kr0ne:

Lmao! Coogar, we're talking of LIVE BATTLE RAP! I know you'd wanna remind me of the 97 rap olympics in which Em participated, but that was then. He was at his peak then, and luckily for him he was noticed by Dre, who gave a deal. He didn't even win, Otherwise whooped him

eminem has about a billion verses in his head. dizaster even said so that he would not win against eminem. the debate has been done to death & people think eminem would win.

his life is an open book. his mom, kim & his daughter, his drug problem, etc. so dizaster won't win the personal angle and that's the edge battle rappers have over famous industry räppers.

[quote author=Ksslib post=27745612]Na wa o.

So captainflash you had to go change some criterias you tied before in the name of what? Smh. Iam not saying you should vote me but whats with changing verds. Confusion or what? Its not my one kobo who you want to vote but just list out crits and give to who you like--- nobody go cut ya head. . E hard pass so?

I think this is the first time I ll be doing this but captainflash and sosiq should never vote in any brawl I ll partake in----henceforth.



















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smh!!u said i should modify my post. .which i did. . n0w what again?

Guykhena please set up a thread..me and gottoboy...

This evening...8 or 9 pm today

billion verses indeed...

abeg no dey over hype the dude....acting like you live in his house and know his thoughts

Darkrebel:
billion verses indeed...

abeg no dey over hype the dude....acting like you live in his house and know his thoughts

i know him more than you do.
he's from the battle rap circuit too - you folks keep forgetting that ish. he would body, cook, eat dizaster alive if eminem ever steps into a battle ring.

the only snag is if he will be able to remember his verses. he's a better writer than any battler on URL or KOTD. if he can cram his verses and deliver them on point, it's s bidyvsf for whoever he faces.

Darkrebel:
billion verses indeed...

abeg no dey over hype the dude....acting like you live in his house and know his thoughts

Leave am na. If Eminem is all that good he wouldn't have shied away when Canibus challenged him in battle rap. And if not for Dre, Canibus might have killed him long time ago

kr0ne:

Leave am na. If Eminem is all that good he wouldn't have shied away when Canibus challenged him in battle rap. And if not for Dre, Canibus might have killed him long time ago

guess you haven't listened to can-a-bïtch then? eminem killed canibus several times - he felt there was no other need to keep beating canibus.

eminem would skin dizaster alive!

Eminem is diz's role model...

coogar:


i know him more than you do.
he's from the battle rap circuit too - you folks keep forgetting that ish. he would body, cook, eat dizaster alive if eminem ever steps into a battle ring.

the only snag is if he will be able to remember his verses. he's a better writer than any battler on URL or KOTD. if he can cram his verses and deliver them on point, it's s bidyvsf for whoever he faces.

Knowing him more than you..doesn't concern me...am not the type to get fanatical bout someone....
he doesn't have a billion verses in his head...quit the hyperboles... he's a human being..not a god...
he had lost many rap battles...from the shop in detroit where proof was host was several years to the rap Olympics...where he lost to Juice..
he has lost to rhymefest ..

He's not even in form now...so if he enters a top league to brawl.. he can lose ..its no big deal....only advantage he will have is cos he is a celebrity... so he will be treated differently.....

there are many things/personals to diss him bout....
how can a 40 something year old man still be battle rapping
whoever he is battling has to be able to freestyle....he must rhyme every phrase...drop punchlines every 2 lines...and Eminem will be choked......easy as pie

coogar:


guess you haven't listened to can-a-bïtch then? eminem killed canibus several times - he felt there was no other need to keep beating canibus.

I know the track, and who produced it? Dre. He had Dr Dre's back up during that period, and for him being one of the best beat producers in the rap world, most beat hounds would rather prefer anything Dre produced. Go listen to Curriculum 101 and see how Bis tore Em a new @sshole. And he hardly mentioned his name! The great white hope!

coogar:


who's your favourite?



no need to restrict some certain voters...
your verse was epic - the improvement is huge. the only reason anyone might give the edge to kim or tie the battle is cos of the structure & organisation of your rhymes.

it's like many of you rush to post & leave the lines helter-skelter. you have taken time to write a good verse, why not take time too to present it as neatly as possible? what would it cost you?

