase is helping us become more like Christ:
1. It introduces hate into the conversation.
The first thing to note is that Jesus has never been
about hate. Jesus talks about love and grace
and mercy, but never hate. So introducing
hate into the conversation is automatically a
deviation from His teaching.
Also, if you've ever been on the receiving end
of the "love the sinner, hate the sin" mentality,
it's hard to feel the difference between your
sin being the target of the hate and being the
target yourself.

2. Jesus didn't shame people. The woman at
the well and the prostitute in the square are
great examples of how Jesus treated sin and
the people trapped in it.
In the case of the prostitute in the square,
while the Pharisees were up in arms about her
sin, Jesus paid little attention to it. He didn't
condemn her, or shame her, or make a point of
loving her but not her actions. He just loved
her. And then He gently guided her toward a
different kind of life.

3. Changing someone's sin isn't our
responsibility.
"Love the sinner, hate the sin"
implies that other people's sin is our
responsibility to fix—as if we're going to
change the sin by treating it a certain way—
and that's just not true. When we make
ourselves the "sin police" we get into murky
territory, straying far to the side of truth and
losing much of our grace.
We aren't responsible for fixing, or removing,
or condemning someone's sin. We're
responsible for love. God takes care of the
rest.
Tags:Italo, FrancisTony, chukwudi44,salC..
Does this pertains to what one of you guys said on a thread about homosexuality, that you love the sinner but hate the sin!
http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-life/relationships/21309-debunking-the-love-the-sinner-hate-the-sin-myth

John 12:25

25 Those who love their life lose it, and those who hate their life in this world will keep it for eternal life.

Luke 14:26

26 “Whoever comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and even life itself, cannot be my disciple

Tell me again, who introduced hate into the conversation? We...or Jesus?

Now that I have debunked you and your fallacious erroneous ministrytodaymag.com can we move to other things...or do you still want to argue blindly?

Leave those false teachers and come to God's one true Church.