About presenting neatly and organisation, thats the main issue there, , sometimes you write something and be like 'cool' but when an outsider reads it, he almost immediately points out the broken links.

Its like a game of draft or say chess where the person observing both players sees deadly moves they both cant.

By helter skelter and organisation, are you talking about flow or packing too many diff ideas in one bar ?

kr0ne:

Leave am na. If Eminem is all that good he wouldn't have shied away when Canibus challenged him in battle rap. And if not for Dre, Canibus might have killed him long time ago

can*I*bbitch was as boring as ffuck...I prefer playing my Xbox to listening to that boring crap....
Canibus ripped Eminem...Eminem couldn't cope with it...cos by replying canibus,he would be doing him a favour by making him popular too....
no offense..but y'all should just snap out of that trance..that Eminem is best....all he does is string rhymes together which everyone can do..he's just the best in that aspects...but rap isn't bout rhyming alone....he is very good no doubt...but I tend to lean towards emcee that ain't tryna rap like Common since but Common Sense.....any day..anytime...Jigga is my man
.

his swag alone is box office

Darkrebel:

Knowing him more than you..doesn't concern me...am not the type to get fanatical bout someone....
he doesn't have a billion verses in his head...quit the hyperboles... he's a human being..not a god...

he does have a billion verses in his head - he comes with new materials everyday. there was an interview where he opened his book of rhymes, there was about 30 of them and he said he hadn't even used any of them in his verses. eminem is fire - he is the rap god.

he had lost many rap battles...from the shop in detroit where proof was host was several years to the rap Olympics...where he lost to Juice.. he has lost to rhymefest ..

he was cheated both times. eminem cooked juice & rhymefest - the judges didn't want their local fan from LA lose to a white boy from detroit & they cooked the votes.

He's not even in form now...so if he enters a top league to brawl.. he can lose ..its no big deal....only advantage he will have is cos he is a celebrity... so he will be treated differently.....

he won't be treated differently - he would be treated with respect. every rapper respects eminem & that's a lot of credits to a white boy doing the black arts. his 8-mile movie is the reason the battle rap culture kicked off again & many battlers taking mad money today owe their lives to eminem. dizaster said so - he said he would deliberately lose to eminem just to appreciate the fact that he brought battle rap back to the mainstream.

there are many things/personals to diss him bout....
how can a 40 something year old man still be battle rapping
whoever he is battling has to be able to freestyle....he must rhyme every phrase...drop punchlines every 2 lines...and Eminem will be choked......easy as pie

40 something year old man that is the highest selling rapper in the history of mankind? how would that even qualify as a diss? you always argue with logic with this your akoka-swag. when your superiors are talking, grab a seat and listen.

kr0ne:
I know the track, and who produced it? Dre. He had Dr Dre's back up during that period, and for him being one of the best beat producers in the rap world, most beat hounds would rather prefer anything Dre produced. Go listen to Curriculum 101 and see how Bis tore Em a new @sshole. And he hardly mentioned his name! The great white hope!

is it the production that matters or the bars that came out of ish? eminem decapitated canibus live & direct on that joint. eminem has no equal.

the way he bodied jay-z on renegade is still talked about. even jigga himself referenced it 7 years later that eminem's flow on that track murdered him. put any MC in front of eminem and watch him die a premature death!

when eminem matched royce pound for pound on bad meets evil album then i knew he's unstoppable. royce is a beast & there were people then saying eminem has fallen off and he would be exposed.....they ate back their vomit! when the word came out that eminem wrote every single verse on that album, his god status was promptly confirmed!

Darkrebel:



lol .
.. I ve read almost all the battles here...so I remembered quickly when I saw that ah tore mik thing.....

but not to worry...your anti*clock wise pun..socket...won it for you

Almost all? Wow. You try sha cos thats quite a number.

gottoboy:


You re suppose to

Ok o

Darkrebel:


can*I*bbitch was as boring as ffuck...I prefer playing my Xbox to listening to that boring crap....
Canibus ripped Eminem...Eminem couldn't cope with it...cos by replying canibus,he would be doing him a favour by making him popular too....
no offense..but y'all should just snap out of that trance..that Eminem is best....all he does is string rhymes together....he is very good...but I tend to lean towards emcee that ain't tryna rap like Common since but Common Sense.....any day..anytime...Jigga is my man
.

his swag alone is box office

For true lyricism, listen to:

Rakim
Talib Kweli
Common
Pharaoh Monch
Nas
Canibus
kRS One (underrated)
Killah Priest
Mos Def

For Beat


DMX
50 cent

For Swag
Jigga
BIG (dead)
Big Pun
Rick Ross

For Ashawo and Drugs
DEVIN THE DUDE (this one na mad man)
Kurupt
Scarface

Ksslib:

About presenting neatly and organisation, thats the main issue there, , sometimes you write something and be like 'cool' but when an outsider reads it, he almost immediately points out the broken links.

nah, you should be your own worst critic.
i don't read my own verse and say cool. i always edit & re-edit till the last minute. if i show you my draft, you would shake your head. i fine-tune and fine-tune till i get zapped and nothing else to add.

Its like a game of draft or say chess where the person observing both players sees deadly moves they both cant.

this is why you need plenty of time. don't let your opponent dictate for you on when to drop. he might have been preparing for months for you so don't fall for such cheap tricks. the difference between one dopė battler from the other dopė battler is preparation.

By helter skelter and organisation, are you talking about flow or packing too many diff ideas in one bar ?

by helter skelter, i mean the way you present it to NL. the verses are not intact. one line would separate from the other in one place and others would muddle in another.

use italics to emphasise the pun so you don't have to explain parenthesis. if they don't get it then they are the retardś, not you? the discovery of hidden puns sway judgements your way. if you already explain to them, where's the entertainment value?

coogar:


he does have a billion verses in his head - he comes with new materials everyday. there was an interview where he opened his book of rhymes, there was about 30 of them and he said he hadn't even used any of them in his verses. eminem is fire - he is the rap god.



he was cheated both times. eminem cooked juice & rhymefest - the judges didn't want their local fan from LA lose to a white boy from detroit & they cooked the votes.



he won't be treated differently - he would be treated with respect. every rapper respects eminem & that's a lot of credits to a white boy doing the black arts. his 8-mile movie is the reason the battle rap culture kicked off again & many battlers taking mad money today owe their lives to eminem. dizaster said so - he said he would deliberately lose to eminem just to appreciate the fact that he brought battle rap back to the mainstream.



40 something year old man that is the highest selling rapper in the history of mankind? how would that even qualify as a diss? you always argue with logic with this your akoka-swag. when your superiors are talking, grab a seat and listen.

First of all ...I don't live in Akoka.....

Secondly...Your not my superior....

Thirdly....everyone is entitled to his or her beliefs...


Please  Post the link "Disaster said he would purposely lose to Eminem"..
Please Post it....
Let's confirm ourselves...

You claim you know Eminem...yet you don't know what happened in the rap Olympics final...
Lemme tell you what happened princess....Juice Whooped Eminem's Sorry asss....
Wanna know why? Eminem recycled a punchline....the you couldn't make your fans throw up..if they swallowed their fingers...bla bla.... He was beaten silly ..so stop defending him like your been paid for it..saying they cheated or crap...even Eminem knows he was beaten... seriously Beaten like he stole something....

Lastly ..he doesn't have a billion verses in his head....everyone has rhyme books...and we jot whatever comes to our mind down ...its not only Eminem
..there are many punchlines I have too ..that's unused....same goes to every emcee.. So its not a big deal..its a normal thing....
He can come up with lines willingly....but he doesn't have a billion verses in his head...he needs to sit down and think and sometimes may take him weeks to even come up with 20 punchlines... It happens...so quit the hyperboles....
If Eminem steps into any top rap battle league...he can be still be whooped .....

Jesus...this coogar dey lie.....!!!!

Jigga referenced renegade ..7 years after...abeg post the Link.....

In my opinion....

Eminem won on-- Flow and Rhymes...
Though i preferred jay z's relaxed flow.. But Eminem wins cos his flow was difficult...

Jay z wins-- in rapping sense...wordplays/pun / presence/ swag/..he was a boss on it/ his pauses were wow....

Winner is Jay Z.... ...I don't even know what eminem rapped in it...that's spectacular ...

Am posting the verses now....
Jay z was rapping common sense...saying stuffs people could relate to....staying on a theme...Eminem was going off and on..from bragging to some alien mumble...

Kendrick Lamar almost killed eminem in his own song...if Lamar had an extra verse..he would have marked em.....

Coogar, ur talking of bars, right?
Lookey here:

Canibus:

I don't do this to anybody except myself
Stuck with motherfuckers like the trophy on my shelf
Bleep the promo, nigga I do this for dolo
Flow from the first album, the 24-0-0
Round the clock launce, I got a cup of coco
When I be a no show with my girl fives don't go
And she give me blow more than 2 times on the row
And I'd rather chill with her than kill you with a rhyme that I wrote
Count how many mics that I smoke minus the gold
Bust dope, my battlin' average higher than most
When I'm on the mic I release fire from throat
If you disagree please do it quietly folks
Anybody better than Bis must be a hoax
Black man NO, what about the great white ho?
What? Man you must be sniffin' the great white coke
Don't you that's like Gary Comb, I'm fightin' a hulk
Still not even quite that close
A great mic fight in ya rubber dingi boat 50 miles out from the coast
What the Bleep is the Matthers with you?
I beat you black and blue, then I give the tablet the true

Please show me anything from that Em's Can-a-b1tch track that beats this

Darkrebel:

First of all ...I don't live in Akoka.....

Second of all...Your not my superior....

Thirdly....everyone is entitled to his or her beliefs...

i am your superior cos you know nothing. yes, your opinion is your right and you are entitled to them, but don't abuse the privilege. don't quote me directly and tell me you are entitled to your opinion. that's just madness!

Please  Post the link "Disaster said he would purposely lose to Eminem"..
Please Post it....
Let's confirm ourselves...

if i post it & it's confirmed, will you apologise for misyarning? if not, forget it.

You claim you know Eminem...yet you don't know what happened in the rap Olympics final...Lemme tell you what happened princess....Juice Whooped Eminem's Sorry ass....Wanna know why?

juice didn't whoop eminem. they had 6 ties. 6 draws before the judges got tired and gave it to juice. eminem was an unknown detroit white boy that flew to LA to battle. juice was a black boy from LA that had more fans in the audience. yet, he had 6 draws and won based on homefield advantage. if the battle was in detroit, eminem woulda won too.

Eminem recycled a punchline....the you couldn't make your fans throw up..if they swallowed their fingers...bla bla.... He was beaten silly ..so stop defending him..saying they cheated or crap...even Eminem knows he was beaten... Beaten like he stole
something....

you disgrace hip-hop heads when you argue like this. rap olympics was 1997, eminem later used that bar in 1999 on SSLP. how could eminem have recycled something he said in 1999 in 1997?

you mean the judges knew eminem would use that bar in 1999 as at 97 and that was why he lost a battle? your fake akoka-swag has been exposed once again. if you don't know about a subject matter, keep quiet and learn from your superiors.

Lastly ..he doesn't have a billion verses in his head....everyone has rhyme books...and we jot whatever comes down to out mind ...its not only Eminem ..there are many punchlines I have too ..that's unused....same goes to every emcee.. So its not a big deal..its a normal thing....

so why is eminem the most respected rapper across the racial lines then? how did eminem - a white boy got a front page feature on the source & XXL magazines? it's because they couldn't mess with his talents. for eminem to be where he is in the rap industry, he has worked twice as hard. rap is a black art & eminem has dominated it from 1999 till date.

He can come up with lines willingly....but he doesn't have a billion verses in his head...he needs to sit down and think and sometimes may take him weeks to even come up with 20 punchlines... It happens...so quit the hyperboles....If Eminem steps into any top rap battle league...he can be still be whooped .....

if eminem steps on stage against any battle rapper, his first sentence alone would body his opponent. he's fierce, he rips, he shreds. the game said so - that when he was firing shots at g-unit & interscope records, he left eminem out of it.....when he was asked if eminem comes after him, what will he do? he said he would run as fast as his legs can take him cos eminem destroys careers.

jay-z's level is the same as eminem at age 15.

so what's special bout Eminem's rap here...just the same old...braggadio verses....

snap out of that Eminem trance...


"Renegade"
(feat. Jay-Z)
[Jay-Z: Verse]
Motherfuckers say that I'm foolish, I only talk about
jewels(bling bling)
Do you fools listen to music or do you just skim
through it?
See, I'm influenced by the ghetto you ruined
That same dude you gave nothing, I made
something doing
What I do, through and through and I gave you the
news with a twist it's just his ghetto point of view
The renegade you been afraid
I penetrate pop culture, bring 'em a lot closer to the
block where they
pop toasters, and they live with their mums
Got dropped roasters, from botched robberies
niggas crotched over
Mummy's knocked up cause she wasn't watched
over
Knocked down by some clown when child support
knocked
No, he's not around now how that sound to ya, jot it
down
I'll bring you through the ghetto without riding round
hiding down ducking strays from frustrated youths
stuck in their ways
Just read a magazine that bleeped up my day
How you rate music that thugs with nothing relate to
it?
I help them see they way through it, not you.
Can't step in my pants, can't walk in my shoes
Bet everything you worth; you lose your tie and
your shirt.
[Eminem: Verse]
Since I'm in a position to talk to these kids and they
listen
I ain't no politician but I'll kick it within a minute
Cause see, they call me a menace and if the shoe
fits I'll wear it
But if it don't, then ya'll swallow the truth grin and
bear it
Now who's the king of these rude ludicrous
lucrative lyrics?
Who could inherit the title, put the youth in
hysterics?
Using his music to steer it sharing his views and his
merits
But there's a huge interference, they're saying,
"You shouldn't hear it."
Maybe it's hatred I spew, maybe it's food for the
spirit
Maybe it's beautiful music I made for you to just
cherish
But I'm debated, disputed, hated and viewed in
America
as a motherfucking drug addict like you didn't
experiment?
Now now, that's when you start to stare at who's in
the mirror
and see yourself as a kid again, and you get
embarrassed
And I got nothing to do but make you look stupid as
parents
You fucking do-gooders - too bad you couldn't DO-
GOOD at marriage!
And do you have any clue what I had to do to get
here I don't
think you do so stay tuned and keep your ears
glued to the stereo
Cause here we go, he's {Jigga durra Jigga da chk
Jigga}
And I'm the sinister, Mr. Kiss-My-Ass it's just the..
[Eminem + Jay-Z - Chorus]
[Eminem]
RENEGADE! Never been afraid to say
what's on my mind at, any given time of day
Cause I'm a RENEGADE! Never been afraid to talk
about anything (ANYTHING) anything (ANYTHING),
RENEGADE!
[Jay-Z]
Never been afraid to say
what's on my mind at, any given time of day
Cause I'm a (RENEGADE) Never been afraid to holler
about anything (ANYTHING) anything (ANYTHING)
[Jay-Z: Verse]
I had to hustle, my back to the wall, ashy knuckles
Pockets filled with a lot of lint, not a cent
Gotta vent, lot of innocent of lives lost on the project
bench
What you hollering? Gotta pay rent, bring dollars in
By the bodega, iron under my coat, feeling braver
Doo-rag wrapping my waves up, pockets full of
hope
Do not step to me I'm awkward, I box leftier often
My pops left me and often my momma wasn't
home
Could not stress to me I wasn't growing, especially
on nights
I brought something home to quiet the stomach
rumblings
My demeanor thirty years my senior
My childhood didn't mean much, only raisin greener
Raising my fingers to critics, raising my head to the
sky
Big I did it multi(i) before I die (nigga)
No lie, just know I chose my own fate
I drove by the fork in the road and went straight.
[Eminem: Verse]
See, I'm a poet to some, a regular modern day
Shakespeare
Jesus Christ the King of these Latter Day Saints
here
To shatter the picture in which of that as they paint
me
as a monger of hate, Satan and scatter-brained
atheist
But that ain't the case, see, it's a matter of taste
We as a people decide if Shady's as bad as they
say he is
Or is he the ladder, a gateway to escape?
Media scapegoat, they can be mad at today
See, it's as easy as cake, simple as whistling Dixie
while I'm waving the pistol at sixty Christians
against me
Go to war with the Mormons, take a bath with the
Catholics
in holy water no wonder they try to hold me under
longer
I'm a motherfucking spiteful, delightful eyeful
The new Ice Cube, motherfuckers hate to like you
What did I do? (huh) I'm just a kid from the gutter
making his butter off these bloodsuckers, cause I'm
a motherfucking
[Eminem + Jay-Z - Chorus]
[Eminem]
RENEGADE! Never been afraid to say
what's on my mind at, any given time of day
Cause I'm a RENEGADE! Never been afraid to talk
about anything (ANYTHING) anything (ANYTHING),
RENEGADE!
[Jay-Z]
Never been afraid to say
what's on my mind at, any given time of day
Cause I'm a (RENEGADE) Never been afraid to holler
about anything (ANYTHING) anything (ANYTHING)
[Repeat x2]

Darkrebel:
Jesus...this coogar dey lie.....!!!!

Jigga referenced renegade ..7 years after...abeg post the Link.....

In my opinion....

Eminem won on-- Flow and Rhymes...
Though i preferred jay z's relaxed flow.. But Eminem wins cos his flow was difficult...

Jay z wins-- in rapping sense...wordplays/pun / presence/ swag/..he was a boss on it/ his pauses were wow....

Winner is Jay Z.... ...I don't even know what eminem rapped in it...that's spectacular ...

Am posting the verses now....
Jay z was rapping common sense...saying stuffs people could relate to....staying on a theme...Eminem was going off and on..from bragging to some alien mumble...

Kendrick Lamar almost killed eminem in his own song...if Lamar had an extra verse..he would have marked em.....

when your superiors are talking, grab a seat and learn. you are new to this culture, stop shooting off your mouth that i lied.

this was jay-z on a star is born - blueprint 3 album in 2009. that's 7 years after renegade(blueprint 1).

Wayne did a milli, 50 did a milli
'Ye too but what Em did was silly
The white boy blossomed after Dre endorsed him.
His flow on "Renegade," fuckin awesome, applaud him

that's jay-z admitting his defeat codedly. eminem destroyed the fake-aśs jay-z. jigga got eminem's audio before recording his own & he still couldn't match eminem. no wonder nas talked about it on ether!

Jigga's verse was far better abeg! Eminem's delivery was better though, but lyrics wise Jay-z killed it

kr0ne:
Coogar, ur talking of bars, right?
Lookey here:

Canibus:

I don't do this to anybody except myself
Stuck with motherfuckers like the trophy on my shelf
Bleep the promo, nigga I do this for dolo
Flow from the first album, the 24-0-0
Round the clock launce, I got a cup of coco
When I be a no show with my girl fives don't go
And she give me blow more than 2 times on the row
And I'd rather chill with her than kill you with a rhyme that I wrote
Count how many mics that I smoke minus the gold
Bust dope, my battlin' average higher than most
When I'm on the mic I release fire from throat
If you disagree please do it quietly folks
Anybody better than Bis must be a hoax
Black man NO, what about the great white ho?
What? Man you must be sniffin' the great white coke
Don't you that's like Gary Comb, I'm fightin' a hulk
Still not even quite that close
A great mic fight in ya rubber dingi boat 50 miles out from the coast
What the Bleep is the Matthers with you?
I beat you black and blue, then I give the tablet the true

Please show me anything from that Em's Can-a-b1tch track that beats this

so great white hopë & what's the mathers with you? is the factor that gives canibus the edge? is this track even a direct diss to eminem? that's just few lines off a track, my friend!

eminem wasted 3 full verses on canibus on can-i-bïtch with mad arsë personals and punchlines and you are talking great white hope.

kr0ne:
Jigga's verse was far better abeg! Eminem's delivery was better though, but lyrics wise Jay-z killed it

jay-z's verse was subdued!
he has accepted his loss & you are saying jigga's verse was better. jigga went a whole track trying to play catch up & there was no concept in anything he's saying. i would analyse eminem's verse on this track very soon.....

and you will see what the nakëd eye doesn't see.

coogar:


when your superiors are talking, grab a seat and learn. you are new to this culture, stop shooting off your mouth that i lied.

this was jay-z on a star is born - blueprint 3 album in 2009. that's 7 years after renegade(blueprint 1).

Wayne did a milli, 50 did a milli
'Ye too but what Em did was silly
The white boy blossomed after Dre endorsed him.
His flow on "Renegade," fuckin awesome, applaud him

that's jay-z admitting his defeat codedly. eminem destroyed the fake-ass jay-z. jigga got eminem's audio before recording his own & he still couldn't match eminem. no wonder nas talked about it on ether!

Coogar, that thing na hype joor! Jigga wasn't admitting nothing. He once put in some good words for Talib Kweli too: if skills sold, truth be told, I'd prolly be lyrically Talib Kweli

kr0ne:

Coogar, that thing na hype joor! Jigga wasn't admitting nothing. He once put in some good words for Talib Kweli too: if skills sold, truth be told, I'd prolly be lyrically Talib Kweli

hype?
you know why i am happy we are having this argument? it's because you are a writer too and you know what it takes to put words together. now let's see eminem's verse on renegade.

Since I'm in a position to talk to these kids and they listen
I ain't no politician but I'll kick it with 'em a minute
Cause see they call me a menace; and if the shoe fits I'll wear it
But if it don't, then y'all'll swallow the truth grin and bear it
Now who's these king of these rude lu dicrous lucrative lyrics
Who could inherit the title, put the youth in hysterics
usin his music to steer it sharin his views in his marriage
But there's a huge interference - they're sayin you shouldn't hear it

Maybe it's hatred I spew, maybe it's food for the spirit
Maybe it's beautiful music I made for you to just cherish

krone, remind me which year this song was recorded? 2002 & eminem was killing multis like this when jigga was still doing monosyllables?

eminem is a beast! 2002 and it's more advanced than what many still pen in 2014. 4-way polysyllabic scheme that just went on and on - and you rate jigga's guguru verse?

coogar:


hype?
you know why i am happy we are having this argument? it's because you are a writer too and you know what it takes to put words together. now let's see eminem's verse on renegade.



krone, remind me which year this song was recorded? 2002 & eminem was killing multis like this when jigga was still doing monosyllables?

So na the multies dey sweet you?
I'm talking lyricism, bro, based on track title Renegade. Jigga spat those words hood niggas like to listen to. And if multies is the problem I'd say listen to Common. Eminem is nowhere close to this dude in lyricism and rhymes

kr0ne:

So na the multies dey sweet you?
I'm talking lyricism, bro, based on track title Renegade. Jigga spat those words hood niggas like to listen to. And if multies is the problem I'd say listen to Common. Eminem is nowhere close to this dude in lyricism and rhymes

eminem is the king of multis!
he's the best writer in the universe. when i listened to lose yourself also in 2002.....i just knew i must learn to write this way.

in the first verse of lose yourself - every word eminem spat rhymed with another word on the verse. you think this is coincidence? to utter words that has rhyming partners on a verse and still make sense with it?

kr0ne, eminem has no equal!!!

Coogar, I know once ur bent on a debate u never try to compromise or see reason with ur opponents. Now check out these intelligent multies from Common on Get Em High track:

[Verse 4: Common]
Get 'em high like noon, or the moon or room filled with smoke
A high filled with d0pe
You all assumed I was doomed, out of tune, but I still feel the notes
The real nigga quotes
Real rappers is hard to find like a remote control

You dey see rhymes abi? I'm not even talking about lyricism here, another area Em would doff his hat for him

coogar:


when your superiors are talking, grab a seat and learn. you are new to this culture, stop shooting off your mouth that i lied.

this was jay-z on a star is born - blueprint 3 album in 2009. that's 7 years after renegade(blueprint 1).

Wayne did a milli, 50 did a milli
'Ye too but what Em did was silly
The white boy blossomed after Dre endorsed him.
His flow on "Renegade," fuckin awesome, applaud him

that's jay-z admitting his defeat codedly. eminem destroyed the fake-aśs jay-z. jigga got eminem's audio before recording his own & he still couldn't match eminem. no wonder nas talked about it on ether!

you were trying to be cunny...the way you said it
..we all thought he said it In an interview or something....
learn to be straight....
so because he said that in a song means he accepted defeat.... you said it like he said it in an interview or something..... he said his flow was awesome..so? they ain't beefing...so he praised him.....

dude ...jay z beat Eminem on renegade to me..and many people think so too.....

prove that jay z did his recording after Eminem's own..
prove it....and if you manage to prove it..which I know you can't...then jay z has probably recorded his and didn't wanna change his lyrics...that's maturity....

same with big Sean

.when he saw Lamar's control verse...he said he could have changed his verse and diss Lamar..but that would have been childish.......case closed...

kr0ne:
Coogar, I know once ur bent on a debate u never try to compromise or see reason with ur opponents. Now check out these intelligent multies from Common on Get Em High track:

[Verse 4: Common]
Get 'em high like noon, or the moon or room filled with smoke
A high filled with d0pe
You all assumed I was doomed, out of tune, but I still feel the notes
The real nigga quotes
Real rappers is hard to find like a remote control

how old is this track?

this is how someone on this forum broke down eminem's verse on renegade on a thread i created asking if eminem is indeed the rap god

they call me a menace; and if the shoe fits I'll wear it
But if it don't, then y'all'll swallow the truth grin and bear it
Now who's these king of these rude ludicrous lucrative lyrics
Who could inherit the title, put the youth in hysterics
using his music steer it . . sharin his views in *his marriage
But there's a huge interference - they're sayin you shouldn't hear it
Maybe it's hatred I spew, maybe it's food for the spirit
Maybe it's beautiful music I made for you to just cherish
But I'm debated disputed hated and viewed in Americ a

as a motherfuckin drug addict - like you didn't experiment?
Now now, that's when you start to stare at who's in the mirror

and see yourself as a kid again, and you get *embarrased
And I got nothin to do but make you look stupid as parents
You fuckin do-gooders - too bad you couldn't do good at marriage!
(Ha ha!) And do you have any clue what I had to do to get here I don't
think you do so stay tuned and keep your ears glued to the ster eo


* modified pronunciation for ryhme. You have to listen to get it.

Let someone show me any rapper from yore who had such technicality in one verse. Don't just say he's not a rap god, tell us why he is not.

look at how many rhyming partners on that single verse? this is why his verses are sweeter to hear & induces eargäsms